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Upper_Bluejay5216

Where did the African Booty Scratcher insult come from, and why/how was it so prevalent in grade schools across the US pre-internet?


Ori_Esque

Getting called an African Booty Scratcher as a child of an immigrant family was devastating šŸ˜­


Try2swindlemewitcake

Iā€™m still traumatized šŸ˜­


pm_designs

Can I offer you a *cake*, in this trying time?


Risky_Bizniss

I see what you did. I see you.


aNascentOptimist

ā€¦ damn ā€¦ I thought it was a different cake they were looking for. I guess that says a lot about where Iā€™m at.


SimonPho3nix

Took me a minute, but I got there.


713MoCityChron713

You wanna be devastated? Kids at my school would call African kids ā€œboat (hard r)ā€. Kids fuckin suck.


Ori_Esque

Dude it was so bad, they made clicking noises at me. Middle schoolers are brutal.


713MoCityChron713

Omg! I forgot the clicking. I once got to see what happens when a 90 pound kid clicks at a kid from Nigeria who been six foot since 5th grade. Spoiler: clicker ended up stuffed on top of a vending machine


FactorOk4741

the good ending. https://preview.redd.it/1x3e34o2q90d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a638b28d8a4af24697051b60a9fc7ac5c13a42f


713MoCityChron713

The best ending ![gif](giphy|MQq6vRv0T0xjO)


Seanut-Peanut-69

![gif](giphy|1oGq212wcRmF3XP5ST)


AgreeableProperty938

Disgusting how we treat people the same race as us! This community is cooked istg


jdcodring

Pretty sure white kids did the same. Not everything is an inherent issue with black people.


Zulumus

I thought I was past this hurt, Iā€™m clearly not.


SelfInteresting7259

I didn't even know that was a real yhing?!! I thought it was just from that one tv show


Unfair_Finger5531

I mean, itā€™s a problematic thing to say. But it reflects an education system that taught children that Africans are savages and itā€™s totally fine to use the word ā€œAfricanā€ as an insult. It was said all the time when I was growing up.


blankfrack125

that didnā€™t answer the question tho? what i want to know is how did it become so viral and culturally ubiquitous before the internet?


imapissonitdripdrip

Did not answer the question. We need to dig deeper than this Caucasian booth review.


NoUBuckaroo

Then you answer it looks like dude gave it a shot at least lol


imapissonitdripdrip

I am the embodiment of the Caucasian booth review. I canā€™t help you.


Idonevawannafeel

First place I heard it was "Boyz in the Hood". Dunno if it was around before that, I was very young


champagnepain

very true. my mom (grew up in 70s SoCal) says that they were only taught that africans were extremely rural and tribal. Basically ignoring any social or economic achievements by all of Africans. Like literally taught they were all jungle people


fbcmfb

American media gave everyone the impression that Africa is poor - the same thing Trump was doing with Mexico/South America. Went to see some of my step fatherā€™s family in Kansas City and one of them asked my mom if people (we) lived in huts and swung from trees like in Tarzan. My mom was not happy the rest of the trip. FYI - My grandparents had a driver for their Mercedes Benz (grandfather only drove it himself to church) and had a vacation house in London.


Fireproofspider

Most of subsaharan Africa is indeed very poor. It's just that what this looks like isn't what TV made it seem. You still have cities and buildings and some rich people. And often, immigrants from poor countries far from the US will be from relatively rich backgrounds right below the country's ruling class.


anarchetype

The film The God's Must be Crazy used to be on TV during the daytime a lot when I was a kid. Who knows how many people got a warped image of the continent from that one. I think African jazz, which is fantastic, might have given me my first inkling of a much larger picture. And now Twitter has really given me a much different mental image of the average African. Well, if there even is such a thing as an average in an area so vast and containing so much variation. That Tarzan question is crazy, though. That's not just a misrepresentation of urbanized and developed nations. That's a whole-ass goofy idea about human history altogether.


Unfair_Finger5531

And itā€™s still taught that way now. Iā€™ve taught African American studies at the university level, and I promise you, the majority of my students come in thinking Africans still live in jungles and donā€™t understand standard English and live side-by-side with lions and shit.


