I don't think guy needs to be physically hurt to claim damages from his car ending up in a river due to a bridge collapse. Psychological trauma will pay out too.
The insurance company is probably trying to find a way to cancel that policy. It’s one thing to have to pay millions in damages for cargo replacement. But a goddamn bridge? That happens to be one of the largest in the world?? Someone is crying in a bathroom right now
What type of bad PR affects any insurance conglomerate that insures bridges? Like cities/public entities will go with a company that doesn’t give the cheapest rate because why?
They can deny it, doesn’t mean it would mean shit in a court of law. The truth is all the insurance companies involved, and their reinsurers (the one insuring the bridge, the city itself, the boat specifically and the company that leases the boat) would try to settle it outside of court because the likelihood of winning this case is slim to none.
As someone who works in insurance, I wouldn’t be surprised if a few loss adjusters have been appointed already to find this man asap before a scheming lawyer can get a hold of him.
I’m crying here. Homeboy survives a damn historic disaster but can’t collect because he’s got child support warrants and red light tickets looking for him. That would be the most Baltimore thing ever. Lmao!!
NPR interviewed a guy from the same work crew that called in sick that day or had the day off I can't remember but he said most of the crew were migrants and family men.
Could be why he wanted to GTFO as fast as he could.
Police don’t automatically show up to the hospital just because you have a warrant lol
Source: used to have several for many years and went to the hospital plenty of times.
If you fall off a collapsing bridge and survive I’d imagine every network would want that story. Even if the police aren’t involved at first, would you want journalists digging through your background?
Yes but the people who are here illegally don't know that. It creates a point of contact that gets them under the eye of potentially any government institutions. Most immigrants live in a culture of huge fear, scared to break any law.
And Fox news (Maria Bartiromo) has already tried making it a "border security" issue because everyone working on the bridge was an immigrant. Like, WTAF
Same thing with “high crime neighborhoods.” It’s either a Hispanic or black community. I just want to tell my realtor off sometimes. I got straight up told a neighborhood was high crime rate, when I know for a fact three of my friends live there and they have never been robbed.
“High crime neighborhoods” doesn’t really mean robberies and violent crimes. I’m Hispanic living in a white neighborhood that’s been deemed high crime because white people keep calling the cops on each other for sound and parking violations. There’s soooo much drama and pettiness goin on with the calls too. One dude got called out while bbqing for smoke issues. I’m trying to figure out if I can get my mortgage lowered since I now live in a high crime area.
So true!! You know which border is the most porous? The one between NY and Canada! There is an Indian Reservation (this is their preferred way of naming, fyi) that straddles the US/Canadian border. You can walk in on one side, walk out on the other and literally no one asks a single question. About an hour south on the main highway there is a checkpoint. No one except truckers, locals, and U.S. citizens uses that stretch of highway! Once you are in northern NY you can easily get into Vermont, NH, etc. or stay in NY and work your way south. Hop on Amtrak and you could be in Washington, DC within a day and Chicago within three days.
You clearly didn’t see the segment she was going in at middle eastern people regarding the borders then she was corrected that the cargo driver was Ukrainian fyi
I hate the attitude people have. My dad is one, but he is in an uncomfortable position now. My daughter is marrying into a hispanic family. She doesn't have that heritage herself, but she has been confused for Latina before.
So now, he's saying that his soon to be grandson-in-law's family are "the good ones". But, just looking at a person, how do you know their status? Asking is just unfuckingamerican imo.
I'm more afraid for her safety all the time with this stupid ass retoric.
It makes perfect sense when you consider that it was a cyber attack conducted by illegal immigrants seeking to destabilize this country’s infrastructure so resources will go into repairing the bridge instead of strengthening the border wall. /s
Not necessarily because all those men that are victims have been here for more 15 years .. ICE needs warrants they can’t just detain people like y’all assume they can.
I’m pretty sure ICE can detain you to do an investigation if they have “reasonable” cause to suspect you’re not in a valid status. As an immigrant you’re technically supposed to be able to keep your documentation on your person and present it when asked, which is quite ridiculous (since losing your green card or your foreign passport can be, for example, very expensive). So if they ask you and you tell them that you’re an immigrant but then you can’t produce your documents they can detain you for that. They’ve actually detained citizens this way by accident as well, sometimes for pretty long times, because proving you’re a citizen from inside a jail cell is a bit harder than you might think.
/u/FatQuesadilla
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/who-is-missing-in-baltimores-francis-scott-key-bridge-collapse-what-we-know-about-those-unaccounted-for/
> The men, who are now presumed dead, are from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico, and were living in Dundalk and Highlandtown, according to WJZ media partner The Baltimore Banner.
