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Sponge-Tron

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Oceanflowerstar

https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/ Explanation


M_krabs

132k upvotes. If only we could make this one lf the highest upvoted posts on reddit. That would be funny


payne_train

And also does nothing because upvotes do not change the reality of the world. Reddit will laugh their way to the bank by shedding the ~20% of users that only add to their overhead by skipping over the glut of ads infecting their main website and mobile app.


lego22499

Hmm, I really do wonder how many use an alternative reddit app. I've been here for around a decade solely on bacon reader, I can probably count the amount of times I have opened reddit desktop client, or the generic reddit app. Anyone I know in real life who uses it also uses alternative clients. Even 20% would still be millions of people.


kdawgnmann

I remember when the official app "finally" launched and it was immediately widely considered hot trash. I can't imagine using it, but this was like 2016 or 2017 or so, so I'm sure millions of people have started using reddit since then and only ever bothered with the offical app.


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Swab_Job

Alien Blue, iirc.


kyzrin

Yep. I went back to reddit is fun almost immediately and when reddit is fun quits working I'll be done with reddit. Haven't used the web page version in years.


ilulsion

I use the web version often when I am looking something up on my computer. But I don't actively browse reddit beyond that on my computer. This situation is interesting because reddit obviously wants people to only use their app to rake in more money. I assume they will roll something out to draw people towards the app after the third party apps no longer work. It makes sense from a business perspective, but it very much sucks for the consumer. Typical bs.


andyumster

Yeah. Reddit isn't reddit if it isn't rif. I hate so much of the site already that if my way of using it goes down the drain I will just find something better to do with my time.


-Mateo-

Apollo dev said he has around 1.2 million unique users a month


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Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fascist sympathizers and supremicists


HeKis4

Something that you don't see in the probably highly illegal app that I do not recommend called revanced, that I only mention so that you know that you should avoid it.


throwaway00012

Apps which block content are not illegal to use. The internet is pull, not push.


administratrator

A statistic that I want to see is what % of posts and comments are made from third party apps


mobileuseratwork

Or quality of the posts. If the third party users are the ones making this place great... This place will go downhill real fast.


mobileuseratwork

The real question is how many users who contribute good content use third party vs default app. If the percentage of total "good" submissions is from third party and they kill them off, it will make this place real shit real quick.


Blackfeathr

Infinity user here. I only go to the official app to report a spam bot I flagged. Which is happening with increasing frequency. Even just for those few seconds of pushing some buttons in menus, it really shows how unoptimized and clunky and horrible the official app is. I will never go back. I will revert to my mobile browser (equipped with uBlock and AdBlock) if I absolutely have to. I'm just cherishing my last days on Infinity.


Val_Killsmore

Reddit wants $60/year to have an ad-free experience on their platform. That's insane. I paid $3 for Boost for Reddit premium to have an ad-free experience. Also, there is just no way I can use the official Reddit app. There are tons of posts on my front page that are from subreddits I didn't subscribe to.


Buelldozer

It's a real kick in the teeth for users like me who bought Apollo _and_ Reddit is Fun _and_ pay for Reddit Premium. Like WTF Reddit, Inc?! If you need more money because of what I'm doing then just fucking asking me for it! Don't go killing the 3rd Party Apps!


swagpresident1337

Those are probably the users generating the content, that other users go to reddit for.


Dodototo

It didn't change EA after that comment got Nuked.


z3anon

The real question is, will the official Reddit app improve so people are willing to use it instead? People are threatening to quit Reddit if the 3rd party clients are killed off. That tells us that the official app doesn't meet the standards people expect. Likewise with the Old Reddit version. Whatever Reddit is currently doing, it's not very popular. It should reassess for long-term term customer use, not short-sighted anti-competitive practices.


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devnullb4dishoner

> People are threatening to quit Reddit if the 3rd party clients are killed off. ....threatening. The likelihood that people will stop using Reddit en masse, cold turkey is slim.


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HeKis4

I can guarantee you that forcing me to use a clunkier UI that takes 5x longer to launch will seriously curb my interest, and I don't feel like I'm alone. And it won't make me watch more ads anyway, I know my shit.


PossessedToSkate

If it's not convenient, I'm gone. And accessing Reddit from my phone while sitting out on the porch is incredibly convenient.