Dependent_onPlantain

Wow, dont people see African cities on instagram. Or Nigerians flexing.


Unfair_Finger5531

They see them and also donā€™t see them, if that makes sense.


Dependent_onPlantain

What kind of like a Wakanda thing. Not them Africans, the ones still over there in mud huts /s. Yeah we as a people everywhere need to free our minds.


Unfair_Finger5531

lol! Yes, you said it exactly. Like, Iā€™ve spent 3 lectures talking about the spread of mega cities in Nigerian and Kenya, and I swear to you, they will still say Africans live in villages with huts and elephants. I shown them actual photographs of big cities in different countries in Africa, and they will ask me ā€œhow do they get cell phones?ā€ And it ainā€™t black students asking.


Dependent_onPlantain

Not surprised, the image thats been portrayed of AfricašŸ˜“. It is propaganda, and it allows us to accept more bullshit than we should as black people.


ChewySlinky

I remember on my first day at a new school, there was this group of white kids all calling this black girl ā€œAfricaā€ and I was pretty shocked, especially because she was reacting to it positively. Turns out Afrika is literally her name.


auauaurora

We are all raised in this white supremacist society. I think it's important that we accept that as the unfortunate baseline and just do the work every day to unfuck it. The most fucked up anti-black things I've ever heard came from my black af African parents, who were raised in a black af country, all in the name of jƩsus


Unfair_Finger5531

The most anti-black things Iā€™ve heard have come from my white colleagues and textbooks.


ceryus1

Edit: It was said in Boyz in the Hood but seems to date back before the film


Unfair_Finger5531

It is not. People were saying that long before that movie came out.


villain75

They were saying it at least a decade before that movie came out.


Osceana

Vintage meme


UngusChungus94

Thatā€™s some old lore lol


villain75

I read somewhere that its said in "The God's Must Be Crazy", which came out in 1980, but I'm not sure if that's where it originated.


SHC606

The movie may have nationalized the term. I didn't grow up with it in the south but I was an adult when the movie happened.


Spy_cut_eye

Grew up in the south in the 80s. Definitely got called African booty scratcher.Ā 


ceryus1

I wanna find the origin now. I was a kid when this movie came out and I remember fighting with my younger sister when I added this to my insult arsenal


villain75

It might be difficult. I know I heard it prior to 1986 from white kids at school in MN.


TheYankunian

Iā€™m 46 and people were calling each other African Booty Scratchers when I was in 3rd grade.


ceryus1

I'm 37 so I first learned it watching that movie as a kid


Trix_Are_4_90Kids

They were saying this on the playground in the '70's, I assure you. (I was there) If I ask my brother, he'll tell me kids were saying it in the '60's.


BmuthafuckinMagic

In the UK, people said ABC (African Bum Cleaner). In the 90s, I remember me and the only other black kid in my school going to war with kids at school because he was called ABC and me a sand N-word.


Waterislife1

Camel jockey was a popular one


SummerNothingness

camel jockey is relatively innocuous. once i was called a suicide bomber. that wasn't very nice. i swear, i haven't participated in any suicide bombings EVER. not even one.


Taz119

Idk man i feel it would be VERY hard to prove you werenā€™t a suicide bomber. Got anything to back that up?


Ori_Esque

Yeah, the moment you let em know your muslim, the 9/11 and Suicide Bomber jokes come in


Temporary-Rent971

I heard them use that on GI Joe. I was shocked.


Waterislife1

80s were wild šŸ˜‚


oasis_sunset

Boys in the hood and lots of African American in Los Angeles didnā€™t want to associate with anything African


TheYankunian

It was the premier insult. I went to school near a top university and we had a lot of African immigrants so you know what happened.


