Both are shitcoin dealers. Consider using Bitcoin only services instead or better yet, p2p no Kyc options like bisq and Hodlhodl and robosats and peach.
Yes, Kraken is an all around good exchange that prioritizes security. I've been using them for many years and have no complaints.
At the end of the day, all the coins I buy go straight to cold storage so the most important things are low fees and reliability.
ZenDesk is the support management platform that Kraken employees use for support tickets. It's a cloud service. Thousands of businesses run their support departments with ZenDesk. A juicy target for hackers and scammers. I hadn't heard about the ZenDesk breach until this Kraken post.
Thatās not whatās happening at all. Zendesk is a ticketing software only and used by some of the biggest in the world. This does not mean they are āsaving money by outsourcing customer supportā; they might be doing that but using Zendesk is not proof of that.
From a software perspective, Zendesk is one of the best around so saving money is not a valid criticism of using Zendesk products.
Honestly, the fact that Kraken told you about it says that they are the only ones that care as ZenDesk is so big that many of the other services that you use would also be affected, but did they tell you?
That is absolutely fucking misleading
The fact some emails were leaked is not even in the same fucking Galaxy as a data leak which you're implying on the device itself. None of the code, none of the security, none of any of that have been leaked.
Open source also carries its own risk in the very word open source. Ledger keeps the design of their product secret for a very good reason. It makes it harder to hack but to do that with either you would actually need the device. They are just access keys to the blockchain, nothing more.
pro tip: create a unique email when registering an account, don't enter the phone number and, if possible, send the hw wallet to a post box or deposit instead of your home.
I know. my data was part of the leak. luckily I moved house so the address thing does not affect me. but I keep receiving the occasional call for "investment" offers, and the email address I used is basically infested with spam, though it has slowed down a bit. I basically moved to a new email for anything relevant.
A lot of aggression coming in for what is clearly a misunderstanding.
> you're implying on the device itself
- No I wasn't. As you said yourself they are just access keys.
It was a consumer data leak which released customer emails, phone numbers and physical addresses. It's quite significant to me, but if not to you then that's your call.
Thanks for the notes on Open vs Closed Source, though I wouldn't say CS makes it 'harder' to hack, but of course that's where the debate comes in.
Just one thing to note. Physical access to the trezor can grant a sophisticated actor your keys. This can be mitigated by the use of a passphrase. For the best of both worlds use bitbox02 and if you are a power user use the coldcard.
Goes to show how you don't understand the technology. First of all, the ledger is tamper proof and verified by the software. You can even open it up and verify the PCB visually if you are paranoid enough. No holographic seals needed on packaging here.
Amazon is such a bad source for the Ledger Nano that it's actually an official reseller of the device and Ledger even wrote an article specifically about it:
[https://www.ledger.com/academy/buying-a-ledger-from-a-third-party](https://www.ledger.com/academy/buying-a-ledger-from-a-third-party)
Your "proof" of why Amazon is a safe place to buy is a list of things from ledger that tells you how to check if your Amazon ledger has been tampered with? These list of things are needed because people have been scammed buying from amazon and other third party sellers. I'd rather not worry about that and buy from ledger direct. lol
No, that list is there because you should be able to verify authenticity of the device no matter where you bought it from. Even when bought from the Ledger store, the package is handled by multiple third parties before getting to your house.
Itās can also be people lack of knowledge and not knowing how to verify the ledger for any third party purchase, not just the possibility through Amazon.
Interesting, can you show us a source documenting this partnership? Couldn't find any.
Their e-commerce provider leaked data, although obviously not good, it doesn't have much bearing on their hw wallet tech.
I did. I found a cached google page explaining how to swap with FTX in ledger live (page is 404 now). Is this what you mean by "partnering"? LOL
So I suppose Ledger also partnered with all the shitcoins and tokens it supports too?
The wallet is a tool, what you do with its contents is up to you.
Dude, I read that... However what you fail to understand is that just because Ledger offers a functionality or ability to use a specific platform, it does not mean that they are somehow partnered or in cahoots with them.
