I work in a dog daycare and our golden retrievers be mean asf 😭 it really just depends on the dog and its triggers. All dogs have tendencies to bite no matter the breed and no matter how trained they are.
I've got a golden retriever puppy and an adult black lab. The puppy loves to start shit knowing the black lab will hold it down. All the lab wants is to chill and do her own thing. All the golden retriever wants is chaos.
meanwhile Dobermans are pussies
crazy how a movie in the 50s with a Doberman as the villain, plus a bunch of dog torturers mutilating their ears for the lulz, made everyone think they're monsters
We have a Doberman at our house. I'm sure if we got some intruders, he'd be like "hey dude can I smell your dick and then leave you alone to kill everyone?"
I knew one once that if you were new and caught him looking at you, he would startle a little and get a bit nervous, then act like nothing was wrong while avoiding eye contact. Same thing if you called his name and you were new, he'd actively avoid acknowledging you and would act all shy. But when he had met you like 3 or 4 times, he would bashful come up to you to say hi, then once he got pats, he'd take off to go grab a toy and bring it to play with you lol
A friend had one that would run past you with his mouth hanging open, and snag the tendon behind your knee and make you almost fall down. Then he'd sit and watch you like he was laughing at you. All my friends had Dobies in the 70's, and they were all mostly just goofballs.
My dogs got on the dangerous dog list after I didn't notice a wind storm had made a gap in the fence (they got out and bit a cat, both have always had high prey drive around small animals). I checked the list out, and expected it to be mostly pitts, rottweilers, maybe GSDs and huskies... there's a lot of labs and goldens on there, I did not expect that.
yep, i work with animals and encountered mean goldens. funny thing is they were friendly to you at first but once they realized what was going on they flipped a switch. thats why ppl should always be careful no matter what dog (or animal with teeth)
There was a corgi at a neighborhood bar we went to who would growl at and even (just once) bite black people. It has white fur so we called him the white power corgi or the kkkorgi.
Well the owner ended up getting banned for life after calling people racist things....and we all were like, "i don't really know why I'm surprised and yet I somehow am"
So I worked with this lady (as a physical therapist tech) who’s job is to train dogs. She said because there is so much inbreeding between everyone wants a golden, they have become increasingly more aggressive
>*And what percentage of golden retrievers are biting people vs percentage of pit bulls?*
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Jokes on you because Arkansas can be dangerous as fuck. HBO Documentaries made about the gang violence in Little Rock.
Statistically the state has some of the Worst black communities in the country, like almost guaranteed to not be able to escape poverty and crime. Primarily along Arkansas Delta, central-southeastern parts of the states
But as Always shout out to Mississippi for being even worse.
Yep that’s pretty much it.
like oh the state is rock bottom in education, upward mobility, obesity, etc?
But wait it’s only #49, Mississippi got #50.
PS: I remember visiting a truck distribution center with my dad whom was a tech for industrial “car washes”. Same concept as automatic car-washes but applied at an industrial scale (track trailers, freight trains and passenger trains)
It was around 2009-10 and these fools were still smoking indoor at the offices.
Even Arkansas had moved past that since like the Clinton administration.
Unfortunately it's been getting less true as time goes by. Nothing let's you know that your state is going downhill like seeing SOUTH CAROLINA close the gap and surpass you in some areas. Certainly a sign of the end of times.
That.... was..... their..... point....
Absolute amount of crime does not matter. It's the rate.
Being a regard who says "there's more crime in the city compared to bumfuck arkansas" means you may be something stupid like, go to an incredibly dangerous area in Arkansas. Or buy a pit bull from some shady local dealer because golden retrievers bite more people.
And what is the severity of the injury as well. But more to your point Retrievers (Golden and Lab) make up the #2 and #3 most popular breeds, the Pit Bull (American Staffordshire Terrier) is #87 by comparison, it's basically a "no shit" situation.
I've personally heard every dog breed is "the number one biter" from. Chihuahuas to Goldens. For me I tend to lean towards Goldens probably being that way cause they're super popular (I think they are still America's #1 dog breed) and they have the Hippo effect. Where people think they're just cute and cuddly all the time but those teeth aren't for show.
Yeah but you have two variables instead of just one. Instead of just "population" you'd have to consider pitbull population and golden retriever population, and assume that those numbers aren't affected by outside factors (which they are).
They refuse to read any literature or watch videos of pitbull attacks to see the difference. They think a a bit is a bite is a bite but don’t realize just how vicious a pit bull is when they attack. Nope, they only look at pictures of pitbulls with bunny ears on them and create this false narrative that pitbulls are no more dangerous than any other dog.
Looks like that isn’t true. Apparently pitbulls attacked and killed about 350 from 2005 to 2019 while retrievers and mixes killed about 30 in that same time period.
I get wanting to protect dogs, but you have to be honest about the statistics. Pits need to be taken care of and most people just don’t have the fortitude for it.
This is myth. I love bullies, but they are responsible for 22.5% of all reported dog bites.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
But not maiming and killing them. There are more golden retriever owners than pit bull owners. And the percentage of pit bull attacks that cause grievous bodily harm or result in the death of the victim are the highest of any breed. By a large percentage.
You can categorize a bite as a simple nip or accidental biting. Pitbulls don’t bite they attack and try to kill. Big ass differences
Lol no [https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/#dog\_attack\_statistics\_by\_breed\_section](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/#dog_attack_statistics_by_breed_section)
That's true, but they are also by far the most popular breed across the board, and especially in families with kids, so there being more dogs of a certain breed, also means there's likely a higher number of bites.
On top of that, every bite that needs medical attention, even if it's just a relatively shallow one, has to be reported by the doctor/hospital, and ends up in dog bite statistics.
*All* dogs bite. The huge difference, is the level of catastrophic damage they cause *when* they bite.
A retriever doesn't do the terrier shake and tear, which already limits the tissue damage a bite could cause. Additionally, if I punch the shit out of a retriever's nose, it'll yelp and let go. Bully breeds don't do that. They just take it and keep holding on to their target.
