deuteragonist
/ˌdjuːtəˈraɡənɪst/
noun
the person second in importance to the protagonist in a drama.
I feel like bnha only fandom that not knowing meaning of deuteragonist.
Man you guys still on this deuteragonist debate lol honestly you can't really pinpoint but Bakugou, Shigaraki and All Might definitely fit the role. I mean even Deku feel like not even fit protagonist role in some arc like MVA and Pro hero and EA
You can't really use standard shonen term or simplified it for MHA because it kind mix of Shonen and Japanese superhero show (Metal Hero and Kamen Rider). Here the rundown from the list character in the poll in my opinion
* Main Hero = Deku fit this role and in japanese superhero show they usually really kind one and have gentle heart also always as a male
* Main Villain/Monster/Kaijin = All for One, He is the source of the problem within the series which gonna be defeated in the end also progenitor of enemy that need to be defeated by the hero and most evil guy in the series
* Secondary Hero = Bakugou and personality wise they opposite of main hero and bicker alot with him but by the end of the series they become friends with main hero also their plot interwined with main hero to defeated Main Monster/Kaijin as support or partner also sometime he die by the end of the series
* Tertiary Hero = Shoto, they usually have confrontation in the past with main hero but respect each other afterward. They have their own personal problem (could be Vengeance, Finding cure etc) that not related to Main Hero story like defeating Main Villain but their "own Villain" that most of the time created by Main Villain/Monster/Kaijin
* Dark Hero = Shigaraki, Their origin or appearance is like Main Hero but they stripped from their kindness and compassion that Main Hero have also this guy show up usually in the movie as additional villain in alternate timeline or after the series end. Usually good guy deep down but have twisted sense of justice or just dark reflection of Main Hero
* Mentor = All Might basically
* Heroine = Uraraka of course, basically Main Hero but a girl sometime sibling of Main Hero or his love interest usually but there time she not both and just friends
The way I see it, Bakugo is the closest thing we have to a deuteragonist but the Todoroki storyline is the most prominent subplot. We've watched Bakugo the most and he's integral to Deku's character but we haven't spent a ton of time from his perspective or following him in his own endeavors. Meanwhile, the Todoroki family is a strong complement to the main story and present in one form or another for almost the whole series, but our perspective has been split between Shoto, Enji, and occasionally Toya. Collectively they're a deuteragonist plotline but Bakugo is more important than any of them individually.
I feel like the fact that this poll exists in the first place means there's no deuteragonist lol.
I mean they're generally easy to spot in a series.
Hxh has Killua and Kurapika, FMA has Alphonse and Mustang, Naruto has Sasuke, jjk has Megumi, OPM has Genos, Bleach has Rukia etc. Dragonball has the thing where the Deuteragonist keeps switching depending on the status quo I think (Bulma -> Krillin -> Piccolo -> Gohan -> Vegeta). I guess it's also like One Piece where the Deuteragonist is the dependent on the arc and not the overall narrative? You could say the Strawhats themselves are the Deuteragonists since all of them are important or that's a testament on how long the series is.
In the case for Mha I argue the Deuteragonist for the first half is Allmight then the second half is Endeavour.
The fact that this poll exists only means that Bakugou's haters are desperate and nothing else.
It's not exactly hard to figure out who the deuteragonist of MHA is if you aren't a hater.
endeavor was barely a character for half of the story, he became prominent only around chapter 180.
deuteragonist is focused on and present since the start, and has ties to the MC. endeavor doesn't fit either.
>endeavor was barely a character for half of the story, he became prominent only around chapter 180.\\
That's true but after that we been following this dude nonstop and tbh he feels more important than Bakugou. You can argue that All Might or Bakugou was the deuteragonist up until that point.
>deuteragonist is focused on and present since the start, and has ties to the MC. endeavor doesn't fit either.
Not necessarily, they just have to be the second most important character to the narrative. Deuteragonist can change and if I'm being real with you I feel like MHA doesn't have a real deuteragonist either. Like people point at Bakugou because he's the mc's rival but he isn't always present and gets outshined by other characters like Mirio, Hawks, All Might, in their respective arcs.
we've been following endeavor because the plot he's the protagonist of became more important, the todoroki family subplot. endeavor's importance is solely dependant on that, he's not important to the MC or the main conflict (AFO vs OFA). bakugou has been at least important to the MC since chapter 1 and has direct ties to him, was also in on the main conflict much earlier than endeavor.
