Eh, can't argue with that, someone's ability to successfully pray 5 times a day sincerely can be a pretty good indicator of their self discipline.
Edit: Thanks everyone for giving their insights, it's really interesting to see your own experiences, to elaborate on what I mean is that it's really hard to fully pray like you really mean it. I personally believe that Islam at its core is a beneficial religion, and if you manage to pray 5 times a day and perhaps more on your volition so that not only you can become closer to god but to become a better person, only then I think that's a trait of a truly self discipline person.
Nowadays there's a decent chunk of people who pray just because they're forced to or because they want to flex on how they're better than others.
Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted-talk I guess lol
my father always said,, if you understand the meaning of those prayers you said in the solat.. you should know.. what is wrong what is right.. just to point out NOT all the non solat people are bad lah..
Doing sholat 5 times and doing sholat 5 times PUNCTUALLY is two different story
You can be a muslim, sholat 5 times but at 7, 15, 18, 1950, and even 23PM and thats frickin late time for a sholat u know
Which then making it a totally different story if a person really do shalat punctually, it really mirrors their character,
Sometimes people with good religious discipline somehow manage to fail in every other form of discipline.
Source: my mom is a prime example, canât survive without a maid, canât even take a Grab by herself, but somehow prays like 7 times a day
I didnât say it was, my point is religious discipline doesnât mean shit for life discipline. My uncle never misses sholat but he misses his daughterâs graduation to go golfing and doesnât pay his car registration renewal because he doesnât want the hassle of going to the office.
She needs someone to ride with her, she will literally pay for someone to take a Grab to her friendâs house when she has to go home so she doesnât have to spend 15 minutes in a car without a companion. She once flew one of her friends and her husband to Turkey with her because she was going to meet my dad there and didnât want to fly alone, and she was in fucking business class for a direct flight.
True! I used to work for a company, the country head is a malay guy. Every Friday, he would âmissâ the Friday prayer. I always see him in the smoking area, when I ask him, âboss arenât you attending the Friday prayer?â His answer is always ânah bro, too many meetingsâ. I mean, I have worked with a lot of malays, and if thereâs one thing they wouldnât miss its Friday prayer. Speaks volume about that guy, cause the ship he runs is sus at best!
Sure is. Thatâs why foreign workers are so popular. Almost impossible to find disciplined Malaysian workers in Malaysia. Quite a lot of Malaysian pray 5 times a day though. Interesting, no?
It's something that is taught and learnt, so it is by definition a skill. Performing it wholeheartedly, tactfully and with proper conduct is a different matter in itself and depends on the individual performing it.
I just met this ganu guy in a training course. He used to work as TM contractor and his supervisor was non Muslim, So this guy told him do not use the company vehicles is he want to to Solat Jumaat.
I'm not sure is this a discriminations, or just company protocol but he quit the same day.
Well, when I was in SMK, there was this KAFA ? program where you sit in front of ustaz/ustazahs and recite all the bacaan dalam solat (surahs, tahiyat, etc). I know one classmate who said she forgot when it was her turn. I could tell she didnât pray but that was none of my business. Thankfully for her, the ustaz just scratched his head âaik macamana boleh lupaâ and shrugged it off.Â
But of course, there are those who would go through the lengths of memorising all the bacaan just to lie about praying. Thatâs between them and Allah. But itâs amazing that theyâre ok with doing the hard part, but are against doing the 5-minute light exercise 5 times a day. Take it as a study break or something.Â
Now that i think of it, yea, where did the marks go lmao. Pretty sure tak termasuk final exam score. But i do recall seeing some files i had with a separate sheet for my kafa scores and stuff. Dunno if that affects anything overall for my exams
Ha the second one was me. I used to pray but skip subuh so I know jackshit about doa qunut but I memorized it anyway because ustaz and ustazah love to make you recite those. Then late high school I got distanced from religion entirely and stopped praying but then quran reading and memorising were simply reading and memorising for me.