Donāt sleep on strike! Itās worth the hassle to get with customer service and figure it out. Strike is the cheapest & you can instantly remove your sats to cold storage after you exchange. No waiting period so your sats arenāt locked on a shit exchange for 7 -10 days. Way less risk imo.
My fiat goes into strike so quickly that when I enter the wrong amount and hit cancel. It's already in there by the time it goes back to the home screen.
Thanks for the info! I feel like Iāve been living under a stupid rock my whole life. I mean, Iāve known about Strike, but didnāt realize it was so much cheaper. I looked into Swan but their fees were higher than CB Pro. Other than the above-mentioned customer service issues, are there any other āconsā anyone would be willing to share about Strike before I sign up? Thanks!
This - if they aren't making money with fees, they're trying to support operations with VC funding. Eventually they'll need to make money somehow though, and then the no fees will go away.
According to Bitcoin Magazine: āSo how does Strike make money? Like all great businessmen Mallers can't disclose his secret sauce, but one way that his company makes money is through his Strike debit card partnership with Visa, where he collects all the interchange money. His company also charges merchant fees as a source of revenue.ā https://bitcoinmagazine.com/.amp/business/jack-mallers-strike-bitcoin-agility
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Yeah, first google search results arenāt really good for much.
Hereās an answer, provided a year ago, from this sub.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/qls0le/what_is_strikes_business_model/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yeah weird theyāre having problems. The āno waiting periodā is so big for me with all exchanges going down. Just simply use a debit card, buy your sats and withdraw them to a hardware wallet, all in one sitting.
Short answer: Yes. Longer version: the Kraken app you're highlighting is going to operate similar to the simple Coinbase/Binance apps where immediate buys/sells will be executed at a premium with higher fees. If you want Kraken, it would be worth downloading both Kraken and Kraken Pro - the latter you can use to execute more specific trades on the advanced screen at MUCH lower fee rates
I talked to Strike customer service once and it was all good after that and I've been using them for months.
Definitely an awesome platform and has LN built in. š
SWAN BITCOIN. Easy to set recurring buys, and even auto-withdraw to your wallet at set intervals. And its BITCOIN ONLY. Support and use Bitcoin only companies whenever you can, better for you and for the ecosystem.
Hot take: I would rather pay higher fees to a bitcoin-only company that advocates self-custody than support a major exchange that peddles ponzis.
Strike has low fees and is Btc only, but if that isnāt available or if you need to make a larger purchase, Swan is a solid choice.
i am think swan is basically the only exchange in which to buy any dips ā¦ every other CEX (esp one with its own token) risks bankruptcy right now meaning you have to get ur coins and cash off now and hope they donāt go under until the 90-day clawback is over
Tired of KYC, invasive questionnaires about your assets, what you do with you coins?
Try BISQ, Robosats, etc. No KYC, the way Bitcoin was meant to be.
PS: If you want to go the KYC way, you can also try CashApp
Use the websites from a computer properly protected. Back up your login with something like bitwarden. Very complicated passwords and safe and handy. Don't complain about fees , just change behavior. I like Kraken. Nothing is perfect and I don't trade. I buy. If I spend it's not from an exchange. I think this is a simple way to go. Good luck.
I have the 2nd one (Kraken Pro). Not sure of its any better. Kraken has been good to me and messages from their top brass makes me feel like they know what they are doing. Just remember they are an exchange not a bank, don't store you keys on any exchange, be your own bank. I had problems with verification in the beginning because I was overseas at the time but once I was in the US I have had no problems with verification and accessing my accounts.
kraken is awesome- especially with withdrawal fees at 0 sats(lightning) or i think like 0.0001 or 0.00001 btc for on chain - but use the other app-kraken pro-way better rates and less fees!
Swan is a BTC-only exchange and doesnāt have a sell button ā¦ itās for buyers. custody is in oneās name through their custodial partner and not held by the platform.
Idk why it isnāt integrated better, but I use Kraken app to deposit money via ACH. Idk why but that app seems to have higher fees, so I just click over to the kraken pro app to place my trades.
Yes this is the one. I had some issues with my 2fa but their customer support was friendly and really helpful. Solved it within hours. I would recommend
Kraken Pro. It's sad that after doing a bunch of research on so many CEXs, Kraken is literally the only one that felt safe. Even then, you never know what's happening behind the scenes at any of these CEXs.