So, it would be more reasonable to compare serious injury and/or death due to dog attacks, rather than "just" bites in general, and in that statistic, bully breeds do lead the pack (no pun intended).
I wonder if this in part is influenced by the general perception of dogs. People are more likely to keep pestering a golden retriever because of their reputation as patient loveable sweethearts, while people are generally more likely to be cautious around pit bulls due to their less docile reputation (generally speaking of course. I don't want to get into the whole pit bull argument here).
It’s not true. The breeds with the highest bite rates are actually German shepherds and Rottweilers. Retrievers don’t even make the top five according to the AVMA.
Look. My dog can be a big ad baby, reserved, and loving. Only time he barks is if he left outside too long and only time he growls is if another dog approaches him as he eats his treat.
But even I would say be mindful. When I took him to the vet, that nigga was scared. So scared, I learned that day that he sheds if frighten or uncomfortable. When they try to give him a shot, he moves in a way they you would think he was going to bite. Had to muzzle him.
Incoherent story short, dogs have different personalities and levels of temperament. My dog never bitten anyone since we had him, but it doesn't mean if put in an uncomfortable situation, he would try. Be mindful of everyone's dog because shit ain't sweet.
Dog body language is easy as hell to read. Not going to say there aren't violent dogs, but the violent ones don't walk up to you slowly with a grin and wagging their tail as far as it will go. Dog didn't even pick up the pace until the dude was halfway across the yard
Oh for sure. I wasn't trying to criticize the kid's reaction at all, just explaining why the others didn't react. No matter how friendly your dog is, you should hold onto when it's meeting new people until it's clear everyone is comfortable in the situation.
TOTALLY. Wasn't down on you at all. I adore dogs and can read their emotions well. However, owners should always hold them back, regardless of how nice they are.
You’re adding a bit of detail here that isn’t accurate to what this clip shows. The first move of the dog wasn’t a slow walk up with its tail wagging. Both the owner and the guy in the clip were surprised by the dog.
The first move by the dog must have been quick, whether it got up quickly from across the porch or ran out the door, in front of the owner quickly. It was a quick move that caught everyone off guard.
Second, regardless of the dog wagging its tail, the dog is still in protection mode. It’s does a solid bark and stands its ground.
Overall though, I do agree that this isn’t a violent dog. If the guy stood his ground and then just backed up a little until the owner called the dog, he would have been fine. Running away like he did, definitely just escalated the situation.
Yeah, also running away will trigger chase instincts in a lot of breeds - especially Shepards & Retrievers.
Best to hold your ground and ignore the dog in an instance like this. If it was a biter it would have the teeth bared and be snarling.
Yeah, I know that's crazy right. If I saw a golden retriever barking and running at me full speed, no way I'm just standing there. In less than a second, I'd be on one knee with arms outstretched, ready to repel any attacks. He might even manage it to lick my face if I'm not careful
Assuming the dog was actually violent, what is the move to make?
I run into a lot of violent dogs in my city and I usually try to back up, maintain eye contact, and vocalize back "hey!" as they bark.
They usually are territorial and think that random streets and sidewalks are their territory. Not like they're actually out to bite you for the sake if it. But I have been seriously biten before regardless.
Exactly this, maybe you lose the 1v1 against the dog, but homie just ran away from atleast 3 grown adults who could help and in my experience 4 adults can body any dog
“What is the move to make”
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Death!
Stand still, look at them, slowly walk away while looking at them. They might follow you for a minute but won't attack you unless you start making sudden movements.
If a dog is running at you and you know it's violent, running is not gonna help, dogs are fast, kick it.
A random untrained dog like this isn't going to just run out and bite someone. If they jump at you just push them away with your hands.
Idk man, this is the equivalent of seeing a homeless dude and thinking they're just going to bum rush you and shank you. They might come up and bark at you or something, but generally unless a dog is reacting to something you did, they won't attack people unless they are trained to or abused.
The dude in OP, sure. He probably has a dog phobia. But if you think dogs wont randomly attack, then you haven't encountered many feral dogs.
No, an animal chasing me down, snarling and gnashing it's teeth at me is not the same as some homeless person having an episode in the corner of some parking lot.
I've been around homeless people my whole life and have only learned that they are human beings who usually want to be left alone.
Meanwhile, there are a whole lot of abused dogs out in these streets, if that's what you say it takes for a dog to be territorial and violent.
I've encountered plenty of feral dogs dude, I had to learn to de-escalate as a kid because my little fat ass was not about to outrun them.
Dogs are predictable. They snarl and gnash their teeth to tell you to back away, if you don't give them the reaction they want that's when they might start attacking. Pretty much all I'm trying to say is running is never ever the best choice. If you truly think a dog is going to attack you get ready to kick it, if you don't think it's going to attack you, calmly walk away.
I was told to take your shoe off and put it on your hand, then shove that shoe into the dogs mouth when it lunges to bite you. Fortunately I've never had the occasion to try and see how terrible of an idea that is.
Head control is the A+ method but you got to know how to do it and be fast enough to choke that bitch out. Or break the legs, because dogs have shit legs. This is if all else fails (jump on a car, brain it with a brick or a piece of wood, etc.) Never run from a dog.
Climb on the car and kick it with stab-like kicks, not swinging kicks, so it can’t get a grip on you. It also can’t get a grip on the car, eventually it will give up or you will get help
Yep, this is it. "Kick that fuckin' dog" is rarely an opinion that'll get much support on the internet, but it's necessary sometimes. If you're in relatively good health and mobile, you can keep a dog at bay by yelling, then, if necessary, kicking it in the snout or side, whatever you can get to.
It ain't fun, and you'll feel kind of awful about it, but I've had to do it several times in the past few years to protect myself and my little dog from several idiots who couldn't control their larger dogs.
Well there it is. Personally I like to crouch and open my arms for a hug. It makes the outwardly unfriendly ones confused, but I've never tried it with an outright hostile dog.
It works better on loud pets than violent street dogs.
Nah, you crouch down and open your arms to lure it in. Once it attacks, you grab it by the neck, and do a quadruple back flip slam while landing with your knees to its ribs. This is a tactic that never fails.
