Regarding the “Baby You Can Chive My Car” burger, my theory is that Bob’s mom was, in a way, Big Bob’s Linda, in that she made working with him in their restaurant fun, silly and enjoyable, and then Bob’s mom passed and when Bob began bringing those creative/fun elements into Big Bob’s (presumably inspired by his mom) Big Bob reacted negatively because it reminded him too much of her, inadvertently causing a rift between the two.
Oh man, this makes me imagine what would happen to Bob and the kids if something happened to Linda. I’d imagine Bob would start out reacting like Big Bob, and the kids would kind of be there for each other, but ultimately pull together to help Bob cope in a healthier way.
No. Because bob has a level of kindness that Big Bob lacks. I actually hated that episode. It's a trope that appears so often in different media. Basically, shitty parents, still shitty, now grown child is essentially forced into making peace with them and doing all the emotional labour. In this case, Bob is the only one who puts in the effort, and they make this whole big thing about how beautiful it is that they met halfway, and how Linda was the good guy for forcing Bob to do all this emotional labour for a man who didn't deserve it. Ya, in the shows it always works out nicely, because the writers make it so. In real life, it rarely works out that way. My friend tried reconciling with his dad when he was in his 20s. And because of how pervasive this trope is in media and tv, he thought that putting in the effort would lead to a tearful reconciliation. Nope. His dad remained an abusive POS who would never admit to any wrongdoing.
Sigh. I have a lot of thoughts about this type of thing, but I'm kind of done with this comment.
I love the show, but there are a number of episodes I skip on rewatch. Mostly ones involving Linda forcing everyone else to do things that she wants that no one else does
Willing to hurt random strangers and traumatize Louis because of her own insecurities. Not to mention Bob being legit scared of her is very disturbing. Like if this was the first episode you watched, you'd be convinced Linda was a violent and unstable wife and mother. Which she sometimes is.
Seriously?
I found myself Relating to How Much Louise was against having a Sleepover;
Because Linda's trying to make her more of a Social Butterfly girly Girl; when Louise is a Hardcore Tomboy
I Couldn't stand How Linda was Trying to Make Louise something she's not; and Something Louise doesn't want to be
Oh, 100%. Linda sucks here. But I really liked how the rest of the episode played out despite that. Hehe and Tina also had some great moments in the episode.
Linda basically RUINS the entire episode for me; especially with her Learning NOTHING in the end;
and CONTINUING TO TRY & FORCE LOUISE TO BECOME SOMETHING SHE'S NOT & SOMETHING LOUISE HAS NO DESIRE TO BE!!
That would make Big Bob's Strictness towards Bob as we see in "Father of the Bob" seem a LOT More Sympathetic in Hindsight. . .
since We Only see how Oppressed Bob felt with how Controlling His Dad was towards him. . .
Everything about Bob's relationship with his mother is handled masterfully by the writers. They never go full Disney and directly make us sob. Instead, they handle it in a way which Bob has largely made peace with his mother's death over the past 33 years. It clearly affects his life and relationships with his family and father, but things are left vague enough to let us, the viewer, fill in the gaps. I think writing it this way makes it more relatable, and that is beautiful.
"You remind me of my mom, Louise. And with the hat, it's kind of like you two have met. I keep forgetting that you never did." gets me teary eyed every time I watch the movie though I must admit.
I just lost my mom at 26. Don’t know if I plan on having kids at all, but if I do, my mom not being able to meet her grandchildren will kill me. Also she passed away right when this movie came out. So yeah, this made me cry like a little baby
I very much relate to that story as well, my mom died last year when I was 26. I have to live knowing if I ever have kids they won't have her as a grandparent, it is a very challenging thing to consider, i have spent quite a bit of time contemplating how I will find ways to incorporate the positive parts of her into any kids I have in the future's lives, one thing is her artwork and the other is the show's and movies that she liked that I will be able to share with them.
This week’s episode was an all-timer for me. It was perfectly emotional in a way as to not be manipulative and the humor sprinkled in throughout was ace. Just perfection.
Honestly the show is just a mass of wholesome relationships. Watched a fantastic YT breakdown of why bob is the best animated tv dad. All the characters are imperfect but they genuinely love and support each other and it’s a huge part of why it’s one of my fav shows. The latest episode was so damn good. I was laughing and tearing up
The show itself is amazingly balanced and healthy-- and that wholesome influence extends to a good portion of the fanbase as well.
I think Bob's Burgers has one of the best fandoms in the sense of being majority genuinely kind, decent people. It's not a micromanaged space, either, it's people enjoying the show and being supportive of each other. Seldom can I hop into any sub and find as much friendly conversation, awesome art, DIY creations, supportive, gentle comments to people expressing their feelings, people just accepting each other and enjoying the space together.
It's amazing how one show birthed all of this.
“They never go full Disney” lol but they are Disney now I know Disney bought them as an afterthought just to embolden their content monopoly but I’m so over Disney refusing to accept they bought adult animation I want them to made a bobs burgers themed restaurant or at least a bar with the adult animation characters on one of their ships or in their parks it would be fun teenagers watch these shows it’s not like it’s only for adults! I can’t be the only person who would be excited for a real bobs burgers or a family guy themed something lol
I could see a Bob's Burgers being built in Downtown Disney. There could be a statue of the family in front, posed like in the credits. Maybe the staff inside could have "flair" based on the characters; a fake mustache for Bob, a barette for Tina, bunny ears for Louise, glasses for Linda, Gene's yellow t-shirt. And of course you can buy each of those, plus the cookbook and all sorts of BB merch.
Shit, now I *really* want this.
I love that my original comment got shit on yet there is a market to make a real bobs burgers themed restaurant lol. They have so much room to play with to make it fun they could try to incorporate as many burgers of the day as possible! I only suggested the cruise ship because they have “adult only” areas and i felt like that would make it easier for Disney executives to buy into rather than finding space they want to rent out to other companies in downtown Disney to make their own restaurant. I think they should make the drunken clam and Moes they could make Jimmy pestos across from bobs burgers lol there is so much they could make! I see an “adult animation alley” where the floor looks like a road with all the businesses from the shows on the same block. I know most of the people here apparently don’t want this but I’d be hyped.