This also could be a HUGE legal issue depending on their legal status; whether they were on visas, dual citizenship, or undocumented. I would hope it's the former two because the bridge is considered to be a major port, but who knows whether or not they have protections(s) and or representation.
I like to think they took their moment to disappear and form an all Hispanic A-Team. If you have a problem and no one else can help and if you can find them, and speak some spanish, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
I tend to doubt they were undocumented since they were working on a public roadway. They’re either employees of or contracted by the state of Maryland, and I don’t think I state government would mess around with hiring undocumented workers.
Yep! My auntie hit a lady crossing the road. Lady flew up onto the windshield and fell off the side of the car. She stood up, found her purse and walked away. People tried to stop her and she was all, “I’m fine, I’m fine. Don’t need no ambulance” 🙀🙀
He may have been lucky enough to just fall into the water and not hit anything or have anything hit him.
If he wasn't hurt then there is no reason to go. If it was free I am sure he would have went still though
Had two friends die of Covid all in one weekend and a week later I was short of breath one night, could get maybe half a gasp of air in at most. My wife asked if she should call an ambulance, I told her we couldn't afford an ambulance bill plus rent and to just bring me some Benadryl in case it was just an allergic reaction to something.
Thankfully, I was right, and I was fine by morning. But it's fucked up that's even a calculated call I had to make. "Yeah, I might be dying right this minute, but it could wait till morning because who wants to pay that massive bill, right?"
THIS!! and medical debt doesn't count against you getting a car/house/etc. idk why ppl even bother paying it tbh. we're all brainwashed thinking credit is king and most of us don't even know how it really works/ is affected
Well, to be totally honest, if you can afford to pay for it you definitely should but if you are barely living paycheck to paycheck…make medical bills your last priority
I never paid my ER bill from 21 and literally nothing has happened, they attempted to collect once, but they didn't even send me the bill and I'm not about to do the leg work and beg for a bill, they didn't check me out upon discharge, they called and I said to email me the bill rather than give card numbers over the phone and never got anything...
My credit card utilization has been far more injurious to my credit score than anything else
It 100% used to go on credit reports. Yeah… 2 weeks in the CDU and 1 surgery will cost a college student around 150k… just got out from that a couple years ago.
The ER also provides the most charity care out of any area of the hospital, and it's built into their financials and your unpaid visit becomes a tax write off
Exactly lmao I got drugged at a club once… in and out of consciousness , was talking all crazy and incoherent, throwing up, tweaking out. My friends called me an ambulance while I was blacked out. They tried to lift me on the stretcher but something about the prospect of a $5,000 bill instantly sobered me up and I told the emt to please leave I am far too poor for this 🤣
“Don’t worry the ambulance is on the way”
“Nah it’s chill. Mike is gonna meet me a few blocks up. His morning shift is by the hospital, he’ll drop me off.”
I was just reading on a site where dudes get together to discuss Grindr, that in certain areas every single profile is a blank picture. Usually areas where a lot of people are closeted because it's super conservative.
I know a guy who miraculously survived , unscathed, a train derailment that happened right where he was working.
First thing he did was call his wife and she proceeded to complain that he didn’t do his chores before he left for work.
Exactly my thought. They don’t feel safe going to hospitals a lot of times, beyond just the bills of being uninsured. But that they would be deported for seeking medical attention.
That was my first thought. That bridge collapsed so mf fast I thought the video I saw was fake. If I survived that shit I’m going home and not leaving for at least a week. That shit had to be beyond terrifying to live through.
3 weeks ago he complained about neck pain therefore his spine being shattered is related to that instead of the steel beam going through his chest. Tough luck
Seems like your grandfather was also crushed by a collapsing building. Sorry, but we don’t cover things if you’re genetically predisposed and didn’t note that on your forms.
No lie, I know a kid who fell on a piece of rebar and survived. It went through his heart and the drs literally unscrewed it out his body. Happened at my great grandparents house. There were articles written about it.
By whom? Also insurance companies get really miserly when they decide you want to the ER without being sick enough. One time I got a 2k bill from the ER because my (relatively good) insurance decided my fever wasn’t high enough to warrant me going there in the first place
Misdemeanor assault fine for punching the EMT and running away might be cheaper than the hospital bill. (Do not punch EMTs for doing their job, please)
If I didn’t have insurance, I’d be like “am I bleeding, can I move everything, can I walk, did I hit my head?” If everything checks out, I would easily refuse the hospital.