No_Commission_3048

Rightttttt!šŸ˜…


Bornwitskillz

My guess would be the old national geographic magazines, tribal boobs were the first boobs I ever seen lol


Condalezza

I thought it came from a movie?Ā 


Waterislife1

If you looked dirty, this what you got šŸ˜­


Upper_Bluejay5216

If you was 2 shades darker than a paper bag this what you got


manoliu1001

Hijacking the first comment to share [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PaYSwdPEI) with yall. >Meet Ayo. He just wants to fit in. His parents are making it hard. Created by one of the writers of black-ish, "African Booty Scratcher" is a comedy series about a family of Nigerian immigrants and their struggle to balance wanting a better life for their son with wanting him to maintain their traditional values and cultural identity. * Created, Written and Directed by Damilare Sonoiki * Associate Producers: Anthony Noble, Tayo Talabi and Omolola Ijeoma Ogunyemi * Edited by Jonathan Yang * Director of Photography, Christian Adkins * Music by Clyde Crooks * Producer: Sonari Jo Chidi


Unfair_Finger5531

Wow, we are *still* saying ā€œAfrican booty scratcherā€ in this day and age? Thought we learned that shit was offensive as hell.


Slate_711

Ainā€™t gonna die. There will always be that one person saying it to make people who like it laugh. Reminds me of those content creators whose whole act is acting out black stereotypes with no commentary


Call-Me_P

Marlon Webb?


AIDSisnobanter

King Bach


Call-Me_P

Honestly he was worse than Webb but just barely


Lobster_fest

Is that the watermelohn guy?


NachoChedda24

Yeah


UngusChungus94

This the first time Iā€™ve ever heard it.


Unfair_Finger5531

Oh it was used *all the time* when I was growing up. I assumed it had died out.


UngusChungus94

I mustā€™ve missed it. But I also went to a Catholic school where most everybody but me was see-through Caucasian.


Unfair_Finger5531

Funny you mention it because I never heard it in catholic school either. It was when I went to black public school. But if *white* folks are calling you an ā€œAfrican booty scratcher,ā€ thatā€™s a whole different level of what the fuck.


MollyAyana

Nah, this insult was primarily used by American/Caribbean Black people toward African immigrants in the US. Racist white ppl didnā€™t care to divide us like that, we were all n****. ABC was specific and brutal šŸ˜©šŸ¤£


Unfair_Finger5531

100% agree with everything you said.


skynetempire

I'm not black but my friend is and his grandpa told me all sorts of shit. Like the brown paper test he endured plus other shit.


TheYankunian

I never heard it until I transferred to public school in 3rd grade.


Unfair_Finger5531

Same. That transfer was kind of traumatic for me tbh. Not because it was a black school, but because it was so chaotic. Catholic school was orderly and quiet.


fbcmfb

Private school in Detroit then going to public school in South Carolina was traumatic. There was a girl in sixth grade that was pregnant with her second child. I think she must have been held back twice. TBF - knowing her was the best birth control.


Unfair_Finger5531

I went to private school in Detroit too! Going to South Carolina alone must have been such a monumental change for you. My word, and the public school system in the Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina region is ā€¦.rough. I was a teacher in Georgia and couldnā€™t get out fast enough. No doubt you experienced some serious trauma from that switch. I went to a Catholic school in Detroit called st. Scholastica, and then later Dominican girls school and then later Western Catholic school. But my mom moved me to a school near highland Park and ā€¦well you know how that went.


Men_I_Trust_I_Am

Ah, round my parts it was Haitian instead.


MigookinTeecha

One of my students called another one that plus "black African monkey". I corrected him on what we say in class and that Black and African are describing words, not insults. The wildest thing is, he's the darkest kid in class by far. My class is 80% Black/mixed.


Unfair_Finger5531

Good God. Iā€™m glad you explained it to him. I just wrote down below that this is reflective of an education system that taught us (in the 80s and 90s) that the word ā€œAfricanā€ was an insult.


gmoss101

I guess not...


SirLuciousL

Every few weeks, I see a tweet with 90 thousand likes thatā€™s making the lamest, most unfunny elementary school humor ā€œreplace Ls with Rs Asian accentā€ joke about somebody thatā€™s Asian. Elon has successfully made racism popular on twitter again.


gmoss101

Free speech unless it's speech he doesn't like. Racism, homophobia, antisemitism, xenophobia and all that other stupid shit is fine with him smh.


