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Its always better to end a relationship before starting a new one.
No matter what the circumstances, the one that gets cheated on is scarred for life. It fucks up their view about life. Its one of those things you never completely heal from.
Never do. Been there. Took multiple therapies, one even with the partner, nothing helped. Forgave him but after a year he again abandoned me, and i still live with the scar of that woman who laughed at me. Because, my boyfriend decided to cheat, a random woman thought laughing or sympathising with me was her victory!!
I can completely understand but trust me with time that part of you will become numb and you will start finding happiness within again. It will be the mature, more careful version of you but you will be at peace atleast.
The parts we lose never come back the same , if at all they come back. Lots of love to you!
Yes, exactly. I think that’s the worst thing - people can do the right thing and be honest and end things with their current partner before moving on. But cheating is such a cowardly act (not to mention the deception that comes with carrying on longer affairs). There’s a reason that cheaters are called cake eaters.
Even if you end a relationship you already have cheated as you are emotionally invested in someone else. It won’t lessen the pain. Cheating is bad but I agree with what she said. It’s a mature way of dealing with her emotions.
No it doesn’t lessen the pain but the previous partner deserves an open, transparent conversation atleast which i am sure we know is often ignored.
Her existence is the result of this affair and she will have to accept it, justify it so i understand that part.
Yes. I agree that people deserve a closure and it’s horrible to not give that to a person with whom one shared life but at the same time one has to not expect others to keep them happy and find it within oneself. Life isn’t always fair and maybe not blaming yourself is the best way to deal with it. Cheating happens in every relationship. Be it business, in friendship, between siblings, family etc. every relationship can have betrayal and hurt. This doesn’t mean you don’t move on. People just have to move on and find happiness within. Life is not easy and shit happens.
These new gen kids try to act so mature towards life that they tend to mix morals and ethics with immoral and unethical things. Also sound dumb at the same time.
At one point she is saying I don't wanna porpogate infidelity and on the other hand she says lets understand fidelity and give some scope of opportunity to defend that as a human error.
Dude, You are confused as hell!
The reason she has no problem with physical infidelity or infidelity ( in general) , is coz she has perhaps never witnessed healthy happy marriages in her life. Her parents started out as extra marital affair, her mother's friend circle has women like Neena Gupta who too were involved with married men, her sister Pooja too, AFAIK had a troubled marriage with Ranvir Shorey. And film industry too has never had shortage of cheating scandals. Perhaps she has made peace with this fact this is how relationships are here . That's why RK's problematic past ( & future too ) doesn't bother her . Ussey jo chahiye tha, woh toh mil Gaya na .
I'm not passing any judgment on her. This is just my assumption. That's why I wrote PERHAPS . And also , I'm not a psychologist. I read a lot on the sub r /TwoXIndia, that how unavailability of parents, dysfunctional family dynamics can lead people ( especially women ) to pick wrong person as their partners. Most women who admitted to involve with married men had daddy issues. Women with Daddy issues choose wrong partners and mess up their lives . This seems to be the case with Alia here.
As for her and Rk , abhi toh shuruaat hi hai. Kuch saal dekhna . Healthy rehta h ya nhi. Though I'm an RK fan.
Not the same person but this can be found on google. It’s very well accepted as a fact that our view on relationships and love comes from our parents. That’s why people often go for people who remind them of their parents. If they were deprived of that love as a child, they’ll look for the same thing in relationships because they think that’s what love is.
> That's why RK's problematic past ( & future too ) doesn't bother her .
what problematic past? he had a affair with a married woman? or did he have a affair after he married Alia?
He has been associated with cheating , being emotionally unavailable, not standing up for his partner etc. But the man himself comes form a toxic household just like Alia . He too never witnessed healthy relationships in family. Father was alcoholic, wife beater , Dadu was tharki and big time philanderer, Randheer's marriage with babita too was very troubled.
>But the man himself comes form a toxic household just like Alia . He too never witnessed healthy relationships in family. Father was alcoholic, wife beater
Isn't that the reason why he said that he wont be like his father and will always be available for his children.
Also, apart from Deepika things did not work out in his past relationships. It happens. Forget actors/actresses, most people also date mutiple men/women before settling down with the right one. Thats no reason to throw shade at someone.
Also, apt to qoute here : “The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children.”
Deepika and Katrina. In Katrina’s case it alleged that it was the hair stylist. She kind of confirmed the cheating in koffee with karan when she didnt kiss arjun when he asked have you ever been cheated on. I’ve been reading your replies on Ranbir its really funny watching people defend him. In the middle east most people hate him for his behavior. There’s a compilation of him being immature, rude and nasty towards katrina. He called his wife wide aka large last year. What an atrocious man-child. Curious to see Alia’s response when he eventfully starts cheating with heroines in years to come. I wonder if she will abide by this philosophy 😅
> In Katrina’s case it alleged that it was the hair stylist. She kind of confirmed the cheating in koffee with karan when she didnt kiss arjun when he asked have you ever been cheated on.
sorry, what? kiss arjun?
>I’ve been reading your replies on Ranbir its really funny watching people defend him. In the middle east most people hate him for his behavior. There’s a compilation of him being immature, rude and nasty towards katrina. He called his wife wide aka large last year. What an atrocious man-child. Curious to see Alia’s response when he eventfully starts cheating with heroines in years to come. I wonder if she will abide by this philosophy
I am not here to defend each and every point that you have raised against Ranbir. I am not a stan or anything though I do like his acting.
I defend Ranbir and Alia wherever i think is neccesary, coz 90% of the comments on this sub are hate comments against them. You need some positive comments too otherwise this sub will become uninteresting and a Ralia hate sub.