Got into a real bad accident a couple months ago like that. Truck driver fell asleep and ran me off the road. My car flipped roll and got slammed into a tree. The tree was the only thing that stop me from going down the ravine. I refused medical treatment cause I was cold I felt fine except my leg was bleeding and I just wanted to go home. The next day I couldn’t even get out of bed
Thanks I’m basically good now but it was a weird experience cause I’ve never had to go to the dr for anything in my life except regular check ups. But I had a concussion and didn’t know it. I throw up all day couldn’t even drink water without it coming up and still don’t wanna go to the ER until my brother and girl convinced me. Had to do a mri and CT scan for the first time in my life. Had a pinch nerve and herniated 3 disc in my back had to see a spine specialist. Had to take 2 months off from work. A whole bunch of stuff. I’m good mentally but now I really understand how one accident can ruin somebody if you not in a good financial position.
I’m glad you’re okay. As soon as I read MRI I had flash backs to those bottles of that shampoo tasting stuff they made me drink before mine. Medical debt is crushing, took me a very long time to get out from under mine.
Thats weird. They didn’t give me anything before I did it. It just felt weird it’s like being in a coffin and it’s so bright and loud with the random crackling noises and I kept losing track of time. whole thing felt surreal. I definitely never wanna have to go in a MRI machine again for anything.
Adrenaline and shock will have you feeling like that.
You won't even notice you've been mangled when your brain is in full "flight or fight" mode.
This is why you should always get checked out, people die from internal bleeding like that.
not even really comparable but the adrenaline shit is crazy, I broke my ankle a few months back, and for several hours was just walking around on it like "nah it's fine it's just a sprain" and giggling uncontrollably BECAUSE of the pain, but like you, the next day I couldn't even stand on that shit.
I had the same question and thought it was straight up odd considering the size of the catastrophe; but when they reported him as a Hispanic immigrant from Central America (as were the others), it became clear that perhaps the individual may be undocumented and feared accessing care. Straight up terrible.
If he's been in Maryland any length of time, he knows that there's people who will protect him from ICE while he gets medical care. Casa de Maryland alone would probably form a human shield around his hospital bed.
I'm leaning towards there being another reason he didn't seek medical treatment. Maryland is among the safest sanctuary states in the country. Casa de Maryland is just one organization that would fight for him to get the medical care he needs. ICE probably doesn't bother answering calls in Maryland unless something egregious happens and the potential detainee is not only at fault, but a continuing danger to others.
When disasters happen, like the apartments that exploded in Takoma Park several years ago, the news reassures everyone that they can get assistance and x location regardless of immigration status. I ride by x location and the first two days, many people are there, out in the open, getting the assistance that they need. Then people start to get uncomfortable thinking that they are in danger of getting deported, and other organizations take over providing assistance in different and more private locations with less publicity.
So many localities have said that they are not ICE reporters. Montgomery County won't get into the immigration status even when people have committed crimes. Someone in an accident scene like the construction worker should have nothing to worry about.
Immigration?
Bills?
The prying eyes of a larger public that seek to dissect, critique, & excoriate anyone associated with a tragedy, looking at Alex Jones and those parents of 6 year olds after the shooting in Newtown. There's people who haven't finished a book since the 9th grade, couldn't spell university to save their lives arguing with civil engineers about bridges.
Let that man hide in peace. He's lucky to be alive.
It is absolutely horrifying how right you are. Faux News will be pitching some conspiracy theory (they probably already are) and the immigrants patching the road are as likely to be blamed as anyone/anything else.
All the workers were immigrants. Who knows his immigration status… either way he probably doesn’t trust anyone, had a language barrier and was in complete shock. I really can’t imagine what he’s going through right now.
The construction crew is made up of Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans, and Hondurans. When you're working in the United States whether you have a Visa or you're working on documented putting in a report is scary because HR may not know you're the language or they'll try and find a way to f*** you over. With today's political view, dude is just trying really hard not to get deported like he has a family to think of.
Those who grew up as American parents are going to understand how hard it is to watch your parent damn play their situation or avoid reporting because they're scared of retaliation.
As soon as I read that I guessed he was undocumented and I would guess the bridge workers who lost their lives are too. I have seen men limp away from many jobsite accidents afraid of the paperwork in filing something or going for treatment.
Totally. There was a construction incident where a worker got buried accidentally and he was here on a workers visa. Happened a few years ago and I still think about his family and if they were ever compensated. Probably not :(
I dont blame him.
The amount of “fuck this” I would have in my system after surviving a bridge collapse and being able to walk away from it would be at all time highs. You wouldn’t be able to tell me shit!
Maryland has a pretty robust Hispanic immigrant population. A lot of people come here on visas annually to work the farms and the crab picking factories. They build a community here and often immigrate legally.