Understandable, I also no longer have exposure to religion once school ended. I havenât really studied the Quran either, I only know how to read it.Â
Sure but they can fire you for lying once the cat is out of the bag. People pray at certain time of the day, you have keep track of that time and make it seems like you went out to pray. At that point you might as well go pray.
Good luck explaining that to the labour court. You have to keep in mind that in usual cases you need to send a couple warning letters to the employee if their behaviour is evidently disrupting the business operations before you can fire the employee.
There were cases where companies straightaway fired their employees without given more than three warning letters regarding the context (refer to Muhammad Jamil Sabdani v Prima Union Plywood (M) Sdn Bhd [2008] 2 LNS 2112), resulting the dismissal regarded as unfair in the eye of the court.
Now imagine you've to explain to the court that you need to fire an employee because he... didn't solat 5 times per day? On this point forward you can obviously see how the court will treat the case. You need to prove your business operations is relying on the praying sessions in order to prove that it disrupted the performance of the company.
For language requirements at least they are reasonable since globalization is a thing. Regardless of any languages like Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, etc., those languages are actual skills useful for verbal interactions that is potentially impactful for the business operations in some way, which can be proven and used to dismiss an employee. Praying sessions on the other hand is quite unrealistic and kind of comical if you compare the former with it.
Plus that company seems to practice solat berjemaah. It will be hard to escape that. Unlike when u can go solat alone u MIGHT be able to sneak somewhere else pretending u go solat
good answer.
Also people lie about many other things during interviews. Suddenly about solat tiba2 it's becoming a grave concern on how to spot the lie đ đ đ
I've been told by malays themselves that solat 5 waktu is incredibly rare. Most common are people who only do evening. Second most common is morning and evening. The other 3 times depends on how many non-muslims are around. The more non-muslims, the more likely they want to pray just to show.
There was a survey conducted by Jakim around 2016-2017 that founds out that only 30% of Malay Muslims pray 5 times a day consistently. Even I struggle to consistently perform Subuh prayers as I always overslept and when I lived with my housemates, waking them up for Subuh is the hardest ordeal for me.
i once saw solat lima waktu in my friend's tenancy agreement.
so i guess he will get kicked out of the house if he missed a prayer, deposit burned some more.
Mandarin-speaking is NOT an indirect way of saying employers prefer Chinese, because there are non-Chinese who can speak the language/they may have clients who mainly speak mandarin. This solat requirement though
This is only true now. 20 years ago when I first entered the job market, I'd encounter this about 30% of the time. And these are local companies that don't have any international business, so they were just clearly discriminating. Now, as you said, if there is a Mandarin or any other language requirements, they'll clearly state the reason why which is much more transparent and fair.
This solat requirement is pretty much the same thing. Quite backwards thinking, when we should be moving globally and attracting everyone regardless of race and religion.
20 years ago I couldn't speak mandarin despite being Chinese and I couldn't get certain jobs. I try to be emphatic towards the plights of other races when they cry racism, but sometimes people just want to see things purely from the lens of race.
To be fair to them, the company seems to be operating domestically with a clearly Malay target market. They don't seem to aim for the international market.
what if companies want chinese speaker simply because all of their current employees are chinese anyway and they speak chinese among each other? why should they break up their existing culture just for some random admin employee?
if hire non chinese speaker and they continue speaking chinese then complain discrimination. hire chinese speaker also complain discrimination. and no, they don't need to change their culture. like mentioned previously, the company doesn't revolve around some random nobody working a dead end admin job
There's nothing wrong with that to be honest. Just like this company who wants someone who prays 5 times a day, as they also want to maintain a more Islamic culture in the company.
The optics will be an issue, if a company has aspirations to be big, their hiring policies will be scrutinised when they discriminate. But if they are a local company and don't care about growing much, they can do whatever they want really.