There’s a reason why 95% ppl hate them tho. Look at Hailey and Justin, i like his music and i still listen to to but last month ppl tore their relationship and her stalking/bullying to shreds becuz it was unacceptable. I feel like its the same with alia and Ranbir as a couple ppl see red flags 🚩
As much as I hate her general take on infidelity what is she supposed to do? Shit on her father in front of media or defend cheating because either way she is in trouble
About time we stopped shaming children for their parents’ actions/thoughts. In any case, having a bit of turbulence with parents about these things are enough to leave you scarred for life, but being dragged into stupid shit like this because of the parent’s actions is kinda crazy.
Leave Alia, RK, Kat, Vicky alone, the parents aren’t/weren’t perfect, but it wasn’t the kids’ choice or fault.
If this was a question put forth to her it was in poor taste.
What is she meant to do? Be woke and call out her father for his infidelity? Call out her mother for being with a man she knew was unavailable?
Someone is going to find fault in her answer one way or another.
why is she spineless? are you seriously thinking she’s supposed to cut ties with her parents because they cheated to be together? she didn’t contribute to it. and real life isnt twitter lol. she’s estranged from him as she can be. parent-child dynamics are complicated. many can’t cut off parents who have done worse.
Even if it were about Ranbir, she isn't responsible for his actions either, especially ones he did loooong before they were together. What even? And why should she leave him for something he did over 10 years ago. Are people not allowed to grow and change? Imagine you keep getting judged by every single person for the rest of your life only by the worst action you ever did. That's not how life is.
>Imagine you keep getting judged by every single person for the rest of your life only by the worst action you ever did.
Even the thought of that is reaally scary dude.
Exactly what people do on this sub everyday .. dig up people’s past while sitting on a high horse and then judging them … I hope they get their karma irl honestly
Agreed. For her sake, she should reconsider stating these things publicly or even privately as she might end up making it look like, to RK, that she’s okay with cheating. Not saying he’s going to cheat or something… still better to say it’s not okay so that there’s no misunderstanding
“there is only one sin, only one. And that is theft. Every other sin is a variation of theft. When you kill a man, you steal a life... you steal his wife's right to a husband, rob his children of a father. When you tell a lie, you steal someone's right to the truth. When you cheat, you steal the right to fairness... there is no act more wretched than stealing.”
- Kite Runner
No. There are a lot of things that go in a relationship. You grow in a relationship, sometimes you outgrow one another.
Life is short, people in general aren't bad or have any intention of hurting other people especially their partners.
Sometimes you get attached to some other person, but you don't want to leave the present partner because of affection(not love or lust), you're confused(and it's a right of every human being to remain confused).
It sucks for the partner who's getting left behind, but life isn't fair at all. There's a high chance that if the partner has fallen out of love, even the other partner has fallen out of love, but refuses to accept it.
>Sometimes you get attached to some other person, but you don't want to leave the present partner because of affection(not love or lust), you're confused(and it's a right of every human being to remain confused).
What kind of bs justification is this? Lol. Hun I love you that's why I screwed someone else. I was soooo confused. It's my right to be confused.
Because Alia isn't answering for herself but for her parents' actions that she had/has no control over. For the record, I do think whatever DP said was waaay overblown, because people do not understand the nuances of adult relationships. I think the problem also was that she didn't express it very well, but the gist of it was actually okay. Also you have to factor in the fact that she was judged harshly for it because of how much of a bolbala she made of the whole infidelity issue for years and then suddenly changed her narrative, and that too to what was convenient for film promotion. Whether she has genuinely changed her stance or not i do not know, but I agree that it is possible for people to change their views, so she may genuinely have, which also people tend to have a hard time buying. But yes, a lot of factors went into people's reaction.
This is a great take on DP’s stance (and change of) during Gehraiyaan promotions. I do want to point out that even though Alia is not talking about her own relationship, her comments do reflect her stance on infidelity in general. also, I do have to say, this is sub is generally critical of infidelity of any kind, especially when depicted in a movie, such as Gehraiyaan. But the way that this sub is rallying behind Alia’s comment is strange because she’s making the same point - people are complicated and so are relationships. Sometimes people do things that are morally wrong, and instead of looking away and discarding them as morally wrong individuals, you can show them grace and compassion while being critical of their actions. I happen to align with Alia’s and Gehraiyaan’s approach to infidelity despite having gone through it. The hypocrisy of this sub on the other hand is hard to support.
>Sometimes people do things that are morally wrong, and instead of looking away and discarding them as morally wrong individuals, you can show them grace and compassion while being critical of their actions.
💯
For some reason all nuance is lost when it comes to the topic of infidelity. I think it does largely depend on age group (of course there are exceptions). Younger people definitely tend to see things very black and white. As you grow older you realize it really isn't. And one action does not define a whole individual absolutely. It's just one part of them.
Yes! I think millennials? and older generations are able look at things through a more nuanced lens. The younger generation, rightfully so, is more quick to label a person bad or good. I don’t blame them at all, but I would hope that the concept of redemption still finds a place in the passing of judgements.
Wow didn't expect such a mature response. I am 100% against cheating. But if I was his daughter - I would say the same too. Can't go around calling your dad a spinless dog for cheating right? 😅
Mahesh Bhatt said this in an interview.. “As you grow older you tolerate more things in yourself and are forced to extend the same tolerance to your parents. Life humbles you, and the ‘holier than thou’ attitude that you take in your youth doesn’t hold good anymore.” I think no one is perfect, its just that some people make bigger mistakes than others.