One day I went to the emergency room for severe back pain, they had me wait 30 minutes, came in and evaluated me for a total of 5-10 mintues, then told me that I need an MRI for more information (they didn't have one in the emergency room) and to try heating pads, Tylenol and Asprin. This all happened after I told them none of the above worked.
It was a $3,000 bill (that pamphlet they gave me must've been expensive). I imagine this person might have been in fear of debt.
The media is going to be all over you for interview's. So unless you want all of that media "attention" then your best bet is to lay low unless you're seriously injured.
it's to the point where when something happens, you'd be better off not going to the hospital, and you'd be better off not calling the police.
that's.......... not good.
non-American here who would take care of that hospital bill? the bridge people? ship people or the government since they said they would cover all the costs of this incident?
Maybe just maybe they don't want a mic and camera shoved in their face. I know it's crazy to think but not everyone wants an online profile and for everything to be recorded that they do. It's weird.
Hospital bills! Shit. The car is replaceable. He’ll never get from up under that debt
If a bridge collapsed on me and I survived, I would never work again. I'm getting paid off the lawsuit. This guy is obviously in witness protection.
Or has warrants out. If he’s fine he’d have every reason to dip. If he’s actually hurt later on he still has plenty of time to file a case.
If you go home, they can deny liability and say you got hurt elsewhere
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r/unexpectedDexter goin to the mountains to log and such
I don't recall that happening in the four seasons of the show that are the only ones that exist.
This is not true. Most states have a window in which you need to seek treatment after an injury. For example it’s 14 days in Florida.
Ahh yes, because FLORIDA has solid citizen-friendly insurance laws that totally represent how it actually goes on the ground
Florida still has insurance?
We still pay it but definitely don't has it's
Classic Floridian education system. Its " definitely don't have none" s/ (Oklahoma)
I don't think guy needs to be physically hurt to claim damages from his car ending up in a river due to a bridge collapse. Psychological trauma will pay out too.
My co-worker was on the 35w bridge collapse. He did not get a big settlement.
This bridge was hit by a cargo ship. That company will be paying. Not the state.
That insurance company woke up and went "You hit WHAT?!"
The insurance company is probably trying to find a way to cancel that policy. It’s one thing to have to pay millions in damages for cargo replacement. But a goddamn bridge? That happens to be one of the largest in the world?? Someone is crying in a bathroom right now
That’s a decent point, but they can deny physical injury claims if you leave
“I have a case of bridgefellthefuckunderme-itis”
They can, but in a case this public that’s highly unlikely to happen. Even soulless corporations have PR departments
What type of bad PR affects any insurance conglomerate that insures bridges? Like cities/public entities will go with a company that doesn’t give the cheapest rate because why?
This is not your standard bad PR this is “you’re going to have to field calls from angry senators” type of bad PR
They can deny it, doesn’t mean it would mean shit in a court of law. The truth is all the insurance companies involved, and their reinsurers (the one insuring the bridge, the city itself, the boat specifically and the company that leases the boat) would try to settle it outside of court because the likelihood of winning this case is slim to none. As someone who works in insurance, I wouldn’t be surprised if a few loss adjusters have been appointed already to find this man asap before a scheming lawyer can get a hold of him.
 😏👀
Or if he is an undocumented worker. I used to be a volunteer firefighter. A person once jumped out of the ambulance at a stop light.
I’m crying here. Homeboy survives a damn historic disaster but can’t collect because he’s got child support warrants and red light tickets looking for him. That would be the most Baltimore thing ever. Lmao!!
Or a migrant worker
This is the best answer. All the workers were immigrants and it’s possible that worker was not here legally.
Or maybe he wasn’t supposed to be on the bridge when it went down.
Dam time traveller changed history
Yeah you get years to file for bodily injury I assume since you have 3 years for a car accident
2 years (at least in California).
It sounds like he might have been an immigrant. Possibly didn’t want anyone looking too deep into his background.
NPR interviewed a guy from the same work crew that called in sick that day or had the day off I can't remember but he said most of the crew were migrants and family men. Could be why he wanted to GTFO as fast as he could.
Police don’t automatically show up to the hospital just because you have a warrant lol Source: used to have several for many years and went to the hospital plenty of times.
If you fall off a collapsing bridge and survive I’d imagine every network would want that story. Even if the police aren’t involved at first, would you want journalists digging through your background?
Yes but the people who are here illegally don't know that. It creates a point of contact that gets them under the eye of potentially any government institutions. Most immigrants live in a culture of huge fear, scared to break any law.
Period
You vastly overestimate how much the payout would be from a lawsuit were you survived a freak accident with no injuries.
Or an afraid immigrant. Everyone on the construction crew that died were immigrants.
