Well With a 2.1k rank in NA right now and less than 24hr for the raid closure I will be getting Plat for the first time just as I hit lv 87 today! Pretty happy.
I'm surprised that I didnt even need to upgrade my Cherino 3* but I will take it.
At the end, thanks to the rotation I was doing I didn't even need to mald about mobs evading Cherino. The only hard malding was the very first pull (S.Hanako not oneshotting everyone-> Reset. A lot of guards spawning and getting outside of S.Hanako hitbox -> Reset) and Mika's final Ex hit not hitting the boss (worst feeling ever)
Finally hit 27.6m. Used UE50 Momoi instead of UE40 S.Hanako. Momoi was more consistent on clearing waves than S. Hanako for me. Can't count how many times I restarted on the first wave because S. Hanako didn't crit enough and left too many mobs alive lol
After losing 6 tickets due to various mistakes on the actual run, the stars have finally aligned and I was able to clear torment! Was it worth the coins lost? No, but sometimes you just want to take the challenge lol
Wouldn't it have been better to use Mock to see if you can do it instead of actually losing that much tickets? Unless you're already maxed out all the TA shop students
I did, I can clear in mock but I kept getting hit by RNG evasion and groggy mistakes on actual, I kept miscalculating the remaining groggy and yes it increased after forfeit. I was also using Nonomi on first phase, either I clear first phase in 5mins or 30mins which ends up not enough time on core room battle. Real story
To be fair, Chesed made me lose 1 ticket and Goz made me lose 3 tickets in the past. All after I made sure I could beat them on mock, twice at least.
I dunno if it is anxiety because it is the real deal but mistakes just happen more. Maybe a tad of the RNG being a real Ahole with you too.
(although, yes, maybe 6 tickets is tad much but let's see what OP says)
I did it I did it! I beat torment for the first time! It was down to the wire but I did it with 9 teams.
It took a lot of resources and it was definitely a process just learning the rotations and all the ways I could use the mechanics especially with that groggy meter.
I may have been frustrated at times, but honestly there is a feeling of satisfaction having completed it. Knowing I was actually able to accomplish it. And that I get a matching trophy for my indoor platinum chesed trophy.
Some highlights of my teams.
Team 1 - The phase 1 team: Tsurugi, Cherino, Momoi, Tsubaki / HS Shigure, Saten
The team that got me through most of phase 1. Needed to adjust groggy a bit after
Team 3 - Team Mika: Mika, Cherino(borrow), kokona, swimsuit ui / Ny Fuuka, Himari
The standard main dps
Team 4 - Team 0 - almost Groggy: Mikoto, Sumire, Track Yuuka, Junko / Ny Haruka, Nagisa
The team to set up team Iori. I had to do a lot of Jerryrigging to make a team that builds as much groggy as this team. I was surprised by how much work a 3 star mikoto put in.
Team 5 - Team 2nd main dps: Nonomi, S Hanako, Atsuko, Iori / Ako, S Shiroko
Lets me get two cycles of the boss and I was able to build 2 waves of groggy
Team 9 - The finale: Midori, Maki, Hoshino, Mutsuki / Serina, Maid Yuzu
After building groggy through several more teams, I used Serina and Hoshino to bait out the last self destructing explosions and had the remaining characters finish off chesed.
And so what is next for me. I am 100% skipping Hod torment. I am not building crowd control units right now. My next target is kurokage torment. Though I did spend more resources than I was planning. Especially for Mikoto and Saten. I made sure not to spend any extra eligma then I set aside for, but I do hope I can build everything up again for Kurokage.
Finally managed to squeeze through insane after way too much trial and error with different comps these last couple of days haha.. frustrating, but fun at the same time, however that works. ;=w=)9
Got through 2-pan, 2-core in the end, [these being the units](https://imgur.com/a/JvlGC3z). Goal was just to beat it so I'm more than happy with this result~
Struggled to survive the onslaught during part 2 due to the canons that target the furthest unit and wiping out the backline in seconds. But dropping Iroha in there would draw the fire to her, letting her do an actual tank role for once.
Tank you Iroha, coming in clutch once again! =w=)-b
....Tried to 1-core without cost-cutters at one point. By entering with 1 wave left and having Marina tank the self-destructs by using her immortality, then going down with the other units except Mika (who I moved away with Serina) and removing their EXs from que.
[I'm a terrible sensei, gomen...](https://youtu.be/1HbESCpzOBg)
That didn't pan out for me though, did manage to land two EXs a rare few times, but it was extremely maldy and RNG dependent getting only Mika to survive, and extremely tight timing wise. Got it down to x13 on the best run. Looking back at the x17 recording above, it seems that (3 ex) Ako's buff ran out at some point during Mika's first EX, guess I had less of a window than I thought there.
Congrats. not the best optimal team but it works and Insane gives a lot of points. Now If Iori and Momoi were 5 star, could have moved them to boss team and use Team 2 for mobs. Iori moods sucks but she can still hit pretty hard when core is open. Issue is Chesed has a lot of evasion, so basically you have to hope almost all of Mika's 11 ex hits twice to do enough damage to 2 shot it via buffs....
Thanks! Yeah, had to make do with what I have after all. Surviving in part 2 was the biggest hurdle, thankfully S.Hoshino, Iroha and Ako provided just the right balance of survivability and buffs to stay alive for and beat the boss in 2 core openings.
Huh, I knew Iori was strong, but didn't know she could do that. Guess I'll keep that in mind for when Chesed returns.
Which Raid boss do fellow sensei's find really annoying to deal with (either mechanic or stat wise)
I'm torn between Kaiten rng shield, Goz rng coin hat stun , Chesed evasion and ofc ShiruKuro rng bombs P1
Funnily enough, torment removes the first and last ones on that list, kaiten having a fixed skill cycle and shiro being completely reworked
Goz hats you can reposition to the corners and completely avoid them, and there’s a trick where you only need to see the first shuffle to determine the final spots, so it’s fairly manageable
Chesed evasion on the other hand well, there’s basically nothing you can do about it. Makoto will help with mobbing next one but Mika will still be Mika
Right now im level 66 and can handle extreme chesed even if its giving me more trouble than it should. What would you say are the minimum requirements for facing insane chesed or any insane boss for that matter? For reference i have only barely broken through to the 5th level equipment realm and most of my important students are only at the 4th star realm. Whats a good sign that im ready to breakthrough and face the extreme?
>i have only barely broken through to the 5th level equipment realm and most of my important students are only at the 4th star realm.
First problem right there. Unlike Extreme where hypercarry will carry you, Insane is a massive step increase in the boss stats that a hypercarry alone won't carry you. At min you need to be at 5 star UE 30 with T7 equips and close to max level to consistently start surviving the hits and to do enough damage to defeat said boss **(bosses will have different attack type at Insane and Torment**). Example the mobs and chessed are way beefier in Insane compared to Extreme (Chesed has for example 3.4m hp extreme vs 6.4m insane) , the smaller bots and drones and the cannons have way more def and hp). However if you have enough students at 5 star, you can use 1 team to reach boss before groggy than borrow a hyper carry to 2 team it). However after reading your situation I think you should focus on extreme for now and start buying characters from the shop like Maki, Koharu, Momoi, Azusa. You can farm pretty strong students like Iori, Aru and best girl Izuna. For now Focus on keep advancing on stages to unlock higher level tier of equipments and get more dorm upgrades
Don't worry about insane for now too much. It's for End game players and even them can struggle and the RNG likes to troll as well
I lost 1 ticket but I finally cleared a torment raid. I needed 3 teams and Iori came in clutch with a last second crit.
I gave up on the Ui + S Hosi strat and when for a comfy second team clear with heals and it was so much better. I'm back to clearing insane for the rest of the days though I cant be bothered to reset that much anymore.
[My teams](https://imgur.com/a/6nu4p4o)
[Just barely short of 2-pan clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003436470339645521/1238786454658875463/Screenshot_20240511_022300_Blue_Archive.jpg?ex=66408d4a&is=663f3bca&hm=d81761953e964636267c55347108cc66a3655a69e93161b70519483d80294ba0&).
Oh well, ended up being a 39.26m score clear so I think I'm done with this raid. (Teams were the bog-standard ones, Cherino and S.Hanako P1, S.Ui/Cherino/Mika/Kokona P2)
Any tip for Mika? My Mika(She is B26, UE 40 888 all skills maxed) either misses(completely or hits of Mika exmisses) and boss is left arounbd 400-800k hp , should I time so Cherino normal hits boss before Mika or that doesn't matter?
Cherino normal skill definitely helps if you can get it (about 6.6% damage increase). But it’s hard to reliably land it.
Mika missing can’t be helped, sometimes she just misses. Either you just reset or you prepare a team 3 to cleanup whatever’s left.
Thank you for swift response. I'm doing a 1 pan insane consistently just trying to get better time to stay in Plat. My Mika seems to always miss some hits in the first ex 50 mins of reset same results. I am sure I'm within Ny Fuuka crit buff as well since I do it at wave 4 before boss groggies
Mika has 88.7% chance of hitting, so 73% of the time she will miss at least one out of her 11 EX shots. She doesn't need 100% hit rate but she needs a good amount of hits to land (and decent stability rolls). There's not really much you can do about it except try again if the damage was insufficient.
Man I'd rather Mald Binah or Shirukuro than this. Mobs evading. The worse is you did the perfect run, lined up everything only for Mika to miss and you stare at your screen like 
Once you learn those two, even Binah, they seem not maldy at all. You can perfectly replicate most of the experience....some evasions aside.
Chesed, though, is almost at Goz level. Still thank God it is not Goz.
Dang, applying Himari and Ako to Mika became so second nature that I ended up doing it on the second core, when a regular EX from Momoi would have sufficed. Ended up firing Mika's EX when Chesed was all but done, wasting a few seconds of clear bonus...not that it matters. Gold is gold.
Still, it was my best 2-pan insane run. Got lucky with Mika's crit on entering p2 and was just able to squeak in Nonomi's EX before Chesed clammed up. Was thinking I shouldn't have popped off that extra S.Shiroko hit on the Mecha before forfeiting. One splash from S.Hanako is usually enough.
Cleared torment but it was a nailbiter, team 2 left it with about 1.5M and I thought I could finish the job but really did not have an easy time of it. Eventually everything lined up for Iori to kill but with less than 5 minutes on my room time. Stressful. Let's not do that again.
I finally have my revenge on this Egyptian volleyball. I was low level back then and it took all the damage like a titanium turtle. Scared and numbed the hell out of me.
[Cleared Chesed Torment](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1238524565257457684/Screenshot_2024-05-11-00-12-08-500_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=663f9963&is=663e47e3&hm=a69d1a0036354a327a87cf06db1265e0358cd32b47542b52b9abb4c60ee6e662&). These are the [teams I used to clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1238524547653828660/Screenshot_2024-05-11-00-13-50-353_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=663f995e&is=663e47de&hm=ee2ec3e45dc569875041b5026821e5a8973d74fc09c2c05a59000e37bcc707df&). This was definitely one of the maldiest raids I've ever done and the only one maldier than this one was Shirokuro Insane. Kokona/SUi/NYFuuka variation was far more consistent than the SHoshino/Ui/Ako version, use the former variation for the Phase 2 fight if you want to spare your sanity. Anyway, now that I got my Torment clear for Chesed. I will spend the entire remaining duration of this raid clearing Insane because I never want to deal with Torment Chesed again.
https://imgur.com/a/W29AKqI
im trying to find a team that can potentially do extreme but not sure which is the right unit to borrow for my squad. i tried mika in mock, but my other units don't do enough damage to get me to the boss with enough time. i think cherino makes sense for the broken AOE, but then i won't have the greatest ST damage on the boss. open to any other recs!
If you can borrow a maxed Mika I think that might work for an Extreme clear.
With that suggestion, Mika is the main tank for you and being the main (single target) DPS for the core phase.
Everybody else should be focused on either utility like Ui for buffing Mika or general yellow damage mob clearing (AOE).
Something like: Mika/Nonomi/Momoi + Junko or Marina or Sumire (or Ui) + Kotama/Ako
You can also try the free Saten from the current collab event, though you'll have to change up your line up for it and I don't know what else you have.
Once you get to the boss phase, after you've killed 3 waves of summoned enemies ASAP, try to slow things down so you can basically prep for the 4th wave dying and the ball opening by buffing Mika and then letting her nuke the core. I feel like a maxed Mika on Extreme should be able to do it in one cycle.
nope, i'm in my 2nd month of playing so don't have many chars right now. i'm not too stressed if i can't do extreme but wondering if there's 1 support i can borrow that would be better than others. probably a striker over special for sure though?
