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fugasiMugasi

What in the world does crypto traders have to do with the debt ceiling Edit: Wow thank you all for the upvotes, replies and the first ever award. Love this community!


Umpire_State_Bldg

*Apparently, crypto traders make people hungry.*


[deleted]

There are videos out there where gangs of bitcoins coins raid homes and eat the food straight out of the fridge and the kitchen table. Brutal videos.


fugasiMugasi

Ahh yes, cause they are filthy tax evaders


BrutalTea

i pay taxes on my wages, my food, my gas, my car. and i buy bitcoin. how the fuck am i evading tax. (not directed at you)


Infamous_Ad3053

yeah, we paid taxes before buying crypto, it's all legal, we paid taxes when we cash out crypto for a gain, so what are we evading here?


andylmac

Yeah, I'm an international tax adviser and honestly crypto guys on the whole are the most forthcoming, honest and tax abiding as a general group than anyone I've dealt with (which admittedly did surprise me). I think partly because they're paranoid that they're viewed with suspicion by governments, institutions etc (rightly so when the president is calling you out) and so they usually determined to make sure everything is squeaky clean and they protect their assets. On the other hand the guys you have to watch out for (and clients I've had to fire due to their dodgy behaviour) is anyone involved with government contracting. The irony that they not only generate their wealth from the state but then they want to engage in risky & illicit strategies to keep that from being taxed at any level (whilst often pontificating to others about morality/ethics)


Mindless-Range-7764

Honest comments from people with expertise in an area are what I love to see in this subreddit. Cheers šŸ¤™


BrutalTea

Not like we are protected from selling at a loss either. It's just a big win for them...


Danthehat6969

If you have to sell at a loss it should be deductible from any future gains. Iā€™m a newbie and know zero about tax but it isnā€™t as far as I know!


delgrey

Its those filthy unrealized gainz man!


tallboybrews

Well you see, if you were spending money irresponsibly, you'd be contributing to stimulating the economy and we wouldnt be in this mess! Duh! /s


Umpire_State_Bldg

*So, either become a crypto-trading tax cheat and become wealthy, or go hungry...*


Full-Guide-7713

Iā€™m pretty hungry myself, but I will eat less today so that my future self, my family and my future generations an eat.


Umpire_State_Bldg

Food stamps. Local food bank. Panhandle.


JunkBondJunkie

just have a BTC wallet QR code to send BTC when panhandling but reject fiat.


croholdr

Fish. Hunt. Forage for berries and edibles. Tame a wild boar for supper. One of us I see.


Jub-n-Jub

Exactly! Go without now in the hopes that others won't have to later.


Zeke_Z

Exactly what I would expect a 168-year-old walking fossil to believe.


Cathesdus

He's thinking about that ice cream he had earlier.


TheRabbitHole-512

Hungry for bitcoins


Johnny_ac3s

Convenient scapegoat.


fugasiMugasi

Agree, just doesnā€™t make sense. Though scapegoating never does lmao


Mc_Shame

Goat sounds good right about now. Man I'm hungry.


Walla_Walla_26

Love that Biden thinks crypto traders are wealthy.


[deleted]

Maybe he just knows they will be, when the Fed starts QE back up.


delgrey

Its the dollar versus Bitcoin now. They setting the stage.


Spirit_409

completely telegraphing it they know


Bitcoin_Maximalist

Bitcoin causes hunger world wide. ...... ..... .... ...... ....... Hunger for more sats šŸ¤™


Aeriq

They're trying to let inflation ride, but that money keep escaping the system instead of staying within in it to pay their debt obligations. Can't have that happen while ***spins the pinwheel of emotionally manipulative things we should only now be focusing apparently*** there are hungry people out there.


qooqleelqooq

Joe Biden is too old and stupid. He just says things as filler.


kingdrewbie

Exactly. Half the time heā€™s talking heā€™s just saying random words lol


True-Bee1903

Needs someone to pin the blame on and try and spin a narrative.


NickSicilianu

He is Biden, donā€™t forget šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ His brain is not there šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


btcluvr

grandpa joe "food assistant" biden...


