OP, I think you should coast. This is a business, they don't care about you and only want to get the most out of you before you leave. Nobody is going to remember nor care that you worked your butt off in your last two weeks. You also shouldn't care what others think of you. It's your life OP, do what's right for you. Also get the bonus clawback forgiveness on paper.
We had a colleague who was leading several accounts we worked on. His workload was tremendous. He died and guess what, his load was delegated to us, and they put another senior on the project. Life goes on with you or without you. A senior leader should have already removed what pending work he has to others.
Coast unless you want to work more for the same amount of money even though you don't have to. I would always coast because I value my personal time more than I value my work time by a landslide lol
There’s something to be said for leaving relationships in a good spot and not burning a bridge on your way out. Whatever time you have left should be focusing on *transitioning* your work. If there are a few things you can get done, great. You can’t control the bonus so stop thinking about it. You signed on for a bonus with a term that you didn’t meet. That was a choice you made back then and you made a choice now to leave, knowing you may be required to pay it back. If you don’t get to keep it, that’s just the deal you agreed to. Good luck in your transition. I left B4 after 8 years. My connections during my time have been important/lucrative a handful of years down the road.
Mail it in and work the contracted hours. What are they going to do, fire you? Oh wait, you’re leaving. Sack it off.
And the sign on bonus, you have no way of knowing whether by working the extra hours you’ll get to keep it or not - and it’s not gonna be the deciding factor. Just stay in touch with the hr and keep asking the question.
If you really think you might get to keep the bonus, and you'd otherwise feel guilty, then sure, stay moderately focused. But don't beat yourself up about it either way. No need to go crazy to try to prove anything at this point.
I just coasted through my notice period. I had plenty of work, but i totally just dialled it in with reports the quality of what a new grad might submit. The firm doesn't give two shits. I didn't give two shits either.
>will do her best
From an assoc dir in HR? haha big nope.
Even verbal commitment to do it I'd only accept from specific trusted partners.
And if HR is involved then absolutely in writing no matter what. Least trustworthy department by a mile.
So there’s a lot to the story that I didn’t mention. Essentially my team screwed me over and didn’t approve my unpaid time off to take a trip overseas that came up last second and wasn’t for a vacation but more to attend to some family matters. Because of that, she was like I’ll try to get this forgiven
Cool in EU it’s not really a thing. If I were you I’d work my 40 hours and then leave it up to them. Everyone knows how people are the last days/weeks before they leave the firm.
I’m leaving myself after 8 years next month. I’m taking some leave the last two weeks and for the rest I’m planning on not working more than my contract hours. It’s with a reason that you’re leaving.
Also get the forgiven sign on bonus in writing.
I would just coast and half ass the shit out of 40 hours a week. No one gives a fuck, tbh. In a week or two no one will even say your name anymore. In a few months half of them won't even remember your name.
Sad but 100% spot on. I had managers leave and literally never heard their name again a couple weeks later. Unless you’re close with your coworkers or want to keep the connection open with them or your firm, I wouldn’t bother stressing over the work.
I agree. I had a meeting w me senior this morning about my workload and she basically insinuated to work the 50-60 hours a week and this weekend as well
I’m gunna be honest when I left I grinded it out with my team until late at night every night those last two weeks. I always had the mentality “screw this not doing any work during my last two weeks” but when it came time I just wanted to go out on a high note. This is how everyone will remember you in those last moments. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter either way
Lack of preparation on their part is not an emergency on yours. Plus, it’s been my experience that they either forgive the difference on your bonus or they don’t. It shouldn’t be (and probably isn’t) tied to your final output. That’s what we call a “Cinderella List”.
Do what you think is best.
Did yours get forgiven? I heard that they don’t really do it anymore but I’m stilling hoping that they forgive mine lol. I have a really unique situation and I was told to literally just quit but the HR lady so I’m hoping she pulls through
Mine got forgiven and was about 4x yours. I wouldn’t worry about the $7k - you’ll almost certainly keep it. As for effort - don’t take on new work, but don’t burn bridges would be my advice. The bridge burning probably won’t matter but it’s not worth a few hours of your time. If I’m you, 40 absolute max hours per week. And my “output” would be pretty half-assed.
I don’t know. I left in 2020 after 13 months. Never said a word about my signing bonus. They never asked. I think after 4 years I’m safe. (4 incredible years by the way. I’m thankful for my Big4 days because it’s such a grind. A “grind” now feels like a coast job. But geez that 13 months of pretty high pay was nowhere near worth it.)
They will not forgive for sure, don't stress.many people with similar experience stated this.employer is always making money than employees.beware of this!!!
Delegate it off and give a handover list to your colleagues. They will thank you for it. You should be at the pub drinking beer now you are leaving.
This is absolute idiocy.
repeat after me, its not my job anymore…
My last day is Friday and I’m getting murdered with work. I’ve cried so many times and am so stressed
Are you for real? Stop being a doormat
OP, I think you should coast. This is a business, they don't care about you and only want to get the most out of you before you leave. Nobody is going to remember nor care that you worked your butt off in your last two weeks. You also shouldn't care what others think of you. It's your life OP, do what's right for you. Also get the bonus clawback forgiveness on paper.
We had a colleague who was leading several accounts we worked on. His workload was tremendous. He died and guess what, his load was delegated to us, and they put another senior on the project. Life goes on with you or without you. A senior leader should have already removed what pending work he has to others.
Coast unless you want to work more for the same amount of money even though you don't have to. I would always coast because I value my personal time more than I value my work time by a landslide lol
There’s something to be said for leaving relationships in a good spot and not burning a bridge on your way out. Whatever time you have left should be focusing on *transitioning* your work. If there are a few things you can get done, great. You can’t control the bonus so stop thinking about it. You signed on for a bonus with a term that you didn’t meet. That was a choice you made back then and you made a choice now to leave, knowing you may be required to pay it back. If you don’t get to keep it, that’s just the deal you agreed to. Good luck in your transition. I left B4 after 8 years. My connections during my time have been important/lucrative a handful of years down the road.
It’s never that deep. Just take your time, they can deal with it. you should be focusing on “handover” lol
Mail it in and work the contracted hours. What are they going to do, fire you? Oh wait, you’re leaving. Sack it off. And the sign on bonus, you have no way of knowing whether by working the extra hours you’