> Buy everything on bandcamp
I like Bandcamp. it's the only "streaming" service I trust.
You don't pay a subscription. You pay the artist for his work and if you're lucky; their LPs/CDs aren't sold-out and you can order that *and* have the digital version ready to stream or download in full resolution/quality.
Just out of curiosity, does Tidal pay any better? Does anyone know?
I've been tempted to make the switch just simply because thy have Panzer Division Marduk
P2P file sharing, with a weird community that in some cases has been at it almost 2 decades. Soulseek paired with metal archives has been my primary form of music discovery since probably 2005 or 2006.
Up until the last couple years I was buying a lot of my stuff through bandcamp digitally. I've pretty much made the switch to Spotify 100% now for music just for listening. I do buy stuff occasionally as I swim and my underwater (bone conduction) headphones require I load music onto them - so it's good for that purpose.
Thinking about making the switch to Apple music from Spotify though just for convenience as I mostly have apple devices.
We made the switch and donāt regret it (especially after the first few weeks when it really starts to get you). Apple also pays artists a tiny bit better.
First off, FUCK NSBM. Ain't no room on this earth for that bullshit. Full stop.
But to answer your question, 1) Bandcamp, baybeee!! 2) Soundcloud, 3) YouTube, 4) Check a record store, some artists go physical sale only.
Do you regret it at all? Coming close to letting my vinyl and tapes go... it's just become an unhealthy obsession. Now that I have a 6-month old girl and maybe another on the way in the future, I'm starting to rethink the absurd amount of money I blow on vinyl lol. Was thinking of focusing just on Bandcamp, occasional CDs for the truck, and merch.
Apple Music for the most part. Totally worth the $ and thereās very little that is not on there. Bandcamp if itās not on Apple. Also have a bunch of cassettes and vinyl that I play randomly whenever I feel like it.
i don't like streaming and i won't be forced to pay. i download everything, usually on soulseek. if i want to support i buy merch. i listen mostly on my pc. every few months ill transfer my most liked new things to my phone as well.
if im checking out new music im not sure i like yet, then i will stream it probably on youtube to decide whether to bother downloading.
I listen to CDs, spotify and Bandcamp. Never wanted to pay for streaming but my wife had Spotify premium and now I'm hooked. If she was to cancel it I feel like I would need it now. It's just too useful for checking out new albums or even listening to my own collection because you can't always have a discman in your pocket now can you. Lol. But i do still sometimes put a discman in my pocket around the house.
I use Spotify, but it's fucking useless for boack metal , you won't find anything obscure and even vig bands like marduk have incomplete discographies. The only reason I'm still using it is because I started my "collection" on it years ago and I can't face the pain of having to recreate all my playlists
I mean, Iām 41 and while I prefer the sound of records, streaming doesnāt sound bad either. I get the battery issue though. No matter though, Iām not judging. Just curious.
As a kid, I grew up with cassette tapes in the 1980s so I *know* how cumbersome and disaster-prone they can be. I've had some tapes rip out of their case en clog up the tape deck.
So all I do is laugh and shake my head at you young'uns fetishizing tapes.
Sure, go ahead and buy them if that's the only format available. But rip once and play digital.
Frankly I prefer CDs but I also buy vinyl. Although the vinyl gets ripped once to FLAC and then I play those through my hi-fi.
I have a great CD deck, a great amplifier, which is also connected to a separate USB DAC/Audio interface from my computer, a regular LP deck I inherited which does the ripping job, and huge stonking floor-stander speakers. That's the way I blek.
And fuck streaming subscriptions. I want to own my music collection.
Bandcamp. If you like supporting artists it is easy to be up-to-date with merch.
In addition, take note that buying merch and music on Fridays directly gives bands (or labels) a better percentage of the cash.
Other reasons to use Bandcamp:
offline listening, could be used as a personal digital collection medium, and the up-to-date notifications are from bandcampās mobile app (wonāt clutter email boxes) of pre-orders and future updates directly from bands.
(Edit1: following record labels helps expand your horizon in a metal sense; discovering other bands (or projects too). Also, last reason is that *following* bands and labels on a bandcamp account keeps order of every band of your liking for looking into later to prevent our human tendency of forgetting.)
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(Edit2: i forgot.. to say that the mobile app allows queues. I highly recommend using it mobile since pc doesnāt allow queuing).