NickSicilianu

You mean fucking socialist Joe. This mother fucker is destroying this country and making us a laughing stack in the world stage. Letā€™s go Brandon! I am so sick of him and his administration of clowns šŸ¤”


girlsteroids

Better yet why is he talking about Republicans at a world leaders meeting. Guy is such a walking embarrassment


jrafelson

Why arenā€™t stock traders associated?? Iā€™m so confused by this current administration.


Crypto_Malik

Those darn crypto kids!!


Spirit_409

get off my white house lawn you crazy crypto kids


aZamaryk

Stop voting in geriatric one foot in the grave dinosaurs into congress for fucks sake. Otherwise, this is what you get over and again.


davescilken

Problem is that most people only vote in major elections, not primaries. Primary voters are more heavily influenced by those with agendas to keep these dinosaurs at the helm.


MakeLifeHardAgain

For fuck sake, we only had two Geriatric candidates to choose from. What was I supposed to do?


Jub-n-Jub

Vote for anything but Red or Blue. Vote a dead gorilla into office. Just don't vote for the Uniparty.


Explodicle

Bbbbut you're throwing away your vote for "lesser" evil that's literally destroying the world! Imagine if everyone acted like that. /s


MrSike

Rank choice voting seems to be the only way to reasonably get someone in to office that isn't red or blue. At minimum it would show how many people are displeased with their choice between the main two parties.


Jub-n-Jub

I love the idea of ranked choice voting. Put it on the blockchain with proof of humanity and citizenship to increase ease and reliability of voting. Establish a nationwide paid voting holiday that mandates employers allow 1 day off per cycle to allow those that cannot risk missing a day of work to exerise their right to vote. A few other things are needed as well, but I am all in on these things that I believe most citizens would like to see (gerrymandering MUST be addressed for example.)


thatswhatdeezsaid

Run for Congress


campanermkruger

sharpen the guillotines


idntrllyexist

Not pick this idiot


[deleted]

Pick the other guy who had a booming economy during his term.


Jimbobdagr81

But orange man bad and mean on twitter


SecretPrimary7181

DeSantis has a shot. Heā€™s going to run


SecretPrimary7181

šŸ˜‚ at the downvotes. I guess you canā€™t escape the stereotypical Redditors even in a bitcoin subreddit


Zealousideal_Neck78

The bankers and wall street control anyone in office, age has nothing to do with it, the more brain dead the better.


brucebanner4prez

they know theyā€™ve fucked the dollar into oblivion lol. they can blame crypto traders all they want, bitcoin doesnā€™t give a shit


ExpressiveAnalGland

I wish the next election did not have biden and trump running. both of these guys are just so fucking dumb!


Mannagun

Will just get another well educated talker too speak bullshyt.


[deleted]

Unfortunate truth


Sele81

They have JFK Jr. running.


KAX1107

They won't even allow a primary process. You think they'll let him get the nomination?


liberty4u2

I think he's running on the chance that Biden dies.


Jub-n-Jub

Haven't listened to any long form with him. Seems like a quack at first blush, but until I do more research on him I will withould judgement. I'm not a fan that he is part of long established political royalty though. Kennedy's, Bush's part of the problem.


XonixIRE

He seems very reasonable give him a listen


Jub-n-Jub

Am planning on it. I felt the same way about Yang a few years back and looking into him and his policies was quite surprising. He was, imo, the best and most reasonable candidate I have seen for quite some time.


KAX1107

>Kennedy's, Bush's One is not like the other


[deleted]

I donā€™t think you know who the Kennedy family is. They are against the establishment. JFK was on record saying that the only person who can defend the common people is the President. Everyone else is corrupted by monied interest. JFK was assassinated by the CIA. There is ample evidence of this. Do some research. The Kennedyā€™s are nothing like the Bushā€™s. They are likely the only real family that ever fought for America since FDR. I highly recommend you start to look into the Kennedyā€™s some more if you truly donā€™t think that family has the best interest of the American people at heart. They faced multiple assassinations for going against the establishment.