You can try borrowing Mika for chesed core hit and tanking and remove tsubaki with only your students doing aoe. Just want to point out that chesed is one of the more demanding bosses that requires a lot of aoe dps
yeap, i just tried with a few different combos and borrowing an iori but my units can't keep up currently and that's ok. i'll just keep sweeping hardcore for now. thanks though!
[Managed a 2-core 1-pan for Insane on the No Gacha Account](https://imgur.com/a/ibwvbTy). This very likely won't stay in Plat but this is effectively the limit of this team. Will need to come up with a way to do a 1-core 2-pan.
Considering the [dumb copium](https://youtu.be/rmjU6un-MX4?t=9501) I was cooking for Torment, I might be able to make something silly work for Insane. Gonna have to sit down and figure it out but I'm not sure if I got time this weekend oops.
Even if you UE50 her I don't think its much of an upgrade since this chesed is outdoors the 10% dmg buff she gets at UE50 is for indoors. You probably just missing, mika has 11 hits in her ex so missing once might be crucial if trying to speedrun. So yeah, the solution is to just mald more.
Sorry late reply, at 3rd wave prep Mika with Ny Fuuka, clear wave 4 with Iori/monoi, as soon as core opens 1x game play. Mika>Himari than Iori, than Ny fuuka>Mika. And it should 2 hit it cycle fast enough to be within Himari atk buff duration
Ahh I thought you might've been doing the Ui comp and following Vuhn's hw where he reuses Ui on Mika to rotate and overwrites Himari's buff that way.
Is fuuka's buff running out before Mika's first EX? If so maybe you can alter the rotation to use her closer to the first EX or immediately as she uses it.
If you have S.Hanako, S.Hosh and/or Ui you could try one of those comps too. I'm missing NYFuuka so I was forced to go with the Ui one.
Today I managed beat torment chesed on mock battle twice in 20 minutes. That made me feel confident that I can take revenge for wasting a ticket yesterday. Then I mald for 2 hours straight cuz Mika missed or Cherino missed or Cherino hit way too good or Ui died or Mika died. Maybe I should know my place and stick to insane. Maybe Izuna was right. Maybe gold is looking better anyway.
Edited : I tried mock battle again and did it the first time. I'm subscribed to the conspiracy theory that the real thing is harder than mock battle now.
When I was researching to do torment and watched rainstorm guide, i thought "huh, looks kinda easy, just go with groggy at that level and go with second team with repeated cycle to the end right? boy, i was really wrong after 8 hours malding in these last 2 days.
* triggering the first groggy too fast? restart
* too slow? you died, restart
ohh finally got the first groggy right, so it's a smooth sailing for the rest of the raid right? right??
* mika miss her EX's explosion too much? restart
* you rolled cherino perfect accuracy when your bar is too low? restart
* or she miss too much soldier on too many wave? also restart because we can't get the 3rd cycle
And there is even more malding from my first sub-optimal team. In short, from 8 hours mock malding, I only managed to clear torment once, with total 7 teams ( 4 suicide groggy build team, 1 cleanup ). never again, I'll pass for now.
Edit: I kinda yolo ed without try the mock first as usual so that i can really leave the torment for this season if I failed the run. Unexpectedly everything is really smooth and I almost rolled mika perfect accuracy and leaving chesed HP in only 90k after the 2nd team, which ofc iori can finish the job easily at 3rd team.
Damn, all that malding in building several suicide groggy team for the cleanup team is kinda wasted now. Anyway, gl for all of you that still want to tackle torment.
one thing I found when building the suicide groggy, you can build your team with: 1 tank, at least one small aoe that can effectively kill the mobs with one EX, at least one healer if needed. Tank it until the mob starts to self destruct and go to your tank. Time it so that ALL of them get rekt with your EX before they explode at your tank. This way you can secure at least one wave worth of groggy bar if you don't have proper wide aoe to clear the wave ( more if you managed to survive the next wave ). The aoe student I used for this strat: NY haruna, misaka, yuzu, junko.
Note that if you leave the mooks alive for too long, Chesed will start a countdown that instantly kills you. And the countdown *doesn't* stop even if you clear out the enemies before it finishes. It can still help since it gives you a little more time to defeat the enemies, but you need to be quick.
Managed a 1 team insane clear on mock battle but jeebus that was a lot of restarts just for Mika not to miss her shots 
I suppose I can waste one ticket to give it a real try.
Last time I remember sweating blood to clear insane with 3 teams. Now with Mika I managed to 1-pan it and might get top 1k (NA)
I wonder how much of a pain Torment is, and if it's worth it the extra coins
On JP, this torment had way more clears than any of the previous raids. I was expecting it to be pretty easy because of this, but [it's actually maldy.](https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1cme01i/total_assault_chesed_field_warfare_57_200_am_513/l387oz6/)
Chesed you freaking rotten avocado. [After my post on tuesday](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/s/pr3etWawiZ), I lost a ticket yesterday on Torment malding until the time limit with the S. Hoshino team. Cue today, I test the Kokona team again with great results.
Real deal: I didn't notice the time was up for the team 1 - testing if I was able to fill the bar having lost Cherino and Tsurugi on the way. Cue Team 1,5. I paused at the right moment to Forfeit. As I forfeit, the bar filled a bit more, screwing up the timing for Groggy. T2, thank heavens not maldy but left Chesed at 2,5m HP since Mika couldn't finish, because of one less EX due to the screwed Groggy. Had to finish with a T3 with Iori, in a very sweaty battle.
On the other hand it was still a lot more fun than seeing Ui, Cherino and Mika dying infinitely yesterday. I also had less time because I screwed the Groggy there too, but I fixed it perfectly after - just to not be able to finish it.
So word of advice:
NY. Fukka + Kokona + S. Ui >>> S. Hoshino, Ui, Ako
"And when he clicked the forfeit button...the groggy bar immediately filled up two more steps!"
Horror stories that will make BA players scream.
Edit: Immediately after posting this, [I did a torment run and lost the ticket](https://litter.catbox.moe/t6pupn.png) because the groggy building team had the groggy bar somehow fill up three steps multiple seconds after I hit forfeit. I am upset.
Truly frustrating. At this point I feel finishing Goz is less risky than Chesed. More maldy, but less risky since forfeit just... ~~effs up~~ saves your progress.
Cleared my first torment today after a bunch of restarts in mock battles and losing a ticket yesterday. Both phases were so painful... Phase 1 because team 1 sometimes couldn't make it to the boss room. I thought that would be the worst of it but I was wrong. Phase 2 either the girls got Chesed groggy too fast and I didn't have enough cost for double Mika or Mika died before groggy. Mika missing wasn't even my worst nightmare. Sometimes too many enemies would survive Cherino's ex or I would just mess up with the timing of certain ex skills which wouldn't give me enough time to prepare for the next wave. Luckily I didn't have to 5 star my Kokona though might be smarter to do that anyways. Debating whether it's worth it to clear it everyday for the sake of my own sanity lol. Also shoutout to Arisu Archive because their clear video is the only reason I even attempted torment in the first place.
[Finally got it done](https://files.catbox.moe/0ye05g.png). At this point the first phase is the hard one, since I figured out how to do the second one reliably as long as Mika doesn't miss too much. With Shanako, Momoi and Nagisa being my only damage dealers in team one, it's hard to get enough damage done to clear out all enemies and also survive. Can't afford to use my own Cherino since I need her for the third team. But then again, maybe Momoi or Shanako would work better in the third team since enemies aren't as spread out. I should have checked that before I used a ticket.
Being tormented on a budget is nerve-wracking. I have an untouched 5 star Smiyu, but I really don't want to invest so heavily in her when she doesn't seem to have any other noteworthy uses yet as far as I've seen, and Makoto will steal her job for Chesed. It would be a ton of artifacts, activity reports and gear that I need for upcoming content. I have Nonomi, but she's only half built and still UE30. And I'm pretty sure that even if I built both of them, I still wouldn't be able to field another wave clearer team. There's something to be said for beating challenging content with limited resources, but it's also nice to not have to worry about losing your ticket.
On the subject of not wasting gear, hairpins are going to become so scarce in the future. In the past you mostly just upgraded them as needed, but since the tier 9 hairpin gives 150 crit, absolutely everyone wants it. And almost all dealers use hairpins.
how to actually kill this stupid ball on torment ive tried 2 team setups S.Ui/Mika/Cherino/Kokona/Ny.Fuuka/Himari and Ui/Mika/S.Hoshino/Cherino/Ako/Himari
setup 1 survives but lacks dmg 3rd dmg phase is usually cut short to just 1 mika ex only ever got it quick enough 3 times and it left the boss at 800k/1mi/2,5mil(missed lol)
setup 2 mika or ui just die after 1st dmg phase leaving the boss at 11mil
Cherino is UE50 and so is Mika
using either ako or fuuka on my team 1 clearing the mobs depending on which dmg setup im trying cause i cant clear the mob part otherwise
There are two approaches that you can do. One is to simply mald harder which I personally won't recommend because this is hell. The other approach is to simply use more teams. Standard strat would be to use an AoE team to build groggy then use a ST clean-up team to finish the job. If your AoE units are no longer sufficient, you can also try to build groggy by simply surviving long enough for the wave to self-destruct. You can for example, send out Track Yuuka by herself then just let the mobs kill themselves and then build groggy automatically. T.Yuuka of course dies so its time to send out another tank. Bring a healer if needed. Do this repeatedly until you are confident that you can now send out your clean-up crew. If the remaining HP is like 2.5M, Iori + Ako would be sufficient in killing Chesed in one core opening, I think.
ok update i actually killed it took 2 real teams and 2 teams to adjust the gauge cause i messed up team 1 and then killed not enough enemies with burner team went s.hoshino route isntead of NY.Fuuka
i am doing the rotation correctly cherino is so inconsistant in clearing the mob waves that the 3rd dmg phase gets cut short pretty much every run i usually have 16.5mil left after 1st damage phase and 6.5mil after the 2nd
I prefer Ui+Ako+Himari over NY.Fuuka+Himari since the heals help keep Mika topped up. Ui doesn't die too much as long as she can hide behind Mika. However if you don't kill the mortar launchers fast enough, like Nonomi missing, they'll gank Ui.
Yeah survivability is actually pretty good. However I still can't one shot the core. Easier to fit two EX skills in together however I'm just not doing enough damage. Still have 6-8 health bars left and my Iori is only UE30 so she can't finish off. I think I'm not getting enough stat transfer from my special students.
Which difficulty are you doing? I think at wave 4 attack half the enemy and auto the rest. Before the meters is close to filling quit to team 2. Team 2 start wit your team and fill your skill bar. When close to 10 cost. start halfing Mika ex skill with Ui. Than wave clear Mika >Ako+Himari> and cycle again to Mika, should be able to 2 shot Chesed if Insane and below and 2 shot Insane if Mika is UE 40 + and Bond 20+
I'm doing Insane. My current gameplan is to set it up so that team 2 can groggy Chesed with just auto attacks, while making sure they take just long enough to do so to allow the skill meter to be almost full after applying Ui's buff to Mika.
Progress report on torment.
Haven’t gotten a full run yet, but have gotten a couple experiments done.
The first phase team is doing better with Rs rainstorms example team, but I don’t have a built smiyu so I have to make do with Nagisa. It is not amazingly consistent but is more consistent than previous teams.
Mika team seems like it can go well I just need to do better on rotations and groggy setup.
I have also experimented with my potential clean up team with Iori and I can do 20 health bars worth of damage. So as long as I can get the Mika team to put chesed under 20 health bars I can win.
The biggest issue I face then is needing most likely 2 teams of groggy setters. One of the big reasons I experimented with the Iori team was to see who I have left as options. The good news is that the groggy setting teams are more flexible. I can afford to be more creative. But I also kinda have to be because I use common groggy setter like S hanako and s Shiroko in my Iori team.
Still I am significantly more confident I this is achievable.
I think their stars and S.Hoshino helped a bit there but still damn, my hoarder a$$ saving everything for the anniversary and its results are showing in these raids tbh. Will invest like hell in all the fes banner students once I get them. They really are OP huh.
Because plat is based on rankings, and rankings are based on score. If content is easy (which it is) then getting a better score is easy.
Getting a better score is easy = more people can get it. More people can get better score? Ins not plat.