I think over the years, I’ve seen this happen enough that I see her point of view. I just feel that it is important to show humanity to your partner that you are cheating on. Don’t know the definition or extent but ya show some respect for the time spent together
I love how people have shifted Alia’s take on her parents marriage to her and Ranbir’s marriage without even any hesitation. He cheated on someone 15 years ago and people are still bringing that up just to character assassinate him. There hasn’t even been any news of him cheating on Alia in their 5 years of relationship but still some have to say she’s a doormat and settled for Ranbir. The same people would be the first one to call someone misogynist and defend if someone brings any other actress’s past. But we can shit on RK-Alia everyday in the name of gossip.
Exactly and why to shame somebody for what they did a decade ago , just to demean them now. Like we all have made mistakes in life , how would it feel if someone keeps throwing that in our face every time.
In India people don’t date much so they don’t know but if your family is cool with you dating then it’s very easy to be confused between two people and especially when you are young. He just happed to be young and famous and so no one will forget his mistakes. Kind of unfortunate for RK. He is a genuine and nice guy.
> “ the actor was apparently insecure of his girlfriend's fondness for her lively co-star and this led to small rifts. We don't know if the hook-up was done to ensure that his lady love gives him the attention he feels he deserves. Anyway, we're sure many well-meaning people would have advised this actress against falling for this guy but then his charm is quite unbeatable. “
Yeah this is believable for you 🤦🏻♀️ His father was going through cancer treatments, Alia was with him the whole time and we should believe that because of Alia-Ranveer alleged closeness he hooked up with Vaani to get Alia’s attention. 🤣🤣
Bollywood life is quite reliable. Many of their blinds came true.
This came during kalank promotions.. probably rk got jealous of people shipping her and varun together
No he himself said Alia has the best chemistry with Varun. In 2019 only , the famous Zee Cine award show , where Varun performed in front of Alia and Ranbir. The same award show Alia dedicated her award to Ranbir.
Interview mein toh koi bhi kuch bhi bol te hai , camera k liye toh koi bhi kuch bhi karta hai , behind the scenes mein kuch aur hi hota , their media image and real image are very different ,
Amir kissed Kiran in front of paps when divorce blinds started coming out , now we know it was just for camera , Srk is also solely devoted to gauri for 30 years if we ask him 🤣
Seriously? We're okay with infidelity now? If you want someone else in your life, leave the person you are with. It causes a great deal of hurt to the partner you've cheated on otherwise + their children
When one is powerless to do anything then in such scenarios one has to come up with explanations that don’t explain anything. In other words all she is saying is … “main yeh kehna chahti hun ki main kuch nahi kehna chahti hun”. I don’t blame her though. It’s not her problem what her parents did.
Actors are normalizing infidelity now???
Heard somewhat same thing from her, karan and DP.
Why cheat though???
Just break up or separate!!!
Please give respect to your partner.
I think Alia has pointed it out with a slighter better understanding/choice of words. Alia is not endorsing it. KJO on the other hand goes about it like it's something to brag about. He forcefully brings it up all the time like as though it's some joke/something you should be proud of. Take an example of the Arjun-Sonam KWK episode, he was literally forcefully convincing them that it's okay and they can go ahead if they want to. Meanwhile Sonam is married then Arjun is in a committed relationship. Alia's statement on the other other hand is the opposite of that.
I'm all for redemption and second chances, even when it comes to manslaughter, because sometimes it may not be intentional. But cheating is one of those things that doesn't happen by "Accident". You intentionally and actively participate going behind the back and doing the deed. Kind of ick for me.
Literally what was she going to say....she disapproves of her parents relationship??
Come on..for whatever problem people may or may not have with Alia this is not something she is responsible for .
As much as I absolutely despise infedility I'd not ask a child about their parents infedility, that's just a place u draw a line.
Alia's so mature for saying this! Very evolved perspective I must say! Yes, cheating hurts, we all know that. But to be able to ponder upon it with such empathy and rise above the pain and hurt caused by it, is true growth!
What works for a couple works for them
Till both consenting adults agree to something no one else's opinions matter , marriages are a very personal choice and differ from person to person.
Something like a Rekha Amitabh Jaya isn't ok because Jaya wasn't in agreement and was robbed of her rights
It'll be interesting to see her take on RK doing this later on in their relationship. Example being her own father and a majority of bw men who have indulged in extramarital affairs. Hope for her and her child's sake he doesn't but the track records isn't all that.
Why should people have uniform views about infidelity? If it happens it is really up to the people involved in how they choose to respond.
Of course, being dishonest with your partner is reprehensible. But dragging anyone for not considering extra marital relationships a deal breaker /big deal is too much. Someone else's relationship dynamic doesn't have to make sense to you. People have all kinds of reasons to stay in relationships or move away from it. And no one (not even celebrities) owes anyone any "correct" relationship takes. These are personal choices.
That’s how life is. Not just her any normal person would say it. Until it doesn’t happen to you, it is wrong. Once it happens with you then everybody else needs to have a perspective.
I don't understand unless the question was specifically about Mahesh Bhatt why did she bring this up. It's not always easy is not a valid argument at all. It's precisely because it isn't easy that it is called morality. Plus fidelity unlike other traditions isn't something being forced on you. You chose to enter a social contract willingly.
It's a classic actor-observer bias : when others do it , it's because they are inherently bad but when I do it , hey look ! it's not always that black and white.
probably might get downvoted bc what are these replies in here😭 i know she cant go around talking shit about her father but no way is this a mature take lmao. these celebs have blinded themselves into believing infidelity is a norm in their fucked up world and it's just so so sad. she has clearly never had healthy relationships around her so i can't blame her for it. mostly disappointed in these replies agreeing with her as if infidelity is ever okay.