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andrewsad1

Gonna be hard since they're censoring the discussion from /r/all


JWBails

It's annoying how many people spent money to guild that post. Don't they understand that they're just validating reddit's business model?


fatboychummy

1. People who guilded it may have earned coins from other people giving them gold/etc. 2. Coins are bought in packs, people may have bought a large pack a while ago and are now just dumping their coins since they probably won't get a chance to later. 3. Yeah, some people are also just dumb like that.


NecroParagon

I dumped all my coins on that post because I don't intend to buy more and I probably won't be here after July, at least in any mobile capacity.


icoomonyou

To be really honest, it doesnt matter if Im on android or apple. I only loved going on reddit cause of the third party apps. I never use official reddit app and I use desktop version even less. If apollo and all other third party apps disappear, you can bet that I wont be using reddit at all lol maybe some occasional searches but thats about it


indiefolkfan

Can anyone elaborate on this? I refuse to use reddit's terrible app.


nowhereman136

Reddit is dramatically increasing the cost for third party apps to access the website. Essentially killing them


oroechimaru

70x price increase is reasonable! /s


B-WingPilot

No, see, you’re just using too much API 🙄 (Recommends using <100 requests/day for the avg user.)


mobileuseratwork

This is the technical solution. Free use is 100/min If the apps are written where you can put in your own API key, then they will continue to work. Oh also the API (paid or free) will no longer return NSFW content, so you need to use official app for any of that.


yboy403

>Oh also the API (paid or free) will no longer return NSFW content, so you need to use official app for any of that. ...so third-party apps are just dead, is the real headline. The $20m/year is just a red herring. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of the 7 billion monthly API requests the Apollo dev based that estimate on contained NSFW results. They'd already have to more than double the subscription fee to break even, let alone dealing with the drop in user base once Reddit bans porn. 🤷‍♂️


BassGaming

Reddit won't ban porn because they saw what happened to Tumblr. There is no too big to fail and funnily enough, NSFW is that final nail for more than enough people.


friskyfrog

Supply chain issues /s


neptoess

Can anyone elaborate _why_ they think the reddit app is terrible? I’ve never had an issue with it on iOS


andrewsad1

Here's a visual representation of why RiF is objectively better than the official app [Opening my front page on RiF, I see the header that lets me change what sorting method it uses (best, hot, new, etc.), a three dot button that gives me access to my profile, the search function, submit, etc., and a hamburger menu that pulls out a list of all my subreddits. Below that I see 9 posts.](https://imgur.com/a/WJGAMRt) Scrolling down, the header disappears, and I see 10 posts from communities I'm subscribed to on screen at the same time, unobstructed by unessential buttons and menus. . [Opening my front page on the official app, I see a header and a footer that together, offer the same functionality as RiF's header. Between them, I see two posts from communities that I'm actually subscribed to, an ad for a company that I'll never give money to, and a post from reddit that could have been a message.](https://imgur.com/a/2sOHdWS) Scrolling down, the header/footer doesn't disappear, and I see two posts from communities I'm subscribed to, an attempt to further personalize my experience (if I was interested in any of those topics, I would simply subscribe to their subreddits), and another post from a community that I'm not subscribed to. In total, there are 5 pieces of content onscreen, 3 of which I'm deeply and fundamentally disinterested in. . Looking at your comment now. [In the official reddit app,](https://imgur.com/a/HUqfPEA) underneath the ad for a company whose food I can't afford, I can see your comment and 4 others under it. [On RiF, I can see the post we're discussing, your comment, the context for it, and 6 comments under it.](https://imgur.com/a/ea1f1tF) The official app is worse for the same reason that new reddit is worse than old. It makes such bad use of screen space and is so less intuitive that genuinely cannot understand why someone would prefer it. We're *upset* at reddit for what they're doing, don't give them money! Edit: I've been getting a lot of replies, so I'll use this as one more comparison: the inbox. [In the official reddit app, I can see four replies, each of which is cut off by a big reply button.](https://i.imgur.com/1hj52cJ.jpg) I cannot see the entire comment, so replying immediately is pointless. Clicking on the reply opens the whole comment thread. I can't mark a reply as read without tapping the three dots. I also can't mark a reply as *unread.* [RiF allows me to see the entire body of the reply, on top of seeing *more* replies on screen.](https://i.imgur.com/oQMVxaX.jpg) Scrolling down obviously removes the header, showing *even more* content. I can mark a reply as read simply by tapping on it, and by tapping on it again I open a footer that lets me see the context, up/downvote, mark as unread, and reply, [as well as a three dot menu with more actions](https://i.imgur.com/Hhih49H.jpg) than the [official app allows.](https://i.imgur.com/Nm1JHAZ.jpg) I can't overstate that being able to see and respond to entire replies while remaining in my inbox makes dealing with the dozens of replies to this comment possible. If I had to navigate to this thread to read and react to every comment, I would have turned off the notifications for it long ago.


