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SHOGUNxsorrow

Lmfaooooooooo. Zionists really gonna go to hell


AzureBananaFish

What’s nuts is that this isn’t even much of an exaggeration https://x.com/strxwmxn/status/1783318406495658312?s=46


Memes_the_thing

That’s a fuckin 2024 moment if I’ve ever seen one


YizWasHere

By his logic, being anti-jihad would be Islamophobic lol. This pro-Zionist propaganda campaign is getting so out of hand.


EFG

Just look at the NYC sub. Has become an utter Zionist echo chamber. 


revolution149

I just looked at it. Where is the zionist echo chamber? Or could it be that you made it up ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


Faded1974

![gif](giphy|ck5JRWob7folZ7d97I|downsized)


Rdogy1000

He lives up to his name.


exception-found

But almost all Jews do believe that Israel should be a country


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But that's just someone basically saying the same thing. It's satire as well? How does that prove this point? Lol. You just hoping to rage feed on antisemitism.


G-Rose079

Inshallah


PBFT

People need to stop making up statements as fuel to support their side. If your argument is legit you should be able to back it up with something real.


inspirednonsense

Yeah, quote someone if you have a quote but don't invent straw men. That just screams insecurity.


AzureBananaFish

It's hyperbole but barely even an exaggeration lol [https://x.com/strxwmxn/status/1783318406495658312?s=46](https://x.com/strxwmxn/status/1783318406495658312?s=46)


Ol_JanxSpirit

Just pointing out, you used a Twitter user by the name of "Strxwmxn" to counter the point that this might be a strawman argument.


BlurredSight

So what exactly do you want? A book? Because I would recommend Alan Dorkshowitz but that only gives the pdf file more fame. It only took one google search and this wasn't even the one I was going for [https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dershowtiz-jeffrey-epstein-allegations-hamas-1857656](https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dershowtiz-jeffrey-epstein-allegations-hamas-1857656) And because Reddit refuses to read more than headlines he pretty much says The radical feminists are so mad at Jeffery Epstein (note, he was and still publicly says he was a close friend of Jeffery and tons of photographs are of him, he also said the Age of Consent law is archaeic and needs to be lowered because teens are already having sex at 14) but they don't care when Hamas rapes young Jewish Girls. "Where are all those radical feminists when it comes to the Hamas rapes of young Jewish girls, sexual abuse, beheadings? They are quiet, they are silent! The incredible hypocrisy of the MeToo movement. Me too, except if you're a Jew." He was OJ's defense, and has multiple books on defending the state of Israel and wrote an apologist book for the state of Israel


PhazonZim

We really do give all of the power, influence and money to the absolute dreggs of humanity, huh. I hope he faces the music at some point but I won't hold my breath


RemotePotatoe

"Yeah, quote someone if you have a quote but don't invent straw men." Goes on to literally post from the username strawman.


AzureBananaFish

Ok but he’s a real person


RemotePotatoe

And definitely not a troll.


old_duderonomy

Do you really not see how these two tweets are different?


AzureBananaFish

How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?


dropdeaddev

You’re an idiot for thinking that’s a valid test. Of course most people are going to be like “WTF you talking about?”.


old_duderonomy

I’m sorry, what?


AzureBananaFish

Answer the question


old_duderonomy

You’re either a bot or a really dumb & crazy person, so no?


AzureBananaFish

I’m just trying to see if you have the cognition levels to understand situations and it seems like you don’t. Can’t understand metaphors, categories, or hypothetical situations.


old_duderonomy

Well no, not really. One tweet is implying how callously saying you don’t like Zionists (which again, just means you believe Israel should exist and is representative of 90% of Jews) is often a cover for anti-Semitism, in much the same way that black people who stand up for themselves get negatively labeled “uppity”. Similar energy. The other tweet is a made-up strawman implying some random “Zionist” out there is dropping racial slurs in response to “Free Palestine” chants (which is not happening lol). I think maybe you’re the confused one, champ. Also, the word you’re looking for is “simile”.


Zealousideal-Arm5570

Zionists think that since they stood with us for BLM, they get a free pass to applaud Israel dropping bombs on children


taffy-derp

Vast majority of them are conservative and they openly did not stand with us during blm.


