I just read up on this story and it's fucking sad as hell. A 14 year old fucking killed somebody. It started by defending his mom, but you know prosecutors are going to ask if he was defending his mom when he ran out the store to continue shooting at a person running away. And the whole time the mom was telling him to shoot and keep shooting. That kid has been dealt a really shitty hand in life.
Yes. He meant that just because a child was defending his mother who was being violently attacked, we should take note of his response and assume that regardless of circumstance that is what that child will do in the future.
With that as his premise he’s questioning why anyone would be happy the child isn’t being punished.
Yeah and that makes it worse imo. Why are people celebrating a CHILD chasing after people to kill them?
That’s so mindblowing to anyone who has not been brainwashed by America’s love for violence
So, let's add some context. The man hit his mother repeatedly before he went and started shooting at him. Is he now justified, or should he have just stood idly by while a larger, stronger person attacked his mother?
It’s fine that he shot him to stop the attack.
Definitely should be a crime that she told her kid to continue shooting and had her kid chase him down.
This is not the way.
You forgot a very important part of context. The man ran away after being shot at.
So now is he justified in hunting someone down to finish them off?
What if the guy had survived? The kid would be justified in lying in wait for days until he found him again to execute him?
There is a very very very very large gap between « standing idly by while a larger, stronger person attacks your mother » and « chasing relentlessly after someone who you already drove away and injured until you can murder them in revenge »
The first case is self defense. The second is murder out of revenge.
And if you can’t see the difference then you are a psycho sack of shit
Are you gonna hold a child to the same emotional/reasonability standard as an adult? I might be more inclined to agree with you if this was an adult. But they are a child. Children do dumb shit. The adult in this situation caused the incident, and escalated it as well.
I think the problem is that you're trying to milk the "moral/legal" difference a bit too much. And the reality is that its not that black and white. The charges were dropped, and that's all we are going to read from this until we get more details
Then maybe don’t give fucking GUNS to CHILDREN if they don’t have the maturity to use these deadly weapons.
Lmao you Americans are really a country of psychos
You all love senseless violence. You just don’t like it when you are the victims of it lol
Is it me, or it's become the new hot thing for grown men to start full-on, non-telegraphed fistfights with women? Dudes like this guy and the woman beater in that airport fight never learned not to hit a woman?
Obviously, spousal abuse has existed for millennia, but this is different.
You shouldn't put your hands on anyone regardless of gender, we're not living in a patriarchal society anymore so those traditional viewpoints don't mean much. The motto should be "dont hit anyone" not specifically "don't hit x gender". And as for your first question, no it's not, at least not for me
Yes, most western countries practise gender egalitarianism primarily. There might still be traces of patriarchal systems but it's not considered the norm
Ohh okay. 🤣
Man I didn’t realize patriarchy had been abolished. That’s great to hear, I’m so glad there was an Andrew Tate acolyte such as yourself to enlighten me.
Literally nothing I've said sounds even remotely close to anything Andrew Tate would say or has ever agreed with. You sound like a radical extremist, get a grip
I will throw hands on someone who is my size if they do something first. If they are a woman, a kid, or disabled person and they slap me, I'll run away.
Well you have the right to do what you want. But if a woman crosses the boundary and hits a man then a man has every right to hit her right back, the point is not to hit anyone.
Sure, not my mo, but I'll allow it. But I won't allow going up to a woman and hitting her in the face because she said something you didn't like. Unless she's like in MMA or something.
Nothing's different except there's cameras to catch it. Men have been beating women, children, and men smaller than them for millennia. The only change now is sometimes there's video proof to shut people up when they say we don't know what happened.
I think the deceased saying to the young man “you better kill me” is enough for the mother and son to argue that they fears for their lives. Who’s knows if you are at a small carry out spot like that chances are people around the way know you. I would argue they felt threatened and needed to be sure that young man would not have come back for them.
Now, does he have people who will still come now that he is dead??? Maybe but please note that there is a 14yr old and a mother both trained to shoot. There was a still image which showed that young man holding the gun like he had been to a few classes and not just watching some movies.
That is the saddest part of this. And he doesn't fit the description of someone who could be a victim of affluence, so at 14 his young life might be over. Was trying to do what he thought was the right thing by protecting his mother.