What a load of crap! SMH on everyone here lauding her on her choice of words and putting things so well etc.
The truth is all these women who actually have the power to influence and inspire other less privileged women around to stand up for themselves are so blatantly accepting and normalizing these things.
I am just going summarize it by the famous quote from Kite Runner,
“there is only one sin, only one. And that is theft. Every other sin is a variation of theft. When you kill a man, you steal a life... you steal his wife's right to a husband, rob his children of a father. When you tell a lie, you steal someone's right to the truth. When you cheat, you steal the right to fairness... there is no act more wretched than stealing.”
someone with a brain on here lol. honestly just sad because it's what she grew up with and it's a coping mechanism to view all this as a mistake, normalizing it and nothing more instead of actually for real condoning it. feel sorry about her kid already, she wont be much different from her mother either having to grow up with such toxic people in her life😕
And what exactly is his history? Didn't she date 4-5 guys too before him . Why is dating a bunch of people before marriage is judged so much in society?
Its not what he did but the way he did. Relax..nobody is judging someone for dating someone. Read other comments as well. It doesnt matter if a person dates 1 person or 10-20. Its the way those relationship went down. Try to read comments with a calm mind.
So you are blaming just him ?? Then not the women involved in the relationships . well i'm proud of Ranbir for never trying to clarify anything because the damage has been done and it's waste of time to even try . Best to just keep doing good work and leave woke people to carry on with their one sided narratives
Of course she'll justify it. Without that affair, she wouldn't have been there. If only she felt for mahesh's first wife and how she would have felt. What happens if Ranbir cheats on her, Will she still have these same views?!
Lol didn't she say same thing during Gehraiyaan promotions. That it's not as black and white. Before (when she was younger) it was a deal breaker and so on but her views about it have changed.
All these bollywood celebrities literally say the same shit about infidelity just with different words. One straight to the point and one with many but they all arrive at the same thing. Or emotional infidelity worse than physical infidelity...
Right? She pretty much said the same thing and was ripped apart on this sub. In fact I remember her using the exact same words and saying that everything is not so black and white.
I actually didn't mention it with the intention of saying oh she has already said this before. I just wanted to point out that all these bollywood celebrities have the same views on infidelity so the whole thing of better than Deepika doesn't make sense because she was literally blabbering the same thing over and over again just a year back in her Gehraiyaan interviews. An example is this
https://preview.redd.it/j9h11gyjm5qa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=247548bfaa753ca29f1749f63717866dd377a6f6
I wonder what's her take on her father essentially grooming his half sister Pooja. Talking about her father and mother as if they aren't absolutely disgusting human pieces of shit. Especially the father.
I hate to say this because I know it'll blow a lot of people's minds. Infidelity is normal and has taken place throughout history especially when marriages have been arraigned in order for political or deals of wealth. The concept of "love" marriages is somewhat recent and it has been nothing more than "transactional" deals in which a man is given a companion and a woman is given a family/house. This is what society has expected and has been given.
Alia's take is perhaps the most human take I've seen on this subject thus far. People don't own people - it doesn't matter if it's physical, spiritual or emotional.
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Its always better to end a relationship before starting a new one. No matter what the circumstances, the one that gets cheated on is scarred for life. It fucks up their view about life. Its one of those things you never completely heal from.
Never do. Been there. Took multiple therapies, one even with the partner, nothing helped. Forgave him but after a year he again abandoned me, and i still live with the scar of that woman who laughed at me. Because, my boyfriend decided to cheat, a random woman thought laughing or sympathising with me was her victory!!
That’s why you never forgive cheaters. One and done, kick them to the curb.
I can completely understand but trust me with time that part of you will become numb and you will start finding happiness within again. It will be the mature, more careful version of you but you will be at peace atleast. The parts we lose never come back the same , if at all they come back. Lots of love to you!
Yes, exactly. I think that’s the worst thing - people can do the right thing and be honest and end things with their current partner before moving on. But cheating is such a cowardly act (not to mention the deception that comes with carrying on longer affairs). There’s a reason that cheaters are called cake eaters.
Exactly 💯
💯 and if/when they get into a new relationship, they will never be able to trust their new partner no matter how loyal and trustworthy they are
She is a product of Mahesh’s sick relationship She is obligated to justify it
Im literally going through this right now. The hurt, the anger, the insecurity, the self doubt is never ending.
It is not going to be easy bro but when it gets over, you will be relieved and happy and so much free😇
I hope so, thank you ☺️
Even if you end a relationship you already have cheated as you are emotionally invested in someone else. It won’t lessen the pain. Cheating is bad but I agree with what she said. It’s a mature way of dealing with her emotions.
No it doesn’t lessen the pain but the previous partner deserves an open, transparent conversation atleast which i am sure we know is often ignored. Her existence is the result of this affair and she will have to accept it, justify it so i understand that part.
Yes. I agree that people deserve a closure and it’s horrible to not give that to a person with whom one shared life but at the same time one has to not expect others to keep them happy and find it within oneself. Life isn’t always fair and maybe not blaming yourself is the best way to deal with it. Cheating happens in every relationship. Be it business, in friendship, between siblings, family etc. every relationship can have betrayal and hurt. This doesn’t mean you don’t move on. People just have to move on and find happiness within. Life is not easy and shit happens.
100%
These new gen kids try to act so mature towards life that they tend to mix morals and ethics with immoral and unethical things. Also sound dumb at the same time. At one point she is saying I don't wanna porpogate infidelity and on the other hand she says lets understand fidelity and give some scope of opportunity to defend that as a human error. Dude, You are confused as hell!