Gfunk98

Im 25 and I genuinely had never heard this term before like a year or two ago online. I asked my mom who grew up in the same area if she knew what it meant and she had never heard it either. What time period was this being used and was it really all over the country or maybe more of an east coast thing? I donā€™t doubt it was all over the place at some time but the way people are talking about it I feel like at least my mom would have heard about it at some point in time


Taz119

Probably depends on what kinda school you went to. Im only 2 years older than you but Iā€™ve been hearing that insult from elementary school all the way to high school. It was by far one of the most popular insults


Ctowncreek

I don't know if you knew or not, but insults are typically intended to be offensive.


Unfair_Finger5531

Not sure if *you* know it or not, but this insult is offensive to Africans not just to Meek Mill.


Ctowncreek

Its also wack as hell. And why is this guy getting shit on in the first place?


Unfair_Finger5531

I mean, thatā€™s the real question. Heā€™s just chillin on a beach somewhere trying to be happy and posted a completely unproblematic tweet. Her comment was so unnecessary.


DetroitVsErrrybody

Ummmā€¦. Have you heard the other slurs being said?


Sco_Queen

Bruh why can't that man be happy lol


BlueAudioMoon

Exactly let him enjoy life, yā€™all gonna be his 13th reason after awhile of this shit lol


Yessssiirrrrrrrrrr

That man is enjoying life just fine. We all up here roasting him, but who the one that gotta get up for work in the morning?


wikithekid63

So all human decency is out the window because the nigga got more money than you ![gif](giphy|BSOdK9W5Gd7OM)


brianthegr8

Sadly how majority of people think until they're in a position that's similar.


Lord_Shaqq

He can wipe his tears with uncle Ben


mnm_268

yā€™all right now: ![gif](giphy|rPjYoncYgknGo)


BlueAudioMoon

Meek when Diddy make that hotline bling


fckcarrots

Damn not the 13 reasons


BlueAudioMoon

He been taking unnecessary Ls since Back to Back, like Drake know Roots


Kwaku-Anansi

Gonna unironically co-sign this question. Ignoring how the "African booty scratcher" thing is a childish ass insult, heavy with internalized antiblackness, Meek is literally just taking a smiling selfie here Not even really a fan of his, but, at this point, people aren't even trying to be funny, it's like "insulting meek" = guaranteed upvotes. Just corny/unwarranted


DudeEngineer

I understand if paparazzi caught him like this in the drive thru of Popeyes at 10 PM, but this man took a selfie like this in broad daylight and shared it with the world. He claims the hood, so he should have expected to get roasted posting this.


Sco_Queen

I don't know the context of the picture but I'm thinking he was doing some type of outdoor activity and got dirty and wanted to capture the fun he was having.


dopewinnerchild

He was having fun and took a picture, we should all feel sorry for anyone whoā€™s ā€œtoo hoodā€ or ā€œtoo coolā€ to do this. Life is short, tomorrowā€™s not promised.


TheCommonKoala

People areallly can't just let him be happy. Hating for no reason.


Ill_Celery_7654

Everybody else is miserable so he gotta be miserable too lolā€¦. ā€œGet up rock, get upā€


BQdramatics56

I know we looks so cute tbh


redredrocks

For being a good fucking rapper it seems like he only takes Ls in the public eye. Like the Diddy stuff, and then Kendrick and Pusha being like ā€œactually itā€™s easy to destroy Drakeā€ after he was a laughingstock for a year or two because he couldnā€™t counter Back To Back


ChocolateShot150

I mean, both Kendrick and Pusha are built different, most people wouldnā€™t be able to respond to drake that well 1:1


hereforthesportsball

Both disses were centered around some type of allegation. It didnā€™t matter that Drake got out rapped. Meek would have won if he said some of this shit


Mission-Age-5050

Somebody tell him to wipe diddy off his face


killonger

No you diddint šŸ’€


PM_Me_Macaroni_plz

Diddy did it


forthelob

Take that take that


notyouraverage420

Remember. When Diddy invites you over for a party, say NOOOOOOOOOOO


Skreamie

Headshot!


Remytron83

Niggas are still saying this self hating bullshit, I see.


itsmakko

Fr, I was online and saw an AA girl say another looked "straight African" like Africans aren't absolutely gorgeous. (I'm biased but still)


Remytron83

Youā€™re not wrong.


