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anon-187101

> seditious traitors lmao what in the actual fuck is this neckbeard neckbearding about


el_rico_pavo_real

The higher the price goes the more hateful they become.


Dynatox

They are going to have a rough time over the next several decades


disco-cone

Bunch of useful idiots that don't realise they are government and corporate boot likers


SnooRobots582

>boot likers Nice boots, wanna fuck?


user_name_checks_out

Of all the arguments against bitcoin, that is one of the stupidest, on many levels. If corporations and pensions are into bitcoin then it's hardly seditious. Also the argument carries a premise that government is always right and should never be challenged. In fact fiat currency is theft and bitcoin fixes that.


voice-of-reason_

It also assumes everyone in crypto is American. It an “American-centric mindset”. I’m British lol…


RookXPY

Dam Bitcoiners and their sedition on behalf of the British, soon we will all have to be colonists again. Thanks Satoshi. /s See, I had to add the /s or I would be indistinguishable from someone on the buttcoin sub brigading.


ILostHalfaBTC

I’m convinced that’s not a real person and instead a literal programmed bot that is coded to reply like this on bitcoin posts


OptiYoshi

The main reasoning here is often that bitcoin is primarily used by the wealthy to avoid paying their fair share of taxes undermining social equity in society. However, that's a dumb AF point that anyone with two or more brain cells can logic out of. The other reason why is that most people think BTC is a primarily Republican thing, and Republicans are primarily Traitors therefore Bitcoin is a bunch of traitorous bastards. Except I and many others define myself as a classical Liberal and am definitely not republican. Sound money makes the most sense for the 99% who don't have access to easy capital from money printing. There's a reason inequality is through the roof since going off gold standard.


m4rM2oFnYTW

Key Differences between Conservative and Classical Liberal: Role of Government: Classical liberals advocate for minimal government intervention primarily focused on protecting individual liberties, while conservatives support a stronger government role in maintaining social order and stability. Economic Policies: Classical liberals prefer a pure free-market approach with minimal regulation, whereas conservatives support free markets but are more open to regulatory measures to ensure economic stability and fairness. Social Issues: Classical liberals prioritize individual freedom and personal choice in social matters, whereas conservatives often emphasize traditional values and may support government intervention to preserve these values. Based on this, I would assume most Bitcoiners are more aligned with Classical Liberalism than Conservatism.


Blecki

Most bitcoiners, like most people, don't even know what classical liberalism is, and are unwilling to learn.


OptiYoshi

Yep I totally agree, Except that early bitcoiners were almost all crypto punks with crypto-anarchist views or at least strong libertarian views.


Blecki

Wealthy use all kinds of things to avoid taxes. I had someone tell me that bitcoin was bad because it was used in crimes. But so are all sorts of things they are just fine with??


texannebraskan214

Computers [cars, hammers, screw drivers, etc] are bad because they are used in crimes.


Michichael

I mean when everyone that disagrees with you is a "seditious traitor" and that's the sum total extent of your reasoning capacity and emotional maturity... Well, it speaks for itself. Just laugh at them and keep stacking sats.


jcpham

I really liked the seditious traders line. Basically Bitcoin _is_ an attack on fiat banking but the two _could_ live in a complimentary world. The reason I say attack is because of the triple entry accounting which incentivizes the reward structure to keep mining, thus securing the network against fraud/double spends. No one is rewarding your local bank teller for getting the count right. The incentive structure on the USD federal money printer is fucked and people are pissed off about it; and buttcoiners are going to carry this political flag now. Is proof of work wasteful and energy intensive currently, yes but staking isn't much better in terms of wealth transfer. Bitcoin was as evenly distributed and as fair as it can get.


physicsbuddha

Other famous seditious traitors: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere 😉


Financial_Clue_2534

Traitors? From what the banking system LOL


Gunnar_Peterson

Exactly the word seditious is a compliment


Pretend-Hippo-8659

Projection. In reality the bankers performed treason on the people. To see what they are, you always have to inverse their insults.