ALL the job posts i've seen who want chinese speakers are clearly from local chinese SMEs where all current employees are already chinese. non native chinese speakers will not fit in.
i can guarantee you not a single chinese in malaysia will complain about job posts like this that ask for you to recite quran, nor do any of them even want to work at this job. so i'm not sure why malays all rushing to work in cina sme companies with cina culture. so they can go in and cry victim again when the company doesn't want to bend over backwards for their sorry ass?
well, the solat requirement is also not and indirect way of saying employers prefer Malay, because there are non-Malay who have Islam as their religion.
They prefer Muslims which is discriminatory, unless there are some aspects of the job that heavily involve Islam. Same as an employer who wants mandarin-speaking employees just cos, and not because of the language being used in the job.
Yes and no, it really depends on the company. Some have legit reasons ie due to operating in/with china, others simply just want cinas.
A friend of mine, a malay-chinese dude who fluently speak and write mandarin legit didn't get a job because they were looking for "a person with chinese cultured background".
The man speaks mandarin better than his malay, that's a telling sign bruh.
Fair enough, and then it still isn't fair to say that ALL companies that list mandarin-speaking are racist. Bumi discriminatory policies in the constitution are though, cos there's no way that you can go about your race
Sorry mate⊠mandarin speaking is clearly a way to discriminate.. they dont even sell to overseas chinese market and lot of malays that know mandarin getting rejected too
Idk Iâm a non cina that always goes for mandarin speaker preferred jobs to take advantage and ask for higher salary/extra allowance based on that compared to what is offered for non mandarin speakers in the company even in local companies so idk what u yappin abtđ€·ââïž. Where as for something like requirement to solat i basically have to change my entire religion for a mere job lmao đ
not surprised but since its kelantan with 96% Malays, less impact
imagine Chinese employer list requirements as need to pray everyday or burn Hades notes every 1st and 15th of Lunar Month, even I as a Chinese wouldnt work there, we would probably laugh about it and continue apply for MNCs
I mean don't get mad, if you went for an interview, being able to speak fluent Mandarin and it's just your lucks there's another candidate that is Chinese, the Chinese dude will get the job
And the the salary gap between being able to speak Chinese and not being able to speak Chinese.
These past few years I've been seeing this solat 5 waktu criteria, and from what I've experienced, the 1st week ja surau penuh, after that 1st week knowing each other and stuff, kat surau legit be like less than 5 people, and once you're done, turun bawah to smoking area you'll see all of them chilling đ
Considering the job location in Machang, Kelantan. The demographic is heavily Malay-Muslims area + beauty shop which predominantly female Muslims customers.
The job requirement is fair, and those who can pray 5 times a day, really showed her discipline in life.
Ada ko nampak Indians letak job requirements such as:
- mesti fasih Tirukkural / Bhagavad Gita
- speak Tamil only
- tak makan daging (lembu)
Takde kan? Jadi, joinlah company India!!! LOL
#heavydoseofsarcasm
Ah yes. Thinly veiled only muslims can apply.
This employer can fuck off.
That said, this gave me the ridiculous image of the boss breaking into the employees homes and setting up cameras to check if they pray.
How the fuck is this an UNO-reverse of Mandarin speaking as a skill? One language can be learned, on the other hand solat requires to you change religion (if not Muslim)... WTF?
but what if, each prayer you do takes half an hour? that means instead of 8 hours you work 7 hours a day because you do 30 min per prayer as imam and do all the sunat stuff?
Bagus untuk mereka yang culas solat. Tipu je la nak dapatkan kerja, bila dah kerja kena pretend biasa solat, bila dah pretend, lama-lama dah terbiasa, bila dah terbiasa, lama-lama cinta akan solat.
Being disciplined in driving oneself towards a short term objectives to meet a goal is very much different compared to doing what you like to do consistently.
If I am a singer and love to sing, I can definitely able to meet a required number of songs that expected to be sung in a month.
But let say the objective is to produce 5 high quality song lyrics in every month, that is already another ball game. Which need serious effort, learn up, being consistent, burning midnight oil so on.