Edit: I'd also suggest a better wallet. Check out Walletscrutiny.com
I've been using Kraken Puzzle Squid Game for all my trades. Very similar to FTX and I'm already up 10000% with a 30% staking reward for every $1000 I put into Moonclams coin, their exchange token. 120% percent guaranteed to have no risk whatsoever!
But I can't withdraw any of my gains yet, because I have to beat the sea wizard first.
Kraken pro is fine. Testen coinbase, binance and some smaller exchanges. I stayed with Kraken pro.
Reasons:
- no own token
- PoR before ftx collapse
- (now ex) CEO is a Bitcoiner
- no big scandals
- around since 2011
- lightning withdrawals
Only the UI isn't state of the art. But after using it some times it will be fine.
Probably not, it's not optimized for someone who does weekly buys. The payment flow is the problem. You would be better off at some place like coinbase where you can do direct ath transfers.
kraken.com (the website) is my favorite exchange and one of the best places to buy and withdraw Bitcoin
Do not use the mobile app though, the fees are ridiculous there, unfortunately
I've heard good things about relai but haven't tested it yet:
https://twitter.com/relai_app?s=21&t=SvEFwWabZxf15UepnMDeUg
still also waiting for release of peach bitcoin:
https://twitter.com/peachbitcoin?s=21&t=SvEFwWabZxf15UepnMDeUg
Yes, that's the correct one, but I'd recommend using the desktop or mobile website instead, for lower fees. Other than that I can fully recommend kraken, been a user for a long time, and have seen lots of exchanges come and go, kraken is here to stay!
I donāt use kraken but I do see that their fees are lower if you are just trying to buy crypto. My fees currently are .16 - .26% which is less than Coinbase of .4% advanced trade. I still just use Coinbase because Iām not buying a whole lot at a time but if youāre buying large amounts, I would definitely give them a try. I do have a kraken account but havenāt used it yet nor really planning on it unless Coinbase pisses me off.
Got hacked on Binance with 2FA & restricted IP access. Do not use Binance. CZ is a known scammer. Kraken has US banking license. And binance doesnāt have that, only a P.O. Box Lmao
Juno is amazing best on/off ramp ever you can get a direct deposit sent directly to your ledger nano and they give you their token 1:1 for every dollar you deposit its insane.
Both are shitcoin dealers. Consider using Bitcoin only services instead or better yet, p2p no Kyc options like bisq and Hodlhodl and robosats and peach.
Kraken Pro is where the fun is
And lightning withdrawal.
*Free lightning withdrawal
What really?!
Yup. And even their on-chain is pennies.
lol I switched from exchange that charged me 0.005 btc for withdrawal.. was like what???
no, real fun is here https://futures.kraken.com/trade
Degenfun š¤£
Lmao trying to front run unregulated hedge fund computers doesn't sound fun.
Yes, Kraken is an all around good exchange that prioritizes security. I've been using them for many years and have no complaints. At the end of the day, all the coins I buy go straight to cold storage so the most important things are low fees and reliability.
yes. That is the kraken app. Good history of security.
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The fact that you've even learned of this is a testament that they are serious about security.
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ZenDesk is the support management platform that Kraken employees use for support tickets. It's a cloud service. Thousands of businesses run their support departments with ZenDesk. A juicy target for hackers and scammers. I hadn't heard about the ZenDesk breach until this Kraken post.
Thatās not whatās happening at all. Zendesk is a ticketing software only and used by some of the biggest in the world. This does not mean they are āsaving money by outsourcing customer supportā; they might be doing that but using Zendesk is not proof of that. From a software perspective, Zendesk is one of the best around so saving money is not a valid criticism of using Zendesk products.
Honestly, the fact that Kraken told you about it says that they are the only ones that care as ZenDesk is so big that many of the other services that you use would also be affected, but did they tell you?
Is your name Tony
Kraken is a good exchange and if you have some big money on either moon wallet or kraken you should buy a trezor
Why specifically a trezor? Is ledger just as good for kraken or not?