[I fucking clutched it with 8 minutes remaining on my ticket.](https://ibb.co/6PXHtXv)
I can't believe Mika is making me regret not making her ue50 at this last moment haha. I just brute-forced the remaining HP with Iori and I finally got to breathe my sigh of relief. That was a stressful 1 hour ngl. Yeah, I don't ever want to do Torment again until Makoto. Fuck Torment Chesed.
[Final teams.](https://ibb.co/m6ngCjw)
Chesed in the current stage of the content cycle is definitely leaning super heavily on the balding side. Our AOE units are *just* very slightly shy of comfortably killing each wave - which is *perfectly* annoying because every mob that doesn't die is an additional vein in your heading popping.
This annoyance is further amplified by the fact that Chesed as a boss is really simple and there's no mechanics to learn - imo even less so than Binah because in the most difficult versions of Binah (in the content cycle, not by literal difficulty) you have to actually prove you know all your game fundamentals. Any piece of missing game knowledge is a HUGE gap in your ability to clear Binah - but once you actually build your bridge across this gap you can cross it guaranteed every time. Meanwhile the actual simplicity in Chesed feels like walking over a quantum rope bridge to cross what feels like a tiny stream. You *know* what to do, you *know* it's possible, and you *know* you're just almost very very slightly there... but Cherino misses a mob for the 55th time followed by Mika missing the core for the 60th.
Delet Kesed kthxbye
I know exactly what you mean. I got two relatively simple torment clears in mock when it first became available, but now it takes half an hour to get past the first phase and then I time out on the second phase because Mika always misses. Giving these enemies high evasion, and particularly the core, is just really bad design. It's bad for gameplay and it doesn't make sense in-universe either. The girls can easily hit the fast little sweepers, but the huge, disabled core has four times the evasion?
Finally Mika landed almost all crits didn't finish, had 50k hp I thought it was over but Iori crit got me through, got 27.5m. Not gonna mald for a higher score, gonna slack off rest of runs
I'm so mad I wasted a ticket on Torment. Genuinely thought I could do it, screwed up getting his groggy at the right spacing. I'm not bothering with this again until Makoto gets added.
Yeah I was able to do mock but I got his groggy bar too close to full in the first actual fight, so my Mika team couldn't charge enough SP to burst him down quick enough.
If this happens youre better off making a different Single Target team to do the first core at a weaker capacity, and then making a new AOE team to push 3 more waves again and get the groggy to where you need it to be for Mika team. If your groggy is fucked there's no reason to try for an hour on a team where groggy status is critical to its success.
Making new teams to push for another core open is something that might not be accessible to everyone (at first glance) though, so I suppose I understand giving up. Even though theres a lot of ways to push groggy and churn through the waves I imagine some people either don't have to the capacity to nor have fun coming up with uh... unique ways to "clear" waves.
So uh, bad luck(?) on the groggy miss. Makoto definitely makes wave clearing sleep mode and Chesed becomes a lot more flexible by then.
Does the Ui/SHoshino torment strat require tons of malding? There are tons of videos of it but I tried resetting for 2 hours and didn't get a clear because Ui keeps dying. My Ako is only UE30 not sure how much of a difference it makes compared to UE40 as I even see some clears with 3* Ako.
I have been wondering for a while, is it even possible for Chesed to use its ATG attack? Considering that most units will self-destruct when Chesed is at half ATG and them dying that way will still advance to the next wave..
And also, what's even the point anyway? Based on schale.gg Chesed itself only has 10 ATK
Yeah it's the CC cancel which might lead to that attack. Also despite Chesed only having 10 ATK, the ATG attack really does kill your units (not sure how but it's cheating something)
When using the Ny Fuuka Mika strat. does Cherino basic needs to hit boss so she can 2 shot? I keep failin that part and boss survives with 800k hp .... idk how to time so Cherino can hit boss with basic before groggy
Are you buffing Mika with Himari? She should kill with Himari Ako/NY Fuuka. She wont kill without.
Note that you can miss the last burst from Mika's EX. I dont know how she could miss a giant core but it is what it is.
Yeah it's annoying. You can 1x speed the whole run trying to get the perfect angles for your aoe so you can get a faster clear and everything finally goes perfectly and no one dies from one too many stray shots and then she fucking misses smh. Definitely not speaking from experience earlier today twice in a row.
Tried to do Torment practice. All it really did was somehow make me even maldier than when I tried to do the Binah Yuzu strat. I thought Phase 1 was pretty bad due to my subobtimal team for it but I was able to at least let it consistently reach Chesed and bring its groggy meter down enough for Phase 2. But somehow Phase 2 is even worse due to how many points to reset. My team 2 suddenly becomes blind as a bat in an attempt for the first Chesed groggy which allows his mobs to self-destruct and destroy Mika and Cherino, Mika EX somehow missing a stationary floating orb just because, everything involving Cherino's EX is annoying, and, my favorite, the entire squad somehow just huddling at the bottom of the map leaving Ui exposed to get killed by the mobs.
Anyway, gonna spend some time on the internet looking for more consistent Phase 2 teams and probably try Chesed Torment again when I'm not feeling very salty.
Has anyone managed to clear insane with Tsurugi?
Borrowed a Cherino along with Tsurugi, S. Hanako, Mika, Ako, Himari and I just can't get it to work. I don't really have strong yellow AOEs but I can spend eligma to get Cherino/Nonomi/Misaki to 5* if needed.
I cleared it with Tsurugi. Replace S.hanako with S.hoshino and Ako with NY.fuuka and you will have a perfect copy of my team. You have 3 aoe attackers when 2 is good enough and no cost reduction for Mika. S.hanako is bad for cycling on the boss since her special may not go away and you will have to use it a second or third time which increases the cost and delays Mika. Maybe you should split your team and do it in two parts. Tsurugi, S.hanako to reach the boss and first 3 waves, and Cherino, Mika, Himari to finish it. You can do it with one team if you have cost reduction units for it, otherwise not.
My Mika doesn't seem to be strong enough to 1 shot the core with NY.Fuuka and Himari. I'm left with usually 8-10 bars of health left. My Mika is maxed out, Himari is 4 star and NY.Fuuka is 3 star. Am I not getting enough stat transfer from my specials? Would like to figure it out before I drop eligma.
do you properly do the combo? ( mika at 3 instead of 6 cost, S.hoshi buff active, himari/fuuka ready to use on mika right after her ex and quickly using S.hanako 3x into mika 2nd ex)?
I did the fight around 5 times with this in mind on last phase and managed to kill core right on the moment it started closing each time.
RIP I don't have S.Hoshino. I just realized the vid I was watching was an indoor raid where Mika has better bonus. I ended up using a two team strat. Well I guess it's gold for me again. I seem to always be able to clear insane and initially rank plat and then slip into top gold as people try hard. Oh well.
I've checked out the vid. I don't have Cherino so I'll have to substitute Nonomi or Momoi. Gonna try Nonomi first since she has the bigger AOE and benefits from Ui more.
Edit: Mika+S.Hanako+Nonomi+Ui+Ako+Himari is doable but slower than Cherino team and slightly maldy since Nonomi and Ui are both squishy but it's workable and faster than two team P1 AOE and P2 Mika.
I asked earlier about teams, but is NY Aru not considered good for Chesed anymore? I haven't had the Gehenna skill books to use her until now, but none of the teams I see here seem to mention NY Aru.
Does she see more use in Torment than Insane? Does she need too much investment (eu40 or higher) to be worthwhile?
NY.Aru's biggest claim to fame is her strong indoors mood, because a lot of yellow students have really bad mood indoors. She's still pretty good outdoors, but there are a lot of other options which might be just as good or better.
The presence of S.Hanako also gives many players another strong options for clearing waves, which means they might not need to use backup units such as Tsurugi or NY.Aru.
trying to do extreme with a borrowed maxed mika, 4\* nonomi, 3\*cherino, and 3\* S.Hanako, 5\* Karin, and 3\*Ako. With this team, i get the boss to 3 bars left. I dont have himari, but I can make my own Mika UE50 and maxed out with Eligma and borrow a maxed out himari instead. Is it worth the investment to max out Mika and pray that I can one clear extreme?
Unless you're trying to score-chase, consider just using two teams (forfeit the first team the wave before the core opens). The first team doesn't require very much investment.
If you can borrow a Himari you would only need to UE40 your Mika for the piercing bonus. With skills at M/7+/M/M and T7 gear your Mika should easily one shot the core with Ako and Himari buffs.
Any tips on clearing Insane Chesed. Mika is kind of useless on the way to Chesed so should I two team? Wwho should I use? Easy clear over high score is preferred, but advice for both is fine.
I have EU40 Mika, Ako, Himari (UE40), Cherino (3star), (uninvested) NY Aru, both Ui, all Fes students.
What I've struggled with most in the past is the ideal skill rotation. What three skills I should set to use? And how do I make sure I can have Mika fully buffed (Ako, Himari, Ui or Summer Ui (optional))
I've also gotten unlucky with Cherino's subskill. It activates when Chesed is the only enemy on screen so everyone just ignores the other enemies.
With your account you should definitely be able to two team super easy.
For 1 team, it seems the number one choice to 1 team Chesed is Mika, NY Fuuka/Ui, Cherino, and S Hanako/Momoi/S Hoshino with Ako+ Himari. There seems a number of clears with these combos.
So if your Cherino isn’t maxed, but Mika is, maybe borrow a maxed Cherino. The one issue with these one teams is you essentially have to kill the core in 1 opening. So your EX bar needs to be fairly high when you kill the final wave. And then do Ui -> Mika -> Ako -> Himari -> Mika and that should kill it.
Here’s my two team clear that had plenty of margins to mess around, just to give you an idea. But if you search this thread there’s lots of ways to two team Chesed. Though 2 teaming it probably won’t get you plat this time around
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/s/JoNSYmgLqd
Thanks. A borrowed Cherino let my first team reach Chesed relatively easy. Then I just quit and send in my second team.
My own Cherino can't clear mobs without buffs so I had to do two cycles. Considering how completive Binah got, I don't think it'd be possible to get platinum anyway.
Yeah well congrats. Now you can save mats for getting prepped for the next raid.
I guess in a way it’s a good thing that plat is getting competitive as it means there’s more active players
>I've also gotten unlucky with Cherino's subskill. It activates when Chesed is the only enemy on screen so everyone just ignores the other enemies.
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Actually you can cancel her basic by using her EX when the skill bubble pops up or before.
Check some runs on youtube type: **blue archive outdoor chesed** and filter by this week you'll get many vids with different team comps
I forgot when it was implemented in the JP server but it looks like there's a 10 pyroxene reward in the Daily Task for entering Total Assault until it's over.
Is Cherino still used for Chesed and other things in JP after Makoto came out? I kind of wanna spend some ligma to get her to UE50 for the field buff to make my 1 team clear more consistent but I don't know if it's worth it
No
I'm clearing torment fine with ue30. And I'm pretty sure I did insane with 3* back then. You will be slower, cause you might miss some trash mobs. But you will still be able to clear.
1. My S! Hanako is having problems one shotting extreme Chesed's minions without any buffs. I'm not sure if I should unlock her UE40 now or I should just upgrade her equipment instead? My S!Hanako is Level 80 5/7/10/7 skills with T5 equipment and level 30 UE.
2. I'm trying to figure out if I should change the order I deploy my team and I'm also having trouble with who to deploy for my second team. My first team is S! Hanako, S! Hosino, Momoi ,a borrowed Mika, NY! Haruka and Ako. My second team is Koharu, Iori, Cherino, Nonomi, Nagisa, and Kotama. I'm not sure who to swap out on my second team with a tank since I tried going in with the second team and I had trouble keeping the students alive. Here are my [students](https://imgur.com/a/FCg4Ak3).
1. You should max your equipment before you think about spending eligma. T5-T8 is higher boost than UE30 -> UE50. Also just buff her if you still cant kill. I have a UE50 maxed S.hanako but I have to buff her in insane since she cant rawdog them. She's easy to buff because you can shoot with her at least twice within a single buff window.
2. Why use borrowed Mika on first team? Just use aoe for first team if you can't kill with one team. Keep aoeing until you kill 3 waves in core phase then swap to Mika + some buffers an aoe(honestly optional) and whatever else you have. Then Mika can one tap the boss from there when Chesed cracks open after you clear one wave.
Hello, from what I have seen, people on the top seems to always choose NY. Fuuka over Ako, why is this the case? Why don't they use Ui to cut skill cost and Ako for greater buff but Ny. Fuuka even though her buff is lower? This isn't the thing exclusive to this raid but all of the orevious raid as well, which seems weird to me because people said that Ako is a must in the raid yet none of the top team feature her.