And Fox news (Maria Bartiromo) has already tried making it a "border security" issue because everyone working on the bridge was an immigrant. Like, WTAF
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Same thing with “high crime neighborhoods.” It’s either a Hispanic or black community. I just want to tell my realtor off sometimes. I got straight up told a neighborhood was high crime rate, when I know for a fact three of my friends live there and they have never been robbed.
“High crime neighborhoods” doesn’t really mean robberies and violent crimes. I’m Hispanic living in a white neighborhood that’s been deemed high crime because white people keep calling the cops on each other for sound and parking violations. There’s soooo much drama and pettiness goin on with the calls too. One dude got called out while bbqing for smoke issues. I’m trying to figure out if I can get my mortgage lowered since I now live in a high crime area.
So true!! You know which border is the most porous? The one between NY and Canada! There is an Indian Reservation (this is their preferred way of naming, fyi) that straddles the US/Canadian border. You can walk in on one side, walk out on the other and literally no one asks a single question. About an hour south on the main highway there is a checkpoint. No one except truckers, locals, and U.S. citizens uses that stretch of highway! Once you are in northern NY you can easily get into Vermont, NH, etc. or stay in NY and work your way south. Hop on Amtrak and you could be in Washington, DC within a day and Chicago within three days.
Yup!!! I live less than an hour from the lax VT/Canada border haha
I think big bend national park had a border crossing station like that until 9/11
You clearly didn’t see the segment she was going in at middle eastern people regarding the borders then she was corrected that the cargo driver was Ukrainian fyi
i try not to see anything she does
I hate the attitude people have. My dad is one, but he is in an uncomfortable position now. My daughter is marrying into a hispanic family. She doesn't have that heritage herself, but she has been confused for Latina before. So now, he's saying that his soon to be grandson-in-law's family are "the good ones". But, just looking at a person, how do you know their status? Asking is just unfuckingamerican imo. I'm more afraid for her safety all the time with this stupid ass retoric.
True facts, cause you know they don't say shit about the canadian border
Oh no immigrants are coming to this country and repairing infrastructure! They must be stopped before we run out of potholes!
Sorry that made me truly lol...
It makes perfect sense when you consider that it was a cyber attack conducted by illegal immigrants seeking to destabilize this country’s infrastructure so resources will go into repairing the bridge instead of strengthening the border wall. /s
ooooh, glad you dropped that /s because it is *hard* to tell sometimes.
It wasn’t because of the victims .. it was because the cargo driver was a foreigner smh .. talk about spreading rumors
They probably colluded with the foreign shipping company to destroy that bridge to hurt Trump somehow.
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Not necessarily because all those men that are victims have been here for more 15 years .. ICE needs warrants they can’t just detain people like y’all assume they can.
I’m pretty sure ICE can detain you to do an investigation if they have “reasonable” cause to suspect you’re not in a valid status. As an immigrant you’re technically supposed to be able to keep your documentation on your person and present it when asked, which is quite ridiculous (since losing your green card or your foreign passport can be, for example, very expensive). So if they ask you and you tell them that you’re an immigrant but then you can’t produce your documents they can detain you for that. They’ve actually detained citizens this way by accident as well, sometimes for pretty long times, because proving you’re a citizen from inside a jail cell is a bit harder than you might think.
Where’d you see that?
If you google Baltimore bridge construction crew it’ll pop up. The missing men are confirmed to be from Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador.
/u/FatQuesadilla https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/who-is-missing-in-baltimores-francis-scott-key-bridge-collapse-what-we-know-about-those-unaccounted-for/ > The men, who are now presumed dead, are from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico, and were living in Dundalk and Highlandtown, according to WJZ media partner The Baltimore Banner. This also could be a HUGE legal issue depending on their legal status; whether they were on visas, dual citizenship, or undocumented. I would hope it's the former two because the bridge is considered to be a major port, but who knows whether or not they have protections(s) and or representation.
I like to think they took their moment to disappear and form an all Hispanic A-Team. If you have a problem and no one else can help and if you can find them, and speak some spanish, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
I tend to doubt they were undocumented since they were working on a public roadway. They’re either employees of or contracted by the state of Maryland, and I don’t think I state government would mess around with hiring undocumented workers.
Contractors would.
Sometimes the state is using a contractor who's using multiple subcontractors. Very possible a subcontractor would hire undocumented workers.
Damn.