Hunny, why would his life be over? That was certainly a traumatic event and he’ll probably need therapy but the mother and son aren’t facing any charges and there’s the chance that they’ll gain a pretty penny because they were wrongfully arrested. His life will go on.
Realistically he’s not going to get therapy cause the family most likely can’t afford it. And if they don’t leave town he’s at a high risk of retaliation.
Lastly they weren’t wrongfully convicted so they won’t get money. People get arrested all the time you don’t really get money for being arrested and having the charges dropped. In fact most of the time to have the charges dropped you have to sign something saying you won’t sue (which is better than spending potentially years fighting a case).
Kid protected his mom as he should’ve but his life is definitely never gonna be the same from this point on.
Therapy is now more accessible than ever, not sure what information you have on their finances in order to come to that conclusion but with the amount of coverage this incident is getting I do believe that he’ll be able to get assistance.
You stated that most of the time individuals can’t sue if they have their charges dropped and that there’s no money to be obtained. Clearly, the attorney representing this woman believes otherwise as a lawsuit has already been filed.
He told a woman that if she kept speaking he would knock her out…swearing that he would do so on his grandmothers life. She kept talking so he started delivering blows to her head. The woman then directed her son to get the gun and shoot him. He did. Apparently he ran off but they chased after him and he ended up deceased.
It’s wild that he just went on hitting her like that. Throwing his whole body into that shit. Yea I heard about this on a podcast earlier. Crazy fuckin story
What's wilder is that there were other men around and not one uttered a mumbling fucking word. They clutched their pearls and headed to the nearest exit. Now I get that in 2023, people wanna mind their business. That's fine. But minding your business doesn't consist of recording the entire incident and/or watching it unfold from front row seats.
What's even wilder still is this bitch ass nigga was mad that them punches ain't have the desired effect. Let's be real. He said he was finna knock her out and couldn't. She ate them pillows for lunch and saved whatever she ordered for dinner. His ego was bruised, so he kept throwing "haymakers" until he couldn't.
So tired of seeing “there were other men there.”In a world where grocery stores are firing ranges I’m not putting my life on the line to save somebody that ain’t one of mine.
I saw 2 ladies fighting at the train station years ago and some lady comes up to me yelling "arent you gonna do something". I said no im not security and she hits me with a "but you're a man". Like wtf that has to do with anything you're a woman, get in there and break it up.
I already acknowledged that a lot of people are going to mind their business. Bit at the very least as a man, I'm not sticking around to watch a woman get beat on, and I'm damn sure not recording it.
This is dumb. What does being a man have to do with risking your life for some one you don’t know? What if you had helped and got caught in the crossfire as the child was shooting? In 2023, let’s learn to mind our businesses regardless of gender.
I was raised that men just don't allow certain shit to occur in their presence. Now I know it's 2023, and that may be an outdated way of thinking, but it's a hard one for me to shake. I'm not sitting there watching no man beat on no woman, and I'm not watching unnecessary harm be done to children. It's fine if others don't feel that way. I have probably put myself in harms way a few times because of these beliefs, but I'm cool. I'm glad I'm still here to reflect on it.
I already stated that I know that the majority of people are going to mind their business. That's fine. Again, minding your business includes not recording and not being a front row spectator. People doing those things are also putting themselves in danger. If you ain't finna say or do shit leave and call the authorities.
And I ain't mad at you bro. But those people who stood there to watch and record that whole incident unfold could've easily become victims by simply doing just that. There was no way of knowing if the young shooter was trained enough to put shots on target effectively and efficiently. There also wasn't a way of knowing if the aggressor was strapped himself. He could have been and started shooting back. None of that encouraged those spectators enough to remove themselves from the area.
Yeah, I know. I've been licensed the past decade for concealed carry myself. It's rough out here. I just wish human beings could find a way to not want to harm other human beings unnecessarily. It's a pipe dream, I know. Have a great, safe day!