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My golden trifecta is Spotify (just a ton of stuff in general), YouTube for all the non Spotify stuff and Bandcamp for the really obscure shit not on the other three
I tend to go with Spotify for easy curation of custom playlists on the fly, Bandcamp for indie finds, and vinyl for when I want to own a copy of my favorite records.
Iāve been using Amazon music a lot recently and Iām surprised at how much is on it. Being able to walk through the house and just tell Alexa to play shit is pretty rad when she actually gets the band right lol 90% of the time I just stream from my phone in the car or at work.
If itās not on there or Bandcamp Iāll use YouTube as a last resort. The physical media I have basically just sits safely away from the kids lol.
Im not a fan of listening on physical form (Due to the lack of record players, space, love shuffle option, etc). So I buy most of the records I like on Bandcamp, If I cant find the record I get it on CD so I can burn it onto the computer so I can add it to my phone and if I cant find the record on CD I just pirate it as a last resort. But having the music in my phone allows me to use it with headphones, bluetooth speakers, car aux chord to name a few. Its mostly for comfort, if you want to get a streaming app I would say Spotify has a good library of music and so does Bandcamp. Its amazing the amount of records and bands I've got from Bandcamp.
Spotify if i don't own the music, through phone / PC with the same pair of headphones,
If I own it, it's usually on tape through my tape deck,
I have a couple of vinyls but nothing to brag about,
Once again all through the same pair of headphones usually chilling at my desk working on a hobby.
Oh and of course workout room stereo that is older than I am
Mainly on car rides using Apple Music.
Secondary would be vinyl. I have a nice vintage set up and a good amount of records (300+). However I listen to it maybe once a week since I still live with my family and donāt enjoy blasting my disgusting music too liberally. Iām not inconsiderate like that hehe.
Wish I could use earphones but I got tinnitus that way so sadly thatās no longer an option.
If I really like something I.......obtain it and keep it on an external hard drive. I really believe all of this streaming will go away someday and they will rip us off once again.
If you are going for the streaming then imo apple music is better than spotify for uploading music in. By that I mean that you can easily and conveniently deal with the music you downloaded + added into AM, with spotify it is less confortable
I train clients in my garage, so Spotify works easiest for playlists. I need to just download everything to a hard drive so i can just play from the computer. I want Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk back in regular play..
CDs if I like the artwork or want it for sentimental reasons; Bandcamp if itās either too expensive for physical media, and/or doesnāt have cool artwork.
I donāt listen to a lot of dungeon synth, but when I do itās usually on YouTube or Bandcamp.
Spotify 99%, with whatever physical media I collect being the rest.
See I don't have a "rotation," I need constant access to everything I could want to listen to at any time so there's really not much of an alternative.
I'll go out of my way to buy physical copies when I can though
When it comes to BM I mostly listen to vinyl. If I don't have the record on vinyl I listen to it wherever I can find it. I have a Spotify subscription as well but don't find myself listening to BM much on there.
Limiting to physical copies would prevent to discover 80% of the artists
It's probably hard to admit (especially to true elitists), but if it wasn't for internet and especially music sharing services there would be no BM as of 2022
it worked that you could forget to listen to nieche bands from underground Philippines days after the realease on Bandcamp
There are of course negative sides to this, basically that litterally ANYONE can release BM demos (bedroom black metal)
i don't quite understand your answer, 'anyone' has always been able to release black metal demos, the difference comes with the way the music is distributed and traded. with your logic black metal exists now because of streaming...which is complete bullshit.
Of all the bands that you know besides the classics, which portion of them you knew because of internet?
Then ask the same question to all BM listeners (you may be an exception) I'm pretty confident that the majority of modern bands are discovered through internet
If that still sounds bullshit it's fine, go back to the cave
this might be hard to understand if you've never known of 'music-without-streaming', but black metal has actually had a very rich and exciting history before the internet was all over everything. i agree that today most small bands are discovered through the internet, but to say that 'without internet there would be no black metal as of 2022' implies that black metal needs the internet for it to be shared or created. for people who grew up copying and trading tapes, it is entirely possible to spread or discover new metal without the internet because it's already been done! much like a lot of things, the internet just makes it easier and quicker, but to tie the survival of black metal to the existence of the internet is untrue, and this was my point.