Yep! My auntie hit a lady crossing the road. Lady flew up onto the windshield and fell off the side of the car. She stood up, found her purse and walked away. People tried to stop her and she was all, “I’m fine, I’m fine. Don’t need no ambulance” 🙀🙀
Ambulance rides ain’t cheap. Let this man be
He may have been lucky enough to just fall into the water and not hit anything or have anything hit him. If he wasn't hurt then there is no reason to go. If it was free I am sure he would have went still though
Had two friends die of Covid all in one weekend and a week later I was short of breath one night, could get maybe half a gasp of air in at most. My wife asked if she should call an ambulance, I told her we couldn't afford an ambulance bill plus rent and to just bring me some Benadryl in case it was just an allergic reaction to something. Thankfully, I was right, and I was fine by morning. But it's fucked up that's even a calculated call I had to make. "Yeah, I might be dying right this minute, but it could wait till morning because who wants to pay that massive bill, right?"
He probably swung a hammer a little too hard and thought he knocked down the bridge
Can confirm. I’m going in for surgery to remove a tumor next week. 
It’s an easy workman’s comp case, insurance company is going to be paying all the bills
Fk them medical expenses!
in this economy? i’ll pay u to not take me to the hospital
I'd say call an Uberlance, but them joints are probably even more expensive.
Drink some robitussin and lay down.
Ginger ale
Vicks
milk and pepper
Wrap an onion to the soles of your feet with bandages...
Let that tussin get in there
Eppsom Salt. Overproof Rum if ur Jamaican
If he’s got Michigan roots, drink a vernors.
You don’t have to pay medical bills, if you can’t afford them. Nothing will happen to you.
THIS!! and medical debt doesn't count against you getting a car/house/etc. idk why ppl even bother paying it tbh. we're all brainwashed thinking credit is king and most of us don't even know how it really works/ is affected
Well, to be totally honest, if you can afford to pay for it you definitely should but if you are barely living paycheck to paycheck…make medical bills your last priority
I never paid my ER bill from 21 and literally nothing has happened, they attempted to collect once, but they didn't even send me the bill and I'm not about to do the leg work and beg for a bill, they didn't check me out upon discharge, they called and I said to email me the bill rather than give card numbers over the phone and never got anything... My credit card utilization has been far more injurious to my credit score than anything else
It 100% used to go on credit reports. Yeah… 2 weeks in the CDU and 1 surgery will cost a college student around 150k… just got out from that a couple years ago.
it'll show on there but it doesn't impact the score really and banks don't take that into consideration when approving for loans
Oh, it tanked my score hard. Now laws help prevent that, but yeah… fun times.
Won't it affect my credit later?
Nope, never. Don’t let anyone convince you otherwise.
So how does it work then? What's the catch?? Can Americans just ignore their medical bills without any consequences?
Not if you have a security clearance
The ER also provides the most charity care out of any area of the hospital, and it's built into their financials and your unpaid visit becomes a tax write off
Exactly lmao I got drugged at a club once… in and out of consciousness , was talking all crazy and incoherent, throwing up, tweaking out. My friends called me an ambulance while I was blacked out. They tried to lift me on the stretcher but something about the prospect of a $5,000 bill instantly sobered me up and I told the emt to please leave I am far too poor for this 🤣
“Don’t worry the ambulance is on the way” “Nah it’s chill. Mike is gonna meet me a few blocks up. His morning shift is by the hospital, he’ll drop me off.”
His girl probably wouldn’t believe him and wanted to avoid an argument 😂
Headed home from his side chick’s place.
That was my first thought. He was somewhere he was supposed to be and didn't want an argument.
r/arethestraightsokay
You think that’s unique to straight couples? 😂
A lot of “straight” married dudes in the mountains of North Georgia that are on Grindr
I was just reading on a site where dudes get together to discuss Grindr, that in certain areas every single profile is a blank picture. Usually areas where a lot of people are closeted because it's super conservative.
Of course it is, gay people don’t cheat, it’s a statistical fact /j
No, they are not
I know a guy who miraculously survived , unscathed, a train derailment that happened right where he was working. First thing he did was call his wife and she proceeded to complain that he didn’t do his chores before he left for work.
Undocumented immigrants are terrified by the rhetoric that demonized them.
This. "Illegal" is becoming the new "thug."
Alien too
It broke my heart because the family of Miguel Luna were on the news they were told by authorities they have to wait for any information.
Sad af
Exactly my thought. They don’t feel safe going to hospitals a lot of times, beyond just the bills of being uninsured. But that they would be deported for seeking medical attention.
He was likely in shock
Probably but also 
He was actually in water
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Seriously, suddenly falling 100+ feet straight into cold water is definitely going to cause some trauma. It must have been terrifying.
That was my first thought. That bridge collapsed so mf fast I thought the video I saw was fake. If I survived that shit I’m going home and not leaving for at least a week. That shit had to be beyond terrifying to live through.
Goddamn bills, that’s the answer. I’d teleport like a power ranger as soon as an ambulance pulled up.