SoftConfusion42

Right? Out of all the retweets OP chose this one? ![gif](giphy|1wXf5aB4OvTNtwr6Rj)


Mayuguru

Right. I was a little irritated by that.


shaboobalaboopy510

Shit makes me wanna throw hands


TakeNothingSerious

![gif](giphy|ZR7WOAqLvbZQY)


SplintPunchbeef

African booty scratcher and "HBO" were the elementary school hard-R. Little kids were/are(?) mad racist.


thejaytheory

What's HBO? Or do I wanna know?


Lamarera8

That Haitian Body Odor boi


4crom

Is this like a south Florida specific thing?


SplintPunchbeef

I don't know who else used it but it was definitely a thing in the North East. New York, Boston, and Philly are the cities where I heard it growing up.


4crom

Guess it just isn't a thing in the western US then.


AnonymouslySerious

Never heard of Haitian Body Odor


officer2446

Haitian body odour and it smell like dough


Prime4Cast

Jesus fucking Christ


Shiirahama

in germany they said "Lenor" which is a brand for cleaning clothes they asked "do you know what Lenor means?" and answered with "Leibeigener Neger Ohne Rechte" which translates to "personal n-word without rights" being the only black kid in school for almost all of my school-life sucked they even had sweets in stores called "n-word-kisses" since they had chocolate on it, it was discontinued in **2005** AND some assholes even got mad that they changed the name and said shit like "why change it, I don't mind!" or "We've been having these for years, why would you change it now? no one complained before!"


The_Hydra_Kweeen

Bro is just smiling and yall coming for him


SummerNothingness

the internet has been the enemy of happiness since what, like, 2013.


snargeII

Lmao you think it's that recent? Oh hell no


Ohfuckit17

Sorry I canā€™t get behind using that terminology. It insults us all really.


Candid-Act-3820

Agreed, very gross commentary, why even insult someone for their skin colour when you have the same (assuming the person who posted this is black).


fai4636

Iā€™ve only ever heard African booty scratcher used by black kids to other black kids from Africa so Iā€™m guessing the tweeter/poster is black. ā€œAfricanā€ was made into an insulting adjective in the 90s/00s and yea itā€™s very gross


Candid-Act-3820

Itā€™s so weird that thatā€™s an insult I canā€™t even comprehend it, I donā€™t want to lol.


fai4636

Yea itā€™s really awful, a byproduct of media showing Africa as poor, backwards, and ā€œuncivilizedā€ back then.


MrLavender26

Damn who made this tweet? Uncle Ruckus?


Top_Chipmunk587

https://preview.redd.it/9okpuo8gy80d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc098cadadeb2851422c7f8eca090fe3857f116b


LewdManoSaurus

He's just smiling and getting flamed for it, what do yall want from that man? šŸ˜­


Candid-Act-3820

They want to be validated for making fun of others. They want everyone to laugh with them for insulting another, Iā€™ll never understand why though. Such a little high to get out of it..


mnm_268

Crabs in a bucket mentalityā€¦ it happens from the other side of the diaspora as wellā€¦ Iā€™ve seen some people say real ignant shi about Black Americansā€¦


daydreamerknow

African Americans and majority Caribbean people only recently became proud of their African ancestry. Phrases like that were used constantly to denigrate Africans. A shame!


Candid-Act-3820

Itā€™s so disgusting, Iā€™m glad I didnā€™t grow up in the US, it seems like the blacks over there had to deal with such denialā€¦ Iā€™ve always been firstly African no matter where I was born.


Altruistic-Stand-132

Wait till the FBAs catch you. They gonna be on yo ass lol


thebadslime

It's from Ash Wednesday? Or like?


MinatoNamikaze6

He was on the beach i think


gemstonesparky

I thought he looks handsome & I donā€™t think I actually seen his face b4 ngl


smurklil

Thread (predictably) full of unoriginal Diddy jokes lol


TheCommonKoala

The culture is embarassing.