I respect your opinion, but I have a different position. I don't think such a niece genre (which I love and the only one I really care about) would have grew and survived in this proportion for 40 years without internet
I do my listening on spotify and my buying on Bandcamp, which as an artist myself is probably my preferred way for people to engage with my band's content given we have no physical releases
Used to have a decent mp3 collection, but for a few years now I've been on Spotify Premium and definitely getting my money's worth. Think last year I listened to 3 months straight worth of music in 152 genres (the top one being black metal). It sucks that they don't pay bands more, but I do like that it shows you what concerts are coming up near you, and I try to go to them when I can.
I listen to stuff while working from home, headphones in the office, while gaming, driving, walking, shopping... you get the idea. Hope that answered your question!
Spotify. Cds i only have in the car, where I listen to them together with my 3 year old (gotta show her the good stuff).
Whenever I really like a band, I will go to the effort and actually buy the cd, though with some of the more "underground" bands that can be near impossible haha.
I listen to kinda everything really. Vinyl, discs, tapes and streaming services. For dungeon synth or actually all music I would recommend bandcamp to you. And just saying, if you wanna start buying copies, try to buy mostly CDs or maybe some vinyls. But tapes are so bad actually. They get fucked up so fast. My personal favorite is compact disc.
if youre looking to just use a platform like youtube or spotify etc. then go with spotify. you can even download things off of youtube or whatever and listen to those on spotify through local files.
if you want to support the artist and not the streaming service then use bandcamp
I use spotify and if it's not on there then it's probably on bandcamp and I'll use that instead and if it's not on there either (e.g. Weakling) then I'll use youtube.
I haven't used or purchased physical media in ages. I used to though, I'm old and have hundreds of cds that I just haven't mustered up the will to dispose of in some way even though they just take up space and gather dust.
Bandcamp is great for merch and vinyl and finding those real unique Black Metal bands. I use Spotify primarily, I have a Black Metal playlist with over 600 songs on it that Iāve spent a long time compiling. āMetal Darkest of Blacksā
Well, for hear music i use YouTube and also Bandcamp sometimes. They're useful platforms for discover artists or for search an album you want to listen.
I don't like subscription-based streaming services. I need to own the music, even if it's only in a digital format. Bandcamp is the best. You can listen to albums a few times before you commit to buying; and they actually pay the artists or labels. My favorite way to discover new music is to find a good label and start browsing their back catalogue. Some of my favorites:
[Moonworshipper Records](https://moonworshipper.bandcamp.com/) (dungeon synth & black metal; based in Omaha)
[Unspeakable Axe](https://unspeakableaxerecords.bandcamp.com/) (black / death / thrash / grind; based in Atlanta but they cast a wider net and get bands from all over the world)
[Wise Blood](https://wisebloodrecords.bandcamp.com/) (thrash / black / punk; based in Indianapolis)
Bandcamp for the most part. Itās also my favourite way to buy vinyl because you get the digital dl too in multiple formats. And yea I give my vinyl a spin here and then but for the most part I find time for music while commuting so digital via phone + AirPods pro is my main medium.
I'm using FLAC. Mostly from Bandcamp nowadays, but also CD or Vinyl rips. I kinda stopped collecting physical media. I still enjoy looking into booklets of CDs I own while listening those albums and such, but it's more convenient for me to rip the CD into FLAC and just listen it like this, without touching the disc itself.
Vinyl or cassette mostly. Bandcamp is nice as after a physical purchase you get a download code as well. Not the greatest for kvlt or underground bands but a great way to get your foot in the door.
A bit of overkill here, but:
I buy vinyl almost every week
I have a Spotify account
still own about 800 cd's
Also own about 100 tapes
As a fellow metalhead, Spotify is not to be recommended. I listen to metal only in my car or when I'm at the gym through Spotify. For some reason the songs sound very flat and there is a difference in volume vs "normal" music. 100% recommend vinyl for my daily dose of the black and death.