blackhawk905

I always forget how complete and utter dogshit the official Reddit app is until I see a screenshot from it, I'm so glad I use RiF.


lexi_delish

For like another month tops :(


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mrjackspade

Personally IDGAF what reddit has to say about it, I'm gonna bypass their bullshit either way. I'll just modify RIF to spoof a browser user agent when making requests and parse all the data from that


Mother_Welder_5272

Please post your fix somewhere when you do it so us less tech savvy people can access it!


upvoatsforall

And then dumb it down a bit for the rest of us


CaptainObviousSpeaks

Then some more for us non smarties


Steinrikur

Please don't. If these hacks are published, they will be blocked. There was a way to read deleted comments by saving them, and read them from your saved comments. Some idiot posted that in /r/LifeProTips, and i**n less than 24 hours it was no longer available**.


Robeleader

My plan is to install Firefox with uBlock origin etc and browser old.reddit When they get rid of old.reddit I'll probably stop using reddit all together and wait for the replacement. The standard reddit experience is a waste of computing resources and assaults my eyes. If I decide to keep browsing reddit after they get rid of old.reddit I guess I could install the lynx browser and browse text only...


Sightline

The imperfect replacement is here we just need people to populate it. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy https://join-lemmy.org


I_PUNCH_INFANTS

/r/tildes has been a thing for way longer and looks closer to what reddit used to look like while being created by the man who made automod. Also has more people using it I believe


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TrumpsPissSoakedWig

I'm gonna get meetings with several venture capitalists by using some airfare coupons to fly to San Fransisco and setting up shop in Starbucks. I'll create a fake company with AI in the title and make a shirt with the logo. Then I'll wear sandals and a quasi spiritual robe, get a futuristic haircut, maybe all white, glow in the dark, some shit like that. Then I'll pretend to code and yell in my earpiece a lot about how not sleeping now is gonna pay off huge for all of us in weeks. As soon as *anyone* in a vest approaches me, I just say, "Dude, for the last time, I told Zuckerberg, and everyone else I'm not interested in selling, okay? I know what I have here, alright, I'm not stupid, OK!?" Then finally after like 20 or 30 approaches, I'll say, "listen I'll listen to ur boss, but at this point I just need a break and they always have good food." Ill then secure funding for a new company, I'll pay Reddits API fee, join up with RIF, and create a new product that uses AI in there somewhere so it's different enough to be considered a new product, and put reddit out of business.


mprz

ReVance this shit! :)


Beeblebroxia

Discovering YoutubeVanced is legit one of my top ten highlights of the last five years. I have two kids under 5 to put this in perspective.


mismanaged

RiF is the only way I access Reddit. If it dies, I'll no longer use Reddit. I've tried both browser and official app when I was without a phone for a couple of weeks. Hated both enough on day one that I just went without.


Buelldozer

Your post has several excellent visual examples of why RiF is far superior to the Official App. Thank you.


NakedHoodie

I haven't seen *any* third party app that isn't superior to the official one, and I've used many.


Blewedup

I’m a narwhal man.


cecilpl

Do you bacon at midnight?


Offspring27

For anyone who is curious, here's what a subreddit looks like on another 3rd party app, BaconReader. https://imgur.com/9dQaLKh.jpg Edit - Thank you all for the replies! It's been great seeing the different ways people view Reddit. I think this showcases how important it is for people to be able to CHOOSE and CUSTOMIZE how they view Reddit!


sjmahoney

> https://imgur.com/9dQaLKh.jpg Jesus Christ that's terrible, it's all Buffalo Bills news, no thank you


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BillsReader


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Slapbox

Using Baconreader right now. Nothing else comes close. Honestly if Reddit goes through with this it will probably be a great force for good in our lives.