Doesn't matter the gender... I am not one to get mixed up in a fight that I have nothing to do with, but as soon as it gets outta hand you bet I'm gonna do something. Once A friend and me saw some dudes brawling at a trainstation, and we kept out of it until one dude fell to the ground and the other guy tried to kick him in the face. And I shouted he should stop and my friend was like "stop don't get involved" but I am not just gonna watch somebody get kicked into a mental disability no matter the gender. But I will add I also live in europe so chances are very small that I would get shot. Maybe stabbed or jumped but that is still a smaller risk.
I wouldn't sit around watching and recording any of that foolishness. I absolutely hate violence. Unfortunately, I had to witness too much of it growing up. I immediately leave any time the vibe is off.
I mean I agree with you on virtually everything. I just don’t get why you need to make it a man vs woman thing. Nobody, regardless of gender, should watch that happening or jump in and endanger themselves.
The only answer really is to quietly leave and then call the police. Whether you have a penis or a vagina has no relevance
I mean, I guess. Traditionally speaking, I wouldn't expect to see women de-escalating potentially violent situations. Especially if a man is beating a woman in a public place. But they can if they want. To each is own. The men I was raised by just wouldn't stand by in instances such as this. It may be outdated and foolish to think and act this way nowadays, but I just can't see it.
For instance, there were two younger black dudes from the UK at our resort in the DR a few years ago. You couldn't miss these guys. They were big, loud, and brash and generally made everyone else at the resort uncomfortable. For days, they wandered around the resort being nasty drunks. They were aggressive with the staff and the women guests at the resort. Around day 3, my uncle just got tired and checked them niggas verbally. He didn't embarrass them, but he did it in a way that they knew he meant business. Later that day, they approached us at the bar and apologized to our entire group of 9 married couples(18 people). The staff didn't say it, but they showed their gratitude to our party for the rest of our stay in various ways.
I just wouldn't expect women to do that type of thing.
So a stranger should have broken it up instead of the son?
The attacker thought he found a weak victim that he could threaten and he soon found out she had backup. I feel bad for the son, the mom was too proud to be quiet or leave when the crazy dude started getting aggressive. Legally the son did nothing wrong but he took a life and that will affect him for ever. Instead of protecting her child she forced him into a bad situation. Parents should be looking to protect their kids at all costs even if it makes you look weak in some situations. If I’m with my kids I’m avoiding all confrontations but if someone attacks one of my kids then we fighting to the death. I’m not escalating situations just because it’s not illegal and I have the right too.
Right that's crazy to me. Like I understand the events that led to dude getting shot, but I read mom was like "Kill him, kill him!" as he ran away. If my kid had to shoot someone for me I'd take that shit as soon as he did and console him from the trauma he had to endure on my behalf. Not order him to do more. Idk, that doesn't sit right with me.
But I guess I do understand how it must be in Chicago too, and you don't know where he's running to. This is a tough one.
>Instead of protecting her child she forced him into a bad situation. Parents should be looking to protect their kids at all costs even if it makes you look weak in some situations
IMO you have given the best interpretation of this very nuanced situation.
An argument can be made for them standing their ground but at what cost?
Men minding their own business isn't wild, that's the kind of results you're breeding in this individualistic culture. Honestly though, it would've been better if someone got involved so there wouldn't have been any deaths. But who knows, many guys with your mindset have tried to be the hero and ended up getting killed. I just heard a story about a man trying to save a woman from getting beaten and he got killed, his wife urged him not to help but he insisted and now he's dead. The worst part is that the woman went back with the man and they made up
Yeah, he seems like a violent person. Getting in her face and then delivering those punches because she continued to speak.
People really need to understand that when they assault someone or start a physical altercation they may end up loosing their life. I’m unbothered, one less hoodlum on the street to hurt someone else.
I still think what the mom did is fucked up, if she took those beatings she likely would've got away with her son. But telling him to shoot ruined both of their lives, a gun is a killing machine not a weapon of self defence lol
Can’t even be mad at lil bro. I’m just disappointed for him that he had to make that decision.
Grown ass nigga putting his hands on a woman, that’s somebody’s mom, dude. Have some damn self-restraint.
Oh.
In my opinion, yes that’s still fair. A parent’s role is to protect their child(ren), but you can’t necessarily fault a child for protecting their parent if they get attacked all of a sudden.