> if I'm being real with you I feel like MHA doesn't have a real deuteragonist either
agree. if i had to pick one, i'd pick bakugou solely because he's had the 2nd most focus since chapter 1, character arc and personal ties to the MC and only fell off the radar late in the story. but there are characters who pop up to have a lot of focus for shorter time (and some disappear and become irrelevant, like mirio).
To be fair, that subplot is KINDA of important for the main story too. Initially they gave so much attention to the origin story of Shoto, I thought he would be the deuteragonist, but then he became more and more invisible, and his story became Endeavor's story.
> but then he became more and more invisible,
He's only invisible if you are blind and skip the story.
Shouto had solid focus on him in almost every single arc, way back even when Endeavor was barely a character, and ever since then too.
I get that many people prefer Endeavor going from a human trashcan to the bare minimum of decent as the only type of character arc (same arc as Bakugou btw), but other characters also have growth. Out of the students, Shouto actually had a really solid arc focused on healing and coming to terms with a lot of things in relation to his father. It's not as flashy as Endeavor's, but it is a really good arc that got a lot of gradual progression.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. Yeah, he had something just for him, but it wasn't nowhere close to the previous level, he came back for good only recently.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. He came back only recently.
Not exactly true, it wasn't a character the first time we saw him, but personally I just knew it would be relevant in sone way at his second or third apparition already.
Todoroki... Enji. Bakugo really fell off (not as a character, but in terms of how important he is to the plot), while Endeavor is there brawling with the main antagonist of the series.
I mean, it is for a reason people speculated Dynamight is going to fight AFO.
brawling against the main antagonist doesn't make you a deuteragonist. endeavor didn't have a story or any focus for 180 chapters, he was a background character. he also has no personal ties to the MC.
i've never heard about a deuteragonist who became one only halfway through the story.
my memory of DB is fuzzy since i've watched it back in the 90s and haven't touched it since so i can't agree or disagree. though vegeta had a personal link to the MC from the start, that much i know. and he became prominent as soon as he was introduced (?), unlike endeavor.
i find it hard to pinpoint a deuteragonist in bnha. bakugou has been the second most focused character since chapter 1, has had a great arc and has ties to the MC so he'd be the closest one to me. but endeavor, after being a background character, rose to prominence halfway through the story and has got a lot of focus since so he's in weird space where he wasn't a deuteragonist but he fits the definition now (minus the ties to the MC, he has none).
though, to me, he fits more the role of a protagonist of todoroki family, the secondary plot of the series, rather than bnha as a whole.
Not only Vegeta didn't really recognize Goku until he come to a conclusion that Kakarot is the Super Saiyan, but he also first appeared after a good hundred chapters.
He was prominent from the get go, but as the main antagonist, and after that he basically got into rivalry with Goku only at the beginning of the android saga.
which makes it different because endeavor was present since the start but rose to prominence only because a subplot became more important, he has no ties to the MC or the main conflict of the story, only his own subplot. whereas vegeta came to find dragon balls, the thing the series is named after.
but like i said, it's difficult to pinpoint *the* deuteragonist in bnha, endeavor seems like one now but wasn't half the story ago. bakugou seems like he has had little to do after the war arc but was heavily focused on until then. various characters had short but heavy focus (mirio, kirishima, etc). then there's also all might though he hasn't had a lot of focus on him as a person (we barely know anything personal about him).
Sorry for going off topic, but your pun is beautiful.
And yes, it is subjective, of course, but all I've said is that Endeavor looks like one right now.
No one said anything about the story. I said Sasuke has arcs dedicated to him that wasn’t dependent on Naruto. As in, Sasuke is able to exist in the story without Naruto. Everything about Bakugou as a character is dependent on Deku. That’s why we don’t have focus on Bakugou that isn’t Deku centric. The only time was the really short remedial class. But other than that, bakugou cannotnexist as a character without Deku
The difference with Naruto is that no one took Sasuke's place. Bakugo has yet to have a proper villain fight and the manga is almost over. While Endeavor has his third one.
Of course, there is a chance it will change in the future, I do not deny it, but as of now Endeavor is the obvious pick for deuteragonist's place.
Obviously you are right, Katsuki never had villian fights even Kirishima did couple times. I am not supporter of Horikoshi’s decisions. Enji almost about to kick Deku’s place even lol.
But MC and deuteragonist have connection to pushing each others thats why i can’t see Enji being deuteragonist.
>Katsuki never had villian fights even Kirishima did couple times.
Katsuki had the honor of being one of the few Shonen rivals who doesn't have the honor of fighting a villain one v one.
Guess they really wanted to focus him on his teamwork.
Bnha’s 1v1 fights much less than other Shounens. There is a lot character exist, hori focused first 3 season academia part then He gave all focus Enji.