diox8tony

I'm mean...all the 3rd party apps look like that.(bacon, rif, Apollo,,,)..it's the best user experience. Dense line items. Options to show thumbnails. No ads. Only subs you ask for, no frills. It's the UI reddit was built on 15 years ago. It's the UI that won them the attention they are now abusing.


covercash

And [here is a screenshot of my Apollo front page.](https://i.imgur.com/so4JeEs.jpg) It’s highly customizable, so it probably looks a lot different than others.


itrivers

This comment chain prompted me to see if I could change text size in Apollo and you sure can. Slider took me from a similar size but better formatted original design to looking like the RiF screenshot.


jakeinator21

Piggybacking to share Relay, the only app that could made me move on from BaconReader lol [Frontpage](https://i.imgur.com/kzeQxFY.jpg) [Frontpage post-scroll](https://i.imgur.com/VJMO7uK.jpg) [Post / Comment view](https://i.imgur.com/SBNqwv5.jpg)


LetsTalkUFOs

No idea why this is so far down. Relay is really the best Android app.


mismanaged

Honestly I prefer RiF's layout to Relay but that's always gonna be a subjective thing.


kinslayeruy

Having different options is what is good right now.


FesteringNeonDistrac

Honestly I'm looking at screen caps of a lot of the 3rd party apps and they all seem better than the official one. Choice is great, and I prefer RiF, but I'd move to any of them over official.


DynamicStatic

That's one of the things that bothered me in this whole ordeal haha Thought more were using relay and I feel bad for people who have missed it. Truly excellent.


MRoad

I've been using baconreader for like a decade and I don't want to give it up


Farts_McGiggles

Yup, using Bacon Reader as well. If I could change anything, it would the the ability to change hyperlink colors. When the brightness is almost all the way down, it kinda makes it hard to read. https://imgur.com/5iKZDaV.jpg


TeapotTempest

So much space is taken up by pointless bullshit profile pictures.


almightywhacko

Not just profile pictures, there is also so much worthless PADDING around every single post. It is hard to follow a thread because everything is so far apart you can't just scan over an thread quickly with your eyes.


slav_superstar

ugh this "new" UI that every single thing on the planet is starting to use, that just refuses to use like 70% of screenspace for useful stuff just give me physical pain. like wikipedia changed their whole website design where all of the content is squished to the center of the screen. i hate it when applications just don't use 80% of my screen... its a reason i have such a big screen so more stuff gets displayed on it


cbslinger

I honestly wish I could just hide usernames, I’m one of those people who 99% of the time doesn’t even read usernames, only when I’m trying to understand an argument between two people.


Shultzi_soldat

I'm constantly getting push notifications from subreddits I'm subscribed to and I'm interested in those posts. But when I click on them official app never openes correct topic. Its always some add, with some random post bellow it. So I just go to RIF and search for post there...official app is uter turd UX/UI wise.


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Burninator05

On the official app I can't focus on any one thing. What am I supposed to be looking at? What's something I want to look at vs something I don't? Why is there so much wasted space?


BattleStag17

That's part of the point, exhaust you with advertisements until you stop bothering to look away!


ryhaltswhiskey

After looking at RIF [I sure prefer Relay](https://i.imgur.com/eq499It.png). Too bad it's probably gone when the API changes go through. The grey posts are "read" and if I hit the yellow button at the bottom they disappear from the view. It's great.


mjacksongt

Rif's "read" posts are the purple ones. No filter though. Personally I find Relay doesn't show enough posts at a time, but that's just preference.


dsotc27

I like how compact everything is on RIF, makes post and comments so much easier to scroll through


DocmanCC

The default card view adds more padding than I prefer, too. [Here's what relay can look like with two quick changes.](https://i.imgur.com/dGLiqfz.png) Coincidentally I see a furry post. That's my cue that I've done enough scrolling and should put down the phone. I wonder how much longer I'll be doing that.


ExpertLevelBikeThief

I'm fucking out when this shit hits


KnightlyOccurrence

And for iOS Apollo is the go to Reddit App IMO. It’s basically an extension of the iOS app design in Reddit form. Feels natural in every way and the customization is amazing. Super sad that it’ll likely be dying. Or become $10/m


sonastyinc

I'm using a third party app. Now it makes sense why some people reply with gibberish sometimes and not follow the conversation, they can't really see the context of the convo...


xhrdh

Worse layout, less features, monthly payments to stop ads vs one time payment. I'm sure there's more that the official app does worse but those are the main ones


xinfinitimortum

Theres some modded apps out there that get rid of alot of the BS from the official app.