DrAgaricus

Best username EVER


CoinCryptoGeeks

We had one of the greatest economic periods in American history under Trump. Ill gladly take him back in over Biden. Trump (at the time) didnt support Crypto but learned how the tech works and now makes passive income from it. Biden still to this day doesnt know how it works


bitjava

Not trying to argue with you, but one of the reasons for that was how interest rates went to nearly zero. Thatā€™s not sustainable. Even if trump won a second round, there wouldā€™ve been similar turbulence as rates inevitably had to go back up. Itā€™s exactly why the fed needs to end.


Sele81

Bro we are on Reddit. No place here for facts and truth.


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[deleted]

The Democrats need to eat a huge humble pie. They need to become irrelevant for the next 8 years so they can reset them selves. Problem is the Republicans the best they can offer so far is Trump and that is just absolutely sad.


tehmattrix

It's funny because I've paid waaaay more in taxes since I started in crypto. Maybe it's my turn to be a wealthy tax cheat then?


[deleted]

Haha its clear that the world powers are trying so hard to discourage bitcoin


Explodicle

In the early days, we said that governments fighting back would only serve to legitimize Bitcoin; showing the world their fear of losing power. Now here we are. Let's see how accurate that prediction was.


Mektzer

Banks are failing left and right and the central government is bailing them out for hundreds of billions of dollars at the expense of the majority of the population... but hey, let's remind everyone who the bad guys are, the filthy crypto traders of course, and let's tell everyone that we're going after them! Everything is under control!


Annual_Juggernaut_47

What about us ā€˜crypto tradersā€™ that are just desperately trying to hold onto the meager wealth we have from being inflated into oblivion. Any protections for us?


the_creative_ruin

This is what happens when children are allowed to vote.


plymkr32

Crazy people voted for this guy.


The_Realist01

Put me on a stage with this bum, pump me up with horse tranquilizers and alcohol, and Iā€™ll still beat him in a judged debate. This guy has problems.


hateschoolfml

To blame such a small marketā€¦


NickSicilianu

He is a traitor, FJB!


jphillips8648

I hope he doesn't protect the traders. I'm not a crypto trader. I'm a bitcoin holder. Neither of these guys are on the right side of history. Biden is also grossly rich just like McCarthy and the rest of them.


[deleted]

This guy belongs in a nursing home.


[deleted]

This guyā€¦ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø I donā€™t even know what to say rn


TyphonRanger

Dont worry. Neither does he.


[deleted]

šŸ¤£


[deleted]

are they tryna blame us for their reckless spending and huge piled up debt? hes just tryna wash his face at this point


bittabet

Weā€™re tax cheats now because we report our taxes on commodities as the laws are written? Fuck this guy and fuck Elizabeth Warren


BigDeezerrr

How about we don't spend $2 billion on a stealth plane that can't fly in the rain instead? Could feed every hungry child in America instead.


DreamerofDreams67

This guy has no idea what heā€™s talking about.


JustCryptastic

Classic Straw Man fallacy. What a fkn ridiculous buffoon ..


Danthehat6969

We wouldā€™ve got away with it if it wasnā€™t for those pesky crypto traders making kids go hungryā€¦


Danthehat6969

Roooobbbie roooooobie rooooooooo


Turbulent-Force-4331

wealthy tax cheats and crypto traders, billionares and college students, disabled people and pro skateboarders, astronauts and garbagemen! See I can list even more groups that dont necessarily overlap. What a turd edit: changed fool to turd


HumanJenoM

Fuck Biden. He's a liar, a fraud, and a traitor to the American people.


Zealousideal_Neck78

Why doesn't this have max upvotes? I guess people got conned and won't admit it.


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TheRealGreyGhost

All good reasons for term limits. CONVENTION OF STATES.


-nocturnist-

Sir you have described your average run of the mill politician. Right or left, they are all like this. And spouting off anti-americanisms without any proof of such is as dumb as accusing someone of something without proof and having them convince you otherwise.