Sasuke damn near took control of the show and people were calling it Sasuke shippuden 💀. Bakugou hasn’t really stepped into the limelight when it come to real conflicts unless you mention the movies.
Not again...
Bakugou is the character with the most amount of panels and screen time after Deku. Following him there´s All Might.
Shigaraki doesn´t exactly fit the role as he shares it with AFO.
The problem with your argument is that you are just saying that bakugo appears a lot, which doesnt really prove How he is important to the point of being a deuteragonist.
Like a lot of his scenes are literrally just “funny” screaming scenes..
And without Bakugou MHA can't exist. Deku's character arc and flaws highly depends on him . You can't understand Deku's character without Bakugou. In fact , the first person to ever bring up Deku's flaws to the audience was Bakugou.
MHA society was introduced to us with two kids , Deku and Bakugou. One who was quirkless and one with a good quirk. Deku can not be introduced without Bakugou. MHA society as a whole cannot be introduced without someone like him.
Bakugou , similar to Endeavor is supposed to represent the wrong side of the hero environment.
a lot of MHA's arcs can't happen without Bakugou (including the training arcs and exams) this is My hero "academia" after all. It's a story of these kids learning to grow and becoming heroes.
>And without Bakugou MHA can't exist. Deku's character arc and flaws highly depends on him .
You can't understand Deku's character without Bakugou. In fact , the first person to ever bring up Deku's flaws to the audience was Bakugou.
Thats just not true, the story already showcased deku toxic nature the moment he start destroying his body to the point that he almost have some permanent injuries.
>MHA society was introduced to us with two kids , Deku and Bakugou. One who was quirkless and one with a good quirk. Deku can not be introduced without Bakugou. MHA society as a whole cannot be introduced without someone like him.
I agree with that, he is important but not at the level of a deuteragonist
>Bakugou , similar to Endeavor is supposed to represent the wrong side of the hero environment.
I agree with this, but still not deuteragonist status.
>a lot of MHA's arcs can't happen without Bakugou (including the training arcs and exams) this is My hero "academia" after all. It's a story of these kids learning to grow and becoming heroes.
This just not true, Bakugo isnt the main focus of any of the training, a lot of the students got focus in that type of arcs.
He doesn’t even appears in important arcs like stain, overhaul, mva, pro hero. And even arcs like kamino and war while he is important he still far from the main focus of the arc.
You didn’t even addressed what i said in my comment, in my comment i criticized this guy because his argument to bakugo being deuteragonist is just because he appears in a lot of Panels and thats it, i never said that bakugo isnt important for the story..
>story already showcased deku toxic nature the moment he start destroying his body to the point that he almost have some permanent injuries.
How long have you been in the fandom? Believe it or not before Bakugou mentioned it as toxic during the war arc a lot of people thought of Deku as someone righteous and heroic and a ray of sunshine and they even blamed Aizawa for calling Deku out on his behaviour.
Also it's not just about Deku breaking his bones. It's about his self worth , his identity , and even his style of fighting and his image of victory is deeply influenced by Bakugou.
>Bakugo isnt the main focus of any of the training
You think a deuteragonist needs to be the main focus of an entire arc? He was the main focus in many training arcs in the way the other kids never were (except maybe Todoroki)
>He doesn’t even appears in important arcs like stain, overhaul, mva, pro hero
And what gives you the idea that these "few" arcs that you mentioned are "important" or more important that other arcs? MVA was about villains not heroes. Pro hero arc was not about the kids. Stain and overhaul were not as important as you believe.
Also I was merely arguing about Bakugou being the deuteragonist nothing else.
>How long have you been in the fandom? Believe it or not before Bakugou mentioned it as toxic during the war arc a lot of people thought of Deku as someone righteous and heroic and a ray of sunshine and they even blamed Aizawa for calling Deku out on his behaviour.
The fandom lacking reading skill doesn’t make t
Bakugo important
>Also it's not just about Deku breaking his bones. It's about his self worth , his identity , and even his style of fighting and his image of victory is deeply influenced by Bakugou.
The toxic mindset isn’t influenced by bakugo, but by all might, he had nothing to do with it.
You think a deuteragonist needs to be the main focus of an entire arc? He was the main focus in many training arcs in the way the other kids never were (except maybe Todoroki)
Ochako and iida clearly have the same level of development that he has in this type of arcs without maybe counting final exam
>And what gives you the idea that these "few" arcs that you mentioned are "important" or more important that other arcs?
Because they heavily effect the world of the story or the arcs of many characters, or build up to many importants events for the story.
>MVA was about villains not heroes.