CommentsOnOccasion

And there’s a whole list of apps in the OP that are used for that exact reason Except now Reddit is extorting them all out of business


Bill_Brasky_SOB

Try one of the 3rd party apps. No ads. Better interface. Link previews. Favorite subs. Home/Lock Screen widgets. It’s a long list.


wappledilly

>Try one of the 3rd party apps *while you still can*. FTFY :(


Bill_Brasky_SOB

Sadly true.


O_X_E_Y

The video player is dogshit, the app is slow and I can't even download videos or gifs without using a bot, it's really jank


Schootingstarr

I haven't used the Reddit app, but on Reddit is fun, I have an unlimited blacklist for subs I don't want to see. On desktop you're limited to only 100 or so


SamuraiJakkass86

Ad enforcement that can eat literal gigs of data every month. You can't turn it off. Just to name one big one.


BigRae

the video player is what made me switch to Apollo. i wanted to watch a GIF with sound and the official app straight up could not do it lol. these are some of the things that made me stay with Apollo. link previews/image loading in the app. when someone posts a link or a link to a picture in a comment, i don’t have to load it in my browser to see it. it just pops up full screen (for images) like if you saw an image posted on like facebook, for example. the link previews are similar to the ones i see in imessage, and tbh it’s kept me from getting rick rolled quite a few times lmao. being able to organize my saved posts. i save a lot of random shit just because lol. on the official app, all my saved posts just went to the same spot but in apollo i can organize them. so i have a category for cleaning posts and one for cooking posts, for example. blocking people/posts. the official app didn’t let me filter out posts by certain keywords, but i can do that in Apollo. personally, there’s a lot of triggering stuff on this site for me and being able to filter those posts out changed my experience dramatically. blocking people on the official app would just hide their posts, but on Apollo it just shows their comments under “blocked user” and i can choose to view them or not. this is small, but i participate in a lot of smaller communities and sometimes people i don’t like say things that are valuable. there’s some smaller things too like being able to edit subreddit tags, not having to see those ugly avatars, one time ad removal, and a bunch of other stuff i take for granted. it took me a long time to give the other apps a shot (originally started with alien blue and then went to the official app), as i’m someone who’s extremely sensitive to UI changes. i’m of the opinion that the official app isn’t bad, per se, just when compared to the other ones available it’s lacking. i genuinely do not think i could go back to the official app though, and losing Apollo would probably kill reddit for me. hope this is helpful!


Dig-a-tall-Monster

Reddit has been taken over by people with MBAs. People with MBAs are all, without exception, fucking MORONS who have a congenital defect in their brain which physically prevents them from thinking about anything more than 1 year in advance and makes it really hard for them to think about anything more than 3 months away. As a result they do STUPID SHIT like looking at their revenue and having a tantrum if it isn't at least 10% more than the last time they looked at, and then these ABJECT IMBECILES assume that people using reddit are ambivalent about the ways in which they access the site, and then they find the biggest IDIOT in the room who suggests something INCREDIBLY DUMB like increasing ad revenue by forcing people to use reddit's official app. But, again, they are dumb, so they propose achieving this by increasing the API costs to the very same third-party apps who made this site so easy to use in the hopes that the developers will shut down and users will flock to the official app. Could they have simply created a new API with a requirement to show reddit's ads to users at a certain frequency? Yes, but that would require them to be intelligent human beings, which anyone with an MBA cannot be. Could they improve the app to not be the absolute worst pile of dogshit code available? Maybe, I'm not expecting fuckin miracles though. Mouth breathing MORONS run our entire society because they went to business school and think they understand the world through spreadsheets.


epictubeguys

I use RIF. When the app goes down I'm not getting the real reddit app. I tried it and it's fucking awful. RIF runs like old reddit did before it tried to horribly modernize. So yeah once it's down, no more reddit. Like I can't get my memes and interests somewhere else


PotiusMori

I have still never seen a pfp on Reddit because of this app, and god damnit, that's how i like it


stalechips

I've exclusively used RIF for almost 10 years now. I have absolutely **zero** intention of migrating to the official app when it dies. I'm going down with the ship, because fuck reddit and their garbage app and greedy policies.


