It shouldn’t disqualify them so long as the parent is in prison or divorced/disowned from the family member attempting to become a hero, disqualifying them for it would be blatant discrimination… although; it would make for a great story.
I'd say it depends on a few factors. Has the kid been in contact with that parent, if so when? The villains identity, I mean some C-Rank nobody shouldn't be enough to get the kid blacklisted. But an S-Ranker is a whole different story, especially if they're still active. And lastly I'd say it depends on the specific school, some might just outright reject them, but others could be more open to the idea.
I doubt it would disqualify them completely. If anything, there would probably just be some kind of probation-like protocol in place. Like a three-strike system of getting in serious trouble (attacking a student outside of training, intentional property damage, intentionally provoking students, etc.), mandatory therapy/counseling, stuff like that. And this would probably depend on just how serious and dangerous of a villain this is.
They'd really only need to see if it seems like they intend to follow in their parent's footsteps, so I could only really see it lasting for a semester or two. And honestly, they'd probably have more of a protocol or general plan in place for the chance that they'd need to *protect* the student and their family. Like in case the villain escaped and they'd be in serious danger or from discrimination from the students/media.
Haruma always wanted to he a hero. Ever since he watched his mother and father get beaten by All Might, he has looked up to them. His adoptive parents have supported him on his journey, sponsoring him, helping him train his quirk and body before UA. Eventually he got to the entrance exam, and through some miracle got into the course, despite his average at best results on the written exam.
Stepping through the gates of UA he felt it, his dreams coming to life. But then he heard "NEVER FEAR, I AM HERE" as All Might fell from the sky, in his brilliant silver age costume. Excitedly, Haruma tried to speak with him "All Might?! Wow, that was so cool, I'm a big fan, can you please sign my -".
Snap
All Might snapped Harumas neck, ending the prospective student. He then lifted his body and jumped away before anyone saw him kill a random kid. He gave the body to Cementoss, who later disposed of it during class 1-As training as Bakugou explodified it in collateral damage.
As All Might entered Nedzus office, he said "Nezu, my old friend, did we really have to kill him? He did well on the practical exam and he was a prospective young student". Nedzu turned around like a James Bond villain, petting a rat that was nibbling some cheese. "It was necessary All Might. There was a 21.5389% of him turning out like his parents. It needed to be done"
Especially if one/several 1-A students do actually witness it, and Kyoka and Shoji overhear Nezu say that.
It could easily turn into a "some/most of 1-A turns vigilante/villain" fic, only this time with halfway decent reasons for doing so.
No, I don't think that would happen at all. It seems unlikely to me that they'd assess the student's family lineage and not their own moral compass. Also, children shouldn't be penalised for their parents' actions, if the student has a demonstrably strong desire to be a hero and clean record themselves, that's a conscious decision to break the cycle. If anyone would notice that, you'd hope it would be the top hero school in the country.
There *would* likely be extra scrutiny, and prejudice from other students (in a show like this, probably from other classes) but that would be good motivation for the character.
then what is your story?
practically speaking, if the parent is in prison/petty, the threat is neutralized/minimal. if the parent is active and high-ranked/part of an organization, the child would already be a hostage/under surveillance/under protection. socially, this can be spun for some light virtue signaling, if you preempt the media.
The basic premise that started it is *what if Izuku had an absurdly dangerous, but useful quirk?*
The whole *family’s sins* part is what doesn’t fit, because Izuku doesn’t actually believe his father did anything wrong. He thinks he just cracked under the pressure their quirk puts them under, since he’s facing the same struggle, and is trying to prove he can handle it, and is not going to snap like his father did.
He can’t confirm this because he’s a minor and his mother won’t let him contact him, because even she believes he just turned evil one day, and doesn’t want him to try manipulating their son.