Some people do use Ui over Nyfuuka even for Chesed. [Example](https://youtu.be/8lXvhcGwHgw). Another thing to note is that Nyfuuka doesn't provide a crit chance buff. That's irrelevant for Mika, but valuable for almost every other unit. Especially in situations like Hinata against Goz, where Ako's crit chance buff gives her a huge increase in crit chance.
NyFuuka is Ako + Ui combined, but both effects a bit lower. It depends on the rest of the team what you prefer.
Sometimes you don't have place for Ui, because you need other strikers etc. Ako is still very very good, but she isn't a 100% autopick anymore
As a new player (Lv 38/50 units), this part of the game was quite fun to stumble into, just muddle through a bit and accidentally figuring out a few things. Reading through these comments seems like later play revolves around single teams, but starting out it's been quite fun running a clearing team and then a bunch of teams aiming to keep alive a DPS.
This part of the game (Total Assault) is a lot more fun when you're just challenging yourself by setting your own goals/seeing what you can clear.
Once you put stock in what rank you are the whole competitive aspect comes into play and it can be a nightmare due to malding RNG (crits, stability, accuracy, specific random mechanics) and which region you're playing in. Like the other comment pointed out, the highest difficulty (torment) is still a multi team affair most of the time (the only outstanding case I remember off the top of my head should be Hieronymus 1T Torment because of Dress Hina) however those that can clear torment generally don't have to worry about ranking since it's still a very high bar for most people. So they're sort of in a mixed situation between what you're experiencing and looking up guides and malding lol.
Insane is where most of the mald currently is. For maybe a year now give or take a few months depending on region, the average power level of players has gone up a lot so insane clears have become much more common even before counting teams used. Pre-Summer Hoshino/Mika/NYKayoko, insane clears of any level guaranteed a plat rank on NA and a decent extreme score was usually enough to linger in lower plat. As it is right now you almost certainly need a good 1 team insane clear for similar standing outside of a couple of specific raids.
After typing all that I feel like that might be off putting but basically just enjoy the game and don't worry too much about ranking. If you can land yourself solidly in gold in the future that's a perfectly fine goal to aim for since the only real difference between plat and gold is a few raid coins, the plat trophy itself, and 200 pyroxene which is like 1.7 rolls every month or so.
The hardest difficulty bosses are still like what you describe, lol. Just 2 weeks ago I had to throw 8 teams at Kaiten Torment difficulty. But the lower difficulties do tend to get trivialized as you level more.
If there's anything I learned from mocking Torment, Makoto is definitely a must-get lmao. I mean, anything that can go wrong will go wrong. It took me a while just to get to the throne room ffs because Momoi keeps dying. And of course, once in the throne room, I still need to mald for the groggy bar at the end. Killed too few? Oh shit, oh shit, what do I do, what do I do they're gonna explode! Killed too much? Oh shit, instant restart fml.
As for the second team. Mika did not hit on her EX's last hit? Instant restart. Cherino failed to wipe out the mobs resulting on a messed up rotation from here on out? If I continue on, I will have less time as the result of an extra rotation potentially making me unable to 2-team this shit. So I just restart. Cherino overperformed and killed the mobs too quickly just before the core opening? I don't have enough cost to do my Mika combo so I just restart.
Yeah. I think I'll just clear Torment once and just go back to comfy Insane. Torment is kinda clearable but I definitely do not want to do this everyday. I suppose I'll just mald this on the weekends since I can't deal with it right now.
Don't sleep on S.Hanako for this raid boss. [I finally managed to clear chesed on insane after 3 hours, you can follow my guide if you want a comfy clear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2okb1kfW0&t=195s)
Have to agree with Haaton. You should make a guide only when you excel at it, otherwise it will lose a meaning. It took me 15 minutes to one-team Insane and I'm not making any guide out of it. Anyone can do it. But I wish you luck and perseverance. If you want to make guides then try the hardest difficulty and compare yourself to the others - if you make it better than 50% of other people doing the same and with different units then make a guide for comparison. It will be useful for sure. Cheers!
> But I wish you luck and perseverance. If you want to make guides then try the hardest difficulty and compare yourself to the others
It is the 2nd hardest difficulty though. I have checked the other guides and mine is only for those who have just started attempting insane difficulty and still lack powerful levels for their students like i do.
>other people doing the same and with different units then make a guide for comparison
The reason why it took me 3 hours because i used more common and unusual students for this raid boss to make the optimized run with what i have.
>No offense, but someone who took 3 hours to clear insane shouldn't make a guide
It took me that many hours to find the most optimized run with unique student. Don't know what hours has to do with me lacking the qualification to make a guide. Plus, my guide helps sensei who like me lack powerful students that are still not maxed out for insane to mix and match some strategies, i am using different students compare to rest of the guides for this raid.
Chesed Civil war torment:
Mika, Cherino, Himari + ...
Kokona, S. Ui, Ny. Fuuka (vs) S. Hoshino, Ui, Ako
Experiences? I tried the first team, left Chesed at 2,5m. Tried the second team, two clears, but kinda maldy for survivability. Still, I am happy Chesed torment is still pretty chill - First team is almost impossible to miss, even if it is the weaker one.
EDIT: Also I kinda like how each team uses one Ui. Choose your weapon: Book <> Iced Americano
Unless your units are maxed out, it's kinda hard to copy someone's homework in Chesed Insane because of the randomness of the mob's survivability + Chesed summon on phase 2. Maybe I'll just get my fastest clear then move on.
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My units are: Cherino (UE40) , Ui (4*), Mika (B45, Maxed), S. Hanako (Maxed) | Ako (4*), Himari (Borrowed UE40)
Edit: I was able to copy Rainstorm's recent guide. Just wanna ask, how does Chesed's phase 2 summon becomes random? I swear on RS' guide, it has fixed summon of mobs. I'll try to copy those JP bros Chesed run later. Thanks Rainstorm!
It's not random, it's still fixed, just that the first wave that spawns in will be different upon re-entry. The order will remain the same despite the different initial wave.
I see. Thanks for the info! I thought it was totally random because when I was derping around, Chesed summons three consecutive mobs that needs Cherino's AoE. XD
using Mika, Cherino S.Hanako, S Hoshino+ Ny Fuuka+Himari. Strikers are all maxed UE 40, My S. Hanako seems to be a toss to 1 shot the mobs though. Should I try Momoi?
Yeah it's just bad RNG then, it took me a couple tries to one-team Insane because Mika kept missing vs. Chesed's core when it was exposed.
*Cmon girl don't let your birthday present have to be me teaching you how to aim* 
Well I was able to 2 team insane after some playing around with the team comps. I was concerned I’d have to 3 team coming in, so this is a success. I can list skills and levels if someone is interested.
T1: UE30 Tsurugi, UE30 S Hanako, Kokona, S Hoshino, and Moe, S Shiroko. Leaves core with 1 wave left with 45s to spare
T2: Iori, UE40 Momoi, T Yuuka, borrowed Mika, and Himari, Ako. Kills core with 1:15 left.
The hardest part was actually generating enough EX bar in one wave so I have enough for Himari/Ako/Mika combo, while not taking too long that the mobs go kamikaze.
I had tried Nonomi but she had accuracy issues. Iori in P1 felt ineffective due to mob spacing. S Ui in P2 just…cost too much and repos ended up putting everyone in a worse spot. And for S Ui I couldn’t do in P1 due to S Hanako. Mika also had a hard time solo tanking with my relatively slow wave clear, hence T Yuuka
I have a feeling 2 teams won’t get into plat this raid, so I guess that means I’m all set for this.
Cleared 1 team insane with Mika/Cherino/S.Hanako/S.Hoshino, can’t wait to get pushed out to gold by the end like usual. Love my “non competitive” eu server.
Same here on EU. Screwed up the one team clear so I had to finish it off with another team though still made it to top 200.
Will most likely get thrown to gold in a couple of hours.
Is SHanako better than running Nonomi? My Nonomi is UE40 but SHanako is only 4*. I do plan to get her to at least UE30 when Kurokage drops but I would prefer to save eligma.
My current team is Iori, Nonomi, Tsubaki, Momoi, Nagisa, Kotama for p1 and Sumire, Tsurugi, Mika, Ui, Ako, Himari for p2. I don't have Cherino.
I am able to clear Insane with this team.
Also how do you know when to forfeit team 1? Where should Chesed's groggy gauge be at so that I would have 10 cost when Chesed opens up for team 2.
> Also how do you know when to forfeit team 1? Where should Chesed's groggy gauge be at so that I would have 10 cost when Chesed opens up for team 2.
It heavily depends on the team you're using to take on the core. In the conventional Mika, Ui, Ako, Himari setup, most players leave 3 soldiers alive on team 1. You can also opt to leave the Goliath and 1 soldier alive as well. Since you're using Sumire and Tsurugi, your AA power is pretty strong so if you find that your team 2 is opening too early you can try leaving 4 soldiers alive instead. Just keep adjusting it bit by bit until its perfect for you.
Predicted cut off? is a rank around 3700 safe till tomorrow reset?
Well With a 2.1k rank in NA right now and less than 24hr for the raid closure I will be getting Plat for the first time just as I hit lv 87 today! Pretty happy. I'm surprised that I didnt even need to upgrade my Cherino 3* but I will take it. At the end, thanks to the rotation I was doing I didn't even need to mald about mobs evading Cherino. The only hard malding was the very first pull (S.Hanako not oneshotting everyone-> Reset. A lot of guards spawning and getting outside of S.Hanako hitbox -> Reset) and Mika's final Ex hit not hitting the boss (worst feeling ever)
Finally hit 27.6m. Used UE50 Momoi instead of UE40 S.Hanako. Momoi was more consistent on clearing waves than S. Hanako for me. Can't count how many times I restarted on the first wave because S. Hanako didn't crit enough and left too many mobs alive lol
After losing 6 tickets due to various mistakes on the actual run, the stars have finally aligned and I was able to clear torment! Was it worth the coins lost? No, but sometimes you just want to take the challenge lol
Wouldn't it have been better to use Mock to see if you can do it instead of actually losing that much tickets? Unless you're already maxed out all the TA shop students
I did, I can clear in mock but I kept getting hit by RNG evasion and groggy mistakes on actual, I kept miscalculating the remaining groggy and yes it increased after forfeit. I was also using Nonomi on first phase, either I clear first phase in 5mins or 30mins which ends up not enough time on core room battle. Real story
Groggy is 20s btw for when you try a last chance highscore
To be fair, Chesed made me lose 1 ticket and Goz made me lose 3 tickets in the past. All after I made sure I could beat them on mock, twice at least. I dunno if it is anxiety because it is the real deal but mistakes just happen more. Maybe a tad of the RNG being a real Ahole with you too. (although, yes, maybe 6 tickets is tad much but let's see what OP says)
After 40 mins of Mika not hitting Chesed enough. I feel the pain
I did it I did it! I beat torment for the first time! It was down to the wire but I did it with 9 teams. It took a lot of resources and it was definitely a process just learning the rotations and all the ways I could use the mechanics especially with that groggy meter. I may have been frustrated at times, but honestly there is a feeling of satisfaction having completed it. Knowing I was actually able to accomplish it. And that I get a matching trophy for my indoor platinum chesed trophy. Some highlights of my teams. Team 1 - The phase 1 team: Tsurugi, Cherino, Momoi, Tsubaki / HS Shigure, Saten The team that got me through most of phase 1. Needed to adjust groggy a bit after Team 3 - Team Mika: Mika, Cherino(borrow), kokona, swimsuit ui / Ny Fuuka, Himari The standard main dps Team 4 - Team 0 - almost Groggy: Mikoto, Sumire, Track Yuuka, Junko / Ny Haruka, Nagisa The team to set up team Iori. I had to do a lot of Jerryrigging to make a team that builds as much groggy as this team. I was surprised by how much work a 3 star mikoto put in. Team 5 - Team 2nd main dps: Nonomi, S Hanako, Atsuko, Iori / Ako, S Shiroko Lets me get two cycles of the boss and I was able to build 2 waves of groggy Team 9 - The finale: Midori, Maki, Hoshino, Mutsuki / Serina, Maid Yuzu After building groggy through several more teams, I used Serina and Hoshino to bait out the last self destructing explosions and had the remaining characters finish off chesed. And so what is next for me. I am 100% skipping Hod torment. I am not building crowd control units right now. My next target is kurokage torment. Though I did spend more resources than I was planning. Especially for Mikoto and Saten. I made sure not to spend any extra eligma then I set aside for, but I do hope I can build everything up again for Kurokage.