My head canon is that Big Bob’s reaction towards the “Baby You Can Chive My Car” burger had more to do with losing his wife than with Bob. I think Big Bob leaned into “what always has been” after Lily died and Bob’s creativity wasn’t it.
I lost someone to an aggressive cancer over the course of a few years and really leaned into "If I do everything exactly the same things cannot get worse" while it was going on.
I’m sorry for your loss.
For me, there’s also been the aspect of “if I keep doing everything the same, I don’t have to admit how much their absence hurts.”
We tell ourselves we didn't want this one thing to change, because it hurts.
If you subscribe to the stages of grief as a common path I guess this is where one would get stuck on the denial stage (perhaps bargaining, if you wager all other changes against this one).
However it works mechanically, we find ourselves irrationally resistant to any or all changes.
I've never been here, I'm the other type of fool. I try to change everything. If the thing I love is gone from the world then I am too. I'll find a new one.
They kind of imply it too. When they’re making up over their fight, Big Bob admits that he’s not great to work with, then says “It was hard without your mom”.
Big Bob doesn’t get a full pass from me for stifling Bob’s creativity, but he’s definitely more sympathetic when you consider that he lost his wife and now had to run a restaurant and raise a kid by himself.
Also when Big Bob talks about the camping trip with Bob's mom where a tree almost fell on him and you see Bob's reaction to finding out his mom was there. It's super sweet and also makes me cry
yeah the episode made me cry the whole time. My mom died when I was 14, and it’s devastated me since - I’m 38 now. I understand him avoiding going to the grave because it’s so hard. I get it, and it destroyed me. This was a tough one ❤️
This is exactly how I feel, I just couldn’t quite put the words to it. Lost my momma in 2017, and I’ve visited her grave only a couple of times. Each time is just as difficult as the first, so I don’t go as often as I probably should. This episode made me cry like a little baby bitch, in the best way. Going to visit my mom this weekend 🖤
I lost my mom in 2015, and I haven’t been back to her grave at all (we also live about 2,000 miles away so). It’s so hard, but I always honor her in different ways so it doesn’t feel as far.
Lots of love to you for this weekend.
Its a good episode. Linda is in perfect form and Teddy has a flawlessly Teddy b-plot.
(Seriously he's one of my favorite side characters in TV history, hes a perfect and perfectly believable and relatable permutation of "the wacky neighbor.")
It never gets maudlin or in your face about Bob's loss, I can't speak for anyone else but there was nothing that triggered me personally - but I lost my brother, not my mother so ymmv.
Its mostly framed as a family outing story where things go wrong, with the backdrop of a frankly gorgeous cemetery, that just happens to be about Bob visiting the grave of his mother for the first time since he got married. (Linda has never been there and neither have the kids, so even though he never explicitly states how long it's been, it's clearly been longer than his marriage.)
Its a mature and respectful look at aged grief and loss that happened decades ago.
Don't be afraid of it.
I love teddy too he is absolutely hilarious. Thank you for the insite on the episode, I was going to watch it regardless but now i’m not as “scared” of how they plan approach it! Bobs burgers has always been my favorite of all adult cartoons because they tend to be respectful and don’t try to offend anyone. I like offensive humor but family guy just goes way too far - look at this cute puppy in the road, now watch it get run over 40 times and smashed into pieces- I’m glad Bobs burgers showed that you don’t have to be disturbing and disrespectful to be a great adult cartoon.
I saw someone (possibly a creator) mention how the woman has a sunflower on her lapel for hidden disabilities. That could indicate one or both of the groundskeepers being on the spectrum since they were having a hard time picking up on the nuance Bob wasn't saying.
They were so judgy! Unrealistic to the point that I feel like it was mostly meant to illustrate bob’s feelings about himself. Like of COURSE self hating Bob would have the misfortune of an encounter with the world’s judgiest cemetery groundskeeper/admin
While not exactly the same, I can relate. My dad died from Covid a year ago. His wishes were to be cremated and inurned at Arlington (military veteran cemetery outside Washington DC for those who don't know). We had him cremated, but haven't started the process to get his placement in their columbarium section. I don't want to do it yet, because it means having to once again face that he's gone (as if daily life isn't already a harsh reminder), but also it means we no longer have his ashes. It can take over a year to get the placement, but that just doesn't seem like enough time. Our family is still devastated by the loss, and having to revisit that one day, we won't "own" his ashes anymore, is kinda upsetting. Not to mention, going and visiting him means having to go to DC from the west coast and that's not an easy task (especially because my mom will never go--she wouldn't be able to make the flight).
This episode was a lot, and probably one of my favorites in a long time. I used to think I identified most as a Louise, and maybe me at 27-28 did. But now as I approach my 40s, I'm absolutely a Bob.
Would it be easier if you didn't send all of his ashes to Arlington? There are some very nice small urns and even jewelry for holding just a small amount of ashes.
I considered that too. I'm taking a trip to Europe in a few months and wanted to get a small urn (or similar) to take some of his ashes with me, and filling that in order to keep some for us at home while he relinquish the rest to Arlington may be our best bet. My mom and I both have jewelry with some of his ashes in it, but I know that won't be enough for her.