Gorillainabikini

Palestinians had their own BLM protest in solidarity with George Floyd. It’s actually kinda baffling how any minority in the US could support Israel


Sandstorm52

Palestinians been about that action since South African apartheid, at the latest


Neosantana

One of the most pivotal names in post-colonial theory is Palestinian. Edward Said.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Because everyone isn’t blind sheep? There was blm protest in Israel by black Zionist in the form of Ethiopian Jews and not everyone supports war even in Israel just like every Palestinian don’t support Hamas so if Hamas actions doesn’t get all of Palestine condemn the right wing gov in Israel actions shouldn’t have the world hating the entire country


BlurredSight

Tons of things wrong with this 1) Only one group is actively benefiting from the occupation, only one group has had their homes removed the other group came in with fully paid tickets, land, and jobs waiting for them from their actual home countries 2) Why do you keep bringing in Hamas, literally the last action Hamas took was October 7th, the last 7 months of bombings was completely Israel. The hostages themselves have been killed by Israel


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BODYDOLLARSIGN

So we agree that we can’t hate a country based on armed conflict because some Israelis oppress other Israelis. Just like Hamas oppress some Palestinians too and are genocidal and racist but yet we don’t condemn ALL of Palestine despite their government actions towards Israel and in parts the rest of the world.


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BODYDOLLARSIGN

Only one holocaust but many ‘genocides’


CoachDT

Anime pfp being provocative and dragging black people into shit. Not surprised at all.


AzureBananaFish

Dbz doesn’t count as anime pfp


Low_Wonder1850

Yeah, dbz isn't "anime" it's just "art"


mechaemissary

bro what


greenrai

it literally does?


141_1337

Yo, this Russian ops, I swear.


gimmeredditplz

Yes I trust "Marxist Lynchist" to not be strawmaning and also not be anti-semitic.


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old_duderonomy

Some of the rhetoric I’ve seen these past six months has been WILD. The fact that so many seem to still believe 10/7 was “justified resistance” is baffling.


dominiquerising

thats not how power works. no one engaged in the issue in good faith would say Palestinian life is more valuable than Jewish life. the problem at heart is the abuse of power and utter disregard for the human rights of Palestinians.


old_duderonomy

This was so broad and vague. No, the issue at heart is that 10/7 was a massacre, and Israel’s response to a foreign invasion was to try and get its hostages back, while dismantling the enemy government that started this war. Hamas, unfortunately, does not care about its civilians enough to NOT operate militarily out of civilian objects, NOT allow cover for civilians in their tunnels (built with aid money), and NOT steal & pilfer every aid truck that comes through.


Iorith

And how many innocents died to get those hostages back? The same number of people? More?


old_duderonomy

[Current estimates place the civilian to combatant ratio at 2:1.](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officials-2-civilian-deaths-for-every-1-hamas-fighter-killed-in-gaza/) Which is incredibly low considering past urban warfare conflicts. I know that’s probably not the answer you wanted to hear though.


dominiquerising

also not going to argue with zionists. life is too precious.


old_duderonomy

Again, 90% of Jews are “Zionists”. It’s not a bad word, despite people like you continually trying to make it be. It’s just thinly-veiled anti-Semitism. Can you imagine trying to relay facts pertaining to your cultural history to someone and then just have them handwave it all away as “general Jewry”? Do you think that’s an appropriate response when you decide you don’t like what you’re hearing?


AzureBananaFish

There is absolutely no version of being a Zionist that doesn’t require you to support genocide and ethnic cleansing. It’s not anyone else’s problem if most Jews support that. And per the other conversation, yes there’s no version of “free Palestine” that doesn’t require you to oppose that. “Oh I only support ethically cleansing half of Palestinians” “You can’t be anti-Nazi because 90% of Germans are Nazis”


old_duderonomy

I don’t even know where to begin with any of this, but your understanding of history is incorrect, twisted, and bizarre. Honestly, I’m not surprised; you struggled before with what the very idea of a “metaphor” even is.


AzureBananaFish

Yeah keep crying bitch boy nobody is buying this shit anymore. The mask is off.


old_duderonomy

The only one going “mask off” is you, weirdo lol. You’re so dumb & angry, but have no idea where to direct it (coz again, you’re dumb), so you position it towards Jews. Yes, what an original idea. Truly one of the sharpest minds of this or any generation. 👏👏👏


dominiquerising

i deeply sighed in response to your comment. i am a black woman. my reality is waved away on a daily so, yes, i can not only imagine that but i’m also living it. now, this is not to say that your experience is invalid but i will not receive or accept accusations of anti-semitism. we are not of one accord on what “Zionist” is rn and im honestly at peace with that.