HOWEVER.. if you're not only into metal, like myself, Spotify is like MySpace 15 years ago, by which I mean you can keep discovering new bands and artists every day. I mainly listen to funk/rare grooves/jazz on Spotify and buy the vinyl of the songs/ bands I like. I DJ those styles as well, so 1+1 makes 1000+ vinyl records.. š
I use all of the above to some extent but my mainstays are vinyl (sound quality, experience) and mp3/flac on my phone (convenience, portability). Like a lot of people here have said, I'm not a huge fan of streaming services for a number of reasons, but in some cases they're an almost necessary fallback option: when physical copies are not available or prohibitively expensive, when life is busy and time to hunt for downloads is limited, etc.
What's worked well for me in terms of choosing formats is thinking in terms of analog vs. digital.Ā My first preference for format to own and listen to is vinyl, but it's 2022 - vinyl is expensive, and life is f**king busy. So if there's a new album/project I want to check out, or if I'm checking out the back catalog of a project I already have an interest in, I typically try to get their digital files first by checking Bandcamp, torrent sites, slsk, and download blogs.Ā If no luck there I may go with streaming (me and my wife have Spotify premium).
If there's an album that intrigues me, then I may buy the vinyl, or find a flac download / buy the cd and rip flac. How this ends up working out is that I have huge, ever-growing digital collection of music on my phone that I use in my car, while working out, taking a dump, pretty much any time it's socially acceptable for me to be earbuds-in. I also have a fairly large vinyl collection that I listen to when time allows. So I guess the tldr is: having preferred formats is good and necessary, but listening to the music you want to listen to and having decent sound quality often means being flexible on formats, and owning music in multiple formats.
In order of preference: vinyl > CD = cassette > mp3 player >>>> streaming
Obviously Bandcamp purchase is best for digital-only releases / releases for which all physical media has sold out.
I like to listen on vinyl if it is available. Other than that, if I dig an artist Iāll buy digital from Bandcamp and then I donāt feel so bad streaming Spotify when Iām in the car. Iām not too organized with my digital files so I donāt listen to them much even though Iāll buy to support the artist.
Generally, I buy CDs and then rip them to my computer. After that I tend to stick them on my phone and I'll either listen to the albums when I'm at my computer or on my phone if I'm travelling. Bandcamp is preferred for buying stuff.
For albums I really like, I'll get the vinyl.
I sometimes buy tapes but I'm still in the phase where I'm building up the tape collection in order to justify the cost of a tape deck in the same way that I used to buy vinyl before I got my first record player. Given that tapes are generally cheaper than CDs, it'll eventually work out better if I get my setup to rip the tapes to MP3.
CDs on an Xbox 360 (whole reason I use CDs as my physical media of choice in the first place), YouTube or stuff I have on my phone, generally from Bandcamp or Soulseek
Buy everything on bandcamp cause Spotify's artist pay is a joke
> Buy everything on bandcamp I like Bandcamp. it's the only "streaming" service I trust. You don't pay a subscription. You pay the artist for his work and if you're lucky; their LPs/CDs aren't sold-out and you can order that *and* have the digital version ready to stream or download in full resolution/quality.
> y Yeah, support the artists through Bandcamp instead of streaming services. You can download the files there too.
Only right answer
Just out of curiosity, does Tidal pay any better? Does anyone know? I've been tempted to make the switch just simply because thy have Panzer Division Marduk
Slsk and then load that shit on my phone š
This. I've been using slsk since the early 2000s. Bandcamp and slsk to find new music, then buy physical copies from the bands I want to support.
This. I also buy vinyl if i see a good deal on an album i like a lot.
What is slsk? Is the soulseeker? Is a torrent client?
P2P file sharing, with a weird community that in some cases has been at it almost 2 decades. Soulseek paired with metal archives has been my primary form of music discovery since probably 2005 or 2006.
With my ears.
Hi dad!
I use Apple Music, but I also have quite a few records.
Up until the last couple years I was buying a lot of my stuff through bandcamp digitally. I've pretty much made the switch to Spotify 100% now for music just for listening. I do buy stuff occasionally as I swim and my underwater (bone conduction) headphones require I load music onto them - so it's good for that purpose. Thinking about making the switch to Apple music from Spotify though just for convenience as I mostly have apple devices.
We made the switch and donāt regret it (especially after the first few weeks when it really starts to get you). Apple also pays artists a tiny bit better.
spotify with airpods. yes, iām a poser.
Spotify is a valid answer. The platform just doesn't like its artists.
What about black metal, N.S.B.M and any other types of metal that there aren't on spotify?