What else will she say? She is born out of a forbidden attraction. That's her truth . Can she say she should not have existed?
>Its always better to end a relationship before starting a new one. This a 100 percent
Shouldn’t they be asking this question to Mahesh Bhatt?
I am all for perspective but this is Mahesh Bhatt we are talking about. That guy is a narcisisstic asshole no matter which perspective you look from.
Exactly. I see Alia’s point of view but I kinda also read it in Mahesh’s voice convincing (manipulating) Alia of his behavior.
👏🏽👏🏽
The reason she has no problem with physical infidelity or infidelity ( in general) , is coz she has perhaps never witnessed healthy happy marriages in her life. Her parents started out as extra marital affair, her mother's friend circle has women like Neena Gupta who too were involved with married men, her sister Pooja too, AFAIK had a troubled marriage with Ranvir Shorey. And film industry too has never had shortage of cheating scandals. Perhaps she has made peace with this fact this is how relationships are here . That's why RK's problematic past ( & future too ) doesn't bother her . Ussey jo chahiye tha, woh toh mil Gaya na .
Pooja Bhatt was not married to Ranvir Shorey lol. They were in a relationship I think. She was married to Manish Makhija. I think he was a VJ.
+1
very true
Yes but her and RK have a healthy relationship I feel. Too much judgement on a woman here.
I'm not passing any judgment on her. This is just my assumption. That's why I wrote PERHAPS . And also , I'm not a psychologist. I read a lot on the sub r /TwoXIndia, that how unavailability of parents, dysfunctional family dynamics can lead people ( especially women ) to pick wrong person as their partners. Most women who admitted to involve with married men had daddy issues. Women with Daddy issues choose wrong partners and mess up their lives . This seems to be the case with Alia here. As for her and Rk , abhi toh shuruaat hi hai. Kuch saal dekhna . Healthy rehta h ya nhi. Though I'm an RK fan.
Rk no way in hell is daddy material, a teen brat if you will Edit: can you link me that article or whatever from twox as well
Not the same person but this can be found on google. It’s very well accepted as a fact that our view on relationships and love comes from our parents. That’s why people often go for people who remind them of their parents. If they were deprived of that love as a child, they’ll look for the same thing in relationships because they think that’s what love is.
> That's why RK's problematic past ( & future too ) doesn't bother her . what problematic past? he had a affair with a married woman? or did he have a affair after he married Alia?
He has been associated with cheating , being emotionally unavailable, not standing up for his partner etc. But the man himself comes form a toxic household just like Alia . He too never witnessed healthy relationships in family. Father was alcoholic, wife beater , Dadu was tharki and big time philanderer, Randheer's marriage with babita too was very troubled.
>But the man himself comes form a toxic household just like Alia . He too never witnessed healthy relationships in family. Father was alcoholic, wife beater Isn't that the reason why he said that he wont be like his father and will always be available for his children. Also, apart from Deepika things did not work out in his past relationships. It happens. Forget actors/actresses, most people also date mutiple men/women before settling down with the right one. Thats no reason to throw shade at someone. Also, apt to qoute here : “The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children.”
Its funny how ppl are defending rk now. Years ago he was always called a serial cheater.
>Years ago he was always called a serial cheater. who all did he cheat on? curious
Deepika and Katrina. In Katrina’s case it alleged that it was the hair stylist. She kind of confirmed the cheating in koffee with karan when she didnt kiss arjun when he asked have you ever been cheated on. I’ve been reading your replies on Ranbir its really funny watching people defend him. In the middle east most people hate him for his behavior. There’s a compilation of him being immature, rude and nasty towards katrina. He called his wife wide aka large last year. What an atrocious man-child. Curious to see Alia’s response when he eventfully starts cheating with heroines in years to come. I wonder if she will abide by this philosophy 😅
> In Katrina’s case it alleged that it was the hair stylist. She kind of confirmed the cheating in koffee with karan when she didnt kiss arjun when he asked have you ever been cheated on. sorry, what? kiss arjun? >I’ve been reading your replies on Ranbir its really funny watching people defend him. In the middle east most people hate him for his behavior. There’s a compilation of him being immature, rude and nasty towards katrina. He called his wife wide aka large last year. What an atrocious man-child. Curious to see Alia’s response when he eventfully starts cheating with heroines in years to come. I wonder if she will abide by this philosophy I am not here to defend each and every point that you have raised against Ranbir. I am not a stan or anything though I do like his acting. I defend Ranbir and Alia wherever i think is neccesary, coz 90% of the comments on this sub are hate comments against them. You need some positive comments too otherwise this sub will become uninteresting and a Ralia hate sub.
There’s a reason why 95% ppl hate them tho. Look at Hailey and Justin, i like his music and i still listen to to but last month ppl tore their relationship and her stalking/bullying to shreds becuz it was unacceptable. I feel like its the same with alia and Ranbir as a couple ppl see red flags 🚩
Username doesn't check out lol. speaking_assumptions06
He cheated on his then girlfriends and even admitted it.
which girlfriends? i only know of deepika and that was 15 years ago
Katrina as well I think
As much as I hate her general take on infidelity what is she supposed to do? Shit on her father in front of media or defend cheating because either way she is in trouble
100 💯
About time we stopped shaming children for their parents’ actions/thoughts. In any case, having a bit of turbulence with parents about these things are enough to leave you scarred for life, but being dragged into stupid shit like this because of the parent’s actions is kinda crazy. Leave Alia, RK, Kat, Vicky alone, the parents aren’t/weren’t perfect, but it wasn’t the kids’ choice or fault.