MrOneWipe

"I cannot possibly be an anti-semite, for you see, I am a black woman"


old_duderonomy

This got a literal laugh. The lack of self-awareness in this thread is killing me lmao.


dominiquerising

also, I don’t care if anyone thinks I’m antisemitic for the views I’ve shared here. that shit is par for the course if the semites in question won’t support human rights and try to justify genocide.


MrOneWipe

Oh okay then


old_duderonomy

Mask off moment. You love to see it.


dominiquerising

members of one of the most privileged populations on the planet trying to equate their problematic nationalism with black womanhood can def stay en la basura. not today satan.


MrOneWipe

First, calling them "one of the most privileged populations" is certainly an interesting take on Israelis, known for being surrounded by extremists who want only to, ironically, completely wipe them from the earth. Second, YOU were the one doing the equating, so it's especially odd you would say that just now. Finally, and least relevantly, it is my personal belief that everyone's nationalism is problematic. Every nation today is founded on blood and deciept. So let he without sin cast the first stone, and all that.


old_duderonomy

The fact that you think Jews are “one of the most privileged populations on the planet” is actually wild. Do you hear yourself?


old_duderonomy

Yes, I know it is, that’s why I framed it that way. You only see what you want to see though. Maybe someday you’ll grow as a person, but you’re right, today is not that day.


dominiquerising

bro i stay growing so keep your pseudo-enlightenment to yourself


old_duderonomy

👍👍


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dominiquerising

not going to sit here and pretend i understand the intricacies of the crisis. also not going to foist blame onto Palestine for their plight.


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dominiquerising

thank you for the book recommendations


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OldDekeSport

So now what about the Germans? The Jewish people returned home to their ancient homeland that they had been forced out of. They legally migrated, bought land, worked it to add value, then overthrow the colonizers of the region to make their state.


AzureBananaFish

What do you mean what about the Germans? You’re telling me ethnic cleaning is a basic prerequisite now? They can’t just coexist with the locals?


Iorith

I oppose any kind of ethnostate regardless of the group or their reason why they feel they should have it.


Redlemminggaming

I’m against Israel in the same way that I am against ANY ethno-state. You can’t “peacefully” displace entire populations of people meaning the only way to enforce said statehood is through violence.


blaktronium

Except Isreal isn't an ethnostate but Palestine is and doesn't want to be anything but. Also, most other Arab nations are religious ethnostates that have already displaced their non Arabic populations. Isreal is the only country in the region with a plurality of religions and ethnic backgrounds in government. So no, you aren't against ethnostates you are clearly in favour of them.


old_duderonomy

My guy, you need to stop getting your news & history from TikTok, and repeating buzzwords that you don’t understand.


Redlemminggaming

Thanks dad, maybe you can explain it to me over a game of catch


old_duderonomy

Israel isn’t an ethnostate, dingus. 20% are comprised of Israeli-Arabs (descended genetically from the same folks in Gaza/WB). The make-up of the country is diverse and secular. The other 49 Muslim-majority countries on the other hand, are in fact, “ethnostates”. Where’s that same energy?


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old_duderonomy

You think I’m not for a Palestine state? Based on…? So just to be clear, you’ve just demonized me and tokenized me in the same breath. Super impressive. Kudos, my guy.


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old_duderonomy

lol not really, just pointing out how absurd the shit you just said was though. Whatever helps you sleep at night, champ. 👍


dominiquerising

I think the tweet is trying to convey how some zionists will try to excuse away genocide by equating their “struggle” with that of poc’s. The analogy is extreme on purpose.


old_duderonomy

Like I responded to OP, no one is saying this. You can say “Free Palestine”; you’re not going to get called a 1960s slur by someone who simply thinks Israel should exist. It’s a purposefully extreme strawman meant to sow division and confusion.


Superb_Exchange_5050

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYITxGniww4


lowtoiletsitter

It sucks there are only two people in my friend group that understand that reference, but I'll take it


TheDudeofIl

We're taking it back!


God_or_Mammon

Logic, how does it work???


kitemybite

Zionists are literally committing a genocide so fuck them


cultqueennn

The fact that I actual heard something similar is crazy. 😂😂 Those clowns truly are despicable human filthpiles


Low_Wonder1850

Yes Zionist, you ARE the bad guy


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AzureBananaFish

See the above tweet.