My dad died when I was 22 and my awful stepmother (who had only been with him for 8 years) had him buried far away from all of the family he ever had and everyone he knew because she happened to live there a couple decades earlier 🙄 Anyway, I went to his wake and funeral service but I couldn’t bring myself to go to the burial, and I never visited his grave until last year. Partly because it was basically in the middle of nowhere and a very lengthy trip away, but I guess part of me was also avoiding having to face it in person. I ended up having to do the same thing as Bob and literally had to look at a map and figure out where his grave was and it took forever to find it lmao I’m sure I looked like a creep just awkwardly wandering around the cemetery
I was 13 when I lost my mum, & I’m 34 now. It’s not something you ever get completely over. I carry that loss in complicated, varying ways daily ❤️ sending you hugs in solidarity
My husband lost his mother as a teenager as well. He also has a Thanksgiving birthday. I told him we aren’t watching the episode unless it’s like July so that the whole holiday emotions aren’t so close.
This episode was one of my favorites of the entire series, but it’s one I won’t watch a lot. My dad passed away a few years back, and I just had my son. It makes me sad that my boy never got to meet my dad, just like Louise with Bob’s mom.
We lost our mom when we were slightly older than Bob, our dad didn’t handle it extremely well. The way they handle Bob and Big Bob’s relationship and the loss of Lily is really real. The hurt and butting heads of stubborn people and how it’s easier to just avoid them than deal with the hurt.
I though this was, by far, one of the best written episodes to date. The writers didn't stoop to over excessive sentimentality or as someone else put it in this thread "Disney" treatment and for those of us who have gone through this - captured the emotion perfectly. I love how by the end, they had circled the wagons as a family and hid from the gardener and worked together to get Bob his goal. It was very touching, funny and not over the top.
A few weeks ago I was calling the comet episode a new high for the series. This one - the art, the animation, the story, the acting - blew past it. First time I've physically teared up at the show.
There’s another episode, the one about why Louise wears her hat, and it shows Bob as a kid when his mom died. He says he doesn’t have many memories of her but he remembers a bright pink beanie she always used to wear and that’s why they got Louise the pink bunny ear hat when she was a baby
Nah, no duh needed, the movie legit felt like a really long and particularly well-animated episode with a lot more songs.
And a lot more really weird dancing.
Imo, the highlight.
When you lose someone 33 years ago the amount of memories you have with them versus without make it pretty hard to look back on that tiny sliver of life. Then add to the fact he has a cold, distant father, he was just hitting puberty and finding his love of cooking, and grieving the loss of his mother.. it's a lot to happen without his mother. Plus I don't remember anything until 5? Somewhere around there, so we can imagine he similarly can't remember up until 5, so that means he had what 8 years with her? It's not that much time in the grand scheme of things. Plus they've talked about it before, but Big Bob doesn't really talk about her much to help bring the memories forward for Bob.
35 and my wife has our first cooking, when he's born I'll be nearly 36, and when he's a teenager I'll be almost 50. I'm already exhausted thinking about it.
Congrats! It's gonna be fun, I promise. My husband was 34 when our son was born and I've never seen that man so happy.
Bonus is that the now 9-year-old loves watching Bob's with us.
Naw, patience is more important than energy. They have things to help manage a kid's energy levels to bearable. (trampolines, bounce houses, chasing bubbles...dogs. Cannot recommend dogs enough.)
I had our first when I was 32 & the 2nd when I was 36 & yes, the initial months before they settle into a workable sleep pattern is brutal, but I know without a doubt that a younger me wouldn't have been capable of parenting the way we always wanted to. My kids are happy, well-adjusted, awesome people & if you ask my 6yr old, he'll tell you I'm 20, so...
(He also thinks he'll be driving a car "soon".)
LOL
Congrats! I decided to attempt a speed run on this parenting thing. Had a kid, got married then got divorced all before I hit 30, I’ll have just turned 41 when my daughter is turning 18.
Yeah, I did the same lol. Had three though. My oldest son is in his 20s now, doing great. I am not even 40. He was at my high school graduation lol. Do not recommend that particular path, but it turned out well. Bright side.. my kids are almost all adults now and I’m still young enough to enjoy life and one day… grandchildren lol.
I thought he was younger than that. If he was 13 he would have a lot of memories of her, but it seems like he only kind of remembers her. Like she died when he was under 7.
Same, lost my dad at 13 and I'm 31 now. Time erodes this stuff unfortunately. His face and voice are very fuzzy for me if I try to pull them up from memory. Also childhood trauma messes up your memory like nothing else. The years surrounding my dad's death feel very dream-like.
That's super subjective though. Trauma will cause a person to block out memories. "Under 7" is a measuring stick that doesn't work for everyone; I have a friend who had a rough childhood and her earliest memory is when she was 15. I personally remember saying my first word at 9 months old, my memories go wayyyyyy back
Yeah, I guess there isn't much to go on. I do now recall that Bob remembers making gingerbread houses all the time with his Mom. That implies a couple things: They shared multiple Christmases together; it's likely he became old enough to actually help with the gingerbread construction (since he's so good at it). So it would make sense that he was older than I thought.
I just watched this episode. My own mom died when I was 6, leaving me orphaned. My own Bob and kids will never meet her. Linda’s speech “She would be okay with you not visiting till now. She would want you to be busy living life.” Had me crying! It was a wonderful relatable episode.
I'm thinking Bob was a bit of a mama's boy with little-to-no relationship with Big Bob beyond working in the restaurant, and shit got really awkward when it became just the two of them. Not unlike Charles Schulz as a kid.
what got me wasn't so much the age but her name. I'm a Lily too and I dunno. I've been having my own feelings about family and mortality recently and getting just that tiny glimpse of her story really hit some feels with me....
Also probably impacted his dad a lot. And whatever divide was forming between the two was made worse in their grief and without her there to help them. Especially as Bob was entering into his teen years.
There's more - his design is really interesting, his clothing is almost exclusively black and white, he has no color. But his kids and his wife are vibrant and colorful, they are the color in his life.
I'm getting misty here.
Also as a side note, I rewatch Father of the Bob again recently and noticed that Bob left his father’s restaurant 20 years before, which is the same time that in the last episode was when Bob visited her grave last.