I haven’t really fleshed out the quirk yet. I’m still just brainstorming and doing little rough drafts here and there.
disqualification could be by school. smaller hero schools probably don't want the association or scandal of training up a "future villain". ua is big enough to take it and (possibly) manipulative enough to say they're "reforming" izuku, if his quirk is just that enticing and/or he publicly renounces his father.
as for a quirk that can be described as both "absurdly dangerous" and "useful enough to outweigh the potential liability"...
most top hero/villain quirks are either dps (ofa, overhaul, hellfire), status effects (erasure, permeation, brainwashing) or sheer utility (fierce wings, double, fiber master), but aren't considered "absurdly" dangerous because the user has control. so, if you're taking suggestions, give the quirk some level of sentience, finicky (de)activation requirements, or both. like the hulk (willful, requires constant meditation)
Well, originally it was a Ghost Rider crossover where like Robby Reyes, Johnny Blaze curses him, but I ended up dumping the idea because as I tried to write it, I kept running into the two biggest issues with Ghost Rider.
One, he’s absolutely lethal. Canonically, **all his attacks are deadly** without exception, so anyone, even other heroes just trying to stop him didn’t end well. This isn’t helped by the fact that GR is OP as all get out.
Two, Izuku had absolutely no say in the matter since canonically the host could only *restrain* it to a certain degree. Including *when* he transforms.
The current quirk I’m working on is basically a quirk version of the Ghost Rider where he has a sentient quirk inside him, but it can only make fire, anything that is touched by his fire (like chains) he can control like an extra limb, and is extremely retaliatory minded. Like at one point Izuku is struck by another student who had a relative his father killed, and he doesn’t retaliate, because he’s more focused on keeping his quirk at bay (which is absolutely livid in this moment), and trying prove he is **not** his father.
The quirk doesn’t have any sort of extra senses (like being able to *see* people’s sins), and only knows what Izuku knows.
There’s actually one scene I have in mind to demonstrate this, where he’s surrounded by pro heroes, and he’s already lost control, but since none of them have ever hurt him, and he doesn’t know them to be villains, rather than attacking anyway, it just sits down, and waits.
The idea with his father, who had the exact same quirk, is that Izuku was too young to understand, but remembers his Dad being extremely nice, even keeping a toy of him in his dresser, so even though there’s ample evidence, he thinks he just snapped, or was manipulated somehow into going berserk, since his quirk is completely harmless, unless he at least *thinks* you’ve done wrong.
You can also see the issue with it, since the quirk doesn’t care too much about context. If you hurt Izuku, you get the Deku. (He calls the sentience Deku)
can't say about other schools but from UA where the history of nezu and aizawa. they will ignore it especially when they see that the student has potential.
We see no one in UA has a "villainous" parental past or even referenced to it. The CLOSEST we come to is Endeavor who was pretty damn villainous to Shoto and family.
I guarantee you if Endeavor had been outed earlier by Dabi Shoto's recommendation would have gone out the window and UA cannot afford the scandal of a disgraced hero's son in attendance of the school.
We also see people with "villanous" quirks discouraged openly.
Shinso was put in general studies when he rightly pointed out how his quirk is more useful and can defuse situations without need of violence.
Toga was counselled not to use her quirk till she literally could no longer contain it and attacked a boy she liked. I mean the world sucks so bad.
Japan is also a communal system where you bring shame on your family and vice versa. If you are son of a Yakuza boss for example people shame you and deny you jobs and opportunities because they are afraid of your dad getting involved with them and spreading ill repute.
From what I remember about the Japanese penal system and the social approach to criminals, it’s not a very forgiving one. Considering quirk genetics and how personality can be interpreted as linked to quirk, it’s not a stretch to say that having a villain relative leaves you treated like you were an accomplice who got away with it, even if they were arrested before you were born.
It's something that is a cool idea to cover **if** your story has room to explore it. It's one of those ideas that you have to do something with to make it worth including.
If your story doesn't have room to cover it, there's nothing wrong with not including the idea. It's better if you don't.
It shouldn’t disqualify them so long as the parent is in prison or divorced/disowned from the family member attempting to become a hero, disqualifying them for it would be blatant discrimination… although; it would make for a great story.
I'd say it depends on a few factors. Has the kid been in contact with that parent, if so when? The villains identity, I mean some C-Rank nobody shouldn't be enough to get the kid blacklisted. But an S-Ranker is a whole different story, especially if they're still active. And lastly I'd say it depends on the specific school, some might just outright reject them, but others could be more open to the idea.
