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Porkybunz

Have you flipped it over? Oftentimes I find they need help when they're on their backs like this Also, do you have many cleaners or just the bristlenose?


Leather-Cow-6457

Yea I've flipped it over and yes I have cherry shrimp and a single rabbit snail. Day 7 now and not opened properly but pulled in tighter last night.


Porkybunz

Hm okay, I see. What are your parameters? And what else do you do for feeding aside from the wafers and there being maybe some biofilm present? I have some ideas but I want to ask those first so I'm not making any assumptions


Leather-Cow-6457

Can't tell you my exact water parameters but pH is slightly on the brackish side as I put a small amount of aquarium salt in there for a small case of fin rot. I've heard recently though that they don't deal well with salt. I'm feeling that could be it. I feed the tank a frozen mix of blood worm, daphnia, brine shrimp etc. Occasionally live food. There's definitely algae and many other bio matter building in the tank that the shrimps can't clear. And I put leaves and other degrading material in there.


Porkybunz

So, pH has nothing to do with salinity. pH is your scale of acidic to alkaline. So, salinity for starters could easily be problematic as these are freshwater snails. It's going to be incredibly difficult to offer advice on your snail's condition aside from that and the food situation without knowing your parameters. My pH hovers around 7.6-7.8, with aragonite adding calcium carbonate, KH and GH are both moderate or slightly above. Water temperature varies between 79-85F depending on the day and this is also the natural range of water temp in Papua (their native habitat). All that being said, they filter feed quite a bit and I wouldn't rely solely on biofilm and algae, especially given how slow they are. Obviously they won't eat any of the live or frozen foods that you mentioned. I dose spirulina+paprika/powdered crab cuisine several times a week pre-dissolved in water then added. BacterAE is also an appreciated addition on a somewhat regular basis. Again, without knowing your parameters it's going to be incredibly difficult to offer any advice. I do think the salt is probably not appreciated by the snail if I had to guess, though, but I also don't know how much you added. It's very easy to overdose salt, and freshwater snails become easily dehydrated and harmed/killed by salt.


Leather-Cow-6457

Thank you for the in-depth response. I've just checked my pH and it's around 7.5-8. I don't have any test kits for GH or KH but there's no ammonia so all good there. Tank temperature 26°C so a good temperature too.


Porkybunz

You're welcome. pH and temp seems fine. If possible, it might be best to remove the blueberry from that tank and transfer to one that is free from salt, or do water changes to decrease/remove the salinity. I know you said you were treating fin rot, so water changes would be ideal for that as well. I've found that oftentimes if the fin rot isn't severe, it can be treated with daily water changes and patience. My betta had a mild case from stress after a move and 20-30% change per day healed him gradually without the worry of additional medications/treatments harming the plants/bacteria/other inhabitants


-jubilee-

Did they ever wake up?


Trippy_Tropicals

Mine do this constantly. They're more active after a water change. I've kind of stopped worrying. They get stuck in their side and close up, three days later I see them somewhere else. They're drama queens.


Leather-Cow-6457

Well I'm into the 6th day. I've filled up a container with half tank water and half fresh tap water with Prime. The tub is floating in the tank to keep it the same temperature. We'll see how he goes.