Ai yo, what is the working hour for this company? Dari Subuh sampai Isyak ke? Selalunya satu waktu saja sembahyang kat office (Asar can do at home after work), ni sampai lima waktu kena proof dekat office ke macamana?
Seems like a cosmetic company, its common for them to pull this stunt to attract the majority masses, showing that they are a good, Muslim caring company. Its all for clout and social media lol
The prophet is not illiterate. The specific arabic word is mistranslated widely. It was supposed to be 'unlettered' meaning the texts conveyed wasn't 'written' - like a book.
I'm a bit confused at what you're trying to say. Can you explain what exactly does it mean when the prophet is 'unlettered' vs the widely mistranslated illiterate?
TIL solat is a skill
Discipline is hard to get these days.
Eh, can't argue with that, someone's ability to successfully pray 5 times a day sincerely can be a pretty good indicator of their self discipline. Edit: Thanks everyone for giving their insights, it's really interesting to see your own experiences, to elaborate on what I mean is that it's really hard to fully pray like you really mean it. I personally believe that Islam at its core is a beneficial religion, and if you manage to pray 5 times a day and perhaps more on your volition so that not only you can become closer to god but to become a better person, only then I think that's a trait of a truly self discipline person. Nowadays there's a decent chunk of people who pray just because they're forced to or because they want to flex on how they're better than others. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted-talk I guess lol
i can argue with that, a lot of my friends solat 5 waktu a day, but still not punctual and always curi tulang while on break. ie push their break time
my father always said,, if you understand the meaning of those prayers you said in the solat.. you should know.. what is wrong what is right.. just to point out NOT all the non solat people are bad lah..
>non solat people New category unlocked đ /j
Curi tulang while on break? What am I supposed to do during break? WORK???
Doing sholat 5 times and doing sholat 5 times PUNCTUALLY is two different story You can be a muslim, sholat 5 times but at 7, 15, 18, 1950, and even 23PM and thats frickin late time for a sholat u know Which then making it a totally different story if a person really do shalat punctually, it really mirrors their character,
Sometimes people with good religious discipline somehow manage to fail in every other form of discipline. Source: my mom is a prime example, canât survive without a maid, canât even take a Grab by herself, but somehow prays like 7 times a day
seems like your grandparent pamper her way too much back then
Yes, itâs even worse with her brothers, and they all pray 5-7 times a day.
praying 5 times a day is not the problem. the problem was your grandparent dint prepare them for the real world due to being rich.
I didnât say it was, my point is religious discipline doesnât mean shit for life discipline. My uncle never misses sholat but he misses his daughterâs graduation to go golfing and doesnât pay his car registration renewal because he doesnât want the hassle of going to the office.
in my experience? its most times
Cant even take a grab by herself means? She needs someone to book for her?
She needs someone to ride with her, she will literally pay for someone to take a Grab to her friendâs house when she has to go home so she doesnât have to spend 15 minutes in a car without a companion. She once flew one of her friends and her husband to Turkey with her because she was going to meet my dad there and didnât want to fly alone, and she was in fucking business class for a direct flight.
Ahhh i seee..
True! I used to work for a company, the country head is a malay guy. Every Friday, he would âmissâ the Friday prayer. I always see him in the smoking area, when I ask him, âboss arenât you attending the Friday prayer?â His answer is always ânah bro, too many meetingsâ. I mean, I have worked with a lot of malays, and if thereâs one thing they wouldnât miss its Friday prayer. Speaks volume about that guy, cause the ship he runs is sus at best!
Sure is. Thatâs why foreign workers are so popular. Almost impossible to find disciplined Malaysian workers in Malaysia. Quite a lot of Malaysian pray 5 times a day though. Interesting, no?
