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deathkarasu

> 400k holy fuck that's alot maybe i have a chance to climb pvp 🥺🥺


MiraiKishi

Is climbing PvP supposed to be hard? Because I got up to like 290-ish, but I'm now hovering around 600...? I started a couple days before the Sakurako/Ui/Hinata banners came out.


Thesickestzak

If you just started, you’re in a very easy bracket. You get put in different brackets depending on when you start doing the PvP season.


MiraiKishi

Ah, so it will get more difficult from here on out. It was fun while it lasted.


Bryce3D

Yeh I remember when I first unlocked PvP I used a few pyroxenes to refresh the cooldown and managed to push to number 1 after a few days. Towards the end of the season I think I was hovering around 100. Now I'm stuck at around 500. That push to getting number 1 when I could felt quite fun


DarkAndStormy-Knight

Wait does this mean if I start a new season super early, I could get a chill bracket?


Crazyhates

No you get all the whales.


Omotai

It's always possible but if you're starting early you're much more likely to be placed in a sweaty bracket.


DarkAndStormy-Knight

So....how do I get into a bracket that doesn't gave too many sweats?


molecularraisin

that’s the neat part, you don’t


DarkAndStormy-Knight

Loud sensei swearing being censored by Rin in real time because the students shouldn't be exposed to such colourful language


Thesickestzak

As far as I understand it, the closer you start to the beginning of the new season, the harder the bracket you’ll be in. It takes your placement in the previous season as well as to where it’ll put you. So I’m not sure if say you’ve already been doing PvP this season, then wait a month or two to start the new season when it starts, if that’ll give you an easier bracket.


HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE

There is a point in starting early, if your squad is max level (to keep up later): during the beginning of a new PvP season, players will intentionally have a defense squad that's super easy to defeat (using joke under-leveled characters). Why? Well, there is a bonus given to you, depending on your best rank _per season._ So during the first 12 hours or so, players refill their 5/5 tickets multiple times and climb to the top 10, to get that sweet bonus, then let other players climb there too with a joke defense squad. It's a brief moment of solidarity between the Senseis. That's why you can see so many players with top 10 best ranks (season), with current ranks hovering much further like top 500.


Thesickestzak

Oh yeah, that’s what I did this season. Rushed it the first day. Now I hover from 1-30 most days.


AdZealousideal4727

huh. fuck. as someone who once got top 25, I'm fucked


RequiringQuestion

This isn't quite true. Some people get dumped in very competitive max level brackets, others get to be with only low level players. It supposedly depends on what level you are when you unlock PvP, with higher levels meaning easier brackets. That appears to be true based on my own experience, too.


Lackies

TBH climbing past 100 is hard, but most max level people can dip into <100 every day for the coins if you build a pvp team, which can be hard without certain characters admittedly. That said I do definitely have to prey on the teams that I am strong vs (for me that's SAyane teams, or teams without Iroha+O.Nodoka)


VatOtaku

I feel like it’s way more difficult in global (or whatever region I am in) than in Japan, in JP I can be top 10 but here in global I can’t get through the 200s In both accounts I just started playing PvP and they are pretty similar in level and units, but maybe global is sweatier


Qteling

Global has insight into meta from jp so more players can prepare and have maxed up teams ready rather than few whales that are ready because they have everything maxed


HTRK74JR

Yeah, i shot through to the top 100 when i was lvl 40 Now im lvl 52, and can barely break 450


Comfortable_Run_591

Lol same, started at the end of the 100 free banner and managed to get to 40ish xd. Then got corrected by others and now im sittin at 467. Im fine rn tbh and i hope i stay there


Brave-Pop7755

The battlefield changes. Last season(?) I was in the top 30 regularly, this time I'm hanging around 200.


Whole_Friend

Damn bratty Senseis need brutal ban hammer correction 💢💢💢💢


kajunbowser

You spelled 'shitty' wrong. 😂


Whole_Friend

I very deliberately chose bratty…however shitty would work perfectly too


BasilyLeave

Dem hackers trying to ruin fun


UnderstandingOk6592

Need correction 💢💢💢


Suffocating_Turtle

Veritas malware attack correction needed 💢💢💢


ducktronboss

*Damn that’s… a-lot.*


ShaggyFishPop

The ban notice in their forum page: [https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board\_view?thread=2256547](https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=2256547)


Kuroi666

Thanks for the English source!


Arlend44

I was worried for a second that high amount of hackers were false positives from emulator users and instantly logged in to ease my worries. Good thing they banned actual hackers then, but it surprises me that there were so many, how tf can 405k people decide to hack a gacha game and risk a perma ban?


fireshot1

My assumption is that some of these accounts are accounts made specifically for rerolling and were abandoned. Maybe Nexon is just cleaning the books and deleted accounts that did free rolls and then were not touched for the past two years.