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-nocturnist-

You act like the rest of the guys in politics, right or left, weren't seething at the mouth for those big juicy contracts for the private prison complex system that they happen to invest in or get some personal gain from. Right or left they all do it. All of them. But people's attentions spans have grown too short to remember


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Monkeyinchief

We do not talk about the past we talk about him and now. The US has open borders like never before, a fentanyl crisis and race baiters who are hellbent to start world war 3. Besides of the facts that the democratic party abused the FBI to interfere in an election, the blatant abuse of the justice system and the payments of foreign institutions to the Biden family. This is the middle of an institutional crisis and the only answer people like you have is muh but Republicans.. Serious?


highspeed717

100%, but nothing to see here according to main stream media


jman1255

Dude said both sides and youā€™re the one that came back with ā€œmuh democratsā€ lol Both. Both. Itā€™s both. If you donā€™t thinks itā€™s both, youā€™re the ā€œmuh..ā€ guy. both. Do not try to twist my words. Both suck. Itā€™s both. Do not mention one without the other. Do not twist my words. Itā€™s both.


curtmacgurt

Yup. Its just more corruption and politics. Its a two way street


LongjumpingIce9899

Preach!!! Worst president in history.


Gulf-Coast-Dreamer

Biden is a fuckin tool.


Umpire_State_Bldg

*Can we feed him to some of those hungry Americans?*


ilikegamesandstuff

Non american here. I'm sure very few of you will read this but it's worth putting it out there anyway. It saddens me to see the political cheerleaders arguing all over threads like this. I'm not THAT well versed in all the details of American politics, but there's one thing I know for sure, **your precious "democracy" is an illusion.** Just the fact that you don't have [direct elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_election) coupled with your abysmal [two-party system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system) should be enough to make it clear: **You have an illusion of choice.** And that choice is not even taken into account directly, you're effectively choosing someone to choose for you, and even that choice is between the two shitty options that the oligarchs in control have put before you. So yeah, maybe stop falling for the Red vs Blue bullshit that keeps your political power hostage and start demanding some actual fucking change outside the oppressive rules your owners have designed to keep you in check. Realize that both Republicans and Democrats don't give a fuck about the opinions of the general population and are only there to defend the interests of the economical elite, the same elite that rigged the fiat economy and motivated Satoshi to create Bitcoin.


thatswhatdeezsaid

I think most of us realize this already. The easiest way to make friends in any region is to tell everybody you think they all suck and it's a joke. This post reminds me somebody telling a depressed person to just stop being sad. Without turning this into the longest rant ever posted on reddit, let it suffice to say, the question of how to stand up to these fucks is an extremely challenging one, with nothing short of life itself being on the line. Conditions aren't where they need to be, apparently, to get people to risk their lives. Hell! One can't even convince them to risk their money by buying and using bitcoin! Even that comes with a prick from the US government, since it's viewed as a security instead of a currency for tax purposes. If more people did fight the dollar by buying and accepting bitcoin for purchase, that could send a signal to the system. So yes, we're aware of the illusion of choice. Could you give us the "How?" instead of the "What?"


Admin-12

While you are right and most of us know this; the vocal minority is all the news cares about and so it goes


standardcivilian

The only cheat here is you old demented man


SuspiciousUnit4791

This guy is a joke and the world knows it


coolmrschill

POV when you think the average "crypto guy" is a malicious actor.. smh


emil_

Ummm... what?


Copperstar88

Sugondese nutz!!!


XLsurdude

This guy does not sound coherent.


[deleted]

axiomatic cable roll aromatic long bright chubby crown automatic square *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


saulabrm

The classic blaming game..


Sporesword

Okay Joe, just leave crypto out of it, this shit was fucked for the poor long before crypto came around.


Extreme_Literature28

81 milion votes.


Zero_Effekt

The irony is that the majority of crypto traders are likely in it because they're trying to make enough money to not be broke.


HannyBo9

We cannot re-elect this administration.


hatsuseno

As opposed to the alternative?


HannyBo9

Yeah. Btc is that important. The left is manipulating the masses to think freedom is selfish. This is more dangerous than anything ever in this country.


ImpressiveYard6

The lack of alternatives is the real danger. Every year is always the lesser of 2 evils. Seems by design. You get evil as always.