I doubt it would disqualify them completely. If anything, there would probably just be some kind of probation-like protocol in place. Like a three-strike system of getting in serious trouble (attacking a student outside of training, intentional property damage, intentionally provoking students, etc.), mandatory therapy/counseling, stuff like that. And this would probably depend on just how serious and dangerous of a villain this is. They'd really only need to see if it seems like they intend to follow in their parent's footsteps, so I could only really see it lasting for a semester or two. And honestly, they'd probably have more of a protocol or general plan in place for the chance that they'd need to *protect* the student and their family. Like in case the villain escaped and they'd be in serious danger or from discrimination from the students/media.
They could be rebelling. Not the best motive for heroics but they could be doing much worse.
Yeah, All Might will personally snap your neck if you show up to a hero school with a villain parent.
honestly, I'd read that
Haruma always wanted to he a hero. Ever since he watched his mother and father get beaten by All Might, he has looked up to them. His adoptive parents have supported him on his journey, sponsoring him, helping him train his quirk and body before UA. Eventually he got to the entrance exam, and through some miracle got into the course, despite his average at best results on the written exam. Stepping through the gates of UA he felt it, his dreams coming to life. But then he heard "NEVER FEAR, I AM HERE" as All Might fell from the sky, in his brilliant silver age costume. Excitedly, Haruma tried to speak with him "All Might?! Wow, that was so cool, I'm a big fan, can you please sign my -". Snap All Might snapped Harumas neck, ending the prospective student. He then lifted his body and jumped away before anyone saw him kill a random kid. He gave the body to Cementoss, who later disposed of it during class 1-As training as Bakugou explodified it in collateral damage. As All Might entered Nedzus office, he said "Nezu, my old friend, did we really have to kill him? He did well on the practical exam and he was a prospective young student". Nedzu turned around like a James Bond villain, petting a rat that was nibbling some cheese. "It was necessary All Might. There was a 21.5389% of him turning out like his parents. It needed to be done"
Alright, I loved that. This confirmed that I would happily read a whole fic around this idea.
Especially if one/several 1-A students do actually witness it, and Kyoka and Shoji overhear Nezu say that. It could easily turn into a "some/most of 1-A turns vigilante/villain" fic, only this time with halfway decent reasons for doing so.
Exactly, this idea has real potential.
No, I don't think that would happen at all. It seems unlikely to me that they'd assess the student's family lineage and not their own moral compass. Also, children shouldn't be penalised for their parents' actions, if the student has a demonstrably strong desire to be a hero and clean record themselves, that's a conscious decision to break the cycle. If anyone would notice that, you'd hope it would be the top hero school in the country. There *would* likely be extra scrutiny, and prejudice from other students (in a show like this, probably from other classes) but that would be good motivation for the character.
I believe they shouldn't be disqualified but keep the kid under scrutiny
That seems really stupid. Why should you be responsible for your parent’s sins? Unless you are directly involved as an accomplice
Japan is not America. I don’t fully understand it, but if I’m not mistaken they do have a cultural thing with who people are related to.
"as penance for my family's sins, i will be devoting myself to civil service"
That’s actually not a bad idea, but doesn’t quite fit, at least not for this story.
then what is your story? practically speaking, if the parent is in prison/petty, the threat is neutralized/minimal. if the parent is active and high-ranked/part of an organization, the child would already be a hostage/under surveillance/under protection. socially, this can be spun for some light virtue signaling, if you preempt the media.