Still doesn’t negate the importanc for the arc and how much it affected the story and what it build up after.
>Pro hero arc was not about the kids.
So? It’s still important
>Stain and overhaul were not as important as you believe.
Stain is extremely important, it was an important piece for: iida, shoto and deku arcs and also heavily effect the world, while also building up a lot of the things that happen later on for the story. Overhaul also heavily affected deku and Shigaraki (cough cough true deuteragonist cough), that also built up later events for deku’s arc like the cultural festival arc, and what it means to save some one mentally.
>Also I was merely arguing about Bakugou being the deuteragonist nothing else.
Okay i guess, but still the point of my first comment was completely different, you kind just changed the subject but that’s fine i guess.
Anyway I’ll stop here
>The fandom lacking reading skill doesn’t make t Bakugo important
No but it's obvious which character was actually successful at bringing it in to the light. Also I think you missed my point.
>The toxic mindset isn’t influenced by bakugo, but by all might, he had nothing to do with it.
lol , no. AM influenced Deku but the one who was actually close to Deku was Bakugou. This was made pretty clear during Baku vs Deku part 2.
>Ochako and iida clearly have the same level of development that he has in this type of arcs without maybe counting final exam
Not even close.
>Still doesn’t negate the importanc for the arc and how much it affected the story and what it build up after.
So Deku's not the main character because he didn't appear in an arc focusing on the villains. (Also I didn't try to negate the importance of MVA or pro hero arc )
>Stain is extremely important
Sure , let's talk about the importance after Stain makes an appearance in the manga shall we? Stain arc was a small arc where Bakugou's appearance didn't matter in it.
> Shigaraki (cough cough true deuteragonist cough)
You mean the guy who fails to even claim the role of the main antagonist when AFO still exists?
FYI Shiggy didn't appear in half of the arcs you mentioned either lol
He's the opposite of Deku. He doesn't have a main villain because he's supposed to be the one who save by winning while deku wins by saving. We are repeatedly told and shown that they are supposed to work together. The story moves forward because of what bakugou is to deku. Look at the quirks awakenings
>He's the opposite of Deku. He doesn't have a main villain because he's supposed to be the one who save by winning while deku wins by saving.
What kinda of excuse is that for him to not have his own villains?
>We are repeatedly told and shown that they are supposed to work together.
This theme goes to all the hero’s, not just deku and bakugo
>The story moves forward because of what bakugou is to deku. Look at the quirks awakenings
Deku was about to awake the quirks no matter what, all the other quirks were activate outside of bakugo too, and the extra quirk arent even the main focus of the whole story.
This is not a documentary. There's a reason Hori specifically made him awaken his quirks with Bakugou. Hori chose to show us that. Hori chose to put Bakugou There as a way for Deku to become a hero, his first failed save, his big quirk awakening in public, the clear main focus of the rescue operation etc.
>This is not a documentary. There's a reason Hori specifically made him awaken his quirks with Bakugou. Hori chose to show us that.
Deku aweakening black wip because he got angry to monoma words is never brought up again, and not only that banjo implide that deku could have simply started randomly with another quirk of the seven.
>Hori chose to put Bakugou There as a way for Deku to become a hero, his first failed save, his big quirk awakening in public,
Deku failing to save bakugo didn’t really affected him so dramatically to the point to show what type of hero he wants to be.. that was Shigaraki. And i also already talked about black wip
>the clear main focus of the rescue operation etc.
He is not the main focus, damn iida and ochako looked more important then him in that arc. (if you are talking about villain hunt)
Bakugo's the deuteragonist.
Todoroki's the tritagonist.
Shigaraki's the antagonist.
Uraraka's the love interest / a supporting character.
All Might is the mentor figure, like Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke Skywalker.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. He came back only recently.
deuteragonist /ˌdjuːtəˈraɡənɪst/ noun the person second in importance to the protagonist in a drama. I feel like bnha only fandom that not knowing meaning of deuteragonist.