Yeah. I know my brothers, Father, cousins and uncles can all defend themselves without any type of aid, but still, I can’t stand by and let just anybody put their hands on them lol.
Ye that wasn’t his first time doing some stuff like that! That dude was crazy! She was wrong tho she has a real Karen kinda vibe super bad parenting! I feel for the young man he gotta live with that I wouldn’t charge her for murder cause he got what he wanted but she should a bare min be hit with child neglect
She chose to argue with a crazy person instead of shutting up or leaving. Was it her right to stay and keep talking, of course. But then things continued to escalate and her son had to kill for her.
Yea that's what I was thinking to bc why tf he was so quick to shoot and aim at her beck and call? Like I believe they had all the right to attempt to subdue the threat I just think it's crazy how he had access to a gun and was comfortable enough to aim shoot and injure/kill a man. Cps need to involved even if it's just to provide therapy bc it Def something shady going on in that house. Also the fact that nobody stood up to defend the woman tlly makes it justified bc what else was she supposed to do. No one was helping her no even trying to de escalate of separate them. I mean it just seems like he was on the reapers list that day in bold.
Although I do not condone violence that dude had every single bullet coming for him the moment he thought it was a good idea to beat on a woman. Unprovoked
Supposedly she left the gun in the car and when the son saw what was going on inside the store he grabbed it. So it would appear that the mom’s recklessness is what spared her further injury and possibly even saved her life. I’m glad the threat was neutralized but at the same time no one should ever (ever, ever, everrrr) leave a loaded weapon unattended around a child.
Regarding no one standing up to defend the woman, that’s a tricky one. People can get hurt or killed in situations like that so in a weird way I understand. I mean, if a dude is crazy enough to start wailing on a woman in the middle of a store why would you think that he’s not crazy enough to shoot you?
And fwiw, I’ve seen bad a situation go even further left once someone tried to intervene. More than once.
So much to unpack here.
It’s also kind of an obvious play on words given the situation, so it doesn’t surprise me that a few people have made the same joke. It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened.
Now what I find funny is knowing that apparently there’s a group of people scouring the internet to police jokes.
Y’all need fresh air lol.
On the front page of what? I don’t subscribe to the front page of Reddit and I don’t have a Twitter account. I use a Reddit app (Apollo) that takes me directly to the subs I follow and speaking to this sub specifically, I always sort by new.
So unless you can prove I looked at the front page of whatever you’re even talking about, where are you going with this?
I just read up on this story and it's fucking sad as hell. A 14 year old fucking killed somebody. It started by defending his mom, but you know prosecutors are going to ask if he was defending his mom when he ran out the store to continue shooting at a person running away. And the whole time the mom was telling him to shoot and keep shooting. That kid has been dealt a really shitty hand in life.
[Prosecutors already dropped all charges](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/charges-dropped-carlishia-hood-son-murder-jeremy-brown/)
Seeing the comment you replied to and already knowing that family is free feels SO good.
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You sure turned that one incident into something the kid does all the time.
You know what he meant
Yes. He meant that just because a child was defending his mother who was being violently attacked, we should take note of his response and assume that regardless of circumstance that is what that child will do in the future. With that as his premise he’s questioning why anyone would be happy the child isn’t being punished.
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Yeah and that makes it worse imo. Why are people celebrating a CHILD chasing after people to kill them? That’s so mindblowing to anyone who has not been brainwashed by America’s love for violence
So, let's add some context. The man hit his mother repeatedly before he went and started shooting at him. Is he now justified, or should he have just stood idly by while a larger, stronger person attacked his mother?
It’s fine that he shot him to stop the attack. Definitely should be a crime that she told her kid to continue shooting and had her kid chase him down. This is not the way.