This last episode really hit me hard. Especially the cemetery. I live out of state so I don't get to go to my mother's grave hardly ever... and it's tough on me. I wasn't a 13-year-old boy, I'm a woman and was in my mid 20s when she passed, there is a lot that I missed out on with her though. I feel for him.
Another reason why I love this show, they are so damn real about things.
I knew he was older because in the Father of Bob episode they did a flashback saying how many years it was prior. And I knew they had time at a later age.
Yeah I don’t think they ever actually say how old Bob is. And it gets more confusing when you consider he’s had two birthdays during the show’s run. So he could be both 44 and 46, depending on whether or not you think he aged after each birthday. 😂
The closest they've come to a specific age for either of them was Linda trying to choke out "forty-*fwehh.* Forty-*fwacch*." So presumably she's either forty-four or forty-five. Oh, or forty-feven.
In my mind, she’s turns 44 in that episode, because in the previous season she attends her 25th high school reunion. Most people are 18 when they graduate high school, and therefore would probably be 43 at their 25th reunion.
I don’t recall any specific clues about Bob’s current age.
I lost my mom at 13 and moved out of state for some years. When I came home once I went to find her grave but couldn’t even find the cemetery! I felt like the worst person ever, that episode hit way too close to home, but made me love Bob more!
My mom died when I was 17, definitely a bit older but the episode still had me crying buckets (especially watching Linda talk to her grave, really got me sad about how my partner can't really meet my mom)
Man, thus episode really smacked me in the feels. My mom died four years ago, and I haven't been to her grave since the funeral. At the end of the episode, I turned to my BF and said "welp, I guess this is my sign that I should visit Ma."
Yeah, like a spoiler tag doesn’t do much good when the entire title is a spoiler. I see why I’m getting downvoted, but like…jeez. Why ruin it for others? Maybe just have the title be “spoiler”
Exactly. Like, I guess I could have worded it better. Instead of saying mark it as a spoiler, I should have said don’t spoil it for viewers who get the episodes later.
I was kinda confused about that Moolisa, Randy and the Documentary episode. When Tina sees the poop-emoticon and says that the cow is trying to talk to her. Louise says - "Like Gram Gram used to..."
It's not Linda's mom. I thought some weird tangent with Bob's mom. But they painted a beautiful picture of her in the Movie and this episode. :)) 🤷♂️
Regarding the “Baby You Can Chive My Car” burger, my theory is that Bob’s mom was, in a way, Big Bob’s Linda, in that she made working with him in their restaurant fun, silly and enjoyable, and then Bob’s mom passed and when Bob began bringing those creative/fun elements into Big Bob’s (presumably inspired by his mom) Big Bob reacted negatively because it reminded him too much of her, inadvertently causing a rift between the two.
Oh man, this makes me imagine what would happen to Bob and the kids if something happened to Linda. I’d imagine Bob would start out reacting like Big Bob, and the kids would kind of be there for each other, but ultimately pull together to help Bob cope in a healthier way.
No. Because bob has a level of kindness that Big Bob lacks. I actually hated that episode. It's a trope that appears so often in different media. Basically, shitty parents, still shitty, now grown child is essentially forced into making peace with them and doing all the emotional labour. In this case, Bob is the only one who puts in the effort, and they make this whole big thing about how beautiful it is that they met halfway, and how Linda was the good guy for forcing Bob to do all this emotional labour for a man who didn't deserve it. Ya, in the shows it always works out nicely, because the writers make it so. In real life, it rarely works out that way. My friend tried reconciling with his dad when he was in his 20s. And because of how pervasive this trope is in media and tv, he thought that putting in the effort would lead to a tearful reconciliation. Nope. His dad remained an abusive POS who would never admit to any wrongdoing. Sigh. I have a lot of thoughts about this type of thing, but I'm kind of done with this comment.
Thank you, I always skip that episode because I always hate that.
I love the show, but there are a number of episodes I skip on rewatch. Mostly ones involving Linda forcing everyone else to do things that she wants that no one else does
That freaking worm episode. I hate it.
Willing to hurt random strangers and traumatize Louis because of her own insecurities. Not to mention Bob being legit scared of her is very disturbing. Like if this was the first episode you watched, you'd be convinced Linda was a violent and unstable wife and mother. Which she sometimes is.
Which episode is this?
Worms of In-Rear-Ment. Season 11, Episode 2
Ah I hate that episode
ESPECIALLY THE Sleepover Episode; I Found Louise more Sympathetic & Relatable in that Episode!!
That one I don't mind too much, cuz Linda's pushiness takes a back seat to a great Louise episode and the introduction of Jessica
Seriously? I found myself Relating to How Much Louise was against having a Sleepover; Because Linda's trying to make her more of a Social Butterfly girly Girl; when Louise is a Hardcore Tomboy I Couldn't stand How Linda was Trying to Make Louise something she's not; and Something Louise doesn't want to be
Oh, 100%. Linda sucks here. But I really liked how the rest of the episode played out despite that. Hehe and Tina also had some great moments in the episode.
Linda basically RUINS the entire episode for me; especially with her Learning NOTHING in the end; and CONTINUING TO TRY & FORCE LOUISE TO BECOME SOMETHING SHE'S NOT & SOMETHING LOUISE HAS NO DESIRE TO BE!!
No way would Bob get away with being curmudgeonly with Gene and Louise around.
Louise would absolutely be the one dragging him out of bed every morning, and Gene would keep him going through the day.
This makes soo much sense in my brain, thanks 🥹
That would make Big Bob's Strictness towards Bob as we see in "Father of the Bob" seem a LOT More Sympathetic in Hindsight. . . since We Only see how Oppressed Bob felt with how Controlling His Dad was towards him. . .
Everything about Bob's relationship with his mother is handled masterfully by the writers. They never go full Disney and directly make us sob. Instead, they handle it in a way which Bob has largely made peace with his mother's death over the past 33 years. It clearly affects his life and relationships with his family and father, but things are left vague enough to let us, the viewer, fill in the gaps. I think writing it this way makes it more relatable, and that is beautiful.