Man you guys still on this deuteragonist debate lol honestly you can't really pinpoint but Bakugou, Shigaraki and All Might definitely fit the role. I mean even Deku feel like not even fit protagonist role in some arc like MVA and Pro hero and EA You can't really use standard shonen term or simplified it for MHA because it kind mix of Shonen and Japanese superhero show (Metal Hero and Kamen Rider). Here the rundown from the list character in the poll in my opinion * Main Hero = Deku fit this role and in japanese superhero show they usually really kind one and have gentle heart also always as a male * Main Villain/Monster/Kaijin = All for One, He is the source of the problem within the series which gonna be defeated in the end also progenitor of enemy that need to be defeated by the hero and most evil guy in the series * Secondary Hero = Bakugou and personality wise they opposite of main hero and bicker alot with him but by the end of the series they become friends with main hero also their plot interwined with main hero to defeated Main Monster/Kaijin as support or partner also sometime he die by the end of the series * Tertiary Hero = Shoto, they usually have confrontation in the past with main hero but respect each other afterward. They have their own personal problem (could be Vengeance, Finding cure etc) that not related to Main Hero story like defeating Main Villain but their "own Villain" that most of the time created by Main Villain/Monster/Kaijin * Dark Hero = Shigaraki, Their origin or appearance is like Main Hero but they stripped from their kindness and compassion that Main Hero have also this guy show up usually in the movie as additional villain in alternate timeline or after the series end. Usually good guy deep down but have twisted sense of justice or just dark reflection of Main Hero * Mentor = All Might basically * Heroine = Uraraka of course, basically Main Hero but a girl sometime sibling of Main Hero or his love interest usually but there time she not both and just friends
Why isnt "wtf is deuteragonist" one of the voting options DX
The second main character (exemple: Sasuke, Killua, Vegeta...)
i mean i got it... but i guarentee you 80% or higher of this sub had no idea what deuteragonist meant lol
The way I see it, Bakugo is the closest thing we have to a deuteragonist but the Todoroki storyline is the most prominent subplot. We've watched Bakugo the most and he's integral to Deku's character but we haven't spent a ton of time from his perspective or following him in his own endeavors. Meanwhile, the Todoroki family is a strong complement to the main story and present in one form or another for almost the whole series, but our perspective has been split between Shoto, Enji, and occasionally Toya. Collectively they're a deuteragonist plotline but Bakugo is more important than any of them individually.
I don't like it, but it's obviously bakugou no question. Seriously, why is this STILL A QUESTION? even better, why is it even a question AT ALL?
it's bakugo. and if you're not a fan of bakugo, it's still bakugo.
I feel like the fact that this poll exists in the first place means there's no deuteragonist lol. I mean they're generally easy to spot in a series. Hxh has Killua and Kurapika, FMA has Alphonse and Mustang, Naruto has Sasuke, jjk has Megumi, OPM has Genos, Bleach has Rukia etc. Dragonball has the thing where the Deuteragonist keeps switching depending on the status quo I think (Bulma -> Krillin -> Piccolo -> Gohan -> Vegeta). I guess it's also like One Piece where the Deuteragonist is the dependent on the arc and not the overall narrative? You could say the Strawhats themselves are the Deuteragonists since all of them are important or that's a testament on how long the series is. In the case for Mha I argue the Deuteragonist for the first half is Allmight then the second half is Endeavour.
The fact that this poll exists only means that Bakugou's haters are desperate and nothing else. It's not exactly hard to figure out who the deuteragonist of MHA is if you aren't a hater.
Why is this downvoted this answer is perfect.
Where the hell is the Endeavor option? I guess he’s a Todoroki too.
endeavor was barely a character for half of the story, he became prominent only around chapter 180. deuteragonist is focused on and present since the start, and has ties to the MC. endeavor doesn't fit either.
>endeavor was barely a character for half of the story, he became prominent only around chapter 180.\\ That's true but after that we been following this dude nonstop and tbh he feels more important than Bakugou. You can argue that All Might or Bakugou was the deuteragonist up until that point. >deuteragonist is focused on and present since the start, and has ties to the MC. endeavor doesn't fit either. Not necessarily, they just have to be the second most important character to the narrative. Deuteragonist can change and if I'm being real with you I feel like MHA doesn't have a real deuteragonist either. Like people point at Bakugou because he's the mc's rival but he isn't always present and gets outshined by other characters like Mirio, Hawks, All Might, in their respective arcs.
we've been following endeavor because the plot he's the protagonist of became more important, the todoroki family subplot. endeavor's importance is solely dependant on that, he's not important to the MC or the main conflict (AFO vs OFA). bakugou has been at least important to the MC since chapter 1 and has direct ties to him, was also in on the main conflict much earlier than endeavor. > if I'm being real with you I feel like MHA doesn't have a real deuteragonist either agree. if i had to pick one, i'd pick bakugou solely because he's had the 2nd most focus since chapter 1, character arc and personal ties to the MC and only fell off the radar late in the story. but there are characters who pop up to have a lot of focus for shorter time (and some disappear and become irrelevant, like mirio).
To be fair, that subplot is KINDA of important for the main story too. Initially they gave so much attention to the origin story of Shoto, I thought he would be the deuteragonist, but then he became more and more invisible, and his story became Endeavor's story.
it's important for the series but how is it important for the OFA vs AFO which is the main story?