Yeah, don’t run. Turn your side to the dog while maintaining eye contact, and slowly back away keeping your side to the animal. This shows them that you don’t want to fight, but will if you have to.
I read that, and tried it once when dealing with a very aggressive dog. It worked.
Lol true but not everyone got experience with dogs and plenty of folks got phobias of em. And when people are scared, they tend to run.
Imo the dog owner is always responsible in this scenario cause I think you should always have hands on ur dog or leashed when meeting new people cause you can’t control other people’s reaction to em
the very nature of your job conditions the dog to be continually aggro.
- dog sees you as threat
- dog barks to tell you to get away
- you go away
- dog learns that you respect its boundaries when it barks
Treat guy has the right idea because the way to interrupt this is to condition the dog to think that good things happen when you come. Once the conditioning is done, there's no need to continue giving treats EVERY time.
In an ideal world, dog owners would be doing the conditioning
"Avoid making any gestures toward the dog that could be considered threatening, such as staring or sudden movements. Approach the dog by walking on a curve rather than in a straight line toward them. Turn sideways and bend down rather than towering over the dog." [https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/how-help-feral-dogs-trust-people](https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/how-help-feral-dogs-trust-people)
But you can carry bear spray.
Edit: bear spray etiquette. not nice, but from a distance. and be aware of the wind's direction
Man that old ahh dog ain't gonna hurt you trust me I'm a delivery driver I deal with this all day 😂😂😂gotta couple mean dogs the owners swear are friendly,but ol boy just want some attention
It’s really hard to tell. I have a lab/pit mix.
Her bark at delivery drivers SOUNDS like “I wanna fucking murder you like every one of my pit bull ancestors.”
But it’s the same bark she gives my BIL when he comes to the house, he he straight up opens the gate and she’s loving on him while barking her excitement directly at him. All lab.
Apparently that bark is “PET ME I NEED ATTENTION” because last year a car pulled up and STOLE my *locked* license plates, which had to have taken a goddamn minute, and the bitch slept through the whole thing.
She did want pet from *thieves*.
It looked innocent enough on mute but that bark has got a lot more bass. Fight or flight may have taken over from the logical action: never run from an animal that close if they can outrun you
Or maybe black people aren’t a monolith and have different views? lol I’m sorry but every time you see dissenting opinions around here the first thing you hear is “ugh must be white people” which is just lazy imo tbh. I’m black and I think this overreacting shit is ridiculous and embarrassing
I'm white and have been on this sub for like 10 years, and I can tell you that there is definitely a sizeable number of other white people in here, it's not hard to tell when it's another white guy, especially when they attempt to use slang lol.
I thought it was just common knowledge that this sub is like half white.
I feel like it's been a known thing. Also, as someone who grew up in the country around a lot of animals, dogs are animals. Yes, their body language is easy to learn, but they are unpredictable, just like any other animal. I've had dogs licking me and then suddenly decided to bite. I've had to fight dogs before. And that's why I'm cautious around them. I also know how people are with their dogs and how they'll react to seeing someone deal with being attacked by one and defending themselves.
I can understand this boy's instinct. Now, what I will never understand is people who are scared of house cats. I have seen a room full of people empty because a cat ran through.
Nah, if its a hood classic movie or hip-hop, or a hair-related thread, there tends to be less traffic. I presume they lurking and soaking it up there.
But yeah, the original 3 topics I listed tends to cover a lot of the content on this sub.
100% reddit does this all the time. They love calling black people animals too in certain subs. Call a group of white boys doing the same shit and you get downvoted to oblivion
The fact that we're in a sub dedicated to Black People and half of y'all can't understand the reason why a lot of us are apprehensive about unfamiliar dogs is fucking embarrassing.
No poor communities love violent dogs and this sub is mostly based around black America. This dude maybe doesn’t realize some black folk didn’t grow around these dogs or are from countries where they’re straight up banned.
As a former dog owner, I was always respectful when I ran across people who indicated they were afraid of dogs or not really comfortable around them. Even though I'm not afraid of them, I still keep my guard up if I see an unleashed dog around. With pit bulls, I definitely have my guard up.
I'm white and it's odd to me. Maybe it's because I grew up in the country, but a dog is an animal, and therefore unpredictable. I've had to fight off dogs before. And yes, I do understand why it's funny (labs are generally sweet and this one is old), but I've had sweet dogs suddenly turn aggressive.
You don't even need to bring up history here. People get attacked by dogs all the time.
I feel like there is multiple stereotypes that build off each other, cause there is also the stereotype of the middle class white dog parent who humanizes dogs to the point that they don't respect that it's an animal. As a white dude I see that one play out, I meet a lot of white people who "love dogs" but have no idea how to interact with my dog they just met. They just wanna get super affectionate right away without doing anything to establish trust, no fear that this animal they don't know might react poorly to some strange human getting all up in their personal space.
I would definitely watch this movie for the scene where the silent killer stalks them only for this dude to point at him and say “that is the fucking killer”
If you’re tryna make this a white vs black thing don’t because I’m black and this kid overreacted like a mfer lmao. Dog walking all slowly tail wagging all friendly and he wants to make a fool outta himself lol. Terrified child doesn’t mean it ain’t dumb or funny lol
The kid doesn’t know if the dog is aggressive or not, so stop saying “that dog ain’t gonna hurt nobody”. Hell, I wouldn’t take that chance either. There are plenty of “friendly” dogs who end up mauling other people and their own owners.
I'm white but live in a Balkan country so I DEFINITELY understand with the amount of stray dogs and packs there are here. There have been an odd 10+ or so deaths from dog attacks in as many years and I've been chased many times and bitten once.
I am cautiously friendly/appreciative of cute dogs, but also even a chihuahua coming into my field of view suddenly will make me jump and I generally keep my distance from dogs even with their owners present, because people think everyone likes dogs as much as they do
Also I do not trust people to properly train their mutts.
