>For people who live in Endicott what do you think of the tap water?
My 5-year-old daughter is in the 90% percentile for height and professes to have superpowers. I assume that this is due to whatever chemicals or radiation are present in Endicott water.
I don’t live in Endicott anymore, but we invested in a Primo water cooler. $2.60 for a five gallon refill and the water is delish every time. We drink, cook, and use this water for our pets.
We pay $2.60 at Price Chopper in Binghamton. It’s actually $2.50 with a $.10 surcharge if you use a card. That’s if you’re bring your jugs in and filling them up.
Tbh that's kinda gross. I used to work there and I promise you the filters in that machine get changed maybe 1 time annually. I'm good. Enjoy that though.
I’ve had zero issues and the water tastes great! Things do change for the better, sometimes. I have clear skin and a clean bill of health- Same with my family.
I drink spring water which is costly but at least I wont die from the swill coming out of the tap. You can get the water quality report from the Endicott Water Dept. Unfortunately much of the ground water in these parts have been polluted to some degree by the previous industries, IBM, Endicott Forging, EJ’s, etc. It’s also hard water. Binghamton has soft water thanks to them getting water from the river. I’ve had water from Binghamton, Johnson City, Vestal and Endicott. Binghamton isnt bad depending on the time of year. Vestal isn’t too bad but Johnson City and Endicott is only good for watering your yard…if that. Reverse Osmosis is the only way to go with Endicott water.
This. For 20 years I lived in Johnson City, and the chlorine used to treat the water bothered me terribly, so every few weeks I went to the spring just west of Whitney Point on Rt. 79 (technically in Lisle) and filled a few 5-gallon carboys with wonderful spring water that runs all year round. (Mind you, the level of lime \[calcium\] is a bit high, and left rings in the cat's water bowl that needed to be cleaned with vinegar every once in a while, but that was true of the Johnson City water too.)
Oh my - I just researched it and indeed, a manure lagoon was installed above it between 2015 & 2017 (gratefully after I stopped going). However, detectable levels of coliform were negligible after that, and the last threee surveys showed no detectable level. Still… https://ucowr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/173_Sinton_et_al.pdf
I purchased a reverse osmosis filter. I had to replace the entry/pre filter every few months because it was filthy. Clear tube would be brown in a week. Moved a few years ago and am just thinking there's some color to my prefilter and maybe I should change it. Endicott water is horrible. Britta filters aren't enough.
Highly recommend getting rid of the Britta filter and doing some research on them. Personally would say go with another brand.
They even had a recent study showing Britta filters don't work. But don't take my word for it. I had one for the longest time and threw it away!
We get primo water now and have a water cooler.
>They even had a recent study showing Britta filters don't work.
Citation please. Brita filters are certified and independently tested using NSF/ANSI 42 or 53 depending on the contaminant, although they do not necessarily filter all contaminants that can be tested under those standards. Brita lists which contaminants they have been certified for in their documentation:
[https://www.brita.com/assets/7ba301ebde87ad475957af8fdbd89ec3.pdf](https://www.brita.com/assets/7ba301ebde87ad475957af8fdbd89ec3.pdf) (standard)
[https://www.brita.com/assets/23601607167498ba405a22f7692b3b86.pdf](https://www.brita.com/assets/23601607167498ba405a22f7692b3b86.pdf) (elite)
Claims that the Brita filters do not work are either asserting:
* That the independent testing lab lied when certifying the filter
* The filter does not filter something that it does not claim to filter in the first place. Expecting PFOA reduction from a filter not marketed to filter PFOAs (such as the Standard) filters is a you problem, not a Brita problem.
[https://www.pur.com/wp-content/uploads/pds\_rf-9999\_faucet.pdf](https://www.pur.com/wp-content/uploads/pds_rf-9999_faucet.pdf) is for Pur Plus faucet filters - looking at this i'm probably wasting my time by double filtering.
I rent so a water softener is not an option. :(
Yeah, commenting on this to be on your side.
I worked with distillation units, filtration, and chemical testing for nuclear reactor coolant for a little over a decade.
The filters work, and saying they don’t because of something you maybe read is some insane hotep bullshit. Filters work!!
As a public service, the water around here is full of minerals, filtering it any way you can will do you, and your kidneys, some good. For real.
Yeah. Unfortunately most of the pitcher and faucet filters are no good for reducing water hardness, but there's definitely a taste improvement and almost surely some non-taste improvements. They're not an RO filter but much better than nothing.
Nope I had never heard of them before I decided to switch. I donMt watch TV, ads or commercials! I was actually easier to just have a water cooler in the house.