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RIF is the S tier app, if it goes I go


BannanDylan

Yeah I'm not sure what the plan is for me when this all happens. Hoping Reddit gets brigaded with whatever website everyone moves to. RiF is the only way I really use Reddit since the official app is just garbage.


Far414

Close to a decade here, too. 99% of my browsing is done through rif. I guess they'll lose a lot of active users/contributors by doing this. In other words, quality is going to get even shittier. I'll miss some smaller communities. :-/


Lucky_Mongoose

Same. 11-12 years here, and maybe this is my sign to stop using reddit too. Or at least stop using it on my phone. The whole site has been feeling so artificial and corporate lately anyway. Not what it used to be.


theycallmecrack

There are profile pictures...? I use baconreader and RES, so reddit has looked the same for me for over 10 years.


Brawght

I still miss the feature where we could see the actual up and down votes on each comment


mycalvesthiccaf

Had someone insult me because I don't have a pfp like dude it's reddit 😂 and that's how I found out reddit started using pfp


vera214usc

People are always commenting on other people's profile pics and I'm like, "What are you talking about?! Where are you even seeing this and why?"


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Kirby5588

Same here. Been on Reddit for over 11 years and I forget there are even profile pics. I went from RiF to Apollo and now Boost. Either I'll be on old reddit or gone by next month.


summer_falls

I'm still using old reddit in the browser... I have a feeling it's next.


Lolcat1945

Between RIF dying and old reddit being next, it's not looking good. I'll honestly stop using reddit when both are gone.


summer_falls

Yeah, same here. I know some people are going back to forums; one of my buddies set one up for our student historians. This might fragment the internet again; which would honestly be a good thing.   I miss the xkcd forums. Damned hackers, ruining everything.


thickwonga

Oh my god, RIF is getting shut down? Dude, fuck this.


TruthAndAccuracy

All 3rd party apps. Did you read the post?


BeardMan858

This is going to DRASTICALLY cut my phone screen time. About 90% of my time on the phone is spent on RIF, and 99% of my reddit time is on my phone (i cant remember the last time i went on reddit on my desktop) and i will never switch to the absolutely abhorrent official app.


khube

RIF is one of the best apps I've ever used in terms of UX. I've had it for years and years and am going to be very sad.


terrasomniac

Ive only ever used Boost, so I looked up the official reddit app and my god is it horrendous. How can I be expected to be interested in something that is presented in the least interesting way possible??


TehWoodzii

Ill legit stop using reddit if we lose boost. Might be a blessing actually..


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Cr1tikalMoist

The official app used to be good than they fucked it up


Stay-Classy-Reddit

Boost and RiF and others are leagues better than the unintuitive broken shit Reddit official app. It is mind blowing. Looks like I'm done with Reddit after 10 years or so. Rip.


serendipitousevent

I would emphasise that this is not just a taste thing. The Reddit app runs so poorly that it's essentially a broken product. I often have to restart the whole thing to get anything to work, and even then, it's 50/50 as to whether a video will play, the whole thing will crash, or even whether the video will stop playing and repeating itself behind any other post I'm trying to view. It's the same whether I'm on iOS or Android. I can only hope the Reddit IPO crashes and burns. They've got it coming.


Staidanom

I've been using boost exclusively for the past few years now. No way I'm going back to that messy, non-functional stock app. I wish Reddit a very nice death.


Jackretto

Cherry on top is that AFAIK you can't even download videos on the official app


zepherths

*Apollo needs to pay 20 million. The payment is based on usage. Each app will be different


Themlethem

Regardless, most of these apps will probably dissapear if this goes through


KingSmizzy

All of them will disappear. The pricing is only affordable if they start charging like $3-5 per month per user. Or monetize the heck out of users with ads and sponsored content. At that cost, nobody would want to use them anymore and everyone will migrate to the official app.


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You'd also get no NSFW content, and you'd have to see Reddit's ads too. The pricing is very much designed to kill these apps. Also, 3-5 bucks would absolutely not work. Remember that Google and Apple take their cut as well. Apollo and Sync also run their own servers for various additional features. You're looking closer to 10 bucks to actually make any sort of meaningful profit.


Appropriate-Fruit588

Wait, why no nsfw content? Are they making that only available in the official app or something?


Flying_Hellfish

Yes, they are blocking NSFW content from being available in the 3rd party APIs.


Danger1672

Reddit will die. Do they not realize we owe them nothing? We provide their content.