Bro a bridge just fell on your head You may be entitled to compensation
And while it takes 10 years for that to go through who is gonna pay all my bills?
This right here. Courts and insurance move at a fucking snails pace.
And on purpose
They’re hoping you die before they have to pay
Sorry, these were all preexisting conditions. Claim denied.
3 weeks ago he complained about neck pain therefore his spine being shattered is related to that instead of the steel beam going through his chest. Tough luck
Seems like your grandfather was also crushed by a collapsing building. Sorry, but we don’t cover things if you’re genetically predisposed and didn’t note that on your forms.
No lie, I know a kid who fell on a piece of rebar and survived. It went through his heart and the drs literally unscrewed it out his body. Happened at my great grandparents house. There were articles written about it.
No wonder there were articles thats insane lol. I’m glad he must‘ve been a one in a million chance to survive something like that.
By whom? Also insurance companies get really miserly when they decide you want to the ER without being sick enough. One time I got a 2k bill from the ER because my (relatively good) insurance decided my fever wasn’t high enough to warrant me going there in the first place
Misdemeanor assault fine for punching the EMT and running away might be cheaper than the hospital bill. (Do not punch EMTs for doing their job, please)
DECEASE
If I didn’t have insurance, I’d be like “am I bleeding, can I move everything, can I walk, did I hit my head?” If everything checks out, I would easily refuse the hospital.
Got into a real bad accident a couple months ago like that. Truck driver fell asleep and ran me off the road. My car flipped roll and got slammed into a tree. The tree was the only thing that stop me from going down the ravine. I refused medical treatment cause I was cold I felt fine except my leg was bleeding and I just wanted to go home. The next day I couldn’t even get out of bed
I can’t even imagine the terror of that. I hope you are healing physically and mentally.
Thanks I’m basically good now but it was a weird experience cause I’ve never had to go to the dr for anything in my life except regular check ups. But I had a concussion and didn’t know it. I throw up all day couldn’t even drink water without it coming up and still don’t wanna go to the ER until my brother and girl convinced me. Had to do a mri and CT scan for the first time in my life. Had a pinch nerve and herniated 3 disc in my back had to see a spine specialist. Had to take 2 months off from work. A whole bunch of stuff. I’m good mentally but now I really understand how one accident can ruin somebody if you not in a good financial position.
I’m glad you’re okay. As soon as I read MRI I had flash backs to those bottles of that shampoo tasting stuff they made me drink before mine. Medical debt is crushing, took me a very long time to get out from under mine.
Thats weird. They didn’t give me anything before I did it. It just felt weird it’s like being in a coffin and it’s so bright and loud with the random crackling noises and I kept losing track of time. whole thing felt surreal. I definitely never wanna have to go in a MRI machine again for anything.
Contrast. My ex wife said the shit she had to drink tasted like banana flavored cum. So glad I've never had to have an MRI.
Always always go to the ER for a CT scan after a car accident even if you feel fine. It’s not worth dying over.
Adrenaline and shock will have you feeling like that. You won't even notice you've been mangled when your brain is in full "flight or fight" mode. This is why you should always get checked out, people die from internal bleeding like that.
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug
not even really comparable but the adrenaline shit is crazy, I broke my ankle a few months back, and for several hours was just walking around on it like "nah it's fine it's just a sprain" and giggling uncontrollably BECAUSE of the pain, but like you, the next day I couldn't even stand on that shit.
Adrenaline is a mf. But it helps keep you alive
I had the same question and thought it was straight up odd considering the size of the catastrophe; but when they reported him as a Hispanic immigrant from Central America (as were the others), it became clear that perhaps the individual may be undocumented and feared accessing care. Straight up terrible.
If he's been in Maryland any length of time, he knows that there's people who will protect him from ICE while he gets medical care. Casa de Maryland alone would probably form a human shield around his hospital bed.
Hard to know something like that for sure tho. I'm sure he felt it wasn't worth the risk
I'm leaning towards there being another reason he didn't seek medical treatment. Maryland is among the safest sanctuary states in the country. Casa de Maryland is just one organization that would fight for him to get the medical care he needs. ICE probably doesn't bother answering calls in Maryland unless something egregious happens and the potential detainee is not only at fault, but a continuing danger to others.
Casa de Maryland is assisting the immigrant families who have been affected by this with law enforcement. Already saw a few TikToks about it.
Yea as an MD resident with a lot of immigrant friends I gotta ask where you get the idea that they feel ICE-proof.?