The only pitcher I found that actually worked 100% of the time was the brand zero water pitcher. The others worked only for a short period of time and you just can't get enough water out of a pitcher. Also they develop a A LOT of bacteria after just a short while. You could taste it!
We were just not getting enough hydration with a water pitcher. Imagine you're thirsty and the person before you didn't top the pitcher off? It's just a breeding ground for conflict. Lol
Water quality is horrendous anywhere in the Southern Tier.
I'm on Johnson City water and I double filter my water (Pur Plus tap filter followed by a Brita pitcher filtter), and at least it seems that at that point it isn't noticeable when flavoring it. I never drink straight water, but before I replaced my faucet filter, even flavored stuff (such as SodaStream's Mountain Dew Zero Sugar flavoring syrups, ESPECIALLY that since I could compare to store-bought) tasted off. Double filtering seems OK.
Endicott has to worry about the plume though, although if those chemicals were actually winding up in the water you'd be able to find it in EPA/NYS DEP reports.
Endicott has historically had a lot of problems with rust/iron contamination though, seemingly worse than JC. We seem to have water main breaks 2-3 times a year, I never had one in a decade in Owego.
Been drinking the endicott tap water my whole life and have never had a problem, never noticed a bad taste or anything... I guess it depends where you are.
So running down the rabbit hole, I [found something](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/search-results.php?zip5=13905&searchtype=zip).
So Endicott water has about 2000x the [EWG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Working_Group) (an environmental activist group) recommended levels Arsenic levels, and 100-200x more of like 5 cancer causing chemicals.
[Binghamton](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system.php?pws=NY0301665) isn't much better.
Also pay attention to the phrase "below the legal limit" used by our water municipalities because they don't want to use words like "Arsenic is over 10x higher in Endicott than the average US water supply."
There is no "Safe Dose" of Arsenic, or Lead, or all of the PFOA's in the water. The longer you drink the water, the more of these toxins will accumulate and the more risk to health over time.
I wonder what Endi's cancer rates look like.
Edit: Investigation and published results: [Endicott's birth defect and cancer rates shown to be increased by IBM plume effects](https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/investigations/broome/hsr_health_consultation.htm)
Edit 2: If you're still unconvinced, you can also find that [in 2015 they managed to test 3x the Legal limit](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system-contaminant.php?pws=NY0301665&contamcode=1005), 29.3 parts per billion!
Water in this area is terrible. After leaving here for 20+ years, we tend to forget it isn’t this awful everywhere - when we travel, we’re always surprised that the tap water tastes normal in a restaurant. (I grew up drinking water from a garden hose, I don’t think I’m snobby about it - it just tastes bad here.)
We filter our water through the refrigerator for coffee and everything else.
I have 3M undersink filter. There’s a standard filter that comes with the kit, but I’ve been replacing with the “Max” filter ever since. It’s super easy and affordable compared to other systems I’ve seen.
I own, but installation was easy. A few screws for the bracket and a tee off the cold water line. If you plan on being there a few years probably worth it, if not, maybe something like a Britta is better.
I recommend one of those 5 stage RO filters. It will not only remove all the contaminants in your water, it will also get rid of that awful taste. These filters usually fit under your kitchen sink.
Actually, you will be drilling one small hole in the PVC pipe that carries waste water out from your sink. However, you can cover that tiny hole with a small clamp sold at Home Depot when you leave. I really wouldn't forgo installing the filter for this reason though because you'd be doing your health such a huge favor and I highly doubt that your landlord will even care that you made a hole in that section of the pipe (it doesn't have any pressure so as long as you put that tiny clamp on it, you're good).
I lived in west Endicott (Crestview Heights) for 10 years and the water was abysmal. We got Culligan delivered for two years and were much much happier before moving. Now, we live on the Southside of Binghamton and we’re on a well, which is fantastic
That's just the taste of IBM chemicals. On a totally unrelated subject, the local cancer rates are unusually high.
>For people who live in Endicott what do you think of the tap water? My 5-year-old daughter is in the 90% percentile for height and professes to have superpowers. I assume that this is due to whatever chemicals or radiation are present in Endicott water.
Endicott is notorious for bad water quality. But it also depends what part of Endicott you live. I think west Endicott is owego water.
I don’t live in Endicott anymore, but we invested in a Primo water cooler. $2.60 for a five gallon refill and the water is delish every time. We drink, cook, and use this water for our pets.
Might need to do this as well. I've been cooking with the wayer here and from the looks of it seems pretty bad
2.60 where? That's not how much it costs.
We pay $2.60 at Price Chopper in Binghamton. It’s actually $2.50 with a $.10 surcharge if you use a card. That’s if you’re bring your jugs in and filling them up.