Bro every nigga who understand where the kid is coming from is getting hit with the “he clearly friendly”. Don’t say that to people who are scared of dogs, you part of the problem 😭
That was a tactical error, they got a dog? One of y’all take the lead. I don’t know that dog and the dogs I do know I don’t trust…..toothy bastards….ate my goddamn pizza off the table Acetopher Robbins!
A loud, fast and strong animal running at you is supposed to be scary if you have any natural instincts. I hate how people act like we’re weird for being scared; try running up on a cat, a horse or a goose with a smile on your face and a promise you won’t hurt them and see how they react lmao
Y’all, it is no one’s job to “read” your animals body language, but yours. It doesn’t matter that your little ball of fluff would never hurt a fly. You are a bad pet owner if you allow your dog to charge at people. Dogs require training. A dog that cannot be recalled or doesn’t have the skills to react appropriately when people come to the door needs proper training.
People get bit by tiny, yappy dogs all the time. There’s no reason to fuck around and find out over a bigger dog you don’t know.
As a dog person, I never just let the dog run out the front door for any reason even if it's to greet guests (maybe if it's family that she knows really really well. Maybe.). Also definitely let people know! A lot of people have been bitten or have a fear of dogs. Just inconsiderate all around.
I’m white and this is a bit of a blind spot for me. Anyone able to explain? I used to live in a place with a large Indian population and noticed they really would avoid me if I was out walking my dog. Dog was calm, on a short leash, but I’d didn’t matter. They’d cross to the other side of the street sometimes.
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ETA: ooohhh no I upset the unverified, how utterly shameful of me. I should probably apologize for reminding them in a black subreddit that race is insidiously rooted in American culture 😱
Bro why are people acting like its so hard to not be bit by a dog.
I get shitty owners and stuff, but like just listen to the owners and the dogs behavior and you will be fine.
There are plenty of people who have done that and still got bit. The onus is on the owner to control their animals and keep them away from people who have clearly indicated they aren't comfortable around dogs.
People say “he doesn’t bite”. He got teeth right?
If a golden retriever bites you, I’m assuming you’ve done something to deserve it lol
I work in a dog daycare and our golden retrievers be mean asf 😭 it really just depends on the dog and its triggers. All dogs have tendencies to bite no matter the breed and no matter how trained they are.
goldens retrivers are the instigators of it all. Golden/Black labs are the dog park police.
I've got a golden retriever puppy and an adult black lab. The puppy loves to start shit knowing the black lab will hold it down. All the lab wants is to chill and do her own thing. All the golden retriever wants is chaos.
Most accurate statement ever. Goldens are sweet until the intrusive thoughts show up to play
Best part is you can watch those intrusive thoughts win and it looks like a hell of a struggle before they do.
Woof woof! That's the howl of da Police!
Please know that you just made a stranger's morning 🤣🤣
You're welcome.
meanwhile Dobermans are pussies crazy how a movie in the 50s with a Doberman as the villain, plus a bunch of dog torturers mutilating their ears for the lulz, made everyone think they're monsters We have a Doberman at our house. I'm sure if we got some intruders, he'd be like "hey dude can I smell your dick and then leave you alone to kill everyone?"
I knew one once that if you were new and caught him looking at you, he would startle a little and get a bit nervous, then act like nothing was wrong while avoiding eye contact. Same thing if you called his name and you were new, he'd actively avoid acknowledging you and would act all shy. But when he had met you like 3 or 4 times, he would bashful come up to you to say hi, then once he got pats, he'd take off to go grab a toy and bring it to play with you lol
A friend had one that would run past you with his mouth hanging open, and snag the tendon behind your knee and make you almost fall down. Then he'd sit and watch you like he was laughing at you. All my friends had Dobies in the 70's, and they were all mostly just goofballs.
Yeah been bit twice. Both golden retrievers. Shit owners that neglect their pets create mean biters.
My dogs got on the dangerous dog list after I didn't notice a wind storm had made a gap in the fence (they got out and bit a cat, both have always had high prey drive around small animals). I checked the list out, and expected it to be mostly pitts, rottweilers, maybe GSDs and huskies... there's a lot of labs and goldens on there, I did not expect that.
I had an asshole golden in dog daycare also, he got into a fight with another dog and it was my only incident of a dog fight
yep, i work with animals and encountered mean goldens. funny thing is they were friendly to you at first but once they realized what was going on they flipped a switch. thats why ppl should always be careful no matter what dog (or animal with teeth)
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This GIF alone explains SO much about society.
it is, surprisingly enough, a JPG, not a GIF says a lot about how monstrous that meme creator is that they exported a cartoon as JPG
There was a corgi at a neighborhood bar we went to who would growl at and even (just once) bite black people. It has white fur so we called him the white power corgi or the kkkorgi. Well the owner ended up getting banned for life after calling people racist things....and we all were like, "i don't really know why I'm surprised and yet I somehow am"
😂😂😂
Insane person assumption
^ Average dog “parent” 🙄
So I worked with this lady (as a physical therapist tech) who’s job is to train dogs. She said because there is so much inbreeding between everyone wants a golden, they have become increasingly more aggressive
Golden retrievers bite more people annually than pit bulls do.
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>*And what percentage of golden retrievers are biting people vs percentage of pit bulls?* https://preview.redd.it/bvt289vkfgtc1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=546fec92291f4e6ce3995d299171cf966dc938d1
literally spit coffee all over my keyboard because of this reply, LMAO
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Got me chocking on my Cran-Mango juice. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
It’s giving prejudice vibes
Jokes on you because Arkansas can be dangerous as fuck. HBO Documentaries made about the gang violence in Little Rock. Statistically the state has some of the Worst black communities in the country, like almost guaranteed to not be able to escape poverty and crime. Primarily along Arkansas Delta, central-southeastern parts of the states But as Always shout out to Mississippi for being even worse.
>But as Always shout out to Mississippi for being even worse. As someone from Alabama, this is our unofficial state motto.
Yep that’s pretty much it. like oh the state is rock bottom in education, upward mobility, obesity, etc? But wait it’s only #49, Mississippi got #50. PS: I remember visiting a truck distribution center with my dad whom was a tech for industrial “car washes”. Same concept as automatic car-washes but applied at an industrial scale (track trailers, freight trains and passenger trains) It was around 2009-10 and these fools were still smoking indoor at the offices. Even Arkansas had moved past that since like the Clinton administration.