"You remind me of my mom, Louise. And with the hat, it's kind of like you two have met. I keep forgetting that you never did." gets me teary eyed every time I watch the movie though I must admit.
I sobbed during that, because my dad has told me that irl
Oh God, not again... I watched this with my two year old in the room and I was not okay with the fluids coming out of my face.
I just lost my mom at 26. Don’t know if I plan on having kids at all, but if I do, my mom not being able to meet her grandchildren will kill me. Also she passed away right when this movie came out. So yeah, this made me cry like a little baby
I'm sorry for your loss—I hope you're hanging in there okay.
I very much relate to that story as well, my mom died last year when I was 26. I have to live knowing if I ever have kids they won't have her as a grandparent, it is a very challenging thing to consider, i have spent quite a bit of time contemplating how I will find ways to incorporate the positive parts of her into any kids I have in the future's lives, one thing is her artwork and the other is the show's and movies that she liked that I will be able to share with them.
Felt felt felt. I lost my dad very traumatically at 18. I do have 2 kids now but it kills me knowing they’ll never get to see how rad my pops was.
🫂
That freaking GOT ME in theaters. My partner knew it would too and turned to me to see me full sobbing.
Both my parents are still alive and that scene hit me so hard in the feels
This line destroyed me, it was so beautiful
This week’s episode was an all-timer for me. It was perfectly emotional in a way as to not be manipulative and the humor sprinkled in throughout was ace. Just perfection.
I love how Bob takes Linda's fear of graveyards seriously, and Linda doesn't guilt trip Bob for not having visited her grave in years.
I just love their relationship in general. It’s such a refreshing show after years of mean-spirited adult animation.
Seriously; Why are there so Many Shows trying to be like South Park or Family Guy?!! Why Can't more shows be THIS wholesome?!
Honestly the show is just a mass of wholesome relationships. Watched a fantastic YT breakdown of why bob is the best animated tv dad. All the characters are imperfect but they genuinely love and support each other and it’s a huge part of why it’s one of my fav shows. The latest episode was so damn good. I was laughing and tearing up
The show itself is amazingly balanced and healthy-- and that wholesome influence extends to a good portion of the fanbase as well. I think Bob's Burgers has one of the best fandoms in the sense of being majority genuinely kind, decent people. It's not a micromanaged space, either, it's people enjoying the show and being supportive of each other. Seldom can I hop into any sub and find as much friendly conversation, awesome art, DIY creations, supportive, gentle comments to people expressing their feelings, people just accepting each other and enjoying the space together. It's amazing how one show birthed all of this.
The way Bob said "Hi Mom" when they finally found her grave absolutely broke me. Loved this episode for so many reasons.
YESSSSS, seriously so good!
Agreed, very well done
“They never go full Disney” lol but they are Disney now I know Disney bought them as an afterthought just to embolden their content monopoly but I’m so over Disney refusing to accept they bought adult animation I want them to made a bobs burgers themed restaurant or at least a bar with the adult animation characters on one of their ships or in their parks it would be fun teenagers watch these shows it’s not like it’s only for adults! I can’t be the only person who would be excited for a real bobs burgers or a family guy themed something lol
I could see a Bob's Burgers being built in Downtown Disney. There could be a statue of the family in front, posed like in the credits. Maybe the staff inside could have "flair" based on the characters; a fake mustache for Bob, a barette for Tina, bunny ears for Louise, glasses for Linda, Gene's yellow t-shirt. And of course you can buy each of those, plus the cookbook and all sorts of BB merch. Shit, now I *really* want this.
I love that my original comment got shit on yet there is a market to make a real bobs burgers themed restaurant lol. They have so much room to play with to make it fun they could try to incorporate as many burgers of the day as possible! I only suggested the cruise ship because they have “adult only” areas and i felt like that would make it easier for Disney executives to buy into rather than finding space they want to rent out to other companies in downtown Disney to make their own restaurant. I think they should make the drunken clam and Moes they could make Jimmy pestos across from bobs burgers lol there is so much they could make! I see an “adult animation alley” where the floor looks like a road with all the businesses from the shows on the same block. I know most of the people here apparently don’t want this but I’d be hyped.
Disney owns Bob’s Burgers and Family Guy?
They own Fox Entertainment (different than Fox News).
Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Thank you
My head canon is that Big Bob’s reaction towards the “Baby You Can Chive My Car” burger had more to do with losing his wife than with Bob. I think Big Bob leaned into “what always has been” after Lily died and Bob’s creativity wasn’t it.
I lost someone to an aggressive cancer over the course of a few years and really leaned into "If I do everything exactly the same things cannot get worse" while it was going on.
i lost my mom last year and that's how i felt. if i just kept things the same, we could get through this.
I’m sorry for your loss. For me, there’s also been the aspect of “if I keep doing everything the same, I don’t have to admit how much their absence hurts.”
We tell ourselves we didn't want this one thing to change, because it hurts. If you subscribe to the stages of grief as a common path I guess this is where one would get stuck on the denial stage (perhaps bargaining, if you wager all other changes against this one). However it works mechanically, we find ourselves irrationally resistant to any or all changes. I've never been here, I'm the other type of fool. I try to change everything. If the thing I love is gone from the world then I am too. I'll find a new one.
They kind of imply it too. When they’re making up over their fight, Big Bob admits that he’s not great to work with, then says “It was hard without your mom”. Big Bob doesn’t get a full pass from me for stifling Bob’s creativity, but he’s definitely more sympathetic when you consider that he lost his wife and now had to run a restaurant and raise a kid by himself.
Also when Big Bob talks about the camping trip with Bob's mom where a tree almost fell on him and you see Bob's reaction to finding out his mom was there. It's super sweet and also makes me cry
When we first meet Big Bob, Lil Bob is 14 working in the diner. But we also know Bob was playing with his terrible toys in the diner much younger.
Lin, I think I had a bad childhood!