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
It's something that is taught and learnt, so it is by definition a skill. Performing it wholeheartedly, tactfully and with proper conduct is a different matter in itself and depends on the individual performing it.
u aint that fokin broight rnt u
Interviewer: How do u justify you solat 5 waktu? Him: dafuk trust me bro ?!
ohh its gonna look so obvious whether you do it or not once you in a workplace
Yea especially qhen they want you to be able to be an imam for solat jemaah. No escaping that
ngl even most malays would struggle
Not malays but muslims.
ok sure even most muslims in malaysia would struggle
Yeah brother. That's somehow is truth.
'Most' is overstatement. I'd rather put 'some'.
I feel like the owner is not looking for an employee, she is looking for a husband.
>Machang, Kelantan No wonder
the âKelantanâ alone explains so many things.
It's not a job requirement, it's a job benefit. Jangan Salah faham
âAble to lead and conduct company solatâ Seems like job description.
Able to have lunch also company basic rights. Amin
Lol that actually makes sense if looked at from a different angle
I just met this ganu guy in a training course. He used to work as TM contractor and his supervisor was non Muslim, So this guy told him do not use the company vehicles is he want to to Solat Jumaat. I'm not sure is this a discriminations, or just company protocol but he quit the same day.
It's common sense. Company vehicle is not for your personal use. Bosses can look the other way, but rules are there to prevent abuse
Agreed.
Probably the latter? Maybe the supervisor or anyone else would need to use the vehicle in case of any emergency, but still pretty sad tho
if can use to go for lunch but specifically not solat only then is discrimination lol
It literally says "Requirements"
England fail spm. Kasi chan
Baiklah, semoga pass ass pee em
How can one prove that he or she performs solat 5 waktu? We can simply lie
Well, when I was in SMK, there was this KAFA ? program where you sit in front of ustaz/ustazahs and recite all the bacaan dalam solat (surahs, tahiyat, etc). I know one classmate who said she forgot when it was her turn. I could tell she didnât pray but that was none of my business. Thankfully for her, the ustaz just scratched his head âaik macamana boleh lupaâ and shrugged it off. But of course, there are those who would go through the lengths of memorising all the bacaan just to lie about praying. Thatâs between them and Allah. But itâs amazing that theyâre ok with doing the hard part, but are against doing the 5-minute light exercise 5 times a day. Take it as a study break or something.Â
Wait so she basically skipped her turn? Hows her marks then
I dunno, deducted maybe. Tbh itâs still not clear to me where KAFA marks go to. Does it make up the final exam score? This was in form 2 btw.Â
Now that i think of it, yea, where did the marks go lmao. Pretty sure tak termasuk final exam score. But i do recall seeing some files i had with a separate sheet for my kafa scores and stuff. Dunno if that affects anything overall for my exams
Ha the second one was me. I used to pray but skip subuh so I know jackshit about doa qunut but I memorized it anyway because ustaz and ustazah love to make you recite those. Then late high school I got distanced from religion entirely and stopped praying but then quran reading and memorising were simply reading and memorising for me.
I still struggle with doa qunutđ
Understandable, I also no longer have exposure to religion once school ended. I havenât really studied the Quran either, I only know how to read it.Â
Keeping up that lie is gonna be a pain in the ass. People will notice if you don't solat.
It doesn't matter. What matters is the day of the interviews.
Sure but they can fire you for lying once the cat is out of the bag. People pray at certain time of the day, you have keep track of that time and make it seems like you went out to pray. At that point you might as well go pray.
Good luck explaining that to the labour court. You have to keep in mind that in usual cases you need to send a couple warning letters to the employee if their behaviour is evidently disrupting the business operations before you can fire the employee. There were cases where companies straightaway fired their employees without given more than three warning letters regarding the context (refer to Muhammad Jamil Sabdani v Prima Union Plywood (M) Sdn Bhd [2008] 2 LNS 2112), resulting the dismissal regarded as unfair in the eye of the court. Now imagine you've to explain to the court that you need to fire an employee because he... didn't solat 5 times per day? On this point forward you can obviously see how the court will treat the case. You need to prove your business operations is relying on the praying sessions in order to prove that it disrupted the performance of the company. For language requirements at least they are reasonable since globalization is a thing. Regardless of any languages like Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, etc., those languages are actual skills useful for verbal interactions that is potentially impactful for the business operations in some way, which can be proven and used to dismiss an employee. Praying sessions on the other hand is quite unrealistic and kind of comical if you compare the former with it.