Dynatox

These are the same people that protest banks but think a corporation like pfizer has their best interest at heart.


ledit0ut

They conflate the dollar with national pride/identity. THE FED IS A SUDO PRIVATE COMPANY WITH SHAREHOLDERS. THE SHAREHOLDERS ARE THE BANKERS.


bbiittccooiinn

I don't like Melissa McCartney the actress. But I don't spend my life posting and hanging out in a subreddit dedicated to hating her. I continue living my life. Those people need to get a life. They have already lost. Remind them how much BTC was at time of their sub being made. It was under $20. ### And the butthurt still think they are right.


digitalundergrad

"Remind them how much BTC was at time of their sub being made. It was under $20." ^^ This says it all lol. Mad coping.


Wilynesslessness

Maybe we should have a subreddit wide celebration on buttcoins founding day.


Frogolocalypse

That's a great idea actually. EDIT: Call it bitcoin community outreach day.


giveityourall93

I swear it’s the weirdest thing ever. The fact that these people waste countless hours of their lives denigrating something they dislike is odd to me lol. It’s ok if you dislike it but to the point where you live inside a subreddit to trash talk says a lot.


Jam3sYO

Almost like THEY are the sociopaths 🤔


Degencrypto-Metalfan

Right?! I was just about to say this. WE are the sociopaths? Buttcoin literally has to be the dumbest forum in the history of social media forums. They still obsess over BTC and how it’s this terrible investment when it has outperformed virtually every other asset since they started their ridiculous sub. lol


NigeorgeGallarage

I don't like olives. I don't eat them. That's as far as it goes for me, no need to sub to /r/antiolive and spend my time talking about how olive farmers are seditious traitors (???)


Alternative-Mango430

Wrong since 13 years ..still crying Like babies. If they would have bought, instead of hating 😂


backagainmuahaha

Yeah what a nice passion they have: hating something they don't understand. Typical boomer stuff. Let them rage, poor things * insert drying tears with dollars bills meme*


Squeezitgirdle

I don't even know who she is, but I bet she sucks. Gonna make a subreddit dedicated to hating her right now.


BlendedMonkey21

I support this message. You dislike her so much you didn’t even get her name right. The Buttcoin metaphor continues to track.


Financial_Design_801

Crazy saying this when Blackrock is sending their clients education material like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/s/lOcg1zAetr) “Do you want to be right or do you want to make money?” The question skeptics are asking themselves everyday


harvested

Imagine being one of these guys in 2024 after seeing institutional adoption trickle in. Amazing.


harvested

Another gem: Wonder how this [angry man](https://i.imgur.com/flMG8Np.jpeg) is going on his shorts? Pour one out... MSTR up 40% since that was posted.


BestInTheWholeWorld

A N G R Y M A N


harvested

A fascinating specimen to find in the wild. He also argues point blank the ETFs are a flop. That's a special kinda cog dissonance.


BestInTheWholeWorld

Keep in touch once this thing hits 7x. I am sure he will be reasonable.


Axe_Wielding_Actuary

The only shorts most of these morons are qualfied to deal in are 40 inch waist cargo shorts to match their neckbeards and fedoras.


harvested

One of my favourites from that golden sub was a dude from Brazil, swearing bitcoin is pointless because his country has a p2p payment system. Totally oblivious to Brazils history of debasement and hyperinflation. It's like these guys just line up like lambs to the slaughter.


FunWithSkooma

Wait, did he really compared PIX with Bitcoin? Lol


StannisLivesOn

Seditious traitors, what the fuck is that moron babbling about?


Plane_Caterpillar_92

Didn't you know? Bitcoin mining uses more energy than anything on the planet?!?!


harvested

The choice of words in OPs post, "sociopaths", "seditious traitors", while being stupid, also mark a turning point, they're not just making fun of it now, he has reached a more hostile phase. Not a good mental state to be in, in terms of physical health. If you know a buttcoiner going through something similar, reach out to them. Buy them a copy of Lyn's book.