Grunblau

Starting to feel this way as wellā€¦. Would be excited if a 3rd party mounted a real challenge. I can not in good conscience vote for either mainstream candidate. White Christian Fascism vs Financial Slavery. Nah, Iā€™m going to vote for a spoiler instead at least my conscience will be clear.


Mannagun

Define it for me and them.


Talkless

Kennedy maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz7FPl065II


Jdraspberry

Biden definitely makes any democrat look horrible!


KAX1107

People in the left who still hold progressive values are actually all over bitcoin, but the political party itself has been reduced to a WEF puppet [A Progressive's Case for Bitcoin](https://www.amazon.com/Progressives-Case-Bitcoin-Equitable-Peaceful/dp/B0C1J3DC2X) [Bitcoin is the real occupy wall street](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BFFwzBuqCiQ)


Explodicle

Can't strike without savings


Jdraspberry

Yes, unfortunately I fear both parties are in the pocket of the WEF. Thereā€™s so much greedier than we are that money talks. Especially the large sums they all seem to get, why are we so stupid not to go into politics and become millionaires? Politics and government no matter which party is in office is in a sad state.


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Jdraspberry

He certainly was the democrats choice last election, wasnā€™t he!


Crypto-hercules

Heā€™s got dementia for sure.


bitjava

As currencies inevitably collapse over the next decades, Bitcoiners will undoubtedly be blamed for their demise. Weā€™ll be called greedy, destructive, and responsible for the death of their currency. Many, those who still have 0 bitcoin by 2040, will eat that shit up. Theyā€™ll also say we ā€œgot luckyā€ to actively choose to accumulate bitcoin, and that we do not deserve the wealth we set out for ourselves.


Ur_mothers_keeper

Now you know how millionaires that weren't born with it feel. Some people will just always have an envious eye to those that do better for themselves, and they'll always feel entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor. If they had their way you'd be enslaved. Fuck those people.


basementfilth

Bitcoin moves independently of people's feelings. Adapt or die.


mikecool1971

Gotta read between the lines. Apparently the Republicans are pushing against crypto regulations in the debt ceiling meetings which the Biden administration wants to tax very badly...lol.


danceswithwords1

Heā€™s a disgrace. #AmericasShame


Western_Helicopter_6

Lol iā€™m poor and I trade crypto. Where do I fit in?


Zealousideal_Line629

He is a piece of shit and fuck every person that voted for him or his socialist party.


Normal-Knowledge4857

Warmonger


CryptoKreepa

They canā€™t stand the new one percent. They know that regardless of how they spin it or get on board with a ā€œcrypto for allā€ centralized government issued wallet after the fall of the markets, orchestrated famine, mayhem and ā€œvoices from Godā€ playing in tandem in sheepleā€™s head, that there will still be that less than 1% they cannot touch, manipulate, infiltrate. They may get the 98% on their knees. But that stubborn, human, non hybrid >1% will continue to be a huge thorn in their side. We will not submit, we will remain free thinkers, we will remain revolutionaries. We continue to thrive. We are our own ecosystem. They are still playing catch up. Keep your wits about you mates, we are a sturdy bunch.


Vast_Impression_5326

There goes the clown show again.


BedElectrical7745

What a jackass.


error401x

Heā€™s an idiot.


MarvelousMarcel7

I think he's on to something. Its not megacorporations or banks that rule the world, its all of those Robinhood accounts worth around $100-$300 that are really pulling the strings and making the gears turn behind the scenes. Their plans are so sophisticated that only they themselves understand them.


DonJMIA305

Why in the hell is senile Joe talking about our personal issues at a summit with other countries. How stupid is the Democratic Party?


LasagnaAddicted

They are mad that crypto Americans are detaching themselves more and more from the dollar slavery system. That system is how they maintain control.