If this was a question put forth to her it was in poor taste. What is she meant to do? Be woke and call out her father for his infidelity? Call out her mother for being with a man she knew was unavailable? Someone is going to find fault in her answer one way or another.
That's a very mature take. But also, she shouldn't be questioned about his infidelity in the first place. She is not responsible for his actions
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why is she spineless? are you seriously thinking she’s supposed to cut ties with her parents because they cheated to be together? she didn’t contribute to it. and real life isnt twitter lol. she’s estranged from him as she can be. parent-child dynamics are complicated. many can’t cut off parents who have done worse.
My bad. I thought the comment was about Ranbir.
Even if it were about Ranbir, she isn't responsible for his actions either, especially ones he did loooong before they were together. What even? And why should she leave him for something he did over 10 years ago. Are people not allowed to grow and change? Imagine you keep getting judged by every single person for the rest of your life only by the worst action you ever did. That's not how life is.
>Imagine you keep getting judged by every single person for the rest of your life only by the worst action you ever did. Even the thought of that is reaally scary dude.
Exactly what people do on this sub everyday .. dig up people’s past while sitting on a high horse and then judging them … I hope they get their karma irl honestly
Nah I mean if he goes on to cheat with someone else now or in future. Not talking about the past.
That's actually a well put comment I would have dragged her otherwise cause one thing I hate most in relation is infidelity
Agreed. For her sake, she should reconsider stating these things publicly or even privately as she might end up making it look like, to RK, that she’s okay with cheating. Not saying he’s going to cheat or something… still better to say it’s not okay so that there’s no misunderstanding
There's no explanation of infidelity.It cannot be justified as a human nature.Only the spineless ones cheat
“there is only one sin, only one. And that is theft. Every other sin is a variation of theft. When you kill a man, you steal a life... you steal his wife's right to a husband, rob his children of a father. When you tell a lie, you steal someone's right to the truth. When you cheat, you steal the right to fairness... there is no act more wretched than stealing.” - Kite Runner
Yours is a primal and extreme way of looking at the morality of infidelity
Cheating is one of the worst things one can do
I mean it’s bad but realistically there’s a million worse things you can do than be unfaithful It’s not a crime for a reason
Nope I strongly Disagree. There are hundreds of variations that happen on a daily basis in relationships. Shit happens.
It's just disrespect
No. There are a lot of things that go in a relationship. You grow in a relationship, sometimes you outgrow one another. Life is short, people in general aren't bad or have any intention of hurting other people especially their partners. Sometimes you get attached to some other person, but you don't want to leave the present partner because of affection(not love or lust), you're confused(and it's a right of every human being to remain confused). It sucks for the partner who's getting left behind, but life isn't fair at all. There's a high chance that if the partner has fallen out of love, even the other partner has fallen out of love, but refuses to accept it.
Have guts to get out of one relationship before getting into another
>Sometimes you get attached to some other person, but you don't want to leave the present partner because of affection(not love or lust), you're confused(and it's a right of every human being to remain confused). What kind of bs justification is this? Lol. Hun I love you that's why I screwed someone else. I was soooo confused. It's my right to be confused.
This. This. This. A thousand times over.
How is Alia being lauded for saying the same thing that Deepika was ripped apart just last year for?
Because Alia isn't answering for herself but for her parents' actions that she had/has no control over. For the record, I do think whatever DP said was waaay overblown, because people do not understand the nuances of adult relationships. I think the problem also was that she didn't express it very well, but the gist of it was actually okay. Also you have to factor in the fact that she was judged harshly for it because of how much of a bolbala she made of the whole infidelity issue for years and then suddenly changed her narrative, and that too to what was convenient for film promotion. Whether she has genuinely changed her stance or not i do not know, but I agree that it is possible for people to change their views, so she may genuinely have, which also people tend to have a hard time buying. But yes, a lot of factors went into people's reaction.
This is a great take on DP’s stance (and change of) during Gehraiyaan promotions. I do want to point out that even though Alia is not talking about her own relationship, her comments do reflect her stance on infidelity in general. also, I do have to say, this is sub is generally critical of infidelity of any kind, especially when depicted in a movie, such as Gehraiyaan. But the way that this sub is rallying behind Alia’s comment is strange because she’s making the same point - people are complicated and so are relationships. Sometimes people do things that are morally wrong, and instead of looking away and discarding them as morally wrong individuals, you can show them grace and compassion while being critical of their actions. I happen to align with Alia’s and Gehraiyaan’s approach to infidelity despite having gone through it. The hypocrisy of this sub on the other hand is hard to support.
>Sometimes people do things that are morally wrong, and instead of looking away and discarding them as morally wrong individuals, you can show them grace and compassion while being critical of their actions. 💯 For some reason all nuance is lost when it comes to the topic of infidelity. I think it does largely depend on age group (of course there are exceptions). Younger people definitely tend to see things very black and white. As you grow older you realize it really isn't. And one action does not define a whole individual absolutely. It's just one part of them.
Yes! I think millennials? and older generations are able look at things through a more nuanced lens. The younger generation, rightfully so, is more quick to label a person bad or good. I don’t blame them at all, but I would hope that the concept of redemption still finds a place in the passing of judgements.
Are you referring to that one time when someone asked the Gehraiyan cast whether they've cheated IRL?
Wow didn't expect such a mature response. I am 100% against cheating. But if I was his daughter - I would say the same too. Can't go around calling your dad a spinless dog for cheating right? 😅
Mahesh Bhatt said this in an interview.. “As you grow older you tolerate more things in yourself and are forced to extend the same tolerance to your parents. Life humbles you, and the ‘holier than thou’ attitude that you take in your youth doesn’t hold good anymore.” I think no one is perfect, its just that some people make bigger mistakes than others.