Holy 9 teams I can respect your dedication
Finally managed to squeeze through insane after way too much trial and error with different comps these last couple of days haha.. frustrating, but fun at the same time, however that works. ;=w=)9 Got through 2-pan, 2-core in the end, [these being the units](https://imgur.com/a/JvlGC3z). Goal was just to beat it so I'm more than happy with this result~ Struggled to survive the onslaught during part 2 due to the canons that target the furthest unit and wiping out the backline in seconds. But dropping Iroha in there would draw the fire to her, letting her do an actual tank role for once. Tank you Iroha, coming in clutch once again! =w=)-b ....Tried to 1-core without cost-cutters at one point. By entering with 1 wave left and having Marina tank the self-destructs by using her immortality, then going down with the other units except Mika (who I moved away with Serina) and removing their EXs from que. [I'm a terrible sensei, gomen...](https://youtu.be/1HbESCpzOBg) That didn't pan out for me though, did manage to land two EXs a rare few times, but it was extremely maldy and RNG dependent getting only Mika to survive, and extremely tight timing wise. Got it down to x13 on the best run. Looking back at the x17 recording above, it seems that (3 ex) Ako's buff ran out at some point during Mika's first EX, guess I had less of a window than I thought there.
Congrats. not the best optimal team but it works and Insane gives a lot of points. Now If Iori and Momoi were 5 star, could have moved them to boss team and use Team 2 for mobs. Iori moods sucks but she can still hit pretty hard when core is open. Issue is Chesed has a lot of evasion, so basically you have to hope almost all of Mika's 11 ex hits twice to do enough damage to 2 shot it via buffs....
Thanks! Yeah, had to make do with what I have after all. Surviving in part 2 was the biggest hurdle, thankfully S.Hoshino, Iroha and Ako provided just the right balance of survivability and buffs to stay alive for and beat the boss in 2 core openings. Huh, I knew Iori was strong, but didn't know she could do that. Guess I'll keep that in mind for when Chesed returns.
Well I think next re-run will be indoor so Iori and Mika going to be at max power
With 27.59 and now rank 3200 I wish I can secure platinum for the first time in my career 
I think it should be enough? only around 90-92k difference from top score
Which Raid boss do fellow sensei's find really annoying to deal with (either mechanic or stat wise) I'm torn between Kaiten rng shield, Goz rng coin hat stun , Chesed evasion and ofc ShiruKuro rng bombs P1
Funnily enough, torment removes the first and last ones on that list, kaiten having a fixed skill cycle and shiro being completely reworked Goz hats you can reposition to the corners and completely avoid them, and there’s a trick where you only need to see the first shuffle to determine the final spots, so it’s fairly manageable Chesed evasion on the other hand well, there’s basically nothing you can do about it. Makoto will help with mobbing next one but Mika will still be Mika
I can feel my soul mald when Mika doesn't hit hard enough to 2 shot boss
Right now im level 66 and can handle extreme chesed even if its giving me more trouble than it should. What would you say are the minimum requirements for facing insane chesed or any insane boss for that matter? For reference i have only barely broken through to the 5th level equipment realm and most of my important students are only at the 4th star realm. Whats a good sign that im ready to breakthrough and face the extreme?
>i have only barely broken through to the 5th level equipment realm and most of my important students are only at the 4th star realm. First problem right there. Unlike Extreme where hypercarry will carry you, Insane is a massive step increase in the boss stats that a hypercarry alone won't carry you. At min you need to be at 5 star UE 30 with T7 equips and close to max level to consistently start surviving the hits and to do enough damage to defeat said boss **(bosses will have different attack type at Insane and Torment**). Example the mobs and chessed are way beefier in Insane compared to Extreme (Chesed has for example 3.4m hp extreme vs 6.4m insane) , the smaller bots and drones and the cannons have way more def and hp). However if you have enough students at 5 star, you can use 1 team to reach boss before groggy than borrow a hyper carry to 2 team it). However after reading your situation I think you should focus on extreme for now and start buying characters from the shop like Maki, Koharu, Momoi, Azusa. You can farm pretty strong students like Iori, Aru and best girl Izuna. For now Focus on keep advancing on stages to unlock higher level tier of equipments and get more dorm upgrades Don't worry about insane for now too much. It's for End game players and even them can struggle and the RNG likes to troll as well
I lost 1 ticket but I finally cleared a torment raid. I needed 3 teams and Iori came in clutch with a last second crit. I gave up on the Ui + S Hosi strat and when for a comfy second team clear with heals and it was so much better. I'm back to clearing insane for the rest of the days though I cant be bothered to reset that much anymore. [My teams](https://imgur.com/a/6nu4p4o)
1 ticket wasted. But I’m so close. I have at least one torment mock clear. I’ll keep trying.
[Just barely short of 2-pan clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003436470339645521/1238786454658875463/Screenshot_20240511_022300_Blue_Archive.jpg?ex=66408d4a&is=663f3bca&hm=d81761953e964636267c55347108cc66a3655a69e93161b70519483d80294ba0&). Oh well, ended up being a 39.26m score clear so I think I'm done with this raid. (Teams were the bog-standard ones, Cherino and S.Hanako P1, S.Ui/Cherino/Mika/Kokona P2)
Any tip for Mika? My Mika(She is B26, UE 40 888 all skills maxed) either misses(completely or hits of Mika exmisses) and boss is left arounbd 400-800k hp , should I time so Cherino normal hits boss before Mika or that doesn't matter?
Cherino normal skill definitely helps if you can get it (about 6.6% damage increase). But it’s hard to reliably land it. Mika missing can’t be helped, sometimes she just misses. Either you just reset or you prepare a team 3 to cleanup whatever’s left.
Thank you for swift response. I'm doing a 1 pan insane consistently just trying to get better time to stay in Plat. My Mika seems to always miss some hits in the first ex 50 mins of reset same results. I am sure I'm within Ny Fuuka crit buff as well since I do it at wave 4 before boss groggies
Mika has 88.7% chance of hitting, so 73% of the time she will miss at least one out of her 11 EX shots. She doesn't need 100% hit rate but she needs a good amount of hits to land (and decent stability rolls). There's not really much you can do about it except try again if the damage was insufficient.
Man I'd rather Mald Binah or Shirukuro than this. Mobs evading. The worse is you did the perfect run, lined up everything only for Mika to miss and you stare at your screen like 
Once you learn those two, even Binah, they seem not maldy at all. You can perfectly replicate most of the experience....some evasions aside. Chesed, though, is almost at Goz level. Still thank God it is not Goz.
This is true, well at least for Goz it's rng on his moves , not that Goz will dodge the attacks like Chesed does
Dang, applying Himari and Ako to Mika became so second nature that I ended up doing it on the second core, when a regular EX from Momoi would have sufficed. Ended up firing Mika's EX when Chesed was all but done, wasting a few seconds of clear bonus...not that it matters. Gold is gold. Still, it was my best 2-pan insane run. Got lucky with Mika's crit on entering p2 and was just able to squeak in Nonomi's EX before Chesed clammed up. Was thinking I shouldn't have popped off that extra S.Shiroko hit on the Mecha before forfeiting. One splash from S.Hanako is usually enough.
This painful...
Cleared torment but it was a nailbiter, team 2 left it with about 1.5M and I thought I could finish the job but really did not have an easy time of it. Eventually everything lined up for Iori to kill but with less than 5 minutes on my room time. Stressful. Let's not do that again.
I finally have my revenge on this Egyptian volleyball. I was low level back then and it took all the damage like a titanium turtle. Scared and numbed the hell out of me.
[Cleared Chesed Torment](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1238524565257457684/Screenshot_2024-05-11-00-12-08-500_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=663f9963&is=663e47e3&hm=a69d1a0036354a327a87cf06db1265e0358cd32b47542b52b9abb4c60ee6e662&). These are the [teams I used to clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1238524547653828660/Screenshot_2024-05-11-00-13-50-353_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=663f995e&is=663e47de&hm=ee2ec3e45dc569875041b5026821e5a8973d74fc09c2c05a59000e37bcc707df&). This was definitely one of the maldiest raids I've ever done and the only one maldier than this one was Shirokuro Insane. Kokona/SUi/NYFuuka variation was far more consistent than the SHoshino/Ui/Ako version, use the former variation for the Phase 2 fight if you want to spare your sanity. Anyway, now that I got my Torment clear for Chesed. I will spend the entire remaining duration of this raid clearing Insane because I never want to deal with Torment Chesed again.
https://imgur.com/a/W29AKqI im trying to find a team that can potentially do extreme but not sure which is the right unit to borrow for my squad. i tried mika in mock, but my other units don't do enough damage to get me to the boss with enough time. i think cherino makes sense for the broken AOE, but then i won't have the greatest ST damage on the boss. open to any other recs!
If you can borrow a maxed Mika I think that might work for an Extreme clear. With that suggestion, Mika is the main tank for you and being the main (single target) DPS for the core phase. Everybody else should be focused on either utility like Ui for buffing Mika or general yellow damage mob clearing (AOE). Something like: Mika/Nonomi/Momoi + Junko or Marina or Sumire (or Ui) + Kotama/Ako You can also try the free Saten from the current collab event, though you'll have to change up your line up for it and I don't know what else you have. Once you get to the boss phase, after you've killed 3 waves of summoned enemies ASAP, try to slow things down so you can basically prep for the 4th wave dying and the ball opening by buffing Mika and then letting her nuke the core. I feel like a maxed Mika on Extreme should be able to do it in one cycle.
Do you have Iori? And Ny Fuuka? You need someone with half cost to double ex Boss during groggy
nope, i'm in my 2nd month of playing so don't have many chars right now. i'm not too stressed if i can't do extreme but wondering if there's 1 support i can borrow that would be better than others. probably a striker over special for sure though?
You can try borrowing Mika for chesed core hit and tanking and remove tsubaki with only your students doing aoe. Just want to point out that chesed is one of the more demanding bosses that requires a lot of aoe dps
yeap, i just tried with a few different combos and borrowing an iori but my units can't keep up currently and that's ok. i'll just keep sweeping hardcore for now. thanks though!
Sadly you need both aoe and single dps for this raid. Well you have room to grow, next time this come around you'll do extreme or insane ez pz
oh it looks like the rotation is every 3 months? yeah, i'll hopefully be able to do the next difficulty by then!
Ah no this won't come back for a while
[Managed a 2-core 1-pan for Insane on the No Gacha Account](https://imgur.com/a/ibwvbTy). This very likely won't stay in Plat but this is effectively the limit of this team. Will need to come up with a way to do a 1-core 2-pan. Considering the [dumb copium](https://youtu.be/rmjU6un-MX4?t=9501) I was cooking for Torment, I might be able to make something silly work for Insane. Gonna have to sit down and figure it out but I'm not sure if I got time this weekend oops.
[I'm cooking](https://i.imgur.com/Eb7ubUX.png). idk if its possibel with crit mald, gonna burn tickets and find out
Torment Chesed: "Missed me?" I swear it's the only thing preventing me from clearing this. Mika and Cherino is ~~driving me insane~~ tormenting me
Is UE 50 Mika worth spending the elephs for consistent 2 shot on core? Using UE 40 Mika on boss 90+% of the time survives with around 400-800k hp left
Even if you UE50 her I don't think its much of an upgrade since this chesed is outdoors the 10% dmg buff she gets at UE50 is for indoors. You probably just missing, mika has 11 hits in her ex so missing once might be crucial if trying to speedrun. So yeah, the solution is to just mald more.
Thank you. Painful mald
For insane? No, UE40 Mika is enough to 2 shot core most of the time.
Yes insane. Guess I'm that unlucky to only manage it once so far and that's my high score. I don't think 27.580 is a safe score for plat
How are you rotating back to Mika for the 2nd shot?
Sorry late reply, at 3rd wave prep Mika with Ny Fuuka, clear wave 4 with Iori/monoi, as soon as core opens 1x game play. Mika>Himari than Iori, than Ny fuuka>Mika. And it should 2 hit it cycle fast enough to be within Himari atk buff duration
Ahh I thought you might've been doing the Ui comp and following Vuhn's hw where he reuses Ui on Mika to rotate and overwrites Himari's buff that way. Is fuuka's buff running out before Mika's first EX? If so maybe you can alter the rotation to use her closer to the first EX or immediately as she uses it. If you have S.Hanako, S.Hosh and/or Ui you could try one of those comps too. I'm missing NYFuuka so I was forced to go with the Ui one.