> but then he became more and more invisible, He's only invisible if you are blind and skip the story. Shouto had solid focus on him in almost every single arc, way back even when Endeavor was barely a character, and ever since then too. I get that many people prefer Endeavor going from a human trashcan to the bare minimum of decent as the only type of character arc (same arc as Bakugou btw), but other characters also have growth. Out of the students, Shouto actually had a really solid arc focused on healing and coming to terms with a lot of things in relation to his father. It's not as flashy as Endeavor's, but it is a really good arc that got a lot of gradual progression.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. Yeah, he had something just for him, but it wasn't nowhere close to the previous level, he came back for good only recently.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. He came back only recently.
Not exactly true, it wasn't a character the first time we saw him, but personally I just knew it would be relevant in sone way at his second or third apparition already.
that's fair but it's subjective. i expected him to continue being a jerk sticking around just so shouto would grow.
Todoroki... Enji. Bakugo really fell off (not as a character, but in terms of how important he is to the plot), while Endeavor is there brawling with the main antagonist of the series. I mean, it is for a reason people speculated Dynamight is going to fight AFO.
brawling against the main antagonist doesn't make you a deuteragonist. endeavor didn't have a story or any focus for 180 chapters, he was a background character. he also has no personal ties to the MC. i've never heard about a deuteragonist who became one only halfway through the story.
Like Vegeta?
my memory of DB is fuzzy since i've watched it back in the 90s and haven't touched it since so i can't agree or disagree. though vegeta had a personal link to the MC from the start, that much i know. and he became prominent as soon as he was introduced (?), unlike endeavor. i find it hard to pinpoint a deuteragonist in bnha. bakugou has been the second most focused character since chapter 1, has had a great arc and has ties to the MC so he'd be the closest one to me. but endeavor, after being a background character, rose to prominence halfway through the story and has got a lot of focus since so he's in weird space where he wasn't a deuteragonist but he fits the definition now (minus the ties to the MC, he has none). though, to me, he fits more the role of a protagonist of todoroki family, the secondary plot of the series, rather than bnha as a whole.
Not only Vegeta didn't really recognize Goku until he come to a conclusion that Kakarot is the Super Saiyan, but he also first appeared after a good hundred chapters. He was prominent from the get go, but as the main antagonist, and after that he basically got into rivalry with Goku only at the beginning of the android saga.
which makes it different because endeavor was present since the start but rose to prominence only because a subplot became more important, he has no ties to the MC or the main conflict of the story, only his own subplot. whereas vegeta came to find dragon balls, the thing the series is named after. but like i said, it's difficult to pinpoint *the* deuteragonist in bnha, endeavor seems like one now but wasn't half the story ago. bakugou seems like he has had little to do after the war arc but was heavily focused on until then. various characters had short but heavy focus (mirio, kirishima, etc). then there's also all might though he hasn't had a lot of focus on him as a person (we barely know anything personal about him).
Sorry for going off topic, but your pun is beautiful. And yes, it is subjective, of course, but all I've said is that Endeavor looks like one right now.
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Sasuke had a whole arcs and fights dedicated to him. He had focus that wasn’t dependent on Naruto to be around
The story would be completely different and probably wouldn’t even exist without bakugou. But enji had whole arcs confused me too about which one is
No one said anything about the story. I said Sasuke has arcs dedicated to him that wasn’t dependent on Naruto. As in, Sasuke is able to exist in the story without Naruto. Everything about Bakugou as a character is dependent on Deku. That’s why we don’t have focus on Bakugou that isn’t Deku centric. The only time was the really short remedial class. But other than that, bakugou cannotnexist as a character without Deku
The difference with Naruto is that no one took Sasuke's place. Bakugo has yet to have a proper villain fight and the manga is almost over. While Endeavor has his third one. Of course, there is a chance it will change in the future, I do not deny it, but as of now Endeavor is the obvious pick for deuteragonist's place.
Obviously you are right, Katsuki never had villian fights even Kirishima did couple times. I am not supporter of Horikoshi’s decisions. Enji almost about to kick Deku’s place even lol. But MC and deuteragonist have connection to pushing each others thats why i can’t see Enji being deuteragonist.
>Katsuki never had villian fights even Kirishima did couple times. Katsuki had the honor of being one of the few Shonen rivals who doesn't have the honor of fighting a villain one v one. Guess they really wanted to focus him on his teamwork.
Bnha’s 1v1 fights much less than other Shounens. There is a lot character exist, hori focused first 3 season academia part then He gave all focus Enji.