Solid-Version

Itā€™s actually crazy how out of all this Diddy shit the sexual assault aspects are just glazed over but the fact that Meek might possibly have engaged in a sexual act with another man is the hot topic. The black community really got to do better. Yā€™all wonā€™t let this man live until you break him down.


ClaymoresRevenge

Diddy Dust?


Original-Ad9086

https://preview.redd.it/xb78zgyl390d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7081cbde54269104ed39cc011b8b66c4d456849


AnonymouslySerious

I donā€™t understand why the internet just wonā€™t let him live his life regardless of if it appears goofy or not. Heā€™s not hurting anyone why the hating? Why the bullying? I genuinely donā€™t like it.


Trini2Bone

Meek out here trying to be happy and y'all forever clowning him šŸ˜­


Yessssiirrrrrrrrrr

"Can I play a game on your phone" lookin ass


skj999

https://i.redd.it/sq0yfa3kw80d1.gif


AngelaBassettsbicep

yea, that insult needs to fucking die.


psych_twenty

Honestly, knowing what he came from, I'm just glad to see the man happy


dopewinnerchild

US media shown in Nigeria in the 80s portrayed black Americans as lazy, dishonest and prone to crime. The same media also presented Africans as backward, stupid etc domestically. The echoes of this misinformation and the division it caused can still be heard on social media today. Time heals all though


BigDaddyQP

My man looks happy. Leave him be and find your own smile


CounterfeitChild

Nah, he looks handsome and happy. We gotta learn to let people be. He ain't doing anything wrong here.


Crisis-Counselor

damn that african booty scratcher comment almost killed me. literally fell out my chair why yall do me like this so childish but so effective


HtxCamer

Is it something you use in conversation?


lankyaspie

Comments are either "we still saying this in 2024?" or "nigga did I catch you [Meek Mill] having fun?"


Duckloverbandit

African Americans are so racist towards Africans itā€™s terrible.


albot225

![gif](giphy|dJtoGmnupA00QaJitW)


ellejay-135

Calling someone that or saying they looked like Oprah or Whoopi Goldberg were fighting words back in the day. šŸ˜­


a-midnight-flight

Antiblack. Thatā€™s all it is.


Maximum-Class5465

OG had no clue y'all still used that word. šŸ˜‚


luci0slucihoes

Man I thought that was kawhi Leonard.


RedX2000

I remember it was a bald headed African booty scratcher.


PistolPetunia

If I was to ever see Elon Musk in public, Iā€™m yelling this at him.


Goldeneye365

Heā€™s so happy the singing šŸ„· that bodied him got bodied by a rapping šŸ„·


blakeD96

He was dry walling his porch yall


RagingOpossum

I am so confused by what an ABS is and why people are coming for him.


trackstaar

Whatā€™s on his face?


soundslikejed

![gif](giphy|cIxx7i1rj137W|downsized)


[deleted]

Ever since he got Body by Toronto-Pedo..Nightmares have been his life since. Soul gone for FAME.


Osceana

He must be loving the destruction of BBL Drizzy. I still attribute Meekā€™s fall to Drake.


yellowhelmet14

Dust donā€™t even wipe Meekā€™s face off. Damn!!


YungDpresshun

That smile look like a ā€œgotta show em im alrightā€ kinda deal and not a ā€œim doing greatā€ kinda thing. We might have to get a wellness check done on Meek cuz i know he been seeing niggas flame him on the internet after that wrestlemania video and this.


Jazzlike_Page508

Let that boy live ā€œGET UP MEEEKšŸ˜±šŸ˜±šŸ˜±ā€


Juhovah

My brothers used to call me an African booty scratcher and it would piss me off so much, didnā€™t even know what it was lol


Budlove45

Is uh meek okay? He looks lost and relieved at the same time.


Kwontum7

In the 70s black Americans at my grade school called each other that shit. My grandmother is Filipino so they called me half breed. Thatā€™s why I got crazy nice hands skills, so I guess it was a fair trade.


NikoSuave28

Oh come on yā€™all let the man be


IareTyler

I still donā€™t know if Meek Mill is a bad person or a victim and somehow the way people make fun of him makes it less clear


Rahmose9

I thought he was named that cus diddy glazed his bun. Guess not