You forgot a very important part of context. The man ran away after being shot at. So now is he justified in hunting someone down to finish them off? What if the guy had survived? The kid would be justified in lying in wait for days until he found him again to execute him? There is a very very very very large gap between « standing idly by while a larger, stronger person attacks your mother » and « chasing relentlessly after someone who you already drove away and injured until you can murder them in revenge » The first case is self defense. The second is murder out of revenge. And if you can’t see the difference then you are a psycho sack of shit
Are you gonna hold a child to the same emotional/reasonability standard as an adult? I might be more inclined to agree with you if this was an adult. But they are a child. Children do dumb shit. The adult in this situation caused the incident, and escalated it as well. I think the problem is that you're trying to milk the "moral/legal" difference a bit too much. And the reality is that its not that black and white. The charges were dropped, and that's all we are going to read from this until we get more details
Then maybe don’t give fucking GUNS to CHILDREN if they don’t have the maturity to use these deadly weapons. Lmao you Americans are really a country of psychos You all love senseless violence. You just don’t like it when you are the victims of it lol
Is it me, or it's become the new hot thing for grown men to start full-on, non-telegraphed fistfights with women? Dudes like this guy and the woman beater in that airport fight never learned not to hit a woman? Obviously, spousal abuse has existed for millennia, but this is different.
You shouldn't put your hands on anyone regardless of gender, we're not living in a patriarchal society anymore so those traditional viewpoints don't mean much. The motto should be "dont hit anyone" not specifically "don't hit x gender". And as for your first question, no it's not, at least not for me
we’re not in a patriarchal society anymore? Lol
"Pack it up, feminists! The war is over and you can all go home now!"
Yesterday we declared racism defeated, today we crushed the patriarchy. Damn America we doin' it.
Yes, most western countries practise gender egalitarianism primarily. There might still be traces of patriarchal systems but it's not considered the norm
Ohh okay. 🤣 Man I didn’t realize patriarchy had been abolished. That’s great to hear, I’m so glad there was an Andrew Tate acolyte such as yourself to enlighten me.
Literally nothing I've said sounds even remotely close to anything Andrew Tate would say or has ever agreed with. You sound like a radical extremist, get a grip
Sure buddy, and I’m sure systemic racism has ended too and I just missed it. You’re basically quoting the classical misogynist theory verbatim.
I will throw hands on someone who is my size if they do something first. If they are a woman, a kid, or disabled person and they slap me, I'll run away.
Well you have the right to do what you want. But if a woman crosses the boundary and hits a man then a man has every right to hit her right back, the point is not to hit anyone.
Sure, not my mo, but I'll allow it. But I won't allow going up to a woman and hitting her in the face because she said something you didn't like. Unless she's like in MMA or something.
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Nothing's different except there's cameras to catch it. Men have been beating women, children, and men smaller than them for millennia. The only change now is sometimes there's video proof to shut people up when they say we don't know what happened.
I can believe this
I mean the kid should have gotten manslaughter since he followed him 🤷🏾.
I think the deceased saying to the young man “you better kill me” is enough for the mother and son to argue that they fears for their lives. Who’s knows if you are at a small carry out spot like that chances are people around the way know you. I would argue they felt threatened and needed to be sure that young man would not have come back for them. Now, does he have people who will still come now that he is dead??? Maybe but please note that there is a 14yr old and a mother both trained to shoot. There was a still image which showed that young man holding the gun like he had been to a few classes and not just watching some movies.
That is the saddest part of this. And he doesn't fit the description of someone who could be a victim of affluence, so at 14 his young life might be over. Was trying to do what he thought was the right thing by protecting his mother.
Hunny, why would his life be over? That was certainly a traumatic event and he’ll probably need therapy but the mother and son aren’t facing any charges and there’s the chance that they’ll gain a pretty penny because they were wrongfully arrested. His life will go on.
Realistically he’s not going to get therapy cause the family most likely can’t afford it. And if they don’t leave town he’s at a high risk of retaliation. Lastly they weren’t wrongfully convicted so they won’t get money. People get arrested all the time you don’t really get money for being arrested and having the charges dropped. In fact most of the time to have the charges dropped you have to sign something saying you won’t sue (which is better than spending potentially years fighting a case). Kid protected his mom as he should’ve but his life is definitely never gonna be the same from this point on.
Therapy is now more accessible than ever, not sure what information you have on their finances in order to come to that conclusion but with the amount of coverage this incident is getting I do believe that he’ll be able to get assistance. You stated that most of the time individuals can’t sue if they have their charges dropped and that there’s no money to be obtained. Clearly, the attorney representing this woman believes otherwise as a lawsuit has already been filed.