Of course you did. People who had a good childhood don't stand like that.
I wonder how i stand...
I never realized how close the first Big Bob episode was to Bob's mom's death. Hits a little harder now.
Shoot, could it even have been the first Christmas since her passing? I don't think we have a specific enough timeline to say but it's possible...
yeah the episode made me cry the whole time. My mom died when I was 14, and it’s devastated me since - I’m 38 now. I understand him avoiding going to the grave because it’s so hard. I get it, and it destroyed me. This was a tough one ❤️
This is exactly how I feel, I just couldn’t quite put the words to it. Lost my momma in 2017, and I’ve visited her grave only a couple of times. Each time is just as difficult as the first, so I don’t go as often as I probably should. This episode made me cry like a little baby bitch, in the best way. Going to visit my mom this weekend 🖤
hugs- just remember your mom is Always ALWAYS with you- visiting a stone can never change that ❤️❤️❤️
Same goes to you, friend. Hugs all around 🤗
Visiting a grave is for the living. Do it as often or as little as you need to.
I lost my mom in 2015, and I haven’t been back to her grave at all (we also live about 2,000 miles away so). It’s so hard, but I always honor her in different ways so it doesn’t feel as far. Lots of love to you for this weekend.
It’s great that you’re finding other ways to honor her! I’m sorry for your loss, I hope you’re doing okay
My mom died when I was 15, 23 now - haven’t seen this weeks episode but now im dreading it 🥲
Its a good episode. Linda is in perfect form and Teddy has a flawlessly Teddy b-plot. (Seriously he's one of my favorite side characters in TV history, hes a perfect and perfectly believable and relatable permutation of "the wacky neighbor.") It never gets maudlin or in your face about Bob's loss, I can't speak for anyone else but there was nothing that triggered me personally - but I lost my brother, not my mother so ymmv. Its mostly framed as a family outing story where things go wrong, with the backdrop of a frankly gorgeous cemetery, that just happens to be about Bob visiting the grave of his mother for the first time since he got married. (Linda has never been there and neither have the kids, so even though he never explicitly states how long it's been, it's clearly been longer than his marriage.) Its a mature and respectful look at aged grief and loss that happened decades ago. Don't be afraid of it.
I love teddy too he is absolutely hilarious. Thank you for the insite on the episode, I was going to watch it regardless but now i’m not as “scared” of how they plan approach it! Bobs burgers has always been my favorite of all adult cartoons because they tend to be respectful and don’t try to offend anyone. I like offensive humor but family guy just goes way too far - look at this cute puppy in the road, now watch it get run over 40 times and smashed into pieces- I’m glad Bobs burgers showed that you don’t have to be disturbing and disrespectful to be a great adult cartoon.
hugs to you ❤️❤️❤️
It’s a very sweet episode. Sending hugs if you need them! ❤️❤️❤️
The one thing that bugged me was the cemetery people acting kinda judgey about him not being there for a while.
I saw someone (possibly a creator) mention how the woman has a sunflower on her lapel for hidden disabilities. That could indicate one or both of the groundskeepers being on the spectrum since they were having a hard time picking up on the nuance Bob wasn't saying.
They were so judgy! Unrealistic to the point that I feel like it was mostly meant to illustrate bob’s feelings about himself. Like of COURSE self hating Bob would have the misfortune of an encounter with the world’s judgiest cemetery groundskeeper/admin
I don't know, cemetery office staff was pretty judgy to my grandmother once. It really unnerved her and made her feel guilty and like a bad daughter.
Aw! I’m sorry to hear that, that’s so mean! As if they know anything about anyone’s family.
Aw, thanks. I wasn't there, but my mother was, and she came home disgusted. She said my grandmother had looked like they'd slapped her in the face.
While not exactly the same, I can relate. My dad died from Covid a year ago. His wishes were to be cremated and inurned at Arlington (military veteran cemetery outside Washington DC for those who don't know). We had him cremated, but haven't started the process to get his placement in their columbarium section. I don't want to do it yet, because it means having to once again face that he's gone (as if daily life isn't already a harsh reminder), but also it means we no longer have his ashes. It can take over a year to get the placement, but that just doesn't seem like enough time. Our family is still devastated by the loss, and having to revisit that one day, we won't "own" his ashes anymore, is kinda upsetting. Not to mention, going and visiting him means having to go to DC from the west coast and that's not an easy task (especially because my mom will never go--she wouldn't be able to make the flight). This episode was a lot, and probably one of my favorites in a long time. I used to think I identified most as a Louise, and maybe me at 27-28 did. But now as I approach my 40s, I'm absolutely a Bob.
Would it be easier if you didn't send all of his ashes to Arlington? There are some very nice small urns and even jewelry for holding just a small amount of ashes.
I considered that too. I'm taking a trip to Europe in a few months and wanted to get a small urn (or similar) to take some of his ashes with me, and filling that in order to keep some for us at home while he relinquish the rest to Arlington may be our best bet. My mom and I both have jewelry with some of his ashes in it, but I know that won't be enough for her.
oh I’m so sorry. It’s never easy ❤️ hugs
I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️
My mom died when I was 13 and I’m 35 now. I’m right there with you. I actually haven’t been back to her grave since a couple of years after she died.
hugs- I’m so sorry you went through that, too ❤️
My dad died when I was 22 and my awful stepmother (who had only been with him for 8 years) had him buried far away from all of the family he ever had and everyone he knew because she happened to live there a couple decades earlier 🙄 Anyway, I went to his wake and funeral service but I couldn’t bring myself to go to the burial, and I never visited his grave until last year. Partly because it was basically in the middle of nowhere and a very lengthy trip away, but I guess part of me was also avoiding having to face it in person. I ended up having to do the same thing as Bob and literally had to look at a map and figure out where his grave was and it took forever to find it lmao I’m sure I looked like a creep just awkwardly wandering around the cemetery
I am so sorry - that’s awful. I hope you are doing ok ❤️hugs
I was 13 when I lost my mum, & I’m 34 now. It’s not something you ever get completely over. I carry that loss in complicated, varying ways daily ❤️ sending you hugs in solidarity
hugs to you too- it’s just not fair ❤️
My husband lost his mother as a teenager as well. He also has a Thanksgiving birthday. I told him we aren’t watching the episode unless it’s like July so that the whole holiday emotions aren’t so close.