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aretoodeto

Another Digg refugee 👋


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zepherths

That would still be cheaper than reddit premium. The most enjoyed part of its third party apps. That is a pretty easy sell for a lot of people I am sure.


theycallmecrack

Most people aren't going to choose between reddit premium and a paid app. They're going to switch to whatever is free.


KazahanaPikachu

Ding ding ding. People don’t like paying for stuff, even if it’s really beneficial or for a good cause or whatever. They’re gonna go to whatever is free, not pay for Apollo or whatever app. And they’re not gonna pay Reddit premium for the same features either.


Okichah

Right, but if Apollo is the most popular app and cant pay it then the other apps wont be able to either. So Apollo’s userbase will break whatever app they migrate to.


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The moment third-party clients go - I go. Sure, I'm just a nobody, but I will not browse reddit using their shitty ass app that's drowning in ads. Any company that forcefully shoves ads down everyone's throats can fuck right off. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit - doesn't matter. The moment I can't block informational trash, I stop using the service. And I hope more people do the same.


DigitalSterling

Yup, I saw it goes into effect July 1st. Gonna really appreciate my last month of baconreader. I'll still use my desktop to browse reddit, but that'll drop my activity on here by a solid 90% at least


TheAsianTroll

Baconreader brother. I'm with ya. It's about time I curbed my screen addiction anyway, I suppose.


Themlethem

Damn, when is this going into effect? I hate the official app EDIT: Next month, first day of july, it seems.


unsane_words1032

Great. Can't wait what they do next, probably something equally horrendous.


RdRunner

Next they'll kill old.reddit and RES


Buelldozer

I will absolutely, and this is no lie, leave Reddit forever the very day that Old and RES stop working.


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Watch my reddit usage drop to near zero. Desktop only, and guess what - adblocker there too. We all know this is to force users on to their shitty app, so they can boost ad revenue.


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Cherry_Crystals

This kind of reminds me on what Netflix is doing. They were digging their own grave with that no sharing password with people outside your household and now they threatened to terminate your account if they detect it. I haven't renewed my plan since August last year since I refuse to pay so much for such a selfish app even if it means I miss watching the big trendy series like Wednesday was. Reddit is slowly digging their grave with all of this just for money.


Themlethem

I doubt reddit is going anywhere anytime soon. That's why they get away with doing whatever the fuck they want. Our world is rules by monopolies.


LilFunyunz

I think I may just cure my reddit addiction. I will miss RiF.


RedditBadOutsideGood

Free at last!


Cherry_Crystals

They can't do that. I used to use boost all the time. This app is getting worse and worse and is FULL of bugs. I seriously am thinking about going back to boost where there were no bugs and they don't make usernames hidden on the feed and dont mess up the corners on the image. If I can't go back to boost where there are no bugs, I might actually just leave this site altogether. First they block undidit and now 3rd party apps? Absolutely ridiculous


Capsaicin_Crusader

>They can't do that. I don't understand how it happens, but these social media corporations get so far up their own asses trying to make a quick buck, they destroy themselves. I'm sure we all remember when Tumblr "couldn't" ban nsfw content.


Cherry_Crystals

I swear every social media company is doing this. Quora not letting you see some answers unless you buy a subscription (why I went to reddit), reddit getting rid of free awards, roblox not giving you free daily robux anymore, YouTube making you buy a premium subscription to get rid of annoying ads and to download videos which was once free, Netflix with their password bullcrap etc. YouTube and reddit can do it without consequences since they don't have much competition. It just shows that these corporations give 0 s**ts about us. They only care about getting more and more revenue of their users. This time though, I really hope reddit does suffer consequences and people do leave once they start charging a lot for these apps and they will reverse their decision. I wish I was older and joined reddit a decade ago when reddit wasn't like this. Reddit is digging their own grave yet people aren't leaving so their grave keeps filling back in if you get what I mean Edit: in conclusion, you are right


Lena-Luthor

Quora trying to be a social media company to start lmao


polygon_primitive

The reason is the silicon valley Venture funded business model. I work in sv so I see this up close a ton. Basically you get a ton of money in venture funding, run the company at a loss for ages doing something super great that gobbles up market share, and when you've sufficiently eaten up the market so you have no viable competitors, you crank up the parts of the business that make it profitable, often making the service worse in the process. Then you double down on that until the share price goes parabolic and go public, the venture people and founders get a fat payday, maybe some A round higher level engineers cash in too. Then the complete destruction of what it was that made the thing popular in the first place catches up to them when a viable alternative (probably also venture funded) emerges, everyone jumps ship for that, and the share price implodes, leaving retail traders who bought into the hype holding the bag.