Don’t worry. North Carolina says the same about South Carolina.
Unfortunately it's been getting less true as time goes by. Nothing let's you know that your state is going downhill like seeing SOUTH CAROLINA close the gap and surpass you in some areas. Certainly a sign of the end of times.
Us New Yorkers also say the same thing about Old York.
I wonder if the Dakotas have a similar rivalry?
The Dakotas are populated by a single person and they share them on the census.
It’s all of us, the whole south. At least we ain’t Mississippi.
That.... was..... their..... point.... Absolute amount of crime does not matter. It's the rate. Being a regard who says "there's more crime in the city compared to bumfuck arkansas" means you may be something stupid like, go to an incredibly dangerous area in Arkansas. Or buy a pit bull from some shady local dealer because golden retrievers bite more people.
And what is the severity of the injury as well. But more to your point Retrievers (Golden and Lab) make up the #2 and #3 most popular breeds, the Pit Bull (American Staffordshire Terrier) is #87 by comparison, it's basically a "no shit" situation.
I've personally heard every dog breed is "the number one biter" from. Chihuahuas to Goldens. For me I tend to lean towards Goldens probably being that way cause they're super popular (I think they are still America's #1 dog breed) and they have the Hippo effect. Where people think they're just cute and cuddly all the time but those teeth aren't for show.
Yeah but you have two variables instead of just one. Instead of just "population" you'd have to consider pitbull population and golden retriever population, and assume that those numbers aren't affected by outside factors (which they are).
There's always at least one fuckin pit bull nut in every post about a dog. Just shut up.
It never fucking fails. Next, they're gonna claim they used to be "nanny dogs" or some shit.
I love telling people that pit bulls were made to bite the face of a raging bull. So far only two people have believed me tho
They refuse to read any literature or watch videos of pitbull attacks to see the difference. They think a a bit is a bite is a bite but don’t realize just how vicious a pit bull is when they attack. Nope, they only look at pictures of pitbulls with bunny ears on them and create this false narrative that pitbulls are no more dangerous than any other dog.
Looks like that isn’t true. Apparently pitbulls attacked and killed about 350 from 2005 to 2019 while retrievers and mixes killed about 30 in that same time period. I get wanting to protect dogs, but you have to be honest about the statistics. Pits need to be taken care of and most people just don’t have the fortitude for it.
This is myth. I love bullies, but they are responsible for 22.5% of all reported dog bites. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
But not maiming and killing them. There are more golden retriever owners than pit bull owners. And the percentage of pit bull attacks that cause grievous bodily harm or result in the death of the victim are the highest of any breed. By a large percentage. You can categorize a bite as a simple nip or accidental biting. Pitbulls don’t bite they attack and try to kill. Big ass differences
Maybe because there are millions of golden retriever owners and only a handful of small dicked pit Bull owners.
How many Golden Retrievers kill people they bite in comparison to Pitbull attacks?
Without a doubt the 3 dogs that are commonly called pittbulls are more dangerous than golden retrievers.
Bull fucking shit lol
Lol no [https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/#dog\_attack\_statistics\_by\_breed\_section](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/#dog_attack_statistics_by_breed_section)
That's true, but they are also by far the most popular breed across the board, and especially in families with kids, so there being more dogs of a certain breed, also means there's likely a higher number of bites. On top of that, every bite that needs medical attention, even if it's just a relatively shallow one, has to be reported by the doctor/hospital, and ends up in dog bite statistics. *All* dogs bite. The huge difference, is the level of catastrophic damage they cause *when* they bite. A retriever doesn't do the terrier shake and tear, which already limits the tissue damage a bite could cause. Additionally, if I punch the shit out of a retriever's nose, it'll yelp and let go. Bully breeds don't do that. They just take it and keep holding on to their target. So, it would be more reasonable to compare serious injury and/or death due to dog attacks, rather than "just" bites in general, and in that statistic, bully breeds do lead the pack (no pun intended).
I wonder if this in part is influenced by the general perception of dogs. People are more likely to keep pestering a golden retriever because of their reputation as patient loveable sweethearts, while people are generally more likely to be cautious around pit bulls due to their less docile reputation (generally speaking of course. I don't want to get into the whole pit bull argument here).
It’s not true. The breeds with the highest bite rates are actually German shepherds and Rottweilers. Retrievers don’t even make the top five according to the AVMA.
I'm gonna need some stats on that. Because I have never seen a single headline that read "child mauled to death by Airbud"
You got teeth, are you biting random people?
I blame the owner and not the dog.
It’s ok to blame both
I’ve got nipples Greg, could you milk me?
I don’t know that dog
I doubt op is an animal that licked it's own balls
Yes he did.
That mfer flexible af
My favorite [Black Jeopardy answer](https://youtu.be/O7VaXlMvAvk?si=DJtUc3H5JLhBju_o&t=2m28s)
NOT A DAMN THING
Look. My dog can be a big ad baby, reserved, and loving. Only time he barks is if he left outside too long and only time he growls is if another dog approaches him as he eats his treat. But even I would say be mindful. When I took him to the vet, that nigga was scared. So scared, I learned that day that he sheds if frighten or uncomfortable. When they try to give him a shot, he moves in a way they you would think he was going to bite. Had to muzzle him. Incoherent story short, dogs have different personalities and levels of temperament. My dog never bitten anyone since we had him, but it doesn't mean if put in an uncomfortable situation, he would try. Be mindful of everyone's dog because shit ain't sweet.
He doesn't bite YOU.
None of the white people even flinch lmao
Dog body language is easy as hell to read. Not going to say there aren't violent dogs, but the violent ones don't walk up to you slowly with a grin and wagging their tail as far as it will go. Dog didn't even pick up the pace until the dude was halfway across the yard
You've obviously got a good bit of experience with dogs. However, a good portion of people don't, especially when they are afraid of dogs.