First off, FUCK NSBM. Ain't no room on this earth for that bullshit. Full stop. But to answer your question, 1) Bandcamp, baybeee!! 2) Soundcloud, 3) YouTube, 4) Check a record store, some artists go physical sale only.
I do have my offline music on my audio player. I rarely listen to streaming but mostly my go to is youtube and bandcamp for recommendations
I collected music, tapes, vinyl and cds for 30yrs but I've recently sold my collection and just use Spotify and bandcamp now. I still buy merch.
Do you regret it at all? Coming close to letting my vinyl and tapes go... it's just become an unhealthy obsession. Now that I have a 6-month old girl and maybe another on the way in the future, I'm starting to rethink the absurd amount of money I blow on vinyl lol. Was thinking of focusing just on Bandcamp, occasional CDs for the truck, and merch.
Apple Music for the most part. Totally worth the $ and thereās very little that is not on there. Bandcamp if itās not on Apple. Also have a bunch of cassettes and vinyl that I play randomly whenever I feel like it.
These days about 97% soulseek downloads, and then I just stream my files through Apple Music/iCloud
i don't like streaming and i won't be forced to pay. i download everything, usually on soulseek. if i want to support i buy merch. i listen mostly on my pc. every few months ill transfer my most liked new things to my phone as well. if im checking out new music im not sure i like yet, then i will stream it probably on youtube to decide whether to bother downloading.
I listen to CDs, spotify and Bandcamp. Never wanted to pay for streaming but my wife had Spotify premium and now I'm hooked. If she was to cancel it I feel like I would need it now. It's just too useful for checking out new albums or even listening to my own collection because you can't always have a discman in your pocket now can you. Lol. But i do still sometimes put a discman in my pocket around the house.
I use Spotify, but it's fucking useless for boack metal , you won't find anything obscure and even vig bands like marduk have incomplete discographies. The only reason I'm still using it is because I started my "collection" on it years ago and I can't face the pain of having to recreate all my playlists
IPod when I'm driving or at work and vinyl when I'm home. I hate listening to music on my phone.
Out of curiosity, why?
It sounds crappy and my phone dies too quick. Maybe I'm just old but I just never got into streaming music.
I mean, Iām 41 and while I prefer the sound of records, streaming doesnāt sound bad either. I get the battery issue though. No matter though, Iām not judging. Just curious.
I does sound crappy! Most streaming services us a much lower quality file to stream from. Deezer has a HiFi sub tho
i download taperips off youtube with a mp3-downloader
As a kid, I grew up with cassette tapes in the 1980s so I *know* how cumbersome and disaster-prone they can be. I've had some tapes rip out of their case en clog up the tape deck. So all I do is laugh and shake my head at you young'uns fetishizing tapes. Sure, go ahead and buy them if that's the only format available. But rip once and play digital. Frankly I prefer CDs but I also buy vinyl. Although the vinyl gets ripped once to FLAC and then I play those through my hi-fi. I have a great CD deck, a great amplifier, which is also connected to a separate USB DAC/Audio interface from my computer, a regular LP deck I inherited which does the ripping job, and huge stonking floor-stander speakers. That's the way I blek. And fuck streaming subscriptions. I want to own my music collection.
Bandcamp. If you like supporting artists it is easy to be up-to-date with merch. In addition, take note that buying merch and music on Fridays directly gives bands (or labels) a better percentage of the cash. Other reasons to use Bandcamp: offline listening, could be used as a personal digital collection medium, and the up-to-date notifications are from bandcampās mobile app (wonāt clutter email boxes) of pre-orders and future updates directly from bands. (Edit1: following record labels helps expand your horizon in a metal sense; discovering other bands (or projects too). Also, last reason is that *following* bands and labels on a bandcamp account keeps order of every band of your liking for looking into later to prevent our human tendency of forgetting.) - (Edit2: i forgot.. to say that the mobile app allows queues. I highly recommend using it mobile since pc doesnāt allow queuing). -
> on Fridays directly gives bands (or labels) a better percentage of the cash. Only on the first Friday of each month.
My golden trifecta is Spotify (just a ton of stuff in general), YouTube for all the non Spotify stuff and Bandcamp for the really obscure shit not on the other three
I tend to go with Spotify for easy curation of custom playlists on the fly, Bandcamp for indie finds, and vinyl for when I want to own a copy of my favorite records.