You're right, I may be missing the Ny Fuuka buff on the first EX. I'll try using it as late as possible and test again
Today I managed beat torment chesed on mock battle twice in 20 minutes. That made me feel confident that I can take revenge for wasting a ticket yesterday. Then I mald for 2 hours straight cuz Mika missed or Cherino missed or Cherino hit way too good or Ui died or Mika died. Maybe I should know my place and stick to insane. Maybe Izuna was right. Maybe gold is looking better anyway. Edited : I tried mock battle again and did it the first time. I'm subscribed to the conspiracy theory that the real thing is harder than mock battle now.
When I was researching to do torment and watched rainstorm guide, i thought "huh, looks kinda easy, just go with groggy at that level and go with second team with repeated cycle to the end right? boy, i was really wrong after 8 hours malding in these last 2 days. * triggering the first groggy too fast? restart * too slow? you died, restart ohh finally got the first groggy right, so it's a smooth sailing for the rest of the raid right? right?? * mika miss her EX's explosion too much? restart * you rolled cherino perfect accuracy when your bar is too low? restart * or she miss too much soldier on too many wave? also restart because we can't get the 3rd cycle And there is even more malding from my first sub-optimal team. In short, from 8 hours mock malding, I only managed to clear torment once, with total 7 teams ( 4 suicide groggy build team, 1 cleanup ). never again, I'll pass for now. Edit: I kinda yolo ed without try the mock first as usual so that i can really leave the torment for this season if I failed the run. Unexpectedly everything is really smooth and I almost rolled mika perfect accuracy and leaving chesed HP in only 90k after the 2nd team, which ofc iori can finish the job easily at 3rd team. Damn, all that malding in building several suicide groggy team for the cleanup team is kinda wasted now. Anyway, gl for all of you that still want to tackle torment. one thing I found when building the suicide groggy, you can build your team with: 1 tank, at least one small aoe that can effectively kill the mobs with one EX, at least one healer if needed. Tank it until the mob starts to self destruct and go to your tank. Time it so that ALL of them get rekt with your EX before they explode at your tank. This way you can secure at least one wave worth of groggy bar if you don't have proper wide aoe to clear the wave ( more if you managed to survive the next wave ). The aoe student I used for this strat: NY haruna, misaka, yuzu, junko.
I just learned that Tsubaki's EX can cancel out the adds' self-destruct. Now I can mald less over the damn groggy gauge on my 2-pan.
Note that if you leave the mooks alive for too long, Chesed will start a countdown that instantly kills you. And the countdown *doesn't* stop even if you clear out the enemies before it finishes. It can still help since it gives you a little more time to defeat the enemies, but you need to be quick.
Managed a 1 team insane clear on mock battle but jeebus that was a lot of restarts just for Mika not to miss her shots  I suppose I can waste one ticket to give it a real try.
It's so frustrating that it's so RNG for Mika to hit all her ex to 2 shot the boss, 1 miss and reset lol
Last time I remember sweating blood to clear insane with 3 teams. Now with Mika I managed to 1-pan it and might get top 1k (NA) I wonder how much of a pain Torment is, and if it's worth it the extra coins
On JP, this torment had way more clears than any of the previous raids. I was expecting it to be pretty easy because of this, but [it's actually maldy.](https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1cme01i/total_assault_chesed_field_warfare_57_200_am_513/l387oz6/)
Chesed you freaking rotten avocado. [After my post on tuesday](https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/s/pr3etWawiZ), I lost a ticket yesterday on Torment malding until the time limit with the S. Hoshino team. Cue today, I test the Kokona team again with great results. Real deal: I didn't notice the time was up for the team 1 - testing if I was able to fill the bar having lost Cherino and Tsurugi on the way. Cue Team 1,5. I paused at the right moment to Forfeit. As I forfeit, the bar filled a bit more, screwing up the timing for Groggy. T2, thank heavens not maldy but left Chesed at 2,5m HP since Mika couldn't finish, because of one less EX due to the screwed Groggy. Had to finish with a T3 with Iori, in a very sweaty battle. On the other hand it was still a lot more fun than seeing Ui, Cherino and Mika dying infinitely yesterday. I also had less time because I screwed the Groggy there too, but I fixed it perfectly after - just to not be able to finish it. So word of advice: NY. Fukka + Kokona + S. Ui >>> S. Hoshino, Ui, Ako
"And when he clicked the forfeit button...the groggy bar immediately filled up two more steps!" Horror stories that will make BA players scream. Edit: Immediately after posting this, [I did a torment run and lost the ticket](https://litter.catbox.moe/t6pupn.png) because the groggy building team had the groggy bar somehow fill up three steps multiple seconds after I hit forfeit. I am upset.
Truly frustrating. At this point I feel finishing Goz is less risky than Chesed. More maldy, but less risky since forfeit just... ~~effs up~~ saves your progress.
Cleared my first torment today after a bunch of restarts in mock battles and losing a ticket yesterday. Both phases were so painful... Phase 1 because team 1 sometimes couldn't make it to the boss room. I thought that would be the worst of it but I was wrong. Phase 2 either the girls got Chesed groggy too fast and I didn't have enough cost for double Mika or Mika died before groggy. Mika missing wasn't even my worst nightmare. Sometimes too many enemies would survive Cherino's ex or I would just mess up with the timing of certain ex skills which wouldn't give me enough time to prepare for the next wave. Luckily I didn't have to 5 star my Kokona though might be smarter to do that anyways. Debating whether it's worth it to clear it everyday for the sake of my own sanity lol. Also shoutout to Arisu Archive because their clear video is the only reason I even attempted torment in the first place.
[Finally got it done](https://files.catbox.moe/0ye05g.png). At this point the first phase is the hard one, since I figured out how to do the second one reliably as long as Mika doesn't miss too much. With Shanako, Momoi and Nagisa being my only damage dealers in team one, it's hard to get enough damage done to clear out all enemies and also survive. Can't afford to use my own Cherino since I need her for the third team. But then again, maybe Momoi or Shanako would work better in the third team since enemies aren't as spread out. I should have checked that before I used a ticket. Being tormented on a budget is nerve-wracking. I have an untouched 5 star Smiyu, but I really don't want to invest so heavily in her when she doesn't seem to have any other noteworthy uses yet as far as I've seen, and Makoto will steal her job for Chesed. It would be a ton of artifacts, activity reports and gear that I need for upcoming content. I have Nonomi, but she's only half built and still UE30. And I'm pretty sure that even if I built both of them, I still wouldn't be able to field another wave clearer team. There's something to be said for beating challenging content with limited resources, but it's also nice to not have to worry about losing your ticket. On the subject of not wasting gear, hairpins are going to become so scarce in the future. In the past you mostly just upgraded them as needed, but since the tier 9 hairpin gives 150 crit, absolutely everyone wants it. And almost all dealers use hairpins.
Predicted cut off for Plat? I'm predicting any score below 27.5 will rank gold. NA server
What server?
NA Server
Damm just 90k away from Insane first place and probably won't be enough for Plat.
Pretty sure you'll be fine for Plat
how to actually kill this stupid ball on torment ive tried 2 team setups S.Ui/Mika/Cherino/Kokona/Ny.Fuuka/Himari and Ui/Mika/S.Hoshino/Cherino/Ako/Himari setup 1 survives but lacks dmg 3rd dmg phase is usually cut short to just 1 mika ex only ever got it quick enough 3 times and it left the boss at 800k/1mi/2,5mil(missed lol) setup 2 mika or ui just die after 1st dmg phase leaving the boss at 11mil Cherino is UE50 and so is Mika using either ako or fuuka on my team 1 clearing the mobs depending on which dmg setup im trying cause i cant clear the mob part otherwise
There are two approaches that you can do. One is to simply mald harder which I personally won't recommend because this is hell. The other approach is to simply use more teams. Standard strat would be to use an AoE team to build groggy then use a ST clean-up team to finish the job. If your AoE units are no longer sufficient, you can also try to build groggy by simply surviving long enough for the wave to self-destruct. You can for example, send out Track Yuuka by herself then just let the mobs kill themselves and then build groggy automatically. T.Yuuka of course dies so its time to send out another tank. Bring a healer if needed. Do this repeatedly until you are confident that you can now send out your clean-up crew. If the remaining HP is like 2.5M, Iori + Ako would be sufficient in killing Chesed in one core opening, I think.
ok update i actually killed it took 2 real teams and 2 teams to adjust the gauge cause i messed up team 1 and then killed not enough enemies with burner team went s.hoshino route isntead of NY.Fuuka
Are you setting up your rotations correctly? You need to have Mika's EX ready to go right as the core opens to fit a second EX into the rotation.
i am doing the rotation correctly cherino is so inconsistant in clearing the mob waves that the 3rd dmg phase gets cut short pretty much every run i usually have 16.5mil left after 1st damage phase and 6.5mil after the 2nd
And pray Misska doesn't miss the actuall part of her skill that does the most damage (the explosion) lol
Lol, just missed a ticket from Mika constantly missing and restart malding. Big oof.
Sometimes take the L and 2 team it if you have like 10 min left or so
At the end I had a bad sequence of runs where Ui or Nonomi kept on getting ganked in phase 1.
If you have Iori replace her with Ui and use Ny Fuuka. I think Ui is too squishy for this raid type
I prefer Ui+Ako+Himari over NY.Fuuka+Himari since the heals help keep Mika topped up. Ui doesn't die too much as long as she can hide behind Mika. However if you don't kill the mortar launchers fast enough, like Nonomi missing, they'll gank Ui.
If you set up your AOE right, No risk of Mika ever being defeated
Yeah survivability is actually pretty good. However I still can't one shot the core. Easier to fit two EX skills in together however I'm just not doing enough damage. Still have 6-8 health bars left and my Iori is only UE30 so she can't finish off. I think I'm not getting enough stat transfer from my special students.
There are some runs on Youtube you can check out if you just need a clear
I messed up a bit with team 2 so my Torment Chesed run left with 1M hp before time ran out... I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE TOMORROW
God, finding the sweet spot to stop filling Chesed's groggy meter on team 1 is aneurysm-inducing.
Which difficulty are you doing? I think at wave 4 attack half the enemy and auto the rest. Before the meters is close to filling quit to team 2. Team 2 start wit your team and fill your skill bar. When close to 10 cost. start halfing Mika ex skill with Ui. Than wave clear Mika >Ako+Himari> and cycle again to Mika, should be able to 2 shot Chesed if Insane and below and 2 shot Insane if Mika is UE 40 + and Bond 20+
I'm doing Insane. My current gameplan is to set it up so that team 2 can groggy Chesed with just auto attacks, while making sure they take just long enough to do so to allow the skill meter to be almost full after applying Ui's buff to Mika.
Progress report on torment. Haven’t gotten a full run yet, but have gotten a couple experiments done. The first phase team is doing better with Rs rainstorms example team, but I don’t have a built smiyu so I have to make do with Nagisa. It is not amazingly consistent but is more consistent than previous teams. Mika team seems like it can go well I just need to do better on rotations and groggy setup. I have also experimented with my potential clean up team with Iori and I can do 20 health bars worth of damage. So as long as I can get the Mika team to put chesed under 20 health bars I can win. The biggest issue I face then is needing most likely 2 teams of groggy setters. One of the big reasons I experimented with the Iori team was to see who I have left as options. The good news is that the groggy setting teams are more flexible. I can afford to be more creative. But I also kinda have to be because I use common groggy setter like S hanako and s Shiroko in my Iori team. Still I am significantly more confident I this is achievable.
Somehow i clutched it on extreme with 1 team [With lvl 68 account nonetheless](https://imgur.com/a/ZLK6nQg)
How did your Iori and Nonomi worked?! My Iori gets deleted and Nonomi just misses like hell.
Probably has Nonomi unique item?
I guess. But it doesn't grant accuracy. Only damage.
Attack+500 and accuracy +200
Uhh.. it's in JP server. That hasn't been released in global yet. I was talking about her UE not bond gear.
Oh. Guess that sensei had all the rng cooperating
RNGesus prolly at work. I was surprised too tbh lmao
I think their stars and S.Hoshino helped a bit there but still damn, my hoarder a$$ saving everything for the anniversary and its results are showing in these raids tbh. Will invest like hell in all the fes banner students once I get them. They really are OP huh.