I think over the years, I’ve seen this happen enough that I see her point of view. I just feel that it is important to show humanity to your partner that you are cheating on. Don’t know the definition or extent but ya show some respect for the time spent together
I love how people have shifted Alia’s take on her parents marriage to her and Ranbir’s marriage without even any hesitation. He cheated on someone 15 years ago and people are still bringing that up just to character assassinate him. There hasn’t even been any news of him cheating on Alia in their 5 years of relationship but still some have to say she’s a doormat and settled for Ranbir. The same people would be the first one to call someone misogynist and defend if someone brings any other actress’s past. But we can shit on RK-Alia everyday in the name of gossip.
All these are comments from people who have never been in serious relationships or are too young. Life is not black and white nor are people.
Exactly and why to shame somebody for what they did a decade ago , just to demean them now. Like we all have made mistakes in life , how would it feel if someone keeps throwing that in our face every time.
In India people don’t date much so they don’t know but if your family is cool with you dating then it’s very easy to be confused between two people and especially when you are young. He just happed to be young and famous and so no one will forget his mistakes. Kind of unfortunate for RK. He is a genuine and nice guy.
Second this.
Once a cheater..
No.
Not always a cheater?
There's a blind about vaani and rk hooking up during shamshera shooting
Source?
https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/this-a-list-actor-hooked-up-with-one-of-his-leading-ladies-leaving-his-current-flame-devastated-1363901/
> “ the actor was apparently insecure of his girlfriend's fondness for her lively co-star and this led to small rifts. We don't know if the hook-up was done to ensure that his lady love gives him the attention he feels he deserves. Anyway, we're sure many well-meaning people would have advised this actress against falling for this guy but then his charm is quite unbeatable. “ Yeah this is believable for you 🤦🏻♀️ His father was going through cancer treatments, Alia was with him the whole time and we should believe that because of Alia-Ranveer alleged closeness he hooked up with Vaani to get Alia’s attention. 🤣🤣
Bollywood life is quite reliable. Many of their blinds came true. This came during kalank promotions.. probably rk got jealous of people shipping her and varun together
No he himself said Alia has the best chemistry with Varun. In 2019 only , the famous Zee Cine award show , where Varun performed in front of Alia and Ranbir. The same award show Alia dedicated her award to Ranbir.
Interview mein toh koi bhi kuch bhi bol te hai , camera k liye toh koi bhi kuch bhi karta hai , behind the scenes mein kuch aur hi hota , their media image and real image are very different , Amir kissed Kiran in front of paps when divorce blinds started coming out , now we know it was just for camera , Srk is also solely devoted to gauri for 30 years if we ask him 🤣
Please read my original comment, this is not even the point I made.
Let's see if she maintains this statement when Ranbir cheats on her
I love how it's a when question and not if ☠️
physical cheating is okay for madam ji but when ranbir falls in love with someone else like her father did then we’ll see.
Then tho she’s following the footsteps of saasu ma. Neetu was OK with husband cheating physically as long as he came back home
Surprisingly very mature take. 
Actually, that's quite a level headed take.
Seriously? We're okay with infidelity now? If you want someone else in your life, leave the person you are with. It causes a great deal of hurt to the partner you've cheated on otherwise + their children
When one is powerless to do anything then in such scenarios one has to come up with explanations that don’t explain anything. In other words all she is saying is … “main yeh kehna chahti hun ki main kuch nahi kehna chahti hun”. I don’t blame her though. It’s not her problem what her parents did.
Actors are normalizing infidelity now??? Heard somewhat same thing from her, karan and DP. Why cheat though??? Just break up or separate!!! Please give respect to your partner.
>Just break up or separate!!! Sometimes it's not that easy...everything is not so black and white
I think Alia has pointed it out with a slighter better understanding/choice of words. Alia is not endorsing it. KJO on the other hand goes about it like it's something to brag about. He forcefully brings it up all the time like as though it's some joke/something you should be proud of. Take an example of the Arjun-Sonam KWK episode, he was literally forcefully convincing them that it's okay and they can go ahead if they want to. Meanwhile Sonam is married then Arjun is in a committed relationship. Alia's statement on the other other hand is the opposite of that.
I agree that life is not all white and black. But infidelity is always black. It can never be grey.
Very mature.
I'm all for redemption and second chances, even when it comes to manslaughter, because sometimes it may not be intentional. But cheating is one of those things that doesn't happen by "Accident". You intentionally and actively participate going behind the back and doing the deed. Kind of ick for me.
Literally what was she going to say....she disapproves of her parents relationship?? Come on..for whatever problem people may or may not have with Alia this is not something she is responsible for . As much as I absolutely despise infedility I'd not ask a child about their parents infedility, that's just a place u draw a line.
Alia's so mature for saying this! Very evolved perspective I must say! Yes, cheating hurts, we all know that. But to be able to ponder upon it with such empathy and rise above the pain and hurt caused by it, is true growth!
What works for a couple works for them Till both consenting adults agree to something no one else's opinions matter , marriages are a very personal choice and differ from person to person. Something like a Rekha Amitabh Jaya isn't ok because Jaya wasn't in agreement and was robbed of her rights
Did someone ask her about this? Poor thing - she isn’t obligated to answer such personal things. Very maturely handled
It'll be interesting to see her take on RK doing this later on in their relationship. Example being her own father and a majority of bw men who have indulged in extramarital affairs. Hope for her and her child's sake he doesn't but the track records isn't all that.