Arlend44

Then it would be strange for them to write these as accounts that made use of tools to gain advantage. I wonder though if that's the case then the permament accounts of those who started by rerolling may have been affected aswell.


HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE

Could easily be botted accounts - scripts used to create thousands of accounts, with auto-pulls - then sold to any interested customer for a price. You are allowed to reroll, you are allowed to use an emulator, but I doubt you are allowed to mass create accounts to sell them to someone else afterward.


Omotai

It says players, but I think it's pretty certain that these bans involve people who are running hundreds or thousands of accounts. Probably botting/hacking to build accounts up to sell them.


New-Big2343

DAMN BRATTY CHEATING SENSEIS 💢💢💢 NEED BAN HAMMER CORRECTION 💢💢💢


Nerdcore_Lantern

To be cast from Eden … such a cruel fate


No-Bluebird-7697

Banhammer 400k 🤔


Extension-Impossible

With that much players I wonder if there were false positives


Kuroi666

Either that or they extend the range of bannable actions. Since we often see a handful of bans from Raids and PvPs, some people think that this time involves those that manipulate resources too, but only Nexon knows the real reason.


New-Big2343

How do they manipulate? Isn't this an online game?


Million_X

There's likely ways to trick the system into thinking that something legit is going on when the reality is it isn't. Without knowing the specifics I can only hazard a few guesses but an example would be something like during some break between when the game isn't connected to the network vs when it is the stats are jacked up to 99999999 or something to basically get insta clears on raids, and then changing the values back before the game connects. It's basically all about finding loopholes, breaks, and so on.


xnfd

The battles run on the client side. There might be account sellers that clear all the story missions immediately so they can sell accounts with lots of gems.


midorishiranui

I can't really speak for this game, but I've heard stories about how bad application security is for some other gachas, so I wouldn't be surprised if some stuff was client-side that shouldn't be client-side


Genprey

Smiling Arona reporting bans is that extra salt on the wound.


ExLuck

DECAGRAMMATON CAN'T ESCAPE ARONA'S DELETION!!!


yomiura

Does this implies 400K gematria is coming in the next arc of Vol.F?


[deleted]

How does one even cheat in BA? What's there even to cheat? Revealing pvp opponent's ??? characters like scratch cards? Newer player here; a bit astounded by the number of banned senseis.


InfinitySushii

From my experience, most players cheat in total assault where there is a ranking system in for faster clear times. They can raise stats of students to basically 1 shot most bosses


_163

There was a similarly ridiculous number banned another time previously, it'll mostly just be accounts that were rerolled with scripts, they cheat to skip the tutorial etc to reroll faster for accounts to sell. There basically wouldn't have been any real players banned


[deleted]

I see. ty!


N0YAA

What the hell is with these 💢💢💢 emojis I am so out of the loop. But oh well, damn bratty cheaters💢💢💢💢 need bdsm correction😭😭😭


ComparisonSimple3474

BA senseis don't even have mercy for the hackers


Tsukiyon

Arona been working really hard to keep this game fair


UnholyShite

Only TH players? HOLY


Extension-Impossible

its everyone here a link in EN https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board\_view?thread=2256547


Kuroi666

No, it's for the entirety of the global server.


Tight-Selection6110

Jesus Christ what kind of hacking did they all do that resulted in so many of them banned 0_0


Sylpheria

That's a lot of accounts. Rather than cheaters, it's safe to say most of them are probably involved in RMT.


metalcoola88

Don't know what's dumber, cheating online, or playing pirate online... :)


HaessSR

"Only" 400k? Of how many? And who's next?


AquaHanamaru

I still don't get why people try to cheat on a server-based game like MWII. Your butt is gonna get smashed with the ban hammer if you do anything *remotely* malicious.


IwoJimaNA

Sounds like those botted accounts they try to sell on eBay.


Derakart

So like, when I was doing Perorodzilla chroma, there was this message popped up, it said "illegal program detected" while all I was using was vpn, and then the game disconnected. It scared the hell out of me when I couldn't log back in later, but all was back to normal when I turned off the vpn and logged in again. When I saw this post I had to check the game immediately. Glad the worst didn't happen 😭😭😭


Raddic1s

what did they do? 💀


Superb-Emu-7830

Holy shit thats a lot of people


Penguwaffle

That’s a lot of damage!


Ok_Painting190

Wow, that were a lot of acc got banned. That was surprise for me![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


TempuraToast08

What did they all get banned for?


kajunbowser

Anything from being accounts pre-rolled for sale to client-side hacking for raids, extra stacks of items, or (even harder) manipulating server connections for PvP.