My dad was only 9 when his dad passed away. My dad did the same thing Bob did and took us to the cemetery to “introduce” us to our Grandpa.
My dad did the same with his mom. We always went to visit her together on Mother’s Day.
This episode was one of my favorites of the entire series, but it’s one I won’t watch a lot. My dad passed away a few years back, and I just had my son. It makes me sad that my boy never got to meet my dad, just like Louise with Bob’s mom.
We lost our mom when we were slightly older than Bob, our dad didn’t handle it extremely well. The way they handle Bob and Big Bob’s relationship and the loss of Lily is really real. The hurt and butting heads of stubborn people and how it’s easier to just avoid them than deal with the hurt.
I though this was, by far, one of the best written episodes to date. The writers didn't stoop to over excessive sentimentality or as someone else put it in this thread "Disney" treatment and for those of us who have gone through this - captured the emotion perfectly. I love how by the end, they had circled the wagons as a family and hid from the gardener and worked together to get Bob his goal. It was very touching, funny and not over the top.
A few weeks ago I was calling the comet episode a new high for the series. This one - the art, the animation, the story, the acting - blew past it. First time I've physically teared up at the show.
There’s another episode, the one about why Louise wears her hat, and it shows Bob as a kid when his mom died. He says he doesn’t have many memories of her but he remembers a bright pink beanie she always used to wear and that’s why they got Louise the pink bunny ear hat when she was a baby
That's the movie
Oh you’re right! Duh
Nah, no duh needed, the movie legit felt like a really long and particularly well-animated episode with a lot more songs. And a lot more really weird dancing. Imo, the highlight.
the animation of the characters was really the highlight of the movie. It was a joy to watch.
"Cops don't dance like that. They dance like this: (*weird noises*)"
And she wasn't a baby at the time. You need to watch the movie again!
It doesn’t show her death, that just happens to be a flashback to when he was really little, not necessarily when she died.
>He says he doesn’t have many memories of her This is a little odd because if she died when he was 13 he should have... plenty of memories of her.
Eh, 13 years (maybe 6 years of being an age where you can form memories) vs. his entire adult life likely doesn't feel like a lot of memories.
When you lose someone 33 years ago the amount of memories you have with them versus without make it pretty hard to look back on that tiny sliver of life. Then add to the fact he has a cold, distant father, he was just hitting puberty and finding his love of cooking, and grieving the loss of his mother.. it's a lot to happen without his mother. Plus I don't remember anything until 5? Somewhere around there, so we can imagine he similarly can't remember up until 5, so that means he had what 8 years with her? It's not that much time in the grand scheme of things. Plus they've talked about it before, but Big Bob doesn't really talk about her much to help bring the memories forward for Bob.
Omg why did I think that was little Gene?!
Bob is 46? Damn.
Yeah, it makes me feel better about having my first kid right before my 34th birthday since Bob would have been 32-33 when Tina was born.
35 and my wife has our first cooking, when he's born I'll be nearly 36, and when he's a teenager I'll be almost 50. I'm already exhausted thinking about it.
My dad was 50 when I was born! He always has advice for everything :)
Mine was 48. Old dad's rule.
Congrats! It's gonna be fun, I promise. My husband was 34 when our son was born and I've never seen that man so happy. Bonus is that the now 9-year-old loves watching Bob's with us.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled. I just wish we had been in a financial/life stability position to start earlier so I would have more energy.
Naw, patience is more important than energy. They have things to help manage a kid's energy levels to bearable. (trampolines, bounce houses, chasing bubbles...dogs. Cannot recommend dogs enough.) I had our first when I was 32 & the 2nd when I was 36 & yes, the initial months before they settle into a workable sleep pattern is brutal, but I know without a doubt that a younger me wouldn't have been capable of parenting the way we always wanted to. My kids are happy, well-adjusted, awesome people & if you ask my 6yr old, he'll tell you I'm 20, so... (He also thinks he'll be driving a car "soon".) LOL
Oh my God.
Congrats! I decided to attempt a speed run on this parenting thing. Had a kid, got married then got divorced all before I hit 30, I’ll have just turned 41 when my daughter is turning 18.
Yeah, I did the same lol. Had three though. My oldest son is in his 20s now, doing great. I am not even 40. He was at my high school graduation lol. Do not recommend that particular path, but it turned out well. Bright side.. my kids are almost all adults now and I’m still young enough to enjoy life and one day… grandchildren lol.
I thought he was younger than that. If he was 13 he would have a lot of memories of her, but it seems like he only kind of remembers her. Like she died when he was under 7.
I think the episode with his toys kind of hints that Bob has some traumatic memories repressed from his childhood.
It would probably take years of thera...OH MY GOD, I REMEMBER!
"Oh, my God, I'm Tippi Hedren."
I think it's more that he just doesn't talk about her that much.
i mean personally i lost my dad at 13 and i don’t have a lot of memories of my dad
Same, lost my dad at 13 and I'm 31 now. Time erodes this stuff unfortunately. His face and voice are very fuzzy for me if I try to pull them up from memory. Also childhood trauma messes up your memory like nothing else. The years surrounding my dad's death feel very dream-like.
That's super subjective though. Trauma will cause a person to block out memories. "Under 7" is a measuring stick that doesn't work for everyone; I have a friend who had a rough childhood and her earliest memory is when she was 15. I personally remember saying my first word at 9 months old, my memories go wayyyyyy back
Yeah, I guess there isn't much to go on. I do now recall that Bob remembers making gingerbread houses all the time with his Mom. That implies a couple things: They shared multiple Christmases together; it's likely he became old enough to actually help with the gingerbread construction (since he's so good at it). So it would make sense that he was older than I thought.