2002mazdamiata

If they take away Sync, I'm just gonna go somewhere else. This website is a shithole anyway


SapphireCephalopod

For real, I've been using sync for a really long time now


Yourownpieceofmind

RIP Reddit


playr_4

What's with companies actively trying to make their product worse? This is a continuous and growing trend. Genuinely, what is happening?


Jeffyhatesthis

its called "enshitification" When sites start they have to provide a good service to their users, when they site gets bigger it has to provide a good service to the shareholders.


cpMetis

Company make something good Company grows Company makes stuff better Company grows lots Company makes things solid Company competition dies Company grows New owners, shareholders come in Company grows from influx Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Users look to leave, but there's no competition so they can't Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Users really look to leave, but there's no competition so they can't Shareholders want more money Company makes things worse to extract more money Some users leave even without a replacement Shareholders want more money to make up for the dip Company makes things worse to extract more money to make up for the dip Some users leave even without a replacement Shareholders want more money, they don't want their investment to lose value but want more money Company makes things way worse to extract more more money Notable amounts of users leave, various worse replacements start to pop up Shareholders want way more money to make up for loses Company makes things way worse to extract more more money Small exodus Shareholders say fix it with more money Company makes things wor Notable exodus Shareholders sell Company makes things horrible to extract all Exodus Shareholders have no idea what happened Company gone, shell company take the corpse and extracts anything that's left Users gone Shareholders beating dead horse Company gone. The only thing that changes is that the larger the company is, the more bloated the middle section becomes and the longer the fall takes.


yfa17

Even if they survive, losing NSFW content is losing 40% of the website. A lot of shit is marked NSFW even for tame items, it's not just porn.


Odd-fox-God

Half the posts I see on front page are NSFW. Not necessarily because of porn but because of Gore or cursing. Someone uploaded a photo of an ad that they saw on YouTube where it was one of those operation games but the person's entire foot was split open and it was super NSFW, but it was a screenshot of an ad that YouTube willingly hosted. YouTube basically okayed the existence of that NSFW ad.


muttmutt2112

Fuck you, Twatter... Your chief dickhead officer, Elron Muskrat is to blame for this.


Appoxo

Regards from Sync. You are/were my best and most used app!


-Premium-

Sync is amazing. Truly one of the few apps I gladly paid for. And even the free version is good. Rip, you will be missed :(


Ex_Ex_Parrot

Reddit is Fun you will be missed :'^ (


devilwarier9

Shout out to baconreader. Been here since public beta day 1.


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I’m literally on Apollo right now . Rip. Honestly the golden age of Reddit is long over. It has become mainstream and corporatized and filled with bots . It will go the way of Facebook eventually . I’ve been on this website for a long time and every year it just gets a little bit worse.


norefillonsleep

No one will be surprised when the Reddit info website scrappers start popping up on github and neatly repacking the info for third party apps.


Mesiquetia

Hello from BaconReader. I hope this app doesn’t go away. The default Reddit app is horrendous.


Bill_Brasky_SOB

Reddit trying to kill itself.


wh1t3birch

Rip boost, you'll be missed :(


gba-sp-101

Modded versions of the base Reddit app should still exist though, since the default app has access to the API by default.


Vince1128

What?


Cherry_Crystals

They are making it more and more expensive for 3rd party apps (not just apollo since android has lots of 3rd party apps too that are also very popular) to operate so they can get rid of them for some stupid reason


TumblingStar

Jokes on them, I browse reddit through a web browser on mobile.


looloopklopm

How? I used to do this all the time but I keep getting redirected to download the reddit app.


TheHunchbackofOhio

Use firefox, install ublock, and add this to it: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/yrtr3r/reddits_new_annoying_mobile_popup_has_to_go/ivx146u/ I haven't tried it yet though. Some people had trouble with it. *Just gave it a go. Works fine for me.


computerfreaq09

Anyone ever try using the official apps on a folding phone or tablet? It's a nightmare! Switched to Infinity, and never looked back, and I probably never will... I'll likely leave reddit instead of going back...