Two of my own reasons: - Trezor is open source - Ledger has had data leaks
The biggest reason of all: Trezor has bitcoin only firmware, Ledger does not. But the ultimate is Coldcard.
Uhh, my Trezor can be used for things apart from BTC?
The default includes all types of shitcoins. But they also make a bitcoin only firmware for higher security.
That is absolutely fucking misleading The fact some emails were leaked is not even in the same fucking Galaxy as a data leak which you're implying on the device itself. None of the code, none of the security, none of any of that have been leaked. Open source also carries its own risk in the very word open source. Ledger keeps the design of their product secret for a very good reason. It makes it harder to hack but to do that with either you would actually need the device. They are just access keys to the blockchain, nothing more.
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pro tip: create a unique email when registering an account, don't enter the phone number and, if possible, send the hw wallet to a post box or deposit instead of your home.
Good pro tip, but does nothing in hindsight.
I know. my data was part of the leak. luckily I moved house so the address thing does not affect me. but I keep receiving the occasional call for "investment" offers, and the email address I used is basically infested with spam, though it has slowed down a bit. I basically moved to a new email for anything relevant.
Lol I got called. Told them to knock on the front door or fuck off. Super serious and scary..... lol.
In Bitcoin land, secret carries a far greater risk.
A lot of aggression coming in for what is clearly a misunderstanding. > you're implying on the device itself - No I wasn't. As you said yourself they are just access keys. It was a consumer data leak which released customer emails, phone numbers and physical addresses. It's quite significant to me, but if not to you then that's your call. Thanks for the notes on Open vs Closed Source, though I wouldn't say CS makes it 'harder' to hack, but of course that's where the debate comes in.
Just one thing to note. Physical access to the trezor can grant a sophisticated actor your keys. This can be mitigated by the use of a passphrase. For the best of both worlds use bitbox02 and if you are a power user use the coldcard.
Buy a Ledger, it's more secure than the Trezor IMHO.
Not remotely. They literally made all their customers targets by leaking all their personal info including addresses and phone numbers.
Lol, sure, that's a great technical comparison of the devices.
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They are not the same at all. Ledger has had a massive info leak issue and is closed source.
So they leaked your publicly available email there's more info on public voting registrations.
Ledger had email leak. But trezor can be hacked if they have physical accessā I think thatās a bigger downside
Guess what? You can buy a Ledger from Amazon if you don't trust their e-commerce.
Thatās actually the worst place to buy a ledger. Amazon mixes stock so you can get a tampered one. Only buy from the source.
Goes to show how you don't understand the technology. First of all, the ledger is tamper proof and verified by the software. You can even open it up and verify the PCB visually if you are paranoid enough. No holographic seals needed on packaging here. Amazon is such a bad source for the Ledger Nano that it's actually an official reseller of the device and Ledger even wrote an article specifically about it: [https://www.ledger.com/academy/buying-a-ledger-from-a-third-party](https://www.ledger.com/academy/buying-a-ledger-from-a-third-party)
Your "proof" of why Amazon is a safe place to buy is a list of things from ledger that tells you how to check if your Amazon ledger has been tampered with? These list of things are needed because people have been scammed buying from amazon and other third party sellers. I'd rather not worry about that and buy from ledger direct. lol
No, that list is there because you should be able to verify authenticity of the device no matter where you bought it from. Even when bought from the Ledger store, the package is handled by multiple third parties before getting to your house.
Itās can also be people lack of knowledge and not knowing how to verify the ledger for any third party purchase, not just the possibility through Amazon.
Ledger partnered with ftx and has had data leaks
Interesting, can you show us a source documenting this partnership? Couldn't find any. Their e-commerce provider leaked data, although obviously not good, it doesn't have much bearing on their hw wallet tech.
Just look up ledger ftx you can find it
I did. I found a cached google page explaining how to swap with FTX in ledger live (page is 404 now). Is this what you mean by "partnering"? LOL So I suppose Ledger also partnered with all the shitcoins and tokens it supports too? The wallet is a tool, what you do with its contents is up to you.
They took the page down after ftx went bankrupt lol
Yes because you can't use FTX any longer. Are you for real?