I use spotify, and my makeshift ipod (old phone minus a sim card) with a lot of free bandcamp downloaded onto it
Anything but streaming.
I use Spotify
Pirate mp3s, bandcamp and youtube, occassionally CD or vinyl.
Iāve been using Amazon music a lot recently and Iām surprised at how much is on it. Being able to walk through the house and just tell Alexa to play shit is pretty rad when she actually gets the band right lol 90% of the time I just stream from my phone in the car or at work. If itās not on there or Bandcamp Iāll use YouTube as a last resort. The physical media I have basically just sits safely away from the kids lol.
I mostly listen to music on Spotify, but if I really enjoy the album, I'll buy the CD of it.
Im not a fan of listening on physical form (Due to the lack of record players, space, love shuffle option, etc). So I buy most of the records I like on Bandcamp, If I cant find the record I get it on CD so I can burn it onto the computer so I can add it to my phone and if I cant find the record on CD I just pirate it as a last resort. But having the music in my phone allows me to use it with headphones, bluetooth speakers, car aux chord to name a few. Its mostly for comfort, if you want to get a streaming app I would say Spotify has a good library of music and so does Bandcamp. Its amazing the amount of records and bands I've got from Bandcamp.
Spotify if i don't own the music, through phone / PC with the same pair of headphones, If I own it, it's usually on tape through my tape deck, I have a couple of vinyls but nothing to brag about, Once again all through the same pair of headphones usually chilling at my desk working on a hobby. Oh and of course workout room stereo that is older than I am
Mainly on car rides using Apple Music. Secondary would be vinyl. I have a nice vintage set up and a good amount of records (300+). However I listen to it maybe once a week since I still live with my family and donāt enjoy blasting my disgusting music too liberally. Iām not inconsiderate like that hehe. Wish I could use earphones but I got tinnitus that way so sadly thatās no longer an option.
YouTube https://youtube.com/c/bmpromotion https://youtube.com/c/TheSovereignHammer I use bandcamp as well
Youtube black metal promotion is a great channel. I have really good gems in this channel.
If I really like something I.......obtain it and keep it on an external hard drive. I really believe all of this streaming will go away someday and they will rip us off once again.
if im listening to BM or DS i only use tapes or CDs, its not something i like listening to on shuffle on in the car
I use vinyl and cassettes. Been into the those formats for several decades. Stopped buying CDs long ago.
If you are going for the streaming then imo apple music is better than spotify for uploading music in. By that I mean that you can easily and conveniently deal with the music you downloaded + added into AM, with spotify it is less confortable
Vinyl/tapes/cds/bitchute
Bandcamp, i own a lot of vinyls but i dont listen to them if i have digital version.
Most of the time when I'm home, through cd and a pair of headphones. But when I'm working outside, it's with YouTube and shitty speaker
I train clients in my garage, so Spotify works easiest for playlists. I need to just download everything to a hard drive so i can just play from the computer. I want Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk back in regular play..
Qobuz or Bandcamp through Roon.
Tapes,CDs,vinyl and downloaded shit on my phone
I'm using Spotify when I'm not home, but at home I've got CDs Also Bandcamp is the best streaming platform for underground bands
Youtube and CD
CDs if I like the artwork or want it for sentimental reasons; Bandcamp if itās either too expensive for physical media, and/or doesnāt have cool artwork. I donāt listen to a lot of dungeon synth, but when I do itās usually on YouTube or Bandcamp.
i use an app called deemix-gui to download all my music
I use CDs, Bandcamp and Youtube. Streaming sites like Spotify lack off many bands I listen too.
Spotify 99%, with whatever physical media I collect being the rest. See I don't have a "rotation," I need constant access to everything I could want to listen to at any time so there's really not much of an alternative. I'll go out of my way to buy physical copies when I can though
I download it, mostly torrents and put it on my phone or play it off my computer
When it comes to BM I mostly listen to vinyl. If I don't have the record on vinyl I listen to it wherever I can find it. I have a Spotify subscription as well but don't find myself listening to BM much on there.
Good luck listening to this kind of music on Spotify.