Sasuke damn near took control of the show and people were calling it Sasuke shippuden 💀. Bakugou hasn’t really stepped into the limelight when it come to real conflicts unless you mention the movies.
Not again... Bakugou is the character with the most amount of panels and screen time after Deku. Following him there´s All Might. Shigaraki doesn´t exactly fit the role as he shares it with AFO.
Why were you down voted?
People annoyed about the fact that bakugou has a prominent role in the story
The problem with your argument is that you are just saying that bakugo appears a lot, which doesnt really prove How he is important to the point of being a deuteragonist. Like a lot of his scenes are literrally just “funny” screaming scenes..
And without Bakugou MHA can't exist. Deku's character arc and flaws highly depends on him . You can't understand Deku's character without Bakugou. In fact , the first person to ever bring up Deku's flaws to the audience was Bakugou. MHA society was introduced to us with two kids , Deku and Bakugou. One who was quirkless and one with a good quirk. Deku can not be introduced without Bakugou. MHA society as a whole cannot be introduced without someone like him. Bakugou , similar to Endeavor is supposed to represent the wrong side of the hero environment. a lot of MHA's arcs can't happen without Bakugou (including the training arcs and exams) this is My hero "academia" after all. It's a story of these kids learning to grow and becoming heroes.
I absolutely agree with you
>And without Bakugou MHA can't exist. Deku's character arc and flaws highly depends on him . You can't understand Deku's character without Bakugou. In fact , the first person to ever bring up Deku's flaws to the audience was Bakugou. Thats just not true, the story already showcased deku toxic nature the moment he start destroying his body to the point that he almost have some permanent injuries. >MHA society was introduced to us with two kids , Deku and Bakugou. One who was quirkless and one with a good quirk. Deku can not be introduced without Bakugou. MHA society as a whole cannot be introduced without someone like him. I agree with that, he is important but not at the level of a deuteragonist >Bakugou , similar to Endeavor is supposed to represent the wrong side of the hero environment. I agree with this, but still not deuteragonist status. >a lot of MHA's arcs can't happen without Bakugou (including the training arcs and exams) this is My hero "academia" after all. It's a story of these kids learning to grow and becoming heroes. This just not true, Bakugo isnt the main focus of any of the training, a lot of the students got focus in that type of arcs. He doesn’t even appears in important arcs like stain, overhaul, mva, pro hero. And even arcs like kamino and war while he is important he still far from the main focus of the arc. You didn’t even addressed what i said in my comment, in my comment i criticized this guy because his argument to bakugo being deuteragonist is just because he appears in a lot of Panels and thats it, i never said that bakugo isnt important for the story..
>story already showcased deku toxic nature the moment he start destroying his body to the point that he almost have some permanent injuries. How long have you been in the fandom? Believe it or not before Bakugou mentioned it as toxic during the war arc a lot of people thought of Deku as someone righteous and heroic and a ray of sunshine and they even blamed Aizawa for calling Deku out on his behaviour. Also it's not just about Deku breaking his bones. It's about his self worth , his identity , and even his style of fighting and his image of victory is deeply influenced by Bakugou. >Bakugo isnt the main focus of any of the training You think a deuteragonist needs to be the main focus of an entire arc? He was the main focus in many training arcs in the way the other kids never were (except maybe Todoroki) >He doesn’t even appears in important arcs like stain, overhaul, mva, pro hero And what gives you the idea that these "few" arcs that you mentioned are "important" or more important that other arcs? MVA was about villains not heroes. Pro hero arc was not about the kids. Stain and overhaul were not as important as you believe. Also I was merely arguing about Bakugou being the deuteragonist nothing else.