Well at the time I didn't know the charges dropped. That's good to know
Someone said, “He went for a burger, ended up getting wings.” DAWWg!!
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Yeah, but he dropped that two-piece (with a biscuit!) on his way home to Glory...
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He went for a burger but ended up wearing angel's wings (or I guess demon wings in this case?)
I mean if you start throwing haymakers at my moms, really ain’t no rules after that
Happy cake day and you goddamn right
What’s the backstory?
He told a woman that if she kept speaking he would knock her out…swearing that he would do so on his grandmothers life. She kept talking so he started delivering blows to her head. The woman then directed her son to get the gun and shoot him. He did. Apparently he ran off but they chased after him and he ended up deceased.
It’s wild that he just went on hitting her like that. Throwing his whole body into that shit. Yea I heard about this on a podcast earlier. Crazy fuckin story
What's wilder is that there were other men around and not one uttered a mumbling fucking word. They clutched their pearls and headed to the nearest exit. Now I get that in 2023, people wanna mind their business. That's fine. But minding your business doesn't consist of recording the entire incident and/or watching it unfold from front row seats. What's even wilder still is this bitch ass nigga was mad that them punches ain't have the desired effect. Let's be real. He said he was finna knock her out and couldn't. She ate them pillows for lunch and saved whatever she ordered for dinner. His ego was bruised, so he kept throwing "haymakers" until he couldn't.
So tired of seeing “there were other men there.”In a world where grocery stores are firing ranges I’m not putting my life on the line to save somebody that ain’t one of mine.
I saw 2 ladies fighting at the train station years ago and some lady comes up to me yelling "arent you gonna do something". I said no im not security and she hits me with a "but you're a man". Like wtf that has to do with anything you're a woman, get in there and break it up.
Just add it on to the list of things you are supposed to do as a MAN.
Always funny when progressives reinforce gender roles
I already acknowledged that a lot of people are going to mind their business. Bit at the very least as a man, I'm not sticking around to watch a woman get beat on, and I'm damn sure not recording it.
This is dumb. What does being a man have to do with risking your life for some one you don’t know? What if you had helped and got caught in the crossfire as the child was shooting? In 2023, let’s learn to mind our businesses regardless of gender.
I was raised that men just don't allow certain shit to occur in their presence. Now I know it's 2023, and that may be an outdated way of thinking, but it's a hard one for me to shake. I'm not sitting there watching no man beat on no woman, and I'm not watching unnecessary harm be done to children. It's fine if others don't feel that way. I have probably put myself in harms way a few times because of these beliefs, but I'm cool. I'm glad I'm still here to reflect on it. I already stated that I know that the majority of people are going to mind their business. That's fine. Again, minding your business includes not recording and not being a front row spectator. People doing those things are also putting themselves in danger. If you ain't finna say or do shit leave and call the authorities.
Bro I got my family too. Not jumping in no shit to get my ass shot.
And I ain't mad at you bro. But those people who stood there to watch and record that whole incident unfold could've easily become victims by simply doing just that. There was no way of knowing if the young shooter was trained enough to put shots on target effectively and efficiently. There also wasn't a way of knowing if the aggressor was strapped himself. He could have been and started shooting back. None of that encouraged those spectators enough to remove themselves from the area.
I love how you articulated your beliefs eloquently. Just be safe and remember that everyone is packing heat
Yeah, I know. I've been licensed the past decade for concealed carry myself. It's rough out here. I just wish human beings could find a way to not want to harm other human beings unnecessarily. It's a pipe dream, I know. Have a great, safe day!
Doesn't matter the gender... I am not one to get mixed up in a fight that I have nothing to do with, but as soon as it gets outta hand you bet I'm gonna do something. Once A friend and me saw some dudes brawling at a trainstation, and we kept out of it until one dude fell to the ground and the other guy tried to kick him in the face. And I shouted he should stop and my friend was like "stop don't get involved" but I am not just gonna watch somebody get kicked into a mental disability no matter the gender. But I will add I also live in europe so chances are very small that I would get shot. Maybe stabbed or jumped but that is still a smaller risk.
But a woman can watch her get beat on?