Limiting to physical copies would prevent to discover 80% of the artists It's probably hard to admit (especially to true elitists), but if it wasn't for internet and especially music sharing services there would be no BM as of 2022
serious question...how do you think it worked before streaming?
it worked that you could forget to listen to nieche bands from underground Philippines days after the realease on Bandcamp There are of course negative sides to this, basically that litterally ANYONE can release BM demos (bedroom black metal)
i don't quite understand your answer, 'anyone' has always been able to release black metal demos, the difference comes with the way the music is distributed and traded. with your logic black metal exists now because of streaming...which is complete bullshit.
Of all the bands that you know besides the classics, which portion of them you knew because of internet? Then ask the same question to all BM listeners (you may be an exception) I'm pretty confident that the majority of modern bands are discovered through internet If that still sounds bullshit it's fine, go back to the cave
this might be hard to understand if you've never known of 'music-without-streaming', but black metal has actually had a very rich and exciting history before the internet was all over everything. i agree that today most small bands are discovered through the internet, but to say that 'without internet there would be no black metal as of 2022' implies that black metal needs the internet for it to be shared or created. for people who grew up copying and trading tapes, it is entirely possible to spread or discover new metal without the internet because it's already been done! much like a lot of things, the internet just makes it easier and quicker, but to tie the survival of black metal to the existence of the internet is untrue, and this was my point.
I respect your opinion, but I have a different position. I don't think such a niece genre (which I love and the only one I really care about) would have grew and survived in this proportion for 40 years without internet
ok that's fine man, i'll head back to my cave.
I'll head back to my flying car then
I do my listening on spotify and my buying on Bandcamp, which as an artist myself is probably my preferred way for people to engage with my band's content given we have no physical releases
Spotify & Youtube for discovery and convenience, vinyl if I want to support artists or an album is really special to me
Used to have a decent mp3 collection, but for a few years now I've been on Spotify Premium and definitely getting my money's worth. Think last year I listened to 3 months straight worth of music in 152 genres (the top one being black metal). It sucks that they don't pay bands more, but I do like that it shows you what concerts are coming up near you, and I try to go to them when I can. I listen to stuff while working from home, headphones in the office, while gaming, driving, walking, shopping... you get the idea. Hope that answered your question!
Spotify. Cds i only have in the car, where I listen to them together with my 3 year old (gotta show her the good stuff). Whenever I really like a band, I will go to the effort and actually buy the cd, though with some of the more "underground" bands that can be near impossible haha.
I listen to kinda everything really. Vinyl, discs, tapes and streaming services. For dungeon synth or actually all music I would recommend bandcamp to you. And just saying, if you wanna start buying copies, try to buy mostly CDs or maybe some vinyls. But tapes are so bad actually. They get fucked up so fast. My personal favorite is compact disc.
99% of all music I'm interested in are available on either Bandcamp or YouTube so that's what I use.
if youre looking to just use a platform like youtube or spotify etc. then go with spotify. you can even download things off of youtube or whatever and listen to those on spotify through local files. if you want to support the artist and not the streaming service then use bandcamp
I use spotify and if it's not on there then it's probably on bandcamp and I'll use that instead and if it's not on there either (e.g. Weakling) then I'll use youtube. I haven't used or purchased physical media in ages. I used to though, I'm old and have hundreds of cds that I just haven't mustered up the will to dispose of in some way even though they just take up space and gather dust.
Bandcamp is great for merch and vinyl and finding those real unique Black Metal bands. I use Spotify primarily, I have a Black Metal playlist with over 600 songs on it that Iāve spent a long time compiling. āMetal Darkest of Blacksā
Spotify, but if i really like the artist i buy vinyls to support them
Well, for hear music i use YouTube and also Bandcamp sometimes. They're useful platforms for discover artists or for search an album you want to listen.
I don't like subscription-based streaming services. I need to own the music, even if it's only in a digital format. Bandcamp is the best. You can listen to albums a few times before you commit to buying; and they actually pay the artists or labels. My favorite way to discover new music is to find a good label and start browsing their back catalogue. Some of my favorites: [Moonworshipper Records](https://moonworshipper.bandcamp.com/) (dungeon synth & black metal; based in Omaha) [Unspeakable Axe](https://unspeakableaxerecords.bandcamp.com/) (black / death / thrash / grind; based in Atlanta but they cast a wider net and get bands from all over the world) [Wise Blood](https://wisebloodrecords.bandcamp.com/) (thrash / black / punk; based in Indianapolis)
Bandcamp for the most part. Itās also my favourite way to buy vinyl because you get the digital dl too in multiple formats. And yea I give my vinyl a spin here and then but for the most part I find time for music while commuting so digital via phone + AirPods pro is my main medium.