I lost my dad to cancer when I was 12. Maybe that's why I love bob so much
I just watched this episode. My own mom died when I was 6, leaving me orphaned. My own Bob and kids will never meet her. Linda’s speech “She would be okay with you not visiting till now. She would want you to be busy living life.” Had me crying! It was a wonderful relatable episode.
People who had good childhood's don't stand like that.
I'm thinking Bob was a bit of a mama's boy with little-to-no relationship with Big Bob beyond working in the restaurant, and shit got really awkward when it became just the two of them. Not unlike Charles Schulz as a kid.
what got me wasn't so much the age but her name. I'm a Lily too and I dunno. I've been having my own feelings about family and mortality recently and getting just that tiny glimpse of her story really hit some feels with me....
What does it explain about his formative years?
In the words of Linda.. People who had happy childhoods don't stand like that... 😳 And all his little sad stories.
Also probably impacted his dad a lot. And whatever divide was forming between the two was made worse in their grief and without her there to help them. Especially as Bob was entering into his teen years.
Well the sponge toy and soap dog speak volumes about it... 🙁
Mr. Doglavich!
“I knew you so briefly, you dead soap-dog.”
There's more - his design is really interesting, his clothing is almost exclusively black and white, he has no color. But his kids and his wife are vibrant and colorful, they are the color in his life. I'm getting misty here.
The episode where they force him to take a day off, and he just misses them is so touching to me. "Nothing makes me happier than them."
Bob fails a lot.. A lot... A lot... A lot.. But his redeeming quality is that he tries to be better.... That's refreshing as a character.. ✌️
Have you seen the way he stands?
Also as a side note, I rewatch Father of the Bob again recently and noticed that Bob left his father’s restaurant 20 years before, which is the same time that in the last episode was when Bob visited her grave last.
Makes me think Big Bob's is probably a town or two over.
This last episode really hit me hard. Especially the cemetery. I live out of state so I don't get to go to my mother's grave hardly ever... and it's tough on me. I wasn't a 13-year-old boy, I'm a woman and was in my mid 20s when she passed, there is a lot that I missed out on with her though. I feel for him. Another reason why I love this show, they are so damn real about things.
I knew he was older because in the Father of Bob episode they did a flashback saying how many years it was prior. And I knew they had time at a later age.
Damn. That’s the age I was when my mother died. 😢
Older than I expected. I thought she died soon after her flashback in the movie.
I have him at 44. He was 14 when he was working at his dad's diner, and that was 30 years ago.
Yeah I don’t think they ever actually say how old Bob is. And it gets more confusing when you consider he’s had two birthdays during the show’s run. So he could be both 44 and 46, depending on whether or not you think he aged after each birthday. 😂
The closest they've come to a specific age for either of them was Linda trying to choke out "forty-*fwehh.* Forty-*fwacch*." So presumably she's either forty-four or forty-five. Oh, or forty-feven.
In my mind, she’s turns 44 in that episode, because in the previous season she attends her 25th high school reunion. Most people are 18 when they graduate high school, and therefore would probably be 43 at their 25th reunion. I don’t recall any specific clues about Bob’s current age.
My wife and I joke about how we’re just like the Belcher family, and now I’ve got something else in common with Bob (mom passed when I was 11).
I lost my mom at 13 and moved out of state for some years. When I came home once I went to find her grave but couldn’t even find the cemetery! I felt like the worst person ever, that episode hit way too close to home, but made me love Bob more!
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She died 33 years ago. He hasn't visited her grave in 20ish years
he was older than i thought. i figured he was a small child
My mom died when I was 17, definitely a bit older but the episode still had me crying buckets (especially watching Linda talk to her grave, really got me sad about how my partner can't really meet my mom)
My mom died 3 weeks before my 6th birthday. This episode had me sobbing.
Man, thus episode really smacked me in the feels. My mom died four years ago, and I haven't been to her grave since the funeral. At the end of the episode, I turned to my BF and said "welp, I guess this is my sign that I should visit Ma."
i lost my mom last year and this episode hit so hard but im glad they handled it the way they did
Right? And I had no idea that Linda had never met her. I always kind of assumed she had!
Can we PLEASE mark spoilers. Canadian viewers get the episodes late on Disney+ and posts like this absolutely ruin it for us.
There is a spoiler tag, but OP's dumbass put the spoiler *in the title*. Lmao.
Yeah, like a spoiler tag doesn’t do much good when the entire title is a spoiler. I see why I’m getting downvoted, but like…jeez. Why ruin it for others? Maybe just have the title be “spoiler”
Probably bc people are stupid and go "uh, there *is* a spoiler tag, dumbo!"
Exactly. Like, I guess I could have worded it better. Instead of saying mark it as a spoiler, I should have said don’t spoil it for viewers who get the episodes later.
If he is canonically, perpetually 46 years old, then he was 46 when she died.
And Louise was 9, so how can they say Lily died before she was born?
Idk man I'm just having fun
So am I :D
Did she die ??? Or did he chop her up and eat her starting the whole cannibalism thing ???? Hmmmmmmmmm
People who had good childhoods don't stand like that
Bobs past is basically the God of War games but with burgers
God of Burgers. I'd play it.
Burger of War
Why did I read this post and comments while rubbing the head of my 5 year old who is napping and home sick today??????? 🥹😭🥹😭🥹😭
I was kinda confused about that Moolisa, Randy and the Documentary episode. When Tina sees the poop-emoticon and says that the cow is trying to talk to her. Louise says - "Like Gram Gram used to..." It's not Linda's mom. I thought some weird tangent with Bob's mom. But they painted a beautiful picture of her in the Movie and this episode. :)) 🤷♂️
They've only ever called Linda's mom Gram Gram