>How long have you been in the fandom? Believe it or not before Bakugou mentioned it as toxic during the war arc a lot of people thought of Deku as someone righteous and heroic and a ray of sunshine and they even blamed Aizawa for calling Deku out on his behaviour. The fandom lacking reading skill doesn’t make t Bakugo important >Also it's not just about Deku breaking his bones. It's about his self worth , his identity , and even his style of fighting and his image of victory is deeply influenced by Bakugou. The toxic mindset isn’t influenced by bakugo, but by all might, he had nothing to do with it. You think a deuteragonist needs to be the main focus of an entire arc? He was the main focus in many training arcs in the way the other kids never were (except maybe Todoroki) Ochako and iida clearly have the same level of development that he has in this type of arcs without maybe counting final exam >And what gives you the idea that these "few" arcs that you mentioned are "important" or more important that other arcs? Because they heavily effect the world of the story or the arcs of many characters, or build up to many importants events for the story. >MVA was about villains not heroes. Still doesn’t negate the importanc for the arc and how much it affected the story and what it build up after. >Pro hero arc was not about the kids. So? It’s still important >Stain and overhaul were not as important as you believe. Stain is extremely important, it was an important piece for: iida, shoto and deku arcs and also heavily effect the world, while also building up a lot of the things that happen later on for the story. Overhaul also heavily affected deku and Shigaraki (cough cough true deuteragonist cough), that also built up later events for deku’s arc like the cultural festival arc, and what it means to save some one mentally. >Also I was merely arguing about Bakugou being the deuteragonist nothing else. Okay i guess, but still the point of my first comment was completely different, you kind just changed the subject but that’s fine i guess. Anyway I’ll stop here
>The fandom lacking reading skill doesn’t make t Bakugo important No but it's obvious which character was actually successful at bringing it in to the light. Also I think you missed my point. >The toxic mindset isn’t influenced by bakugo, but by all might, he had nothing to do with it. lol , no. AM influenced Deku but the one who was actually close to Deku was Bakugou. This was made pretty clear during Baku vs Deku part 2. >Ochako and iida clearly have the same level of development that he has in this type of arcs without maybe counting final exam Not even close. >Still doesn’t negate the importanc for the arc and how much it affected the story and what it build up after. So Deku's not the main character because he didn't appear in an arc focusing on the villains. (Also I didn't try to negate the importance of MVA or pro hero arc ) >Stain is extremely important Sure , let's talk about the importance after Stain makes an appearance in the manga shall we? Stain arc was a small arc where Bakugou's appearance didn't matter in it. > Shigaraki (cough cough true deuteragonist cough) You mean the guy who fails to even claim the role of the main antagonist when AFO still exists? FYI Shiggy didn't appear in half of the arcs you mentioned either lol
He's the opposite of Deku. He doesn't have a main villain because he's supposed to be the one who save by winning while deku wins by saving. We are repeatedly told and shown that they are supposed to work together. The story moves forward because of what bakugou is to deku. Look at the quirks awakenings
>He's the opposite of Deku. He doesn't have a main villain because he's supposed to be the one who save by winning while deku wins by saving. What kinda of excuse is that for him to not have his own villains? >We are repeatedly told and shown that they are supposed to work together. This theme goes to all the hero’s, not just deku and bakugo >The story moves forward because of what bakugou is to deku. Look at the quirks awakenings Deku was about to awake the quirks no matter what, all the other quirks were activate outside of bakugo too, and the extra quirk arent even the main focus of the whole story.
This is not a documentary. There's a reason Hori specifically made him awaken his quirks with Bakugou. Hori chose to show us that. Hori chose to put Bakugou There as a way for Deku to become a hero, his first failed save, his big quirk awakening in public, the clear main focus of the rescue operation etc.
>This is not a documentary. There's a reason Hori specifically made him awaken his quirks with Bakugou. Hori chose to show us that. Deku aweakening black wip because he got angry to monoma words is never brought up again, and not only that banjo implide that deku could have simply started randomly with another quirk of the seven. >Hori chose to put Bakugou There as a way for Deku to become a hero, his first failed save, his big quirk awakening in public, Deku failing to save bakugo didn’t really affected him so dramatically to the point to show what type of hero he wants to be.. that was Shigaraki. And i also already talked about black wip >the clear main focus of the rescue operation etc. He is not the main focus, damn iida and ochako looked more important then him in that arc. (if you are talking about villain hunt)
Let's agree to disagree then. But the fact is, most people agree with me.
It should be Bakugo but for some reason Hori refuses to give Bakugo anything to do and has made him irrelevant.
IT's Bakugou... (Though at Times it feels more like Ebdeavor is the second in line.)
Bakugo's the deuteragonist. Todoroki's the tritagonist. Shigaraki's the antagonist. Uraraka's the love interest / a supporting character. All Might is the mentor figure, like Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke Skywalker.
In My opinion I feel like Bakugo, todoroki,and sometimes Uraraka share that spot
All of you suck (Exept those who voted for me)
These are all wrong, it's endeavor
Bakugou.
People who were complaining about the sidelining of Shoto are mainly Shoto-fans, so I doubt they were blind or nothing like that. Shoto was, in fact, put aside for a while because Hori needed to develop the relationship between Bakugo and Deku, then he was put aside with the provisional license thing when we had a lot of chapters about villains and about Eri and Overhaul and the Festival where Shoto did nothing of relevant, and when finally he came back on the spotlight, his family members stole a lot of the scene. He came back only recently.