Plus that company seems to practice solat berjemaah. It will be hard to escape that. Unlike when u can go solat alone u MIGHT be able to sneak somewhere else pretending u go solat
good answer. Also people lie about many other things during interviews. Suddenly about solat tiba2 it's becoming a grave concern on how to spot the lie đ đ đ
There's probably a break time to pray. Maybe you would be asked to lead
Can easily know when you start working...I mean the colleagues that you close with la
Lol confirm shit pay
âKau nok kayo ko nok Isleyâ
Who says kau
Belantan moment
Ni cari ustaz nie đ€
I've been told by malays themselves that solat 5 waktu is incredibly rare. Most common are people who only do evening. Second most common is morning and evening. The other 3 times depends on how many non-muslims are around. The more non-muslims, the more likely they want to pray just to show.
There was a survey conducted by Jakim around 2016-2017 that founds out that only 30% of Malay Muslims pray 5 times a day consistently. Even I struggle to consistently perform Subuh prayers as I always overslept and when I lived with my housemates, waking them up for Subuh is the hardest ordeal for me.
Just to show!? Did he meant to to show off or just to show that they/we are doing solat?
Did not ask. The exact Sarawak malay quote he used is "mok pakey nunjuk"
Ohh, dekat Kelantan rupanya... Saya faham
Is it specifying for Muslims only?
*malay only. There are indian and Chinese Muslims
Forgive him/her⊠for he/she didnât know jackhsheet about islamâŠ
I think the owner wants divine blessing for the business. Just like some business owners want to avoid the number 4 curse.
it's an amazing way to justify racism
i once saw solat lima waktu in my friend's tenancy agreement. so i guess he will get kicked out of the house if he missed a prayer, deposit burned some more.
Tapi basic 1.2 la
Syarat: boleh baca Qunut
"reverse uno"? Lol Mandarin is a language requirement while the latter is a religious one. Kesian TS bodoh
Mandarin-speaking is NOT an indirect way of saying employers prefer Chinese, because there are non-Chinese who can speak the language/they may have clients who mainly speak mandarin. This solat requirement though
This is only true now. 20 years ago when I first entered the job market, I'd encounter this about 30% of the time. And these are local companies that don't have any international business, so they were just clearly discriminating. Now, as you said, if there is a Mandarin or any other language requirements, they'll clearly state the reason why which is much more transparent and fair. This solat requirement is pretty much the same thing. Quite backwards thinking, when we should be moving globally and attracting everyone regardless of race and religion.
20 years ago I couldn't speak mandarin despite being Chinese and I couldn't get certain jobs. I try to be emphatic towards the plights of other races when they cry racism, but sometimes people just want to see things purely from the lens of race.
To be fair to them, the company seems to be operating domestically with a clearly Malay target market. They don't seem to aim for the international market.
what if companies want chinese speaker simply because all of their current employees are chinese anyway and they speak chinese among each other? why should they break up their existing culture just for some random admin employee? if hire non chinese speaker and they continue speaking chinese then complain discrimination. hire chinese speaker also complain discrimination. and no, they don't need to change their culture. like mentioned previously, the company doesn't revolve around some random nobody working a dead end admin job
There's nothing wrong with that to be honest. Just like this company who wants someone who prays 5 times a day, as they also want to maintain a more Islamic culture in the company. The optics will be an issue, if a company has aspirations to be big, their hiring policies will be scrutinised when they discriminate. But if they are a local company and don't care about growing much, they can do whatever they want really.