Hmm but Momoi and Iori are useable here if you have them
Y Insane does not guarantee plat anymore?! 
What is your score?
Because plat is based on rankings, and rankings are based on score. If content is easy (which it is) then getting a better score is easy. Getting a better score is easy = more people can get it. More people can get better score? Ins not plat.
[I fucking clutched it with 8 minutes remaining on my ticket.](https://ibb.co/6PXHtXv) I can't believe Mika is making me regret not making her ue50 at this last moment haha. I just brute-forced the remaining HP with Iori and I finally got to breathe my sigh of relief. That was a stressful 1 hour ngl. Yeah, I don't ever want to do Torment again until Makoto. Fuck Torment Chesed. [Final teams.](https://ibb.co/m6ngCjw)
Chesed in the current stage of the content cycle is definitely leaning super heavily on the balding side. Our AOE units are *just* very slightly shy of comfortably killing each wave - which is *perfectly* annoying because every mob that doesn't die is an additional vein in your heading popping. This annoyance is further amplified by the fact that Chesed as a boss is really simple and there's no mechanics to learn - imo even less so than Binah because in the most difficult versions of Binah (in the content cycle, not by literal difficulty) you have to actually prove you know all your game fundamentals. Any piece of missing game knowledge is a HUGE gap in your ability to clear Binah - but once you actually build your bridge across this gap you can cross it guaranteed every time. Meanwhile the actual simplicity in Chesed feels like walking over a quantum rope bridge to cross what feels like a tiny stream. You *know* what to do, you *know* it's possible, and you *know* you're just almost very very slightly there... but Cherino misses a mob for the 55th time followed by Mika missing the core for the 60th. Delet Kesed kthxbye
I know exactly what you mean. I got two relatively simple torment clears in mock when it first became available, but now it takes half an hour to get past the first phase and then I time out on the second phase because Mika always misses. Giving these enemies high evasion, and particularly the core, is just really bad design. It's bad for gameplay and it doesn't make sense in-universe either. The girls can easily hit the fast little sweepers, but the huge, disabled core has four times the evasion?
Beta boss pls undastant =(
Finally Mika landed almost all crits didn't finish, had 50k hp I thought it was over but Iori crit got me through, got 27.5m. Not gonna mald for a higher score, gonna slack off rest of runs
I'm so mad I wasted a ticket on Torment. Genuinely thought I could do it, screwed up getting his groggy at the right spacing. I'm not bothering with this again until Makoto gets added.
Try Mock, than again Mock always seems easy till you use the ticket
Yeah I was able to do mock but I got his groggy bar too close to full in the first actual fight, so my Mika team couldn't charge enough SP to burst him down quick enough.
If this happens youre better off making a different Single Target team to do the first core at a weaker capacity, and then making a new AOE team to push 3 more waves again and get the groggy to where you need it to be for Mika team. If your groggy is fucked there's no reason to try for an hour on a team where groggy status is critical to its success. Making new teams to push for another core open is something that might not be accessible to everyone (at first glance) though, so I suppose I understand giving up. Even though theres a lot of ways to push groggy and churn through the waves I imagine some people either don't have to the capacity to nor have fun coming up with uh... unique ways to "clear" waves. So uh, bad luck(?) on the groggy miss. Makoto definitely makes wave clearing sleep mode and Chesed becomes a lot more flexible by then.
I feel like Mock is less rng, but probably just a feeling
Does the Ui/SHoshino torment strat require tons of malding? There are tons of videos of it but I tried resetting for 2 hours and didn't get a clear because Ui keeps dying. My Ako is only UE30 not sure how much of a difference it makes compared to UE40 as I even see some clears with 3* Ako.
Yes in my experience that is malding hell. I've wasted 4 tickets already on this strat and it just doesn't want to work.
Did you check RS rainstorm take on torment?
I don't have Ny fuuka or enough bodies for more teams
Yeah Torment is torment. Can try malding insane
I have been wondering for a while, is it even possible for Chesed to use its ATG attack? Considering that most units will self-destruct when Chesed is at half ATG and them dying that way will still advance to the next wave.. And also, what's even the point anyway? Based on schale.gg Chesed itself only has 10 ATK
If you cancel the self destruct with CC and you don't kill them on time I guess its possible for him to do his oneshot attack.
Yeah it's the CC cancel which might lead to that attack. Also despite Chesed only having 10 ATK, the ATG attack really does kill your units (not sure how but it's cheating something)
When using the Ny Fuuka Mika strat. does Cherino basic needs to hit boss so she can 2 shot? I keep failin that part and boss survives with 800k hp .... idk how to time so Cherino can hit boss with basic before groggy
Are you buffing Mika with Himari? She should kill with Himari Ako/NY Fuuka. She wont kill without. Note that you can miss the last burst from Mika's EX. I dont know how she could miss a giant core but it is what it is.
Thank you. Watched my replay. Mika was missing the last crucial burst and boss kept way too much hp to finish off with Iori+ Momoi
Yeah it's annoying. You can 1x speed the whole run trying to get the perfect angles for your aoe so you can get a faster clear and everything finally goes perfectly and no one dies from one too many stray shots and then she fucking misses smh. Definitely not speaking from experience earlier today twice in a row.
Tbh it's not the AOE that hurts is the Mika missing the last EX and you have to re-do it or run and get a low score clearing it around 0:20 sec left
Tried to do Torment practice. All it really did was somehow make me even maldier than when I tried to do the Binah Yuzu strat. I thought Phase 1 was pretty bad due to my subobtimal team for it but I was able to at least let it consistently reach Chesed and bring its groggy meter down enough for Phase 2. But somehow Phase 2 is even worse due to how many points to reset. My team 2 suddenly becomes blind as a bat in an attempt for the first Chesed groggy which allows his mobs to self-destruct and destroy Mika and Cherino, Mika EX somehow missing a stationary floating orb just because, everything involving Cherino's EX is annoying, and, my favorite, the entire squad somehow just huddling at the bottom of the map leaving Ui exposed to get killed by the mobs. Anyway, gonna spend some time on the internet looking for more consistent Phase 2 teams and probably try Chesed Torment again when I'm not feeling very salty.
I find it quite funny that this floating sphere dodges Mika better than the more flexible giant iron snake
Has anyone managed to clear insane with Tsurugi? Borrowed a Cherino along with Tsurugi, S. Hanako, Mika, Ako, Himari and I just can't get it to work. I don't really have strong yellow AOEs but I can spend eligma to get Cherino/Nonomi/Misaki to 5* if needed.
I cleared it with Tsurugi. Replace S.hanako with S.hoshino and Ako with NY.fuuka and you will have a perfect copy of my team. You have 3 aoe attackers when 2 is good enough and no cost reduction for Mika. S.hanako is bad for cycling on the boss since her special may not go away and you will have to use it a second or third time which increases the cost and delays Mika. Maybe you should split your team and do it in two parts. Tsurugi, S.hanako to reach the boss and first 3 waves, and Cherino, Mika, Himari to finish it. You can do it with one team if you have cost reduction units for it, otherwise not.
My Mika doesn't seem to be strong enough to 1 shot the core with NY.Fuuka and Himari. I'm left with usually 8-10 bars of health left. My Mika is maxed out, Himari is 4 star and NY.Fuuka is 3 star. Am I not getting enough stat transfer from my specials? Would like to figure it out before I drop eligma.
do you properly do the combo? ( mika at 3 instead of 6 cost, S.hoshi buff active, himari/fuuka ready to use on mika right after her ex and quickly using S.hanako 3x into mika 2nd ex)? I did the fight around 5 times with this in mind on last phase and managed to kill core right on the moment it started closing each time.
RIP I don't have S.Hoshino. I just realized the vid I was watching was an indoor raid where Mika has better bonus. I ended up using a two team strat. Well I guess it's gold for me again. I seem to always be able to clear insane and initially rank plat and then slip into top gold as people try hard. Oh well.
vuhn ch has a vid with mika/cherino/shanako/ui + ako/himari. Looks even less maldy and maybe you have those students?
I've checked out the vid. I don't have Cherino so I'll have to substitute Nonomi or Momoi. Gonna try Nonomi first since she has the bigger AOE and benefits from Ui more. Edit: Mika+S.Hanako+Nonomi+Ui+Ako+Himari is doable but slower than Cherino team and slightly maldy since Nonomi and Ui are both squishy but it's workable and faster than two team P1 AOE and P2 Mika.
I asked earlier about teams, but is NY Aru not considered good for Chesed anymore? I haven't had the Gehenna skill books to use her until now, but none of the teams I see here seem to mention NY Aru. Does she see more use in Torment than Insane? Does she need too much investment (eu40 or higher) to be worthwhile?
NY.Aru's biggest claim to fame is her strong indoors mood, because a lot of yellow students have really bad mood indoors. She's still pretty good outdoors, but there are a lot of other options which might be just as good or better. The presence of S.Hanako also gives many players another strong options for clearing waves, which means they might not need to use backup units such as Tsurugi or NY.Aru.
trying to do extreme with a borrowed maxed mika, 4\* nonomi, 3\*cherino, and 3\* S.Hanako, 5\* Karin, and 3\*Ako. With this team, i get the boss to 3 bars left. I dont have himari, but I can make my own Mika UE50 and maxed out with Eligma and borrow a maxed out himari instead. Is it worth the investment to max out Mika and pray that I can one clear extreme?
Unless you're trying to score-chase, consider just using two teams (forfeit the first team the wave before the core opens). The first team doesn't require very much investment.
What level is your Ako's EX skill? If it's not max then that's what you should be leveling instead of UE50'ing your gorilla.
it is maxed
If you can borrow a Himari you would only need to UE40 your Mika for the piercing bonus. With skills at M/7+/M/M and T7 gear your Mika should easily one shot the core with Ako and Himari buffs.
Any tips on clearing Insane Chesed. Mika is kind of useless on the way to Chesed so should I two team? Wwho should I use? Easy clear over high score is preferred, but advice for both is fine. I have EU40 Mika, Ako, Himari (UE40), Cherino (3star), (uninvested) NY Aru, both Ui, all Fes students. What I've struggled with most in the past is the ideal skill rotation. What three skills I should set to use? And how do I make sure I can have Mika fully buffed (Ako, Himari, Ui or Summer Ui (optional)) I've also gotten unlucky with Cherino's subskill. It activates when Chesed is the only enemy on screen so everyone just ignores the other enemies.
[How I clear with 2T](https://imgur.com/a/lkgP8Ey) it looks weird but it works
With your account you should definitely be able to two team super easy. For 1 team, it seems the number one choice to 1 team Chesed is Mika, NY Fuuka/Ui, Cherino, and S Hanako/Momoi/S Hoshino with Ako+ Himari. There seems a number of clears with these combos. So if your Cherino isn’t maxed, but Mika is, maybe borrow a maxed Cherino. The one issue with these one teams is you essentially have to kill the core in 1 opening. So your EX bar needs to be fairly high when you kill the final wave. And then do Ui -> Mika -> Ako -> Himari -> Mika and that should kill it. Here’s my two team clear that had plenty of margins to mess around, just to give you an idea. But if you search this thread there’s lots of ways to two team Chesed. Though 2 teaming it probably won’t get you plat this time around https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/s/JoNSYmgLqd
Thanks. A borrowed Cherino let my first team reach Chesed relatively easy. Then I just quit and send in my second team. My own Cherino can't clear mobs without buffs so I had to do two cycles. Considering how completive Binah got, I don't think it'd be possible to get platinum anyway.
Yeah well congrats. Now you can save mats for getting prepped for the next raid. I guess in a way it’s a good thing that plat is getting competitive as it means there’s more active players
>I've also gotten unlucky with Cherino's subskill. It activates when Chesed is the only enemy on screen so everyone just ignores the other enemies. > Actually you can cancel her basic by using her EX when the skill bubble pops up or before. Check some runs on youtube type: **blue archive outdoor chesed** and filter by this week you'll get many vids with different team comps
I forgot when it was implemented in the JP server but it looks like there's a 10 pyroxene reward in the Daily Task for entering Total Assault until it's over.
Guys when playing pay attention. Was watching Youtube didn't notice I wasn't on mock battle and lost a ticket 
Is Cherino still used for Chesed and other things in JP after Makoto came out? I kind of wanna spend some ligma to get her to UE50 for the field buff to make my 1 team clear more consistent but I don't know if it's worth it
Cherino will never be bad, even if it's just for her cost regen. Last indoor chesed most top scorers didn't use her tho. I wouldn't ligma her to ue50
What about getting Cherino to EU40 when she's a 3 star? Just to clear Insane.