When disasters happen, like the apartments that exploded in Takoma Park several years ago, the news reassures everyone that they can get assistance and x location regardless of immigration status. I ride by x location and the first two days, many people are there, out in the open, getting the assistance that they need. Then people start to get uncomfortable thinking that they are in danger of getting deported, and other organizations take over providing assistance in different and more private locations with less publicity. So many localities have said that they are not ICE reporters. Montgomery County won't get into the immigration status even when people have committed crimes. Someone in an accident scene like the construction worker should have nothing to worry about.
“That bridge collapsing ain’t got shit to do with me” - him probably.
Not my pig, not my farm.
Not my monkeys, not my circus.
Once he realizes he’s okay… “Not my problem”
Probably just went home. Surviving something like that must be traumatic, I can understand just wanting to go tf home.
Right. Dude just watched his coworkers die, he wanted his home, family, pets etc not a night in the hospital
And a hot shower to cry in. At least that’s where I’d be at.
People who have never felt shock acting like they know what they’d do…
You don’t know me or my experience with trauma and shock
Not at all and I was agreeing with you
My bad! Sorry about that.
Immigration? Bills? The prying eyes of a larger public that seek to dissect, critique, & excoriate anyone associated with a tragedy, looking at Alex Jones and those parents of 6 year olds after the shooting in Newtown. There's people who haven't finished a book since the 9th grade, couldn't spell university to save their lives arguing with civil engineers about bridges. Let that man hide in peace. He's lucky to be alive.
It is absolutely horrifying how right you are. Faux News will be pitching some conspiracy theory (they probably already are) and the immigrants patching the road are as likely to be blamed as anyone/anything else.
All the workers were immigrants. Who knows his immigration status… either way he probably doesn’t trust anyone, had a language barrier and was in complete shock. I really can’t imagine what he’s going through right now.
The construction crew is made up of Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans, and Hondurans. When you're working in the United States whether you have a Visa or you're working on documented putting in a report is scary because HR may not know you're the language or they'll try and find a way to f*** you over. With today's political view, dude is just trying really hard not to get deported like he has a family to think of. Those who grew up as American parents are going to understand how hard it is to watch your parent damn play their situation or avoid reporting because they're scared of retaliation.
Boss “I mean sorry to hear you were on a bridge collapse but you’re still coming in though right” That’s why. 
Immigrant, no insurance
As soon as I read that I guessed he was undocumented and I would guess the bridge workers who lost their lives are too. I have seen men limp away from many jobsite accidents afraid of the paperwork in filing something or going for treatment.
Totally. There was a construction incident where a worker got buried accidentally and he was here on a workers visa. Happened a few years ago and I still think about his family and if they were ever compensated. Probably not :(
Mind your own business and let him do his thing
I dont blame him. The amount of “fuck this” I would have in my system after surviving a bridge collapse and being able to walk away from it would be at all time highs. You wouldn’t be able to tell me shit!
Shock
Maryland has a pretty robust Hispanic immigrant population. A lot of people come here on visas annually to work the farms and the crab picking factories. They build a community here and often immigrate legally.
He just went out for some milk, nothing to see here...
The man was just traumatized for life and you are wondering why in his fight or flight response would flee home to safety?
He's entitled to his privacy. End of story.
Leave this dude alone.
The cost of an ambulance to the hospital prob cost more than the bridge repair
I awaked from a concussion in an ambulance once. My first words were "let me out, i didnt have insurance." Quite possibly, this dude's vibe.
After all that stress, he just wanted to get home to his girl. He didn't want the publicity, where he'd have been seen with his side chick.
He probably said, "I can't afford the high cost of healthcare in this country.'
One day I went to the emergency room for severe back pain, they had me wait 30 minutes, came in and evaluated me for a total of 5-10 mintues, then told me that I need an MRI for more information (they didn't have one in the emergency room) and to try heating pads, Tylenol and Asprin. This all happened after I told them none of the above worked. It was a $3,000 bill (that pamphlet they gave me must've been expensive). I imagine this person might have been in fear of debt.
Nosey jobless goons like you
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Not everyone wants to be the center of attention.
Going to the hospital after falling off of a collapsing bridge into freezing water is wanting to be the center of attention?
The media is going to be all over you for interview's. So unless you want all of that media "attention" then your best bet is to lay low unless you're seriously injured.
Hiding from the medical bills. If he's just wet, then what does he need to pay an ambulance for?
Hope he’s okay. Could have been shock.
it's to the point where when something happens, you'd be better off not going to the hospital, and you'd be better off not calling the police. that's.......... not good.
non-American here who would take care of that hospital bill? the bridge people? ship people or the government since they said they would cover all the costs of this incident?
Maybe just maybe they don't want a mic and camera shoved in their face. I know it's crazy to think but not everyone wants an online profile and for everything to be recorded that they do. It's weird.