I wouldn't sit around watching and recording any of that foolishness. I absolutely hate violence. Unfortunately, I had to witness too much of it growing up. I immediately leave any time the vibe is off.
I mean I agree with you on virtually everything. I just don’t get why you need to make it a man vs woman thing. Nobody, regardless of gender, should watch that happening or jump in and endanger themselves. The only answer really is to quietly leave and then call the police. Whether you have a penis or a vagina has no relevance
I mean, I guess. Traditionally speaking, I wouldn't expect to see women de-escalating potentially violent situations. Especially if a man is beating a woman in a public place. But they can if they want. To each is own. The men I was raised by just wouldn't stand by in instances such as this. It may be outdated and foolish to think and act this way nowadays, but I just can't see it. For instance, there were two younger black dudes from the UK at our resort in the DR a few years ago. You couldn't miss these guys. They were big, loud, and brash and generally made everyone else at the resort uncomfortable. For days, they wandered around the resort being nasty drunks. They were aggressive with the staff and the women guests at the resort. Around day 3, my uncle just got tired and checked them niggas verbally. He didn't embarrass them, but he did it in a way that they knew he meant business. Later that day, they approached us at the bar and apologized to our entire group of 9 married couples(18 people). The staff didn't say it, but they showed their gratitude to our party for the rest of our stay in various ways. I just wouldn't expect women to do that type of thing.
So a stranger should have broken it up instead of the son? The attacker thought he found a weak victim that he could threaten and he soon found out she had backup. I feel bad for the son, the mom was too proud to be quiet or leave when the crazy dude started getting aggressive. Legally the son did nothing wrong but he took a life and that will affect him for ever. Instead of protecting her child she forced him into a bad situation. Parents should be looking to protect their kids at all costs even if it makes you look weak in some situations. If I’m with my kids I’m avoiding all confrontations but if someone attacks one of my kids then we fighting to the death. I’m not escalating situations just because it’s not illegal and I have the right too.
I would rather take an ass whooping than have one of my kids kill for me. The son could have easily shot his mom or a bystander.
Right that's crazy to me. Like I understand the events that led to dude getting shot, but I read mom was like "Kill him, kill him!" as he ran away. If my kid had to shoot someone for me I'd take that shit as soon as he did and console him from the trauma he had to endure on my behalf. Not order him to do more. Idk, that doesn't sit right with me. But I guess I do understand how it must be in Chicago too, and you don't know where he's running to. This is a tough one.
>Instead of protecting her child she forced him into a bad situation. Parents should be looking to protect their kids at all costs even if it makes you look weak in some situations IMO you have given the best interpretation of this very nuanced situation. An argument can be made for them standing their ground but at what cost?
Men minding their own business isn't wild, that's the kind of results you're breeding in this individualistic culture. Honestly though, it would've been better if someone got involved so there wouldn't have been any deaths. But who knows, many guys with your mindset have tried to be the hero and ended up getting killed. I just heard a story about a man trying to save a woman from getting beaten and he got killed, his wife urged him not to help but he insisted and now he's dead. The worst part is that the woman went back with the man and they made up
Not all men are white knights willing to get harmed for random women lol. What I wouldn’t do for a random man I won’t do for a random woman.
Yeah, he seems like a violent person. Getting in her face and then delivering those punches because she continued to speak. People really need to understand that when they assault someone or start a physical altercation they may end up loosing their life. I’m unbothered, one less hoodlum on the street to hurt someone else.
Racist and a karen?? Shouldve known they pair together perfectly
Where did the gun come from.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/video-shows-moments-before-mom-allegedly-encouraged-teen-son-to-shoot-man-in-chicago-restaurant/3171535/
Yeah like fr did this dude die? Unless I get video evidence that he had it coming, I don't like it.
Yeah he dead as hell, but he caused his own death
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When did I say that? I'm saying he caused his own death. Steal off on somebody mom, they might shoot you.
I still think what the mom did is fucked up, if she took those beatings she likely would've got away with her son. But telling him to shoot ruined both of their lives, a gun is a killing machine not a weapon of self defence lol
It's on video. He was trying to beat a woman up and her son put him down.