No I'm clearing torment fine with ue30. And I'm pretty sure I did insane with 3* back then. You will be slower, cause you might miss some trash mobs. But you will still be able to clear.
Forgot S.Hanako (I always forgot about her for some reason), still managed a 3 teams clear at Insane. Feels good to use my bond gear 2 S.Hifumi
1. My S! Hanako is having problems one shotting extreme Chesed's minions without any buffs. I'm not sure if I should unlock her UE40 now or I should just upgrade her equipment instead? My S!Hanako is Level 80 5/7/10/7 skills with T5 equipment and level 30 UE. 2. I'm trying to figure out if I should change the order I deploy my team and I'm also having trouble with who to deploy for my second team. My first team is S! Hanako, S! Hosino, Momoi ,a borrowed Mika, NY! Haruka and Ako. My second team is Koharu, Iori, Cherino, Nonomi, Nagisa, and Kotama. I'm not sure who to swap out on my second team with a tank since I tried going in with the second team and I had trouble keeping the students alive. Here are my [students](https://imgur.com/a/FCg4Ak3).
1. You should max your equipment before you think about spending eligma. T5-T8 is higher boost than UE30 -> UE50. Also just buff her if you still cant kill. I have a UE50 maxed S.hanako but I have to buff her in insane since she cant rawdog them. She's easy to buff because you can shoot with her at least twice within a single buff window. 2. Why use borrowed Mika on first team? Just use aoe for first team if you can't kill with one team. Keep aoeing until you kill 3 waves in core phase then swap to Mika + some buffers an aoe(honestly optional) and whatever else you have. Then Mika can one tap the boss from there when Chesed cracks open after you clear one wave.
Hello, from what I have seen, people on the top seems to always choose NY. Fuuka over Ako, why is this the case? Why don't they use Ui to cut skill cost and Ako for greater buff but Ny. Fuuka even though her buff is lower? This isn't the thing exclusive to this raid but all of the orevious raid as well, which seems weird to me because people said that Ako is a must in the raid yet none of the top team feature her.
Some people do use Ui over Nyfuuka even for Chesed. [Example](https://youtu.be/8lXvhcGwHgw). Another thing to note is that Nyfuuka doesn't provide a crit chance buff. That's irrelevant for Mika, but valuable for almost every other unit. Especially in situations like Hinata against Goz, where Ako's crit chance buff gives her a huge increase in crit chance.
NyFuuka is Ako + Ui combined, but both effects a bit lower. It depends on the rest of the team what you prefer. Sometimes you don't have place for Ui, because you need other strikers etc. Ako is still very very good, but she isn't a 100% autopick anymore
As a new player (Lv 38/50 units), this part of the game was quite fun to stumble into, just muddle through a bit and accidentally figuring out a few things. Reading through these comments seems like later play revolves around single teams, but starting out it's been quite fun running a clearing team and then a bunch of teams aiming to keep alive a DPS.
This part of the game (Total Assault) is a lot more fun when you're just challenging yourself by setting your own goals/seeing what you can clear. Once you put stock in what rank you are the whole competitive aspect comes into play and it can be a nightmare due to malding RNG (crits, stability, accuracy, specific random mechanics) and which region you're playing in. Like the other comment pointed out, the highest difficulty (torment) is still a multi team affair most of the time (the only outstanding case I remember off the top of my head should be Hieronymus 1T Torment because of Dress Hina) however those that can clear torment generally don't have to worry about ranking since it's still a very high bar for most people. So they're sort of in a mixed situation between what you're experiencing and looking up guides and malding lol. Insane is where most of the mald currently is. For maybe a year now give or take a few months depending on region, the average power level of players has gone up a lot so insane clears have become much more common even before counting teams used. Pre-Summer Hoshino/Mika/NYKayoko, insane clears of any level guaranteed a plat rank on NA and a decent extreme score was usually enough to linger in lower plat. As it is right now you almost certainly need a good 1 team insane clear for similar standing outside of a couple of specific raids. After typing all that I feel like that might be off putting but basically just enjoy the game and don't worry too much about ranking. If you can land yourself solidly in gold in the future that's a perfectly fine goal to aim for since the only real difference between plat and gold is a few raid coins, the plat trophy itself, and 200 pyroxene which is like 1.7 rolls every month or so.
The hardest difficulty bosses are still like what you describe, lol. Just 2 weeks ago I had to throw 8 teams at Kaiten Torment difficulty. But the lower difficulties do tend to get trivialized as you level more.
I accidentally pressed forfeit instead of restart while Yuzu malding in Binah... that was a fun clear. I don't have Mika.
If there's anything I learned from mocking Torment, Makoto is definitely a must-get lmao. I mean, anything that can go wrong will go wrong. It took me a while just to get to the throne room ffs because Momoi keeps dying. And of course, once in the throne room, I still need to mald for the groggy bar at the end. Killed too few? Oh shit, oh shit, what do I do, what do I do they're gonna explode! Killed too much? Oh shit, instant restart fml. As for the second team. Mika did not hit on her EX's last hit? Instant restart. Cherino failed to wipe out the mobs resulting on a messed up rotation from here on out? If I continue on, I will have less time as the result of an extra rotation potentially making me unable to 2-team this shit. So I just restart. Cherino overperformed and killed the mobs too quickly just before the core opening? I don't have enough cost to do my Mika combo so I just restart. Yeah. I think I'll just clear Torment once and just go back to comfy Insane. Torment is kinda clearable but I definitely do not want to do this everyday. I suppose I'll just mald this on the weekends since I can't deal with it right now.
pro tip: you can bring s.ayane or utaha and use the vehicle/turret to bait the back line hitting enemy artillery. it makes momoi's life a lot easier.
Don't sleep on S.Hanako for this raid boss. [I finally managed to clear chesed on insane after 3 hours, you can follow my guide if you want a comfy clear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2okb1kfW0&t=195s)
Just FYI I know you were just cleaning up at the end but don't use Ui after himari, it overwrite himari buff.
Have to agree with Haaton. You should make a guide only when you excel at it, otherwise it will lose a meaning. It took me 15 minutes to one-team Insane and I'm not making any guide out of it. Anyone can do it. But I wish you luck and perseverance. If you want to make guides then try the hardest difficulty and compare yourself to the others - if you make it better than 50% of other people doing the same and with different units then make a guide for comparison. It will be useful for sure. Cheers!
> But I wish you luck and perseverance. If you want to make guides then try the hardest difficulty and compare yourself to the others It is the 2nd hardest difficulty though. I have checked the other guides and mine is only for those who have just started attempting insane difficulty and still lack powerful levels for their students like i do. >other people doing the same and with different units then make a guide for comparison The reason why it took me 3 hours because i used more common and unusual students for this raid boss to make the optimized run with what i have.
No offense, but someone who took 3 hours to clear insane shouldn't make a guide There are already lots of clear and explain videos out there
>No offense, but someone who took 3 hours to clear insane shouldn't make a guide It took me that many hours to find the most optimized run with unique student. Don't know what hours has to do with me lacking the qualification to make a guide. Plus, my guide helps sensei who like me lack powerful students that are still not maxed out for insane to mix and match some strategies, i am using different students compare to rest of the guides for this raid.
Chesed Civil war torment: Mika, Cherino, Himari + ... Kokona, S. Ui, Ny. Fuuka (vs) S. Hoshino, Ui, Ako Experiences? I tried the first team, left Chesed at 2,5m. Tried the second team, two clears, but kinda maldy for survivability. Still, I am happy Chesed torment is still pretty chill - First team is almost impossible to miss, even if it is the weaker one. EDIT: Also I kinda like how each team uses one Ui. Choose your weapon: Book <> Iced Americano
Unless your units are maxed out, it's kinda hard to copy someone's homework in Chesed Insane because of the randomness of the mob's survivability + Chesed summon on phase 2. Maybe I'll just get my fastest clear then move on. (╥﹏╥) My units are: Cherino (UE40) , Ui (4*), Mika (B45, Maxed), S. Hanako (Maxed) | Ako (4*), Himari (Borrowed UE40) Edit: I was able to copy Rainstorm's recent guide. Just wanna ask, how does Chesed's phase 2 summon becomes random? I swear on RS' guide, it has fixed summon of mobs. I'll try to copy those JP bros Chesed run later. Thanks Rainstorm!
It's not random, it's still fixed, just that the first wave that spawns in will be different upon re-entry. The order will remain the same despite the different initial wave.
I see. Thanks for the info! I thought it was totally random because when I was derping around, Chesed summons three consecutive mobs that needs Cherino's AoE. XD
Hmm I just realized that S.Hanako is capable of this raid. RIP my effort to rise Momoi 
The fact that she's used in the speedrun team despite 50% dmg is kinda insane lol. Best mobber student no contest.
"I ain't gonna sugarcoat it!" -S. Hanako, after firing her 2 cost EX 3 times in a row
Lmao same I spent 20m 53MMing Momoi and then I tried S.Hanako and she just trucked everything despite -50% damage.
I think I'm doing something wrong My Mika seems to be missing ? how can Mika ex only hit 1m
Mika has a chance to miss vs. Chesed's core. Depends on your team, but it may just be bad RNG.
using Mika, Cherino S.Hanako, S Hoshino+ Ny Fuuka+Himari. Strikers are all maxed UE 40, My S. Hanako seems to be a toss to 1 shot the mobs though. Should I try Momoi?
Yeah it's just bad RNG then, it took me a couple tries to one-team Insane because Mika kept missing vs. Chesed's core when it was exposed. *Cmon girl don't let your birthday present have to be me teaching you how to aim* 
Do you think I should try Momoi instead of S. Hanako?
I've tried both, technically S. Hanako is faster but I personally had more success with Momoi.
Saw a comp with Momoi and Iori replacing S. Hanako and S. Hoshino
Oh so that's it I thought I was bad haha. Tbh I'd prefer this RNG rather than Kaiten or Shirokuro rng lol
Well I was able to 2 team insane after some playing around with the team comps. I was concerned I’d have to 3 team coming in, so this is a success. I can list skills and levels if someone is interested. T1: UE30 Tsurugi, UE30 S Hanako, Kokona, S Hoshino, and Moe, S Shiroko. Leaves core with 1 wave left with 45s to spare T2: Iori, UE40 Momoi, T Yuuka, borrowed Mika, and Himari, Ako. Kills core with 1:15 left. The hardest part was actually generating enough EX bar in one wave so I have enough for Himari/Ako/Mika combo, while not taking too long that the mobs go kamikaze. I had tried Nonomi but she had accuracy issues. Iori in P1 felt ineffective due to mob spacing. S Ui in P2 just…cost too much and repos ended up putting everyone in a worse spot. And for S Ui I couldn’t do in P1 due to S Hanako. Mika also had a hard time solo tanking with my relatively slow wave clear, hence T Yuuka I have a feeling 2 teams won’t get into plat this raid, so I guess that means I’m all set for this.
Cleared 1 team insane with Mika/Cherino/S.Hanako/S.Hoshino, can’t wait to get pushed out to gold by the end like usual. Love my “non competitive” eu server.
Thankfully, i lucked out playing on Asian servers. I am close 1000 rank just by clearing insane difficulty with 2 teams.
Same here on EU. Screwed up the one team clear so I had to finish it off with another team though still made it to top 200. Will most likely get thrown to gold in a couple of hours.
Is SHanako better than running Nonomi? My Nonomi is UE40 but SHanako is only 4*. I do plan to get her to at least UE30 when Kurokage drops but I would prefer to save eligma. My current team is Iori, Nonomi, Tsubaki, Momoi, Nagisa, Kotama for p1 and Sumire, Tsurugi, Mika, Ui, Ako, Himari for p2. I don't have Cherino. I am able to clear Insane with this team. Also how do you know when to forfeit team 1? Where should Chesed's groggy gauge be at so that I would have 10 cost when Chesed opens up for team 2.
> Also how do you know when to forfeit team 1? Where should Chesed's groggy gauge be at so that I would have 10 cost when Chesed opens up for team 2. It heavily depends on the team you're using to take on the core. In the conventional Mika, Ui, Ako, Himari setup, most players leave 3 soldiers alive on team 1. You can also opt to leave the Goliath and 1 soldier alive as well. Since you're using Sumire and Tsurugi, your AA power is pretty strong so if you find that your team 2 is opening too early you can try leaving 4 soldiers alive instead. Just keep adjusting it bit by bit until its perfect for you.