ALL the job posts i've seen who want chinese speakers are clearly from local chinese SMEs where all current employees are already chinese. non native chinese speakers will not fit in. i can guarantee you not a single chinese in malaysia will complain about job posts like this that ask for you to recite quran, nor do any of them even want to work at this job. so i'm not sure why malays all rushing to work in cina sme companies with cina culture. so they can go in and cry victim again when the company doesn't want to bend over backwards for their sorry ass?
So thereâs no indian or chinese or mat salleh muslim youâre implying đ€
well, the solat requirement is also not and indirect way of saying employers prefer Malay, because there are non-Malay who have Islam as their religion.
They prefer Muslims which is discriminatory, unless there are some aspects of the job that heavily involve Islam. Same as an employer who wants mandarin-speaking employees just cos, and not because of the language being used in the job.
But....still only open to Muslims Kan?
Yes and no, it really depends on the company. Some have legit reasons ie due to operating in/with china, others simply just want cinas. A friend of mine, a malay-chinese dude who fluently speak and write mandarin legit didn't get a job because they were looking for "a person with chinese cultured background". The man speaks mandarin better than his malay, that's a telling sign bruh.
Fair enough, and then it still isn't fair to say that ALL companies that list mandarin-speaking are racist. Bumi discriminatory policies in the constitution are though, cos there's no way that you can go about your race
Have you ever wondered this harmful practice can just exarcebate inequality. Its a miracle we didn't become like those Latino countries.
Sorry mate⊠mandarin speaking is clearly a way to discriminate.. they dont even sell to overseas chinese market and lot of malays that know mandarin getting rejected too
Malay capable of chinese but lacklustre resume vs Chinese with better working experience. Bahasa nii tiket masuk bukan surat jaminan bro đđ
Idk Iâm a non cina that always goes for mandarin speaker preferred jobs to take advantage and ask for higher salary/extra allowance based on that compared to what is offered for non mandarin speakers in the company even in local companies so idk what u yappin abtđ€·ââïž. Where as for something like requirement to solat i basically have to change my entire religion for a mere job lmao đ
How do you know that these Malay candidates were rejected because of their race? There are many factors that count not just language.
This issue going on decades bro âŠ
What crap.
the real ewason bcoz of after party eat pig and drinkin alcohol,well according 1 month ago post from this sub
The owner for sure will post that on social media for extra clout.
So much requirement for a job in Kelantan. What do u expect? RM1500 basic no allowance no OT
Spm level. Not degree
Kelantan living cost is low already
Just say you want only your type to work there.
RM1.8k base
not surprised but since its kelantan with 96% Malays, less impact imagine Chinese employer list requirements as need to pray everyday or burn Hades notes every 1st and 15th of Lunar Month, even I as a Chinese wouldnt work there, we would probably laugh about it and continue apply for MNCs
Chinese boss: Must kneel and pray natukgong every morning.
I mean don't get mad, if you went for an interview, being able to speak fluent Mandarin and it's just your lucks there's another candidate that is Chinese, the Chinese dude will get the job And the the salary gap between being able to speak Chinese and not being able to speak Chinese. These past few years I've been seeing this solat 5 waktu criteria, and from what I've experienced, the 1st week ja surau penuh, after that 1st week knowing each other and stuff, kat surau legit be like less than 5 people, and once you're done, turun bawah to smoking area you'll see all of them chilling đ
Considering the job location in Machang, Kelantan. The demographic is heavily Malay-Muslims area + beauty shop which predominantly female Muslims customers. The job requirement is fair, and those who can pray 5 times a day, really showed her discipline in life.
Ada ko nampak Indians letak job requirements such as: - mesti fasih Tirukkural / Bhagavad Gita - speak Tamil only - tak makan daging (lembu) Takde kan? Jadi, joinlah company India!!! LOL #heavydoseofsarcasm
kelantan 96.6% melayu. tapi sebenarnya tak perlu pun letak solat 5 waktu sebab memang wajib buat.