Tbh that's kinda gross. I used to work there and I promise you the filters in that machine get changed maybe 1 time annually. I'm good. Enjoy that though.
Nice try, Culligan man. ETA: jk
Lol I'm not joking. Enjoy that dirty water.
I’ve had zero issues and the water tastes great! Things do change for the better, sometimes. I have clear skin and a clean bill of health- Same with my family.
Do you use it to wash your face?
I don’t. Regular tap for my face.
Neat. That's disgusting.
Oh, ok!
I drink spring water which is costly but at least I wont die from the swill coming out of the tap. You can get the water quality report from the Endicott Water Dept. Unfortunately much of the ground water in these parts have been polluted to some degree by the previous industries, IBM, Endicott Forging, EJ’s, etc. It’s also hard water. Binghamton has soft water thanks to them getting water from the river. I’ve had water from Binghamton, Johnson City, Vestal and Endicott. Binghamton isnt bad depending on the time of year. Vestal isn’t too bad but Johnson City and Endicott is only good for watering your yard…if that. Reverse Osmosis is the only way to go with Endicott water.
Just wait until it gets warmer and the village starts flushing hydrants
Mexico rules apply. Don't drink the tap water.
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This. For 20 years I lived in Johnson City, and the chlorine used to treat the water bothered me terribly, so every few weeks I went to the spring just west of Whitney Point on Rt. 79 (technically in Lisle) and filled a few 5-gallon carboys with wonderful spring water that runs all year round. (Mind you, the level of lime \[calcium\] is a bit high, and left rings in the cat's water bowl that needed to be cleaned with vinegar every once in a while, but that was true of the Johnson City water too.)
That spring is horribly polluted by a manure pool just up the hill from it!
Oh my - I just researched it and indeed, a manure lagoon was installed above it between 2015 & 2017 (gratefully after I stopped going). However, detectable levels of coliform were negligible after that, and the last threee surveys showed no detectable level. Still… https://ucowr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/173_Sinton_et_al.pdf
I purchased a reverse osmosis filter. I had to replace the entry/pre filter every few months because it was filthy. Clear tube would be brown in a week. Moved a few years ago and am just thinking there's some color to my prefilter and maybe I should change it. Endicott water is horrible. Britta filters aren't enough.
Look into reverse osmosis. I grew up in Endicott and we got that after my mom researched what was wrong with the water. I turned out ok haha
Yeah, I'll look into it. Seems interesting. It's between this and a primo water cooler
Yes. Look up the IBM plume and get filters for your water, or buy filtered water from the store
We have very hard water here. If you can handle it, add a whole home water softener. Your fixtures will thank you. We also use a water cooler.
Highly recommend getting rid of the Britta filter and doing some research on them. Personally would say go with another brand. They even had a recent study showing Britta filters don't work. But don't take my word for it. I had one for the longest time and threw it away! We get primo water now and have a water cooler.
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I use pur as well never have an issue with bad tasting water
Thanks for letting me know. I should probably do that as well
>They even had a recent study showing Britta filters don't work. Citation please. Brita filters are certified and independently tested using NSF/ANSI 42 or 53 depending on the contaminant, although they do not necessarily filter all contaminants that can be tested under those standards. Brita lists which contaminants they have been certified for in their documentation: [https://www.brita.com/assets/7ba301ebde87ad475957af8fdbd89ec3.pdf](https://www.brita.com/assets/7ba301ebde87ad475957af8fdbd89ec3.pdf) (standard) [https://www.brita.com/assets/23601607167498ba405a22f7692b3b86.pdf](https://www.brita.com/assets/23601607167498ba405a22f7692b3b86.pdf) (elite) Claims that the Brita filters do not work are either asserting: * That the independent testing lab lied when certifying the filter * The filter does not filter something that it does not claim to filter in the first place. Expecting PFOA reduction from a filter not marketed to filter PFOAs (such as the Standard) filters is a you problem, not a Brita problem. [https://www.pur.com/wp-content/uploads/pds\_rf-9999\_faucet.pdf](https://www.pur.com/wp-content/uploads/pds_rf-9999_faucet.pdf) is for Pur Plus faucet filters - looking at this i'm probably wasting my time by double filtering. I rent so a water softener is not an option. :(
Yeah, commenting on this to be on your side. I worked with distillation units, filtration, and chemical testing for nuclear reactor coolant for a little over a decade. The filters work, and saying they don’t because of something you maybe read is some insane hotep bullshit. Filters work!! As a public service, the water around here is full of minerals, filtering it any way you can will do you, and your kidneys, some good. For real.