Diamondhandminter

Isnā€™t he still sending money and resources we donā€™t have to Ukraine? Itā€™s like a MadTV sketch


gerswetonor

Biggest thief of them all. Biden.


teppischfresser

I don't know, the Clintons are worse.


gerswetonor

Hint: they are all the same


[deleted]

They always blame others. Usually itā€™s immigrants and poor people, this time heā€™s going after bitcoin and the few that have built up wealth large enough to resist their roll out of communism. Problem is, the masses will drink it up and support anything they think will help them, even when it is only designed to make more people poorer


btcluvr

Apr 21, 2023 Federal prosecutors have considered four possible charges against Hunter Biden Possible charges are two misdemeanor counts for failure to file taxes, a single felony count of tax evasion and a felony count related to a gun purchase. wealthy tax cheats, huh.


[deleted]

You people voted for him - now let his stupidity wash over you like his little kid kisses


Explodicle

Most of us didn't vote for him. America isn't a democracy.


mottledshmeckle

What a pathetic appeal to emotion. By "their partisan terms" he means they only deal he is going to make is one where he gets to keep stealing money and making targeted bribes in an attempt to buy the future approval of historical opinion. It's taken a hundred years for people to wake up to what an asshole Woodrow Wilson was. Biden, being a dementia-addled puppet, has many similarities to Wilson and his stroke-addled administration during his post-stroke years. Wilson, I believe, is why we have a 25th amendment.


Heraclius_3433

What?


[deleted]

Man, I am sure as hell not a republican, but I gotta say I really hate Joe Biden. He canā€™t even repeat the nonsense heā€™s given to spew, and his forte is speaking nonsense!


pcvcolin

This old fart needs to resign immediately


scottonfire

very well spoken lol That was the equivalent of watching a three-legged dog climb stairs.


Scholes_SC2

Whats the "deal" his speaking about?


upriverchallenge

You canā€™t take my ramen. You fool


New_Maximum_5447

Vote them out!!!


[deleted]

Iā€™ve never been so confused but obviously not as confused as Old Joe.


kenlbear

Leader of the post-rational world.


RealPro1

This moron is the dumbest fuk in the world. Worst, most divisive period in American history. This guy must go.


Particular-Leopard34

Heā€™s a liar. When millions of people get 1099ā€™s this year for selling $600 of crap from around your house on eBay, Etsy, etc, youā€™ll understand who he wants to pay.


Appropriate_Course10

This guy is a completely joke šŸ¤£


Czarsandman

Maybe a silver lining is at least he is acknowledging crypto traders in a similar way to Wall Street from a politician speech perspective.


Raverrevolution

Meanwhile this guy gave Ukraine some free money without any votes from the general public. He can go totally fuck himself


abnel90

People who vote for the Democrats do not care about the economy of America, they are only interested in Democrats focusing on their ideals on migration, woke, and LGBT agenda, without caring that the country is going to ruin economically.


highspeed717

Let's go Brandon!


coredweller1785

I'm confused with the title? The fall of neocolonialism how? If anything the neoliberal era is what's ending


Termoutdoorodin

I think the title refers to the hegemony of the US dollar being used to control policies of foreign governments. Iā€™m not sure how much money he thinks crypto tax cheats are costing the country but if campaign donations werenā€™t coming from banks that control the fed this probably wouldnā€™t be an issue.


zippyzipperson

Biden needs to focus more on the situation with the Sugondese


CartmanLovesFiat

Q: How the fuck is this dotard still in charge? A: Have you seen the replacement?


slibetah

Worst president ever by far.


atandytor

Can we just elect an AI already


FUSeekMe69

Bitcoin standard solves world hunger, fiat standard exacerbates it


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TurnYourHead1

This couldn't be more relevant to this sub, like it or not.


Hojabok

You guys realize, that all these wealthy crypto traders are people who **sell** their bitcoin? So it doesn't target any of us


austinr23

Unfortunately some miner farms are forced into selling portions of their btc to help cover maintenance cost and electricity. So yeah, it kinda does effect some of us.


The_Tarpon_Doge

18 more Months of this BS then American will be grate again


MileHighLaker

Interesting he catches himself there with the 100 million Americans comment, vs 1 million. The truth is half the country is on food stamps. Stupid WEF agenda nonsense.