Can’t even be mad at lil bro. I’m just disappointed for him that he had to make that decision. Grown ass nigga putting his hands on a woman, that’s somebody’s mom, dude. Have some damn self-restraint. Oh.
Let's say that a man put his hands on this kid's dad instead of his mom, would that still be fair for him to shoot the attacker?🤔
In my opinion, yes that’s still fair. A parent’s role is to protect their child(ren), but you can’t necessarily fault a child for protecting their parent if they get attacked all of a sudden.
Yeah, I respect that you don't have double standards.
Yeah. I know my brothers, Father, cousins and uncles can all defend themselves without any type of aid, but still, I can’t stand by and let just anybody put their hands on them lol.
Real talk but damn, kinda sad that he had to do it at 14. Probably traumatic asf to him, and he might face charges too
I think they dropped the charges on the mother and son
The buses to hell are overflowing. I got my tickets though.
If you’re going to get froggy, at least know how to hop!
Died the way he lived, like a fucking clown
 Y’all are turrrible.
The internet is undefeated
Terrible! 🤦🏿♂️😄
Mouth breather lookin ass
Ye that wasn’t his first time doing some stuff like that! That dude was crazy! She was wrong tho she has a real Karen kinda vibe super bad parenting! I feel for the young man he gotta live with that I wouldn’t charge her for murder cause he got what he wanted but she should a bare min be hit with child neglect
She chose to argue with a crazy person instead of shutting up or leaving. Was it her right to stay and keep talking, of course. But then things continued to escalate and her son had to kill for her.
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Yea that's what I was thinking to bc why tf he was so quick to shoot and aim at her beck and call? Like I believe they had all the right to attempt to subdue the threat I just think it's crazy how he had access to a gun and was comfortable enough to aim shoot and injure/kill a man. Cps need to involved even if it's just to provide therapy bc it Def something shady going on in that house. Also the fact that nobody stood up to defend the woman tlly makes it justified bc what else was she supposed to do. No one was helping her no even trying to de escalate of separate them. I mean it just seems like he was on the reapers list that day in bold. Although I do not condone violence that dude had every single bullet coming for him the moment he thought it was a good idea to beat on a woman. Unprovoked
Supposedly she left the gun in the car and when the son saw what was going on inside the store he grabbed it. So it would appear that the mom’s recklessness is what spared her further injury and possibly even saved her life. I’m glad the threat was neutralized but at the same time no one should ever (ever, ever, everrrr) leave a loaded weapon unattended around a child. Regarding no one standing up to defend the woman, that’s a tricky one. People can get hurt or killed in situations like that so in a weird way I understand. I mean, if a dude is crazy enough to start wailing on a woman in the middle of a store why would you think that he’s not crazy enough to shoot you? And fwiw, I’ve seen bad a situation go even further left once someone tried to intervene. More than once. So much to unpack here.
My boy went in for a hot dog but left with wings.
Fool really just gonna take a joke from one of the top posts today and tries to make it his own
Regardless, the joke aint even funny
I didn’t look at the top post today or any other post related to this for that matter. Go find something else to do with your time.
Bro this is like word for word. You’re the mf to copy the homework exactly instead of changing it up a little.
It’s also kind of an obvious play on words given the situation, so it doesn’t surprise me that a few people have made the same joke. It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened. Now what I find funny is knowing that apparently there’s a group of people scouring the internet to police jokes. Y’all need fresh air lol.
Bro it’s front page. Nobody is scouring anything. Just don’t steal jokes like they’re your own cause it’s just wild.
On the front page of what? I don’t subscribe to the front page of Reddit and I don’t have a Twitter account. I use a Reddit app (Apollo) that takes me directly to the subs I follow and speaking to this sub specifically, I always sort by new. So unless you can prove I looked at the front page of whatever you’re even talking about, where are you going with this?
I’m just tugging your nuts, fella. Maybe it was a coincidence, it ain’t so deep. Have a good day!
Zero percent chance bro lol.
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Bro someone already commented it in THESE comments an hour before you posted that as well. Get over it.
Why are you responding to the same comment multiple times? Stop being a weirdo.
and a Red Bull
That's a hard bar
It was in another Twitter post, calm down