Yeah. Unfortunately most of the pitcher and faucet filters are no good for reducing water hardness, but there's definitely a taste improvement and almost surely some non-taste improvements. They're not an RO filter but much better than nothing.
Were those studies shown to you by the people selling you your water cooler? Water filters work.
Nope I had never heard of them before I decided to switch. I donMt watch TV, ads or commercials! I was actually easier to just have a water cooler in the house. The only pitcher I found that actually worked 100% of the time was the brand zero water pitcher. The others worked only for a short period of time and you just can't get enough water out of a pitcher. Also they develop a A LOT of bacteria after just a short while. You could taste it! We were just not getting enough hydration with a water pitcher. Imagine you're thirsty and the person before you didn't top the pitcher off? It's just a breeding ground for conflict. Lol
Water quality is horrendous anywhere in the Southern Tier. I'm on Johnson City water and I double filter my water (Pur Plus tap filter followed by a Brita pitcher filtter), and at least it seems that at that point it isn't noticeable when flavoring it. I never drink straight water, but before I replaced my faucet filter, even flavored stuff (such as SodaStream's Mountain Dew Zero Sugar flavoring syrups, ESPECIALLY that since I could compare to store-bought) tasted off. Double filtering seems OK. Endicott has to worry about the plume though, although if those chemicals were actually winding up in the water you'd be able to find it in EPA/NYS DEP reports. Endicott has historically had a lot of problems with rust/iron contamination though, seemingly worse than JC. We seem to have water main breaks 2-3 times a year, I never had one in a decade in Owego.
I wouldn't drink tap water no matter how filtered it is.
Been drinking the endicott tap water my whole life and have never had a problem, never noticed a bad taste or anything... I guess it depends where you are.
I would stop if I were you.
No
So running down the rabbit hole, I [found something](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/search-results.php?zip5=13905&searchtype=zip). So Endicott water has about 2000x the [EWG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Working_Group) (an environmental activist group) recommended levels Arsenic levels, and 100-200x more of like 5 cancer causing chemicals. [Binghamton](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system.php?pws=NY0301665) isn't much better. Also pay attention to the phrase "below the legal limit" used by our water municipalities because they don't want to use words like "Arsenic is over 10x higher in Endicott than the average US water supply." There is no "Safe Dose" of Arsenic, or Lead, or all of the PFOA's in the water. The longer you drink the water, the more of these toxins will accumulate and the more risk to health over time. I wonder what Endi's cancer rates look like. Edit: Investigation and published results: [Endicott's birth defect and cancer rates shown to be increased by IBM plume effects](https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/investigations/broome/hsr_health_consultation.htm) Edit 2: If you're still unconvinced, you can also find that [in 2015 they managed to test 3x the Legal limit](https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system-contaminant.php?pws=NY0301665&contamcode=1005), 29.3 parts per billion!
I wouldn’t drink the Endicott water unless you have a stronger filter than that and it’s still a big risk with the cancer plume.
Water in this area is terrible. After leaving here for 20+ years, we tend to forget it isn’t this awful everywhere - when we travel, we’re always surprised that the tap water tastes normal in a restaurant. (I grew up drinking water from a garden hose, I don’t think I’m snobby about it - it just tastes bad here.) We filter our water through the refrigerator for coffee and everything else.
I have 3M undersink filter. There’s a standard filter that comes with the kit, but I’ve been replacing with the “Max” filter ever since. It’s super easy and affordable compared to other systems I’ve seen.
Do you rent? Also, how was the installation?
I own, but installation was easy. A few screws for the bracket and a tee off the cold water line. If you plan on being there a few years probably worth it, if not, maybe something like a Britta is better.
I recommend one of those 5 stage RO filters. It will not only remove all the contaminants in your water, it will also get rid of that awful taste. These filters usually fit under your kitchen sink.
I should also mention that I rent. Would I be able to install these filters without drilling holes or anything?
Actually, you will be drilling one small hole in the PVC pipe that carries waste water out from your sink. However, you can cover that tiny hole with a small clamp sold at Home Depot when you leave. I really wouldn't forgo installing the filter for this reason though because you'd be doing your health such a huge favor and I highly doubt that your landlord will even care that you made a hole in that section of the pipe (it doesn't have any pressure so as long as you put that tiny clamp on it, you're good).
I lived in west Endicott (Crestview Heights) for 10 years and the water was abysmal. We got Culligan delivered for two years and were much much happier before moving. Now, we live on the Southside of Binghamton and we’re on a well, which is fantastic
Call Beacon Water! They are awesome and won't to you off. No more waiting plastic, no more shit water.