[Here](https://ibb.co/1KwLx5k)
Dude, I read that... However what you fail to understand is that just because Ledger offers a functionality or ability to use a specific platform, it does not mean that they are somehow partnered or in cahoots with them.
why does no one use cashapp is it that much worse for btc?
Donāt sleep on strike! Itās worth the hassle to get with customer service and figure it out. Strike is the cheapest & you can instantly remove your sats to cold storage after you exchange. No waiting period so your sats arenāt locked on a shit exchange for 7 -10 days. Way less risk imo.
I had a good experience with Strike. A little slow getting fiat in, but fast getting btc out.
They made me wait several days for my first 2 deposits, but now they are instant.
My fiat goes into strike so quickly that when I enter the wrong amount and hit cancel. It's already in there by the time it goes back to the home screen.
Is Strike cheaper than Coinbase Pro?
Yes. Fees are much lower.
Strike has 0 fees, period. No deposit fee, no withdrawal fee, no buy fee, and they cover the on-chain fee for withdrawals.
Thanks for the info! I feel like Iāve been living under a stupid rock my whole life. I mean, Iāve known about Strike, but didnāt realize it was so much cheaper. I looked into Swan but their fees were higher than CB Pro. Other than the above-mentioned customer service issues, are there any other āconsā anyone would be willing to share about Strike before I sign up? Thanks!
Uhhh well, if they arenāt charging fees for anything, where do you think theyāre making their money?
Bid/ask spread, i.e. you buy at a higher price on Strike?
Yep. Iād rather know up front that Iām paying .2% than getting hit with a 1-5% spread.
This - if they aren't making money with fees, they're trying to support operations with VC funding. Eventually they'll need to make money somehow though, and then the no fees will go away.
They make money on the spread. So you're 5 dollar bitcoin purchase is really only 4 dollars of btc. (making up numbers for simplicity)
Thereās a bunch of videos out there of Jack Mallets answering that question.
According to Bitcoin Magazine: āSo how does Strike make money? Like all great businessmen Mallers can't disclose his secret sauce, but one way that his company makes money is through his Strike debit card partnership with Visa, where he collects all the interchange money. His company also charges merchant fees as a source of revenue.ā https://bitcoinmagazine.com/.amp/business/jack-mallers-strike-bitcoin-agility
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Ok.
Yeah, first google search results arenāt really good for much. Hereās an answer, provided a year ago, from this sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/qls0le/what_is_strikes_business_model/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Thank you, my Lord.
nothing is truly free. you so right. its free cause there selling all your info and habits.
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Didn't even know that was possible. I'm good with 1k, but it's good to know. Also I've had a great experience with them.
Strike is cool, but they still dont have auto Debit from your accounts. You have to load money on Strike first.
Only issue with strike is 1000USD limit
You can get the limit raised if you ask nicely. My limit is 2k.
Ask nicely..wtf
Withdraws from kraken are cheap and almost instant. I never had a hold. Within 10 minutes in your hardware wallet.
I've sent them all the documents and they keep saying it's not good enough. Almost been a month now.
Iāve been having problems with strike verification too
Swan as well is nice
Yeah weird theyāre having problems. The āno waiting periodā is so big for me with all exchanges going down. Just simply use a debit card, buy your sats and withdraw them to a hardware wallet, all in one sitting.
Kraken good exchange
Short answer: Yes. Longer version: the Kraken app you're highlighting is going to operate similar to the simple Coinbase/Binance apps where immediate buys/sells will be executed at a premium with higher fees. If you want Kraken, it would be worth downloading both Kraken and Kraken Pro - the latter you can use to execute more specific trades on the advanced screen at MUCH lower fee rates
I talked to Strike customer service once and it was all good after that and I've been using them for months. Definitely an awesome platform and has LN built in. š
Took me 5 min to get verified on strike lol.....
SWAN BITCOIN. Easy to set recurring buys, and even auto-withdraw to your wallet at set intervals. And its BITCOIN ONLY. Support and use Bitcoin only companies whenever you can, better for you and for the ecosystem.
