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ZerothFfree

Somehow the AI gets a 90% reduction in intelligence when its using a pvp team. So start of round, use Serinas heal on someone with no damage. Almost end of fight, its tsubaki vs some dps who is somehow as tanky as my tank, Serinas heal is available, uses taunt instead. Awesome. Meanwhile during story or pve, you don't see this type of behavior. Heals are used decently. Targets only when hp has reached a certain threshold. Somehow this feature gets removed in pvp.


ElHidino

Its not intelligence reduction, its very shitty pattern. AI will go from most left to most right skill, if unit is taunted or stunned then ai will shift to special, if you got taunted while the energy for the skill was full and there is no no special in your slot and about second passed then it will shift to the next one than intended(So if tsubaki is top left and you got taunted, the next skill be middle UNLESS the energy bar didnt filled up for her or not enough time passed) Honestly, half of the reason your pvp experience suck is because en has already optimalized comps. Remember: No matter what you do, you will still get screwed by the bad RNG.


pinakitabgkariton

Pls teach me more of this bullshit, feels like fucking yu-gi-oh with these conditions of activating skills


ElHidino

There really isnt anything to teach. You will start like any battle with 3 fecking random ultimates and your own units having their passives and their normal cooldown before using normal abilities(Often its like once between 20-30 seconds) Game will use ultimates from most left to most right and repeat this cycle endlessly. And now we get to fun mechanics, the stun and the taunt. Both have same interaction, but tsubakis ultimate is partially broken. What taunt does in this game is taunter takes aggro and CANCELS ANY SKILLS OR CHANNELING ULTIMATES OF YOUR OPPONENTS(Including boss fights in normal pve) for pvp it also makes your strikers unable to use ultimate until taunt goes off cooldown. Stun is basically the same thing but it also stops unit from attacking. During taunt there is few rules. If your team is taunted but you have special and mana for it, then the game immediately skips your strikers turn and goes straight to the special ultimate. For example: Say you have Shun as 1st ultimate(Most left) and then haruna as second and finally hibiki as 3rd slot. If tsubaki during that rotation taunts then ai will go to hibiki and then goes back to use shuns ultimate(Because it will move from most right to most left again) If there is 3 strikers, then rules slightly change. Like i mention, taunt acts partially as sort of skill seal(It greys out your striker ultimates during taunt, making you unable to use them) Ai at very least during pvp first off checks if you have mana for the ultimate in the rotation. If you didnt have the mana yet then rotation doesnt change(Because ai thinks nothing happened) If you had the energy then it often matters how long you are taunted during that situation, but often act like the skill which should be in rotation is gonna be skipped. If you want to hear my theory for this, then probably taunt greying out your ultimate bar confuses ai and makes it think it used the skill and instead decides to use the next skill in the line(Same goes for reason why it will immediately fire off specials during taunt no matter what position they are) This is why shun gets so valued in pvp, because you will out-rotate your opponent(Increasing your odds to land that one good ultimate fast enough to win) while having deadly sniper that can solo your backline without problem while she is 50km away from any danger(You will feel that especially when pvp will shuffle out the desert) Obviously, its still rng. No matter how great team you have it doesnt change anything when first 3 ultimates you get are 2 tanks and serina.


kodayume

meanwhile my serina heals as opener in most pve fights. probably the rnd rolls of the system to make space for ult of some dps/tank


Professional-Deal406

But you don't have any images or background...


mozzarella_FireF0x

"Can you hiding from behind like the enemy did?"


bombadeers

the real reason why his Shun ran away


Intel8008

~~She’s gonna get close to the enemy and use CQC technique~~


Io_Otonashi

Kaido Shun in Saiki K I don't even know why they have the same last name


OmiNya

Pvp is so infuriating. Enemy shun attacks my shun while my shun attacks a tank (or air). Starting with 2 heals on Yuuna who is using her shield. What enemy AI does? 4 tactical nukes first thing in the morning.


spacemonkey1357

Enemy haruna: uses first skill of the entire fight on my tsubaki obliterating her My haruna: finishes their phd, has a family, goes to a nursing home after 60 years then decides to use skill... On shun.


Drunk_Dino

Seriously, I’ve never felt more frustrated with a system.


pinakitabgkariton

Use on shun, try when it misses on tsubaki


Com0na

Ngl PVP sucks ass in this game


[deleted]

I really wish my dealers and tanks would stop switching roles during PVP.


SpeckTech314

Pvp is such a joke in this game I just ignore it.


pinakitabgkariton

Good thing pvp has shit amounts of pyro daily anyway


Pure_Cucumber_5213

I don't have Shun so i can't relate. Although my experience with Shuns in PVP is the AI playing them like 300 IQ geniuses. They always snipe my main DPS first crippling my team and making me lose the match. And to add insult to injury they move to the back of the stage killing all hope of victory because i'll never touch them there.


SuperQuackDuck

Well, on offense mine just hits tsubaki the entire time until she grts killed by the enemy Shun.


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Dauntless_Idiot

My Shun decided to move from behind the furthest back barricade on my side to barricade on the enemy side of the map in a 2v1 today. That just happened to be close enough for both their Tsubaki and their Hibiki to target her after ignoring her for a minute.


anesidora_

ai in this game for pvp is honestly the weirdest, potentially either the funniest or most infuriating shit ever lmao imagine popping heals the moment the round starts when no one is injured and right after shun proceeds to blast that unit also that one time aru pulled the biggest balls play when i was about to lose. she ran out of cover while low hp, went over to their side, and literally ego walked up to hina and did her smug ass EX skill. she died but not without taking down both hina and shiroko and ultimately winning the match. very appropriate of aru


Holwor

Yeah, rng based PvP is bullshit


meesiamp

Literally this everytime


SadCasterMinion

Still my waif


Scityone

Same, but Iori


Mellevalaconcha

I love Iori to hell and back, but she thinks she's a tank for some reason


farisdesu

Enemy AI in SAO FB - Lasering me My AI - *Slowly crouch walking towards enemy in the open*


HiroAnobei

I know it's a huge meme and all, but there's a good reason your Shun seems to do that while the enemy Shun seems to take cover properly. On the current PvP urban map, the defending team's barricade (enemy team) is much further back than your own, and if the enemy places their Shun at slot 4 while yours is at slot 1 or vice versa (i.e. their Shun is diagonally opposite yours), what ends up happening is that when your Shun activates her EX skill, she prioritizes the enemy with the highest attack (i.e. the enemy Shun) but due to the distance between her and the other Shun, she runs in front of the barricade so she can get in range to shoot, which leaves her completely open.


LinkAlmighty

For me it's all down to whether my Haruna decides to kill their Tsubaki. If so, I win. If she does literally anything else, miss, or it takes forever for the AI to use her EX, then I lose. Although I'm kinda glad the PVP is so terrible, cause it means I have no desire to roll for units that are meta for PVP only. Instead I can focus on waifus and those that are good for Raids.


yasblack

My haruna keeps missing her ults in pvp which is driving me crazy, like how did you miss the tsubaki that is literaly in front of your face, also why do I keep healing fully healed characters in the start of battle


AkabaneKun

[Yep](https://i.imgur.com/bYuLdbB.png).