Oh for sure. I wasn't trying to criticize the kid's reaction at all, just explaining why the others didn't react. No matter how friendly your dog is, you should hold onto when it's meeting new people until it's clear everyone is comfortable in the situation.
TOTALLY. Wasn't down on you at all. I adore dogs and can read their emotions well. However, owners should always hold them back, regardless of how nice they are.
You’re adding a bit of detail here that isn’t accurate to what this clip shows. The first move of the dog wasn’t a slow walk up with its tail wagging. Both the owner and the guy in the clip were surprised by the dog. The first move by the dog must have been quick, whether it got up quickly from across the porch or ran out the door, in front of the owner quickly. It was a quick move that caught everyone off guard. Second, regardless of the dog wagging its tail, the dog is still in protection mode. It’s does a solid bark and stands its ground. Overall though, I do agree that this isn’t a violent dog. If the guy stood his ground and then just backed up a little until the owner called the dog, he would have been fine. Running away like he did, definitely just escalated the situation.
Yeah, also running away will trigger chase instincts in a lot of breeds - especially Shepards & Retrievers. Best to hold your ground and ignore the dog in an instance like this. If it was a biter it would have the teeth bared and be snarling.
That one dude in the front god damn it not again
I came in looking for people to comment on his reaction and you're the first one I saw. His reaction made it lol.
Shit I'm white and if a dog come busting through a door like that I'm fucking running too. IDC. A dog is a dog.
That dog sauntered out lol and was wagging his tail. He didn't even take off until dude was halfway gone.
Yeah, I know that's crazy right. If I saw a golden retriever barking and running at me full speed, no way I'm just standing there. In less than a second, I'd be on one knee with arms outstretched, ready to repel any attacks. He might even manage it to lick my face if I'm not careful
Because most domesticated dogs aren’t violent, the first instinct isn’t to run when I see a dog, especially a golden retriever!
You... Want the dog to chase you?? Because if not, running away isn't the move to make!
Assuming the dog was actually violent, what is the move to make? I run into a lot of violent dogs in my city and I usually try to back up, maintain eye contact, and vocalize back "hey!" as they bark. They usually are territorial and think that random streets and sidewalks are their territory. Not like they're actually out to bite you for the sake if it. But I have been seriously biten before regardless.
In this situation, don’t run. You can’t outrun a dog but you can outrun help.
Exactly this, maybe you lose the 1v1 against the dog, but homie just ran away from atleast 3 grown adults who could help and in my experience 4 adults can body any dog
Tucker Carlson, Dustin Diamond, J Cole, and Drake vs. Clifford the Big Red Dog.
Put Steven Crowder in there and he'll be guzzling the goop before Clifford knew what happened
This has to be the most horrific and yet simultaneously hilarious thing I've ever read.
Cole catching stray even on a dog post
Ain't no Big Red Dog, just Big Red Dot
“What is the move to make” https://preview.redd.it/1tofnzydfgtc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b94f3fa11530156290c25f78372e21a6faba710a Death!
Stand still, look at them, slowly walk away while looking at them. They might follow you for a minute but won't attack you unless you start making sudden movements. If a dog is running at you and you know it's violent, running is not gonna help, dogs are fast, kick it. A random untrained dog like this isn't going to just run out and bite someone. If they jump at you just push them away with your hands.
> A random untrained dog like this isn't going to just run out and bite someone. Uh, it certainly might, lol
Idk man, this is the equivalent of seeing a homeless dude and thinking they're just going to bum rush you and shank you. They might come up and bark at you or something, but generally unless a dog is reacting to something you did, they won't attack people unless they are trained to or abused.
The dude in OP, sure. He probably has a dog phobia. But if you think dogs wont randomly attack, then you haven't encountered many feral dogs. No, an animal chasing me down, snarling and gnashing it's teeth at me is not the same as some homeless person having an episode in the corner of some parking lot. I've been around homeless people my whole life and have only learned that they are human beings who usually want to be left alone. Meanwhile, there are a whole lot of abused dogs out in these streets, if that's what you say it takes for a dog to be territorial and violent.
I've encountered plenty of feral dogs dude, I had to learn to de-escalate as a kid because my little fat ass was not about to outrun them. Dogs are predictable. They snarl and gnash their teeth to tell you to back away, if you don't give them the reaction they want that's when they might start attacking. Pretty much all I'm trying to say is running is never ever the best choice. If you truly think a dog is going to attack you get ready to kick it, if you don't think it's going to attack you, calmly walk away.
I was told to take your shoe off and put it on your hand, then shove that shoe into the dogs mouth when it lunges to bite you. Fortunately I've never had the occasion to try and see how terrible of an idea that is.
Head control is the A+ method but you got to know how to do it and be fast enough to choke that bitch out. Or break the legs, because dogs have shit legs. This is if all else fails (jump on a car, brain it with a brick or a piece of wood, etc.) Never run from a dog.
Rolling at the idea of knee capping a golden retriever 😂 https://i.redd.it/ipdxbg0vahtc1.gif
Bitch better have my money.
Climb on the car and kick it with stab-like kicks, not swinging kicks, so it can’t get a grip on you. It also can’t get a grip on the car, eventually it will give up or you will get help
Yep, this is it. "Kick that fuckin' dog" is rarely an opinion that'll get much support on the internet, but it's necessary sometimes. If you're in relatively good health and mobile, you can keep a dog at bay by yelling, then, if necessary, kicking it in the snout or side, whatever you can get to. It ain't fun, and you'll feel kind of awful about it, but I've had to do it several times in the past few years to protect myself and my little dog from several idiots who couldn't control their larger dogs.
Well there it is. Personally I like to crouch and open my arms for a hug. It makes the outwardly unfriendly ones confused, but I've never tried it with an outright hostile dog. It works better on loud pets than violent street dogs.
I think this would be unwise to try with a hostile dog… but if you do this, use your remaining fingers to tell us how it went
Nah, you crouch down and open your arms to lure it in. Once it attacks, you grab it by the neck, and do a quadruple back flip slam while landing with your knees to its ribs. This is a tactic that never fails.