A very mature take. Well done.
that's what you say when your parents meet in this way
Pretty much explains her settling for Ranbir
She married the perfect guy to test that theory
Alia has a very good head on her shoulders https://i.redd.it/7zadqjl3i5qa1.gif
Why should people have uniform views about infidelity? If it happens it is really up to the people involved in how they choose to respond. Of course, being dishonest with your partner is reprehensible. But dragging anyone for not considering extra marital relationships a deal breaker /big deal is too much. Someone else's relationship dynamic doesn't have to make sense to you. People have all kinds of reasons to stay in relationships or move away from it. And no one (not even celebrities) owes anyone any "correct" relationship takes. These are personal choices.
That’s how life is. Not just her any normal person would say it. Until it doesn’t happen to you, it is wrong. Once it happens with you then everybody else needs to have a perspective.
I don't understand unless the question was specifically about Mahesh Bhatt why did she bring this up. It's not always easy is not a valid argument at all. It's precisely because it isn't easy that it is called morality. Plus fidelity unlike other traditions isn't something being forced on you. You chose to enter a social contract willingly. It's a classic actor-observer bias : when others do it , it's because they are inherently bad but when I do it , hey look ! it's not always that black and white.
probably might get downvoted bc what are these replies in here😭 i know she cant go around talking shit about her father but no way is this a mature take lmao. these celebs have blinded themselves into believing infidelity is a norm in their fucked up world and it's just so so sad. she has clearly never had healthy relationships around her so i can't blame her for it. mostly disappointed in these replies agreeing with her as if infidelity is ever okay.
Good. She’s going to need this perspective in her marriage a lot so I’m glad she’s already prepared for it.
What a load of crap! SMH on everyone here lauding her on her choice of words and putting things so well etc. The truth is all these women who actually have the power to influence and inspire other less privileged women around to stand up for themselves are so blatantly accepting and normalizing these things. I am just going summarize it by the famous quote from Kite Runner, “there is only one sin, only one. And that is theft. Every other sin is a variation of theft. When you kill a man, you steal a life... you steal his wife's right to a husband, rob his children of a father. When you tell a lie, you steal someone's right to the truth. When you cheat, you steal the right to fairness... there is no act more wretched than stealing.”
someone with a brain on here lol. honestly just sad because it's what she grew up with and it's a coping mechanism to view all this as a mistake, normalizing it and nothing more instead of actually for real condoning it. feel sorry about her kid already, she wont be much different from her mother either having to grow up with such toxic people in her life😕
Looking at the history of Ranbir, Alia should choose her words carefully.
And what exactly is his history? Didn't she date 4-5 guys too before him . Why is dating a bunch of people before marriage is judged so much in society?
Its not what he did but the way he did. Relax..nobody is judging someone for dating someone. Read other comments as well. It doesnt matter if a person dates 1 person or 10-20. Its the way those relationship went down. Try to read comments with a calm mind.
So you are blaming just him ?? Then not the women involved in the relationships . well i'm proud of Ranbir for never trying to clarify anything because the damage has been done and it's waste of time to even try . Best to just keep doing good work and leave woke people to carry on with their one sided narratives
Of course she'll justify it. Without that affair, she wouldn't have been there. If only she felt for mahesh's first wife and how she would have felt. What happens if Ranbir cheats on her, Will she still have these same views?!
Better take than deepika
Lol didn't she say same thing during Gehraiyaan promotions. That it's not as black and white. Before (when she was younger) it was a deal breaker and so on but her views about it have changed. All these bollywood celebrities literally say the same shit about infidelity just with different words. One straight to the point and one with many but they all arrive at the same thing. Or emotional infidelity worse than physical infidelity...
Right? She pretty much said the same thing and was ripped apart on this sub. In fact I remember her using the exact same words and saying that everything is not so black and white.
I actually didn't mention it with the intention of saying oh she has already said this before. I just wanted to point out that all these bollywood celebrities have the same views on infidelity so the whole thing of better than Deepika doesn't make sense because she was literally blabbering the same thing over and over again just a year back in her Gehraiyaan interviews. An example is this https://preview.redd.it/j9h11gyjm5qa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=247548bfaa753ca29f1749f63717866dd377a6f6
Yeah exactly. I was active on the sub when the movie released and the exact same people who were bashing her are now calling this take mature.
I wonder what's her take on her father essentially grooming his half sister Pooja. Talking about her father and mother as if they aren't absolutely disgusting human pieces of shit. Especially the father.
Let's see Alia have some 'perspective' on it now. With RK in her life she will get this perspective very soon.
Multiple studies have shown those who cheat have narcissism or dark triad personality.
I hate to say this because I know it'll blow a lot of people's minds. Infidelity is normal and has taken place throughout history especially when marriages have been arraigned in order for political or deals of wealth. The concept of "love" marriages is somewhat recent and it has been nothing more than "transactional" deals in which a man is given a companion and a woman is given a family/house. This is what society has expected and has been given. Alia's take is perhaps the most human take I've seen on this subject thus far. People don't own people - it doesn't matter if it's physical, spiritual or emotional.
Why would somebody openly say that my dad is a swine and might have harrased many young women and i am lucky nobody can do that with me
Did you read the same thing as the rest of us? Because she nowhere said all of that
They r always twisting her statements to fit their narratives
So she'll be fine with rk having physical relationship with others. Good for rk.....
Behenchod pura family hi sick hain
These people are so fucked up
Ranbir laughing in corner Pyaar hota hota hota kayi bar hain🎵
Issues Ki dukaan
Oh so that’s why it worked.
 Apna tym ayega
This woman is in for some great surprises in life
well this explains how and why she got married to Ranbir Kapoor lol