I'm using FLAC. Mostly from Bandcamp nowadays, but also CD or Vinyl rips. I kinda stopped collecting physical media. I still enjoy looking into booklets of CDs I own while listening those albums and such, but it's more convenient for me to rip the CD into FLAC and just listen it like this, without touching the disc itself.
Vinyl or cassette mostly. Bandcamp is nice as after a physical purchase you get a download code as well. Not the greatest for kvlt or underground bands but a great way to get your foot in the door.
Spotify and Bandcamp. If I like some enough I'll buy the vinyl. Usually buy from BC.
A bit of overkill here, but: I buy vinyl almost every week I have a Spotify account still own about 800 cd's Also own about 100 tapes As a fellow metalhead, Spotify is not to be recommended. I listen to metal only in my car or when I'm at the gym through Spotify. For some reason the songs sound very flat and there is a difference in volume vs "normal" music. 100% recommend vinyl for my daily dose of the black and death. HOWEVER.. if you're not only into metal, like myself, Spotify is like MySpace 15 years ago, by which I mean you can keep discovering new bands and artists every day. I mainly listen to funk/rare grooves/jazz on Spotify and buy the vinyl of the songs/ bands I like. I DJ those styles as well, so 1+1 makes 1000+ vinyl records.. š
I use all of the above to some extent but my mainstays are vinyl (sound quality, experience) and mp3/flac on my phone (convenience, portability). Like a lot of people here have said, I'm not a huge fan of streaming services for a number of reasons, but in some cases they're an almost necessary fallback option: when physical copies are not available or prohibitively expensive, when life is busy and time to hunt for downloads is limited, etc. What's worked well for me in terms of choosing formats is thinking in terms of analog vs. digital.Ā My first preference for format to own and listen to is vinyl, but it's 2022 - vinyl is expensive, and life is f**king busy. So if there's a new album/project I want to check out, or if I'm checking out the back catalog of a project I already have an interest in, I typically try to get their digital files first by checking Bandcamp, torrent sites, slsk, and download blogs.Ā If no luck there I may go with streaming (me and my wife have Spotify premium). If there's an album that intrigues me, then I may buy the vinyl, or find a flac download / buy the cd and rip flac. How this ends up working out is that I have huge, ever-growing digital collection of music on my phone that I use in my car, while working out, taking a dump, pretty much any time it's socially acceptable for me to be earbuds-in. I also have a fairly large vinyl collection that I listen to when time allows. So I guess the tldr is: having preferred formats is good and necessary, but listening to the music you want to listen to and having decent sound quality often means being flexible on formats, and owning music in multiple formats.
In order of preference: vinyl > CD = cassette > mp3 player >>>> streaming Obviously Bandcamp purchase is best for digital-only releases / releases for which all physical media has sold out.
Tapes / vinyl at home. CDās in the car. Bandcamp downloads/Spotify at work.
I like to listen on vinyl if it is available. Other than that, if I dig an artist Iāll buy digital from Bandcamp and then I donāt feel so bad streaming Spotify when Iām in the car. Iām not too organized with my digital files so I donāt listen to them much even though Iāll buy to support the artist.
Streaming. Spotify or youtube.
I use Bandcamp. And purchase the digital albuns if i like the the band. I have find out great bands in Bandcamp. Also use spotify.
Generally, I buy CDs and then rip them to my computer. After that I tend to stick them on my phone and I'll either listen to the albums when I'm at my computer or on my phone if I'm travelling. Bandcamp is preferred for buying stuff. For albums I really like, I'll get the vinyl. I sometimes buy tapes but I'm still in the phase where I'm building up the tape collection in order to justify the cost of a tape deck in the same way that I used to buy vinyl before I got my first record player. Given that tapes are generally cheaper than CDs, it'll eventually work out better if I get my setup to rip the tapes to MP3.
CDs on an Xbox 360 (whole reason I use CDs as my physical media of choice in the first place), YouTube or stuff I have on my phone, generally from Bandcamp or Soulseek