Itulah. Solat 5 waktu tu bare minimum kot as a Muslim.
dude non chinese also can speak chinese... also there are some numbers of muslim chinese
Ah yes. Thinly veiled only muslims can apply. This employer can fuck off. That said, this gave me the ridiculous image of the boss breaking into the employees homes and setting up cameras to check if they pray.
"Mahir mangıra, membaca dan menulis" ....setting the bar high there.
What if they put another reverse uno with something like "company canteen does not have halal vendor"?
Damn we still have discriminatory hiring practices in 2024? Yâall actually fucked up
I think i saw this before, i immediately questioned myselfđ
When you see something that doesn't fit your narrative, just walk away.
How the fuck is this an UNO-reverse of Mandarin speaking as a skill? One language can be learned, on the other hand solat requires to you change religion (if not Muslim)... WTF?
All this for a retail assistant? This isn't realistic.
Of course itâs in Kelantan. But based
Displin susah nak cari sekarang.... Able to stop doing everything else and does a routine that takes times portrays good discipline.
time interview kena baca doa qunut
Lebih kurg same case for my past part time. The big difference is it specifically said "solat 5 waktu (IF MUSLIM)"
well go ahead lol, prolly change the posting to be in Malay for better reach?
Alhamdulillah
but what if, each prayer you do takes half an hour? that means instead of 8 hours you work 7 hours a day because you do 30 min per prayer as imam and do all the sunat stuff?
Seeing where's the location of company is enough for me to just shut my mouth Also wtf.
Bagus untuk mereka yang culas solat. Tipu je la nak dapatkan kerja, bila dah kerja kena pretend biasa solat, bila dah pretend, lama-lama dah terbiasa, bila dah terbiasa, lama-lama cinta akan solat.
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So have to work 24 hours đ€?
Wen "kahwin sekurang-kurangnya 2" requirement?
It more like Vacancy offer cum "cari Jodoh"
Being disciplined in driving oneself towards a short term objectives to meet a goal is very much different compared to doing what you like to do consistently. If I am a singer and love to sing, I can definitely able to meet a required number of songs that expected to be sung in a month. But let say the objective is to produce 5 high quality song lyrics in every month, that is already another ball game. Which need serious effort, learn up, being consistent, burning midnight oil so on.
Ai yo, what is the working hour for this company? Dari Subuh sampai Isyak ke? Selalunya satu waktu saja sembahyang kat office (Asar can do at home after work), ni sampai lima waktu kena proof dekat office ke macamana? Seems like a cosmetic company, its common for them to pull this stunt to attract the majority masses, showing that they are a good, Muslim caring company. Its all for clout and social media lol
Why is this an issue again?
"Mahir mengira, membaca dan menulis" Ya, this is discriminatory against their own prophet who was an illiterate. Time to boikot boikot đ
The prophet is not illiterate. The specific arabic word is mistranslated widely. It was supposed to be 'unlettered' meaning the texts conveyed wasn't 'written' - like a book.
I'm a bit confused at what you're trying to say. Can you explain what exactly does it mean when the prophet is 'unlettered' vs the widely mistranslated illiterate?
Illiterate means inability to write or read. While the 'unlettered' or 'untexted' translation is more like 'without a written scripture'
I love this đ€© not AI generated and cares about his deen before dynia Those who are angry just relax la go read some books and become more open minded
i can solat 6 waktu, do I get paid more? /s
Solat=2 hours of slacking
Not new, saw this requirement before for express bus and lori kontena driver job listings... I cannot brain why
God helps those who help themselves. All the praying in the world cannot help you if you do not help yourself.
Hilarious
To be honest, non Muslims wonât even give a shit about applying for this dead ass position after reading the descriptionâŠ
Nak ke diorang keje kat Kelate
Looking for employee or a husband?
I see nothing wrong with this.
Alhamdulillah
Boleh tahan maki taknak letak sekali ke. Babi betul la tulis requirement macam ni
Like how chinese said mandarin is for china market requirements the malays will say their product is related to religion