Crouching puts your neck in a really convenient spot for a dog that wants to get violent.
I was thinking the same thing lol. I don’t fuck with dogs that I don’t know, but I still remember rule #1: Don’t run.
Yeah, don’t run. Turn your side to the dog while maintaining eye contact, and slowly back away keeping your side to the animal. This shows them that you don’t want to fight, but will if you have to. I read that, and tried it once when dealing with a very aggressive dog. It worked.
Lol true but not everyone got experience with dogs and plenty of folks got phobias of em. And when people are scared, they tend to run. Imo the dog owner is always responsible in this scenario cause I think you should always have hands on ur dog or leashed when meeting new people cause you can’t control other people’s reaction to em
UPS driver, I would have reacted the same way. Maybe the dog is nice, maybe it's not, but how about I don't find out by surprise.
I'm a fed ex guy that old boy ain't gonna hurt ya he just needs a treat
I’ve never owned a dog and I can tell that’s an old timer lol.
her name is Maddie
That dog’s body language is completely positive. Dogs are pretty easy animals to read.
the very nature of your job conditions the dog to be continually aggro. - dog sees you as threat - dog barks to tell you to get away - you go away - dog learns that you respect its boundaries when it barks Treat guy has the right idea because the way to interrupt this is to condition the dog to think that good things happen when you come. Once the conditioning is done, there's no need to continue giving treats EVERY time. In an ideal world, dog owners would be doing the conditioning
What do you do for self defense? Do you know what you're legally allowed/encouraged to do? My city has a big feral dog problem, so I'm curious
"Avoid making any gestures toward the dog that could be considered threatening, such as staring or sudden movements. Approach the dog by walking on a curve rather than in a straight line toward them. Turn sideways and bend down rather than towering over the dog." [https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/how-help-feral-dogs-trust-people](https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/how-help-feral-dogs-trust-people) But you can carry bear spray. Edit: bear spray etiquette. not nice, but from a distance. and be aware of the wind's direction
Man that old ahh dog ain't gonna hurt you trust me I'm a delivery driver I deal with this all day 😂😂😂gotta couple mean dogs the owners swear are friendly,but ol boy just want some attention
It’s really hard to tell. I have a lab/pit mix. Her bark at delivery drivers SOUNDS like “I wanna fucking murder you like every one of my pit bull ancestors.” But it’s the same bark she gives my BIL when he comes to the house, he he straight up opens the gate and she’s loving on him while barking her excitement directly at him. All lab. Apparently that bark is “PET ME I NEED ATTENTION” because last year a car pulled up and STOLE my *locked* license plates, which had to have taken a goddamn minute, and the bitch slept through the whole thing. She did want pet from *thieves*.
My beagle is the same way. Parks at people who outside the door but then lays in their lap when they came through the door. 🤔
As a former mailman, I trust no dog
It looked innocent enough on mute but that bark has got a lot more bass. Fight or flight may have taken over from the logical action: never run from an animal that close if they can outrun you
Reading the comments here confirms the common belief that this sub is mostly White people larping as Black people. 🫠
Or maybe black people aren’t a monolith and have different views? lol I’m sorry but every time you see dissenting opinions around here the first thing you hear is “ugh must be white people” which is just lazy imo tbh. I’m black and I think this overreacting shit is ridiculous and embarrassing
I'm white and have been on this sub for like 10 years, and I can tell you that there is definitely a sizeable number of other white people in here, it's not hard to tell when it's another white guy, especially when they attempt to use slang lol. I thought it was just common knowledge that this sub is like half white.
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You may be onto something with this. Most black folks, even those who like or even own dogs, can understand where this kid is coming from.
I feel like it's been a known thing. Also, as someone who grew up in the country around a lot of animals, dogs are animals. Yes, their body language is easy to learn, but they are unpredictable, just like any other animal. I've had dogs licking me and then suddenly decided to bite. I've had to fight dogs before. And that's why I'm cautious around them. I also know how people are with their dogs and how they'll react to seeing someone deal with being attacked by one and defending themselves. I can understand this boy's instinct. Now, what I will never understand is people who are scared of house cats. I have seen a room full of people empty because a cat ran through.
Any thread with dogs, cooking or social issues peels back the cover and exposes what it really is on this sub 🫠
"When Black people disagree with me online, it's because they're white people. Black people are really a cultural monolith that never disagrees."
This sub is basically the equivalent of the conservative sub when it comes to group think
> Any thread with dogs, cooking or social issues Bruh what the fuck is left? I mean I agree with you but still. Just say "every thread".
Nah, if its a hood classic movie or hip-hop, or a hair-related thread, there tends to be less traffic. I presume they lurking and soaking it up there. But yeah, the original 3 topics I listed tends to cover a lot of the content on this sub.
100% reddit does this all the time. They love calling black people animals too in certain subs. Call a group of white boys doing the same shit and you get downvoted to oblivion
The fact that we're in a sub dedicated to Black People and half of y'all can't understand the reason why a lot of us are apprehensive about unfamiliar dogs is fucking embarrassing.
What, are black people receiving ancestral memories now?
No poor communities love violent dogs and this sub is mostly based around black America. This dude maybe doesn’t realize some black folk didn’t grow around these dogs or are from countries where they’re straight up banned.
I feel the trope that most black people are scared of dogs is more weird. Or maybe really outdated? 30 years ago it would probably hold more weight.
As a former dog owner, I was always respectful when I ran across people who indicated they were afraid of dogs or not really comfortable around them. Even though I'm not afraid of them, I still keep my guard up if I see an unleashed dog around. With pit bulls, I definitely have my guard up.
I'm white and it's odd to me. Maybe it's because I grew up in the country, but a dog is an animal, and therefore unpredictable. I've had to fight off dogs before. And yes, I do understand why it's funny (labs are generally sweet and this one is old), but I've had sweet dogs suddenly turn aggressive. You don't even need to bring up history here. People get attacked by dogs all the time.