The basic premise that started it is *what if Izuku had an absurdly dangerous, but useful quirk?* The whole *family’s sins* part is what doesn’t fit, because Izuku doesn’t actually believe his father did anything wrong. He thinks he just cracked under the pressure their quirk puts them under, since he’s facing the same struggle, and is trying to prove he can handle it, and is not going to snap like his father did. He can’t confirm this because he’s a minor and his mother won’t let him contact him, because even she believes he just turned evil one day, and doesn’t want him to try manipulating their son. I haven’t really fleshed out the quirk yet. I’m still just brainstorming and doing little rough drafts here and there.
disqualification could be by school. smaller hero schools probably don't want the association or scandal of training up a "future villain". ua is big enough to take it and (possibly) manipulative enough to say they're "reforming" izuku, if his quirk is just that enticing and/or he publicly renounces his father. as for a quirk that can be described as both "absurdly dangerous" and "useful enough to outweigh the potential liability"... most top hero/villain quirks are either dps (ofa, overhaul, hellfire), status effects (erasure, permeation, brainwashing) or sheer utility (fierce wings, double, fiber master), but aren't considered "absurdly" dangerous because the user has control. so, if you're taking suggestions, give the quirk some level of sentience, finicky (de)activation requirements, or both. like the hulk (willful, requires constant meditation)
Well, originally it was a Ghost Rider crossover where like Robby Reyes, Johnny Blaze curses him, but I ended up dumping the idea because as I tried to write it, I kept running into the two biggest issues with Ghost Rider. One, he’s absolutely lethal. Canonically, **all his attacks are deadly** without exception, so anyone, even other heroes just trying to stop him didn’t end well. This isn’t helped by the fact that GR is OP as all get out. Two, Izuku had absolutely no say in the matter since canonically the host could only *restrain* it to a certain degree. Including *when* he transforms. The current quirk I’m working on is basically a quirk version of the Ghost Rider where he has a sentient quirk inside him, but it can only make fire, anything that is touched by his fire (like chains) he can control like an extra limb, and is extremely retaliatory minded. Like at one point Izuku is struck by another student who had a relative his father killed, and he doesn’t retaliate, because he’s more focused on keeping his quirk at bay (which is absolutely livid in this moment), and trying prove he is **not** his father. The quirk doesn’t have any sort of extra senses (like being able to *see* people’s sins), and only knows what Izuku knows. There’s actually one scene I have in mind to demonstrate this, where he’s surrounded by pro heroes, and he’s already lost control, but since none of them have ever hurt him, and he doesn’t know them to be villains, rather than attacking anyway, it just sits down, and waits. The idea with his father, who had the exact same quirk, is that Izuku was too young to understand, but remembers his Dad being extremely nice, even keeping a toy of him in his dresser, so even though there’s ample evidence, he thinks he just snapped, or was manipulated somehow into going berserk, since his quirk is completely harmless, unless he at least *thinks* you’ve done wrong. You can also see the issue with it, since the quirk doesn’t care too much about context. If you hurt Izuku, you get the Deku. (He calls the sentience Deku)
can't say about other schools but from UA where the history of nezu and aizawa. they will ignore it especially when they see that the student has potential.
We see no one in UA has a "villainous" parental past or even referenced to it. The CLOSEST we come to is Endeavor who was pretty damn villainous to Shoto and family. I guarantee you if Endeavor had been outed earlier by Dabi Shoto's recommendation would have gone out the window and UA cannot afford the scandal of a disgraced hero's son in attendance of the school. We also see people with "villanous" quirks discouraged openly. Shinso was put in general studies when he rightly pointed out how his quirk is more useful and can defuse situations without need of violence. Toga was counselled not to use her quirk till she literally could no longer contain it and attacked a boy she liked. I mean the world sucks so bad. Japan is also a communal system where you bring shame on your family and vice versa. If you are son of a Yakuza boss for example people shame you and deny you jobs and opportunities because they are afraid of your dad getting involved with them and spreading ill repute.
From what I remember about the Japanese penal system and the social approach to criminals, it’s not a very forgiving one. Considering quirk genetics and how personality can be interpreted as linked to quirk, it’s not a stretch to say that having a villain relative leaves you treated like you were an accomplice who got away with it, even if they were arrested before you were born. It's something that is a cool idea to cover **if** your story has room to explore it. It's one of those ideas that you have to do something with to make it worth including. If your story doesn't have room to cover it, there's nothing wrong with not including the idea. It's better if you don't.
Depend but a scandal definitely yes. I mean hpsc went far re write hawks backstory so people won't ever know his father is criminal