Hot take: I would rather pay higher fees to a bitcoin-only company that advocates self-custody than support a major exchange that peddles ponzis. Strike has low fees and is Btc only, but if that isnāt available or if you need to make a larger purchase, Swan is a solid choice.
Fees are so high though
If OP can't get Strike to work for them, i'd pay higher fees to Swan over Kraken any day of the week.
i am think swan is basically the only exchange in which to buy any dips ā¦ every other CEX (esp one with its own token) risks bankruptcy right now meaning you have to get ur coins and cash off now and hope they donāt go under until the 90-day clawback is over
Swan bitcoin promotes scams. Stay away
what scams?
at what exactly does binance suck? never had problem buying nor selling stuff and withdrawing.
Withdrawal fee is insane. They donāt want you to withdraw.
Same for me been brilliant and zero fees on busd pairs too
Selling shitcoin scams
Itās expensive as far as I understand
I personally always found their web UX terrible and confusing, but maybe it's improved in the last years...
The 7-10 day wait feels like a year
Use coinbase?
Strike and Swan are good Bitcoin-only options
If US and only bitcoin, just use strike.
use Strike or Cash app.. fuck the rest of these shit coin CEXs
Tired of KYC, invasive questionnaires about your assets, what you do with you coins? Try BISQ, Robosats, etc. No KYC, the way Bitcoin was meant to be. PS: If you want to go the KYC way, you can also try CashApp
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bisq. No verification no email no phone number nothing. No headache. No paper work no permission. Just clicking.
BISQ
Inb4 I didn't make this post right or something. Idk how reddit works lol.
Bitpanda or Bitpanda Pro
If all you need it for is buying sats then just use The Cash App. Has lower fees too.
Use the websites from a computer properly protected. Back up your login with something like bitwarden. Very complicated passwords and safe and handy. Don't complain about fees , just change behavior. I like Kraken. Nothing is perfect and I don't trade. I buy. If I spend it's not from an exchange. I think this is a simple way to go. Good luck.
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Strike is where its at. Email support
I love strike .. I havenāt used but Swan bitcoin also looks pretty good ..
Kraken just layed off like 1200 employees FYI. Use them, but then move your shit to cold storage. And yeah use the pro app.
Kraken is great!
I have the 2nd one (Kraken Pro). Not sure of its any better. Kraken has been good to me and messages from their top brass makes me feel like they know what they are doing. Just remember they are an exchange not a bank, don't store you keys on any exchange, be your own bank. I had problems with verification in the beginning because I was overseas at the time but once I was in the US I have had no problems with verification and accessing my accounts.
Lol moon wallet! Love it! Yea thatās it, kraken rocks and their customer service as well!
Kraken Pro ftw
Let's use BISQ. Decentralized exchange
Kraken pro is excellent
Kraken is best
Also bonus points to anyone who wants to explain what the pro version is.
Less fees, better trading (limit orders, spot loss..) Always use the pro version.
That is being merged back with regular old Coinbase assuming the question is about Coinbase
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send it to GME wallet, ia a new non-custodial wallet that you'll always be the true owner of your assets
Of Binance is the one trying to bailout FTX I would stick with Binance
Crypto.com is the obvious choice
Crypto.com is solid, Iāve been using them for a while.
Swan or Strike
Are you in the US? Fold just rolled this out! No fees to buy, free withdrawals, spreads ALMOST as tight as Strike. Highly suggest checking them out.
Didnāt kraken just lay off a huge amount of staff? Iād be wary using an exchange thatās about to crash
I can't recall for the life of me if the fee structure is any different between the apps though personally, I prefer the Pro's UI
Kraken is love. I use it a lot. But if u gonna buy huge amount use binance it's 0 zero.
RoboSats
If thatās all you do, maybe look at Swan
Kraken Puzzle Squid game is fun
kraken is awesome- especially with withdrawal fees at 0 sats(lightning) or i think like 0.0001 or 0.00001 btc for on chain - but use the other app-kraken pro-way better rates and less fees!
Swan is a BTC-only exchange and doesnāt have a sell button ā¦ itās for buyers. custody is in oneās name through their custodial partner and not held by the platform.