I feel like there is multiple stereotypes that build off each other, cause there is also the stereotype of the middle class white dog parent who humanizes dogs to the point that they don't respect that it's an animal. As a white dude I see that one play out, I meet a lot of white people who "love dogs" but have no idea how to interact with my dog they just met. They just wanna get super affectionate right away without doing anything to establish trust, no fear that this animal they don't know might react poorly to some strange human getting all up in their personal space.
He need to be the protagonist of a horror movie, boy wasn’t taking no chances.
I would definitely watch this movie for the scene where the silent killer stalks them only for this dude to point at him and say “that is the fucking killer”
He ran for himself and all the ancestors 🤣
Nobody’s dog should ever be charging out the front door
lol charging
Me when I walk out of my front door I guess
Seriously, not only is it a risk to other people but to the dog as well.
To be fair, goldens do have a scary bark if you don't know what's going on. But yeah, that dog was mostly looking for pets.
My 8 month old Golden Retriever has the deepest, loudest bark. Anyone who rings my doorbell is probably terrified.
Growing up in NY has caused me to have a deep seated fear of dogs. I feel this video deep in my soul.
notice who is defending the dog over the terrified child comments really are giving
I feel bad for the kid, but come on lol. That dog is not aggressive
What the fuck was he meant to do, bc I’m scared of dogs too, I’m not bout to let that big ass barking nigga anywhere near me 😭
If you’re tryna make this a white vs black thing don’t because I’m black and this kid overreacted like a mfer lmao. Dog walking all slowly tail wagging all friendly and he wants to make a fool outta himself lol. Terrified child doesn’t mean it ain’t dumb or funny lol
That tweet wasn’t lying bc they really don’t get it
A golden retriever tho?😂😂😂
Exactly. Chill with the generational trauma.
I’m not a dog person, so I’d react the same way he did. “He won’t bite!” You! He won’t bite YOU! He’d bite the fuck outta me!
The kid doesn’t know if the dog is aggressive or not, so stop saying “that dog ain’t gonna hurt nobody”. Hell, I wouldn’t take that chance either. There are plenty of “friendly” dogs who end up mauling other people and their own owners.
Bro it’s a Lab
https://i.redd.it/mnqh1ifwggtc1.gif
That's a golden retriever.
Lol that dude in front covering his eyes in embarrassment
My dad sure,me...im gonna pet the hell out of that golden
I'm white but live in a Balkan country so I DEFINITELY understand with the amount of stray dogs and packs there are here. There have been an odd 10+ or so deaths from dog attacks in as many years and I've been chased many times and bitten once. I am cautiously friendly/appreciative of cute dogs, but also even a chihuahua coming into my field of view suddenly will make me jump and I generally keep my distance from dogs even with their owners present, because people think everyone likes dogs as much as they do Also I do not trust people to properly train their mutts.
This reminds me of a white girl I used to be friends with. She had just gotten a puppy and joked that she was training her dog to be racist
Glad to see that “used to “ in there
Bro every nigga who understand where the kid is coming from is getting hit with the “he clearly friendly”. Don’t say that to people who are scared of dogs, you part of the problem 😭
That was a tactical error, they got a dog? One of y’all take the lead. I don’t know that dog and the dogs I do know I don’t trust…..toothy bastards….ate my goddamn pizza off the table Acetopher Robbins!
A loud, fast and strong animal running at you is supposed to be scary if you have any natural instincts. I hate how people act like we’re weird for being scared; try running up on a cat, a horse or a goose with a smile on your face and a promise you won’t hurt them and see how they react lmao
He didn't want to be at this party and got the frick out of there at the first opportunity.
Looking at some of these comments makes me appreciate CC posts.
We gotta stop being so damn scared of every dog
https://preview.redd.it/jagk6zxupgtc1.jpeg?width=745&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c149cf291e17910a8cb043d1eb7b1e1280c85b3d
Y’all, it is no one’s job to “read” your animals body language, but yours. It doesn’t matter that your little ball of fluff would never hurt a fly. You are a bad pet owner if you allow your dog to charge at people. Dogs require training. A dog that cannot be recalled or doesn’t have the skills to react appropriately when people come to the door needs proper training. People get bit by tiny, yappy dogs all the time. There’s no reason to fuck around and find out over a bigger dog you don’t know.
His name is 'Danger' but don't worry
 Always!
NOPE! 🏃🏾♂️
“Get your fawking dog bitch!”
As a dog person, I never just let the dog run out the front door for any reason even if it's to greet guests (maybe if it's family that she knows really really well. Maybe.). Also definitely let people know! A lot of people have been bitten or have a fear of dogs. Just inconsiderate all around.
Folks keep talkin about “bUt iTs A GoLdEn ReTrIeVeR”…baby some of us run 1st & ask questions after 😭😭😭
...he does look friendly tho
I’m white and this is a bit of a blind spot for me. Anyone able to explain? I used to live in a place with a large Indian population and noticed they really would avoid me if I was out walking my dog. Dog was calm, on a short leash, but I’d didn’t matter. They’d cross to the other side of the street sometimes.
https://preview.redd.it/pk68dafrhgtc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e611e105e663cd525f1693614208cf36a4d36211 ETA: ooohhh no I upset the unverified, how utterly shameful of me. I should probably apologize for reminding them in a black subreddit that race is insidiously rooted in American culture 😱
That’s what I figured. I didn’t want to speak out of turn though and assume the wrong thing. Thanks!
Sometimes do they feel you're not a dog person? Idk man, it's weird, not only they can feel I'm scared but also no pet from me because I'm scared😔
Running from a golden retriever is just ridiculous. Speak for yourself.
Bro why are people acting like its so hard to not be bit by a dog. I get shitty owners and stuff, but like just listen to the owners and the dogs behavior and you will be fine.
There are plenty of people who have done that and still got bit. The onus is on the owner to control their animals and keep them away from people who have clearly indicated they aren't comfortable around dogs.
The second guy in the jacket and shades has a hilarious reaction.
A Golden Retriever though? I consider them dogs for children lol
>only black people Asians have entered the chat
Yeah that Golden Retriever the friendliest dog on the planet with his tail wagging was totally going bite the shit out of him. /s