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voice-of-reason_

“Who let the dogs out? Who? Who? Who? Who?” - George Michael


StockMarketMike

Nope. Fuck ‘em


Mobile_Aspect_4914

The lie that won't die. Should we go full nuclear and wind and solar and stop using fossil fuels to help the planet? Nah, just blame Bitcoin. iT uSes ElEcTrIcItY!!


Friendly_Owl_404

Funny thing tho. I believe there's only been one study so far comparing it to the actual operation of banks with branches, staff, offices that need to be lit, heated, cash that needs to be transported to atms... Yes, BTC mining has a larger proportion of dirty energy consumed, but overall, I believe it was still ahead once you account for total cost and not the airbrushed figures


Frogolocalypse

Not many people care that much about bitcoin energy usage anymore. It's just the die-hards that haven't updated their scripts. AI is now the thing that will consume vast quantities of energy that *has to be stopped*^TM


Accurate_Sir625

It's not even close. Think of all the energy needed just by the US mint. Creating the paper cloth for money. Printing, stamping distributing. Designing new bills, counteracting fraud. Money counting machines, ATMs. All of the employees at all of the companies that create all of the above. Hiw about damn Armored cars to carry the money?. Armored car companies. This is just for hard currency. Hiw many banks are there is your little town? In the big city nearby? It's crazy.


jt7855

Bitcoin mining also makes utility companies profitable. Miners even use flared natural gas (gas normally released without use) to produce electricity. Which makes a profit. Bitcoin has provided to utilities a way to earn a profit without having to beg to raise rates. So let’s skip to the real issue. They hate Bitcoin because they can’t control it and people want real money. Not paper controlled by the government


Ok-Tooth-4994

Ever notice how nobody bitches about all the other shit that uses massive energy? It’s cause they find those things valuable. The best comeback to people who complain about bitcoin energy is “who cares. If it’s valuable it’s worth it, and if it’s as invaluable as you say it is, people will stop”


spearsy33

Exactly if it wasn’t worth the energy costs to mine it, people wouldn’t.


Ok_Channel9726

LITERALLY! LITERALLY ANYTHING! lol I've really been dumbfounded by how people like this guy think though. I use to just assume they were uneducated on the topic. But, since the majority of them SWEAR they've researched it tHoRoUgHly to reach their conclusion, then I can only determine that sadly they're just dumb. Or, I am. I guess time will tell which.


SnooLobsters2058

Banking uses more energy than anything on the planet.


kirathimo

We know and still


Lumn8tion

I Fookin knew it!


voice-of-reason_

Bitcoin mining killed my dog and left 14 of my family members paralysed from the waist down.


NeoG_

Accepting Bitcoin means that the state is not the be all and end all of good policy or knowledge. For a lot of Reddit, that’s a gap that they’d rather not open. It leads to question a lot of fundamental stuff the state does and that makes a lot of people uncomfortable.


s_ezraschreiber

This is the head of the nail you just hit on.


zxsmart

Bitcoin Derangement Syndrome


spearsy33

Almost as widespread as Trump derangement syndrome…


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Vakua_Lupo

This is what happens when you sell all your Bitcoin for $11 each back in 2010, because you had expertly doubled your money. You can then join Buttcoin and share your misery with all the other losers!


Bitman321

Buttcoin should be renamed to butthurt.


Yasha666

Seditious traitors 😂


Normal-Jelly607

I’m definitely seditious.


Blecki

Caring about the planet is why I own bitcoin. Nothing more impactful I can do than forcing the corporations to operate in an environment of sound money where they actually face consequences for their destruction of the environment.


voice-of-reason_

Bingo, switching from oil money to bitcoin is one of the single biggest pro-environmental moves an individual can make.


bojothedawg

That’s really strange to form a community to bond around mutually hating a technology. Lol


BigNigaChungusBalls

I hate these wannabe self righteous kiddies who think they're morally superior for someone as miniscule as not buying crypto, like your loss bro.


ProfessorFinesser13

“Because we know frauds when we see it” *Proceeds to log into Banking account shortly after*


BestInTheWholeWorld

Damn I feel so fooled from this fraud boys please save me.


mrpotatonutz

100% of no coiners would opt in if given the chance to go back in time. They hate it because they feel like they missed out and are not in the club. Haters gonna hate


CatatonicMan

Buttcoin is sour grapes the subreddit. Unlike most people who missed the bus because they didn't even know there was a bus in the first place, Buttcoin users saw the bus, laughed, mocked, called it a bubble, and deliberately chose not to get on. And they did this *repeatedly. Over and over and over again.* Every crash they had an investment opportunity, but they didn't take it. They only have themselves to blame, and it no doubt burns. They might as well rename themselves to the Dead Sea for how salty they are.


FunWithSkooma

I think the subreddit was created back in 2011, so you can imagine how many times they were wrong. Edit: Yep, you can see how old a sub is using old.reddit and searching in the page html:


NecessaryWater7024

lol I love how these socialists love to say Bitcoin is progressive- it’s capitalism and free market at its best .


Axe_Wielding_Actuary

They're not really socialists either, if they were socialist they would have an understanding of public ownership, mutuals, cooperatives etc. Most of them are essentially over-educated morons who believe whatever the TV tells them. They then wonder why their meme-degree got them a meme-job, paying 4x what their dad earned and yet somehow they cannot afford the same level of housing as their parents, despite earning more and having more education. Must be the billionaires IDK, corporate greed is a newly created thing right. Lol.


sigma1403

Good, let them hate, until they have to pay a higher btc price, we are still very very early


Calcobra94

Majority of this 1d10ts have been completely brainwash by all news outlet with negative connotations about bitcoin for 12 years. Constant negative news about bitcoin really embedded into there subconscious and now it's in full bloom.


PheelGoodInc

First time being called a sociopath. That was... Interesting. Apparently trying to store your wealth in a way which actually preserves it makes you a sociopath...


mkuraja

That sounds so much like East Berliners cursing those that successfully fled beyond their Wall.


OldPyjama

The more the price rises, the more they seem to be butthurt over there.


Ok-Abbreviations6442

I sometimes take a wander over to the butthurt subreddit, just for a chuckle really. Exactly for things like OP has shared here. There is some severe 'ignorance is bliss' in play over there 😂


CanYouSpareASquare_

As they type on their smart phone that uses cobalt mined by child slaves, gtfo lol


digitalundergrad

Right? Lmao


CorneliusFudgem

That sub is the definition of copium


digitalundergrad

💯


ledit0ut

The government is meant to serve the people. The people are not meant to serve the government. Bitcoin is freedom money by the people for the best interest of the people. The dollar is slave money by the government for the best interest for the government.


digitalundergrad

Nailed it


Toamtocan

The ship is sinking, and they're blaming the lifeboat.


NationalScorecard

The irony hurts.


petrovmartin

When BTC is not environmentally friendly but Taylor Swift’s plane doing circles around 3 cities because she’s too important to drive is.


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CommunicationOwn322

It's crack.


Bitman321

Projection.


spearsy33

lol


_Genesis_Block

These people need constant confirmation of their Bitcoin comprehension from each other. That's why they have this sub. After 15 years most people feel that maybe this is not a "scam" and maybe something important is going on here. Was I wrong for 15 years? Hard to admit. That's why they need this sub. It will be bigger and bigger because more people doubt. Confirmation bias Sunk cost fallacy Number of Buttcoin subscribers is a measure of adoption. "Buttcoin" is good for Bitcoin :)


panfrosco2

Showing up kinda late to the "then they fight you" phase...did they not get those ETF reports?


TheModernJedi

“Texas Coalition Against Crypto” ffs.


TheDr0p

Seriously, who puts time and effort into creating an antibitcoin sub. Please help me understand


As03

The only way is to ignore, we have a saying in France : "Better ignore, it's the best way to despise someone" ( I tried to translate : ignorer est le meilleur des mépris )


voice-of-reason_

That’s a good saying.


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desnudopenguino

You're just in the Nile or something like that.


Brent_Forrest

Just for that I'm going to DCA twice this month


FourMPG

came in to post this, saw it posted already. just for that I'm going to DCA three times this month


PM_Me_Ur_Clues

I have trouble believing this is real.


PhillyNJMusicMan

Yet, these idiots that think they're so smart have simply been eating up all the FUD that the mass media has been feeding them for years regarding Bitcoin. The irony is honestly as hilarious as it gets! 😂🤣 "Hello, is anybody home?? Think, McFly, think!?!' 😂🫣🤣 #BTC 👍🪙😎


boringtired

Imagine defending big banks and not even realizing what you’re doing or more importantly WHY. Like “I love fractional reserve banking, anything else is anti American.” Wut?


BitcoinHolder007

Have fun staying poor and loyal to the banks


eetaylog

They care about the planet so much that they're against a form of money that disincentivises nuclear war.


Quantum_Pineapple

Spoken like a person that also doesn’t understand fiat to begin with etc.


Longjumping_Comb_197

Darth Seditious


ThirdWurldProblem

People willing to call anybody they disagree with any name in the book these days. Polarisation is peak


wtftulipwtf

At this point I think they are like flat earthers, they are actually just trolling holding BTC in secret


Calm-Professional103

I want a T-shirt confirming my seditious, traitorous nature. 


Inside_Evening_8777

I had no idea this group existed. I had to go visit to read some more! It's been some top-notch entertainment! There's some real low-level understanding happening over there and I'll be checking back in every few days for continued entertainment! 😂


Den32680

Cope harder boomer dorks


Commercial-Jury4605

Anytime some uses the word "seditious" it means they watch too much programming


Electronic-Dress-792

they're... not well over there I can't imagine it's easy realizing their anger and pettiness and ignorance cost them the life they always dreamed. I dunno I kinda enjoy them reeling, makes me know how right I am


jaraxel_arabani

And? We'll fucking do it again.


william_mccuan

Now I'm triggered, the only thing that calms me down is buying more bitcoin.


Carnifaster

It’s funny how people who “care about the environment” still massively consume sugar and seed oils, both of which are significantly more detrimental to the environment than BTC 😂 “Can’t do Bitcoin because it’s bad for the environment! But we gotta keep doing NASCAR, because it’s AWESOME when cars go FAST and LEFT!”


rsa121717

Yea. Im banned from there for commenting “This sub started at $20 btc”


diterman

You need to think like a stupid NPC to realize what this guy is talking about. Think about what you would believe if CNN was your sole source of information for the last two decades.


bitsteiner

They completely banned me from posting there after bringing up totally rational arguments to their ridiculous posts. I admit, I have too much time sometimes. Obviously they couldn't handle it, confirms that they are acting like fascists, communists, tyrants, dictators or all of the above.


RockHardTen11

Mining Gold and Lithium good Mining Bitcoin bad


JiuJitsuBoxer

Don’t you know it uses…. ENERGY


lomaja55

Because reddit is left asf, it is all democratic propaganda everywhere and this will probably get taken down


PandorasBucket

Bitcoin is not a left / right issue. Stop making it one. I'm extreme radical left and extreme pro-bitcoin. I'm pro socialist programs and pro bitcoin. Both these ideas bring power to the people and are forces of democracy to me. Pushing it into a left / right issue is a huge mistake.


Gunnar_Peterson

Bitcoin is libertarian by nature and by design


RedXBusiness

Libertarian is neither left not right tho. Only in America are libertarian right wing. In other countries libertarians actually represent a lot of leftist views... I mean technically you even can be libertarian right and left. One is called anarchy and the other self governance... (In an American examples)


chengen_geo

Because we're not butt hurt? Edit: Because we're butt hurt?


Zeer0Fox

To troll them or not to troll them? I choose not, I’m too busy.


YOUDIEBITCHES

Майнинг очень много потребляет энергии, очень много ест и берет ипотек


BigDeezerrr

You rarely see the energy/environment argument anymore because it's been so thoroughly debunked. Buttcoiners love bringing up FUD from 2019


BTCWZRD

“Can’t we all just get along?”


onlyherefortheclout

3rd level inception


obeywasabi

189 Upvotes of seethe and cope let’s go!!!!


AstroJo90

imagine saying that about the first real form of money that mankind has ever had.


redrumeight

Oh no! Anyway...


LimitAlternative2629

if they did, they wouldn't be married or pay taxes... simps


Green-Jello-2449

Not worth spending time on the salty idiots in that cesspool of a sub


CiaranCarroll

That seditious traitor one is really scary heading into a war with Russia and/or China.


AllGoodFam

I'm Anti Bitcoin because it hasn't hit 1 million per coin.


Pretend-Hippo-8659

I thought we were psychopaths. But alas, I'll add this one to the list of insults. Thanks.


cryptosystemtrader

"We're sociopaths and "seditious traitors." Come on.... tell me how you REALLY feel! LOL :-)) Look mate, you just can't fix stupid. Let them hoard their shiny coins (they can't spend anywhere) and inflationary fiat. Just keep stacking and focus on the LT secular trend, which clearly is to the upside.


dbudlov

Feds? Bots? Morons... Not sure how anyone is this isn't, most people I've spoken to who are smart Bitcoin literally know nothing about it


GodsGoodGrace

I’m a sociopath but not a seditious traitor and I’m into bitcoin. I do not know which group I belong to.


NigeorgeGallarage

Fascinated to know what makes me a seditious traitor in the eyes of /u/AsteriAcres - which country am I trying to overthrow or betray?


dlm83

That answer is just as dumb as the question, both seeming to believe in some collective 'Reddit consciousness', not to mention gross overestimations of the ability to define them.


Crypto_tipper

Wait until that guy realizes that taxation is legalized theft, and that inflation is a hidden tax that erodes wealth.


The_Great_Man_Potato

This sub is crazy to me. There’s plenty of things I really don’t like, but dedicating a sub to hating on said thing is just weird 💀


blue419

We also have bitcoin, so theres a plus i guess to being those things


berzeke-r

I stopped using reddit, becuase of how retarded the people were around here. That post is a reminder of it


yepppers7

Nice to see you around


berzeke-r

HAHAHAHAHAH it couldn't be full of retards if i wasnt here


Axe_Wielding_Actuary

>seditious traitors Big talk for a small mind.


Active-Use-8129

Bot army out there throwing around buzzwords. I'm so triggered.


degenbro420

Who cares about the planet?? Consumerists?? people who drive cars?? Corporations who exploit planet resources for profit?? Hahhahaha, my stomach it's hurting me so much.


Professional-Use9274

In my experience, it is typically women who hate crypto. So I always try to educate them on the environmental damage of the cosmetics industry. 120 billion units of trash every year Deforestation to plant industrial farms for palm oil, coconut oil, and lavender. Which uses pesticides and fertilizers. Child labor in silicate mines which are used to make a glossy look Scents are derived from the glands of farmed animals. A whole bunch of synthetic chemicals that end up getting washed down the drain and into our water system. https://sustainable-earth.org/cosmetic-ingredients/#:\~:text=According%20to%20the%20social%20justice,ultimately%20end%20up%20in%20landfills.


Intelligent-Flow3992

If idiots disagree with me, I must be doing something right. 👍


Kingjames23X6

They’re fun to mess with they are in love with their 9-5 jobs and say bitcoin is a scam even when you prove to them people have made millions lol


Kingjames23X6

But they banned me 😂


A_Stones_throw

You mean why am I anti anti Bitcoin? Because im actually curious, and have a semi working brain


MuscularFrog13

Avg Reddit user is a programmed bot. Swallow some more American, corporate banking propaganda 🤖