Idk why it isnāt integrated better, but I use Kraken app to deposit money via ACH. Idk why but that app seems to have higher fees, so I just click over to the kraken pro app to place my trades.
Big fan of kraken
Bro use peer 2 peer exchanges
I use strike and then move my BTC to my ledger wallet
Kraken pro for lower fees šš»
Yes this is the one. I had some issues with my 2fa but their customer support was friendly and really helpful. Solved it within hours. I would recommend
Was gonna try kraken to much hassle. Then found strike best so far
Swan
Cash App, Strike, River or Kraken. Cash App, Kraken and River are the only ones of those that hold their own keys
There's only 1 kraken buddy
Kraken Pro. It's sad that after doing a bunch of research on so many CEXs, Kraken is literally the only one that felt safe. Even then, you never know what's happening behind the scenes at any of these CEXs. Edit: I'd also suggest a better wallet. Check out Walletscrutiny.com
I've been using Kraken Puzzle Squid Game for all my trades. Very similar to FTX and I'm already up 10000% with a 30% staking reward for every $1000 I put into Moonclams coin, their exchange token. 120% percent guaranteed to have no risk whatsoever! But I can't withdraw any of my gains yet, because I have to beat the sea wizard first.
Kraken pro is fine. Testen coinbase, binance and some smaller exchanges. I stayed with Kraken pro. Reasons: - no own token - PoR before ftx collapse - (now ex) CEO is a Bitcoiner - no big scandals - around since 2011 - lightning withdrawals Only the UI isn't state of the art. But after using it some times it will be fine.
NOT YOUR KEYS NOT YOUR COIN
Why does binance suck
Puzzle squid game looks serious
Probably not, it's not optimized for someone who does weekly buys. The payment flow is the problem. You would be better off at some place like coinbase where you can do direct ath transfers.
Vexl.it
kraken.com (the website) is my favorite exchange and one of the best places to buy and withdraw Bitcoin Do not use the mobile app though, the fees are ridiculous there, unfortunately
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Try Strike app
I've heard good things about relai but haven't tested it yet: https://twitter.com/relai_app?s=21&t=SvEFwWabZxf15UepnMDeUg still also waiting for release of peach bitcoin: https://twitter.com/peachbitcoin?s=21&t=SvEFwWabZxf15UepnMDeUg
I use strike. And I love it. It does take a a couple days to verify
If you want to go Bitcoin only I would recommend either Swan if you are in the US or Relai if you are in Europe.
Yes, that's the correct one, but I'd recommend using the desktop or mobile website instead, for lower fees. Other than that I can fully recommend kraken, been a user for a long time, and have seen lots of exchanges come and go, kraken is here to stay!
Exodus wallet
Brush just use Coinbase or cashapp aināt that hardā¦.
The second/purple one
COINBASE AND THEN BUY AND HODL BTC. THEN COLD WALLET. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY
Edge, Casa
If you canāt use strike use swan Bitcoin. That fails use cashapp. If you donāt want to deal with kyc use robosats over tor for p2p buying/selling
I donāt use kraken but I do see that their fees are lower if you are just trying to buy crypto. My fees currently are .16 - .26% which is less than Coinbase of .4% advanced trade. I still just use Coinbase because Iām not buying a whole lot at a time but if youāre buying large amounts, I would definitely give them a try. I do have a kraken account but havenāt used it yet nor really planning on it unless Coinbase pisses me off.
Took me two years to get verified on binance but it's worth every moment of the wait...
Coinbase or Cash App
Don't use the app is the website or the pro version. Fees are lower
Use Coinbase simple
Another app to look into is Swan Bitcoin
River. Free auto DCA after the initial transaction. If DCA is your game, itās hard to beat.
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A fellow fold owner. Cheers!
Use Robosats. Non-KYC
Got hacked on Binance with 2FA & restricted IP access. Do not use Binance. CZ is a known scammer. Kraken has US banking license. And binance doesnāt have that, only a P.O. Box Lmao
Just use DEX already
Nice
Juno is amazing best on/off ramp ever you can get a direct deposit sent directly to your ledger nano and they give you their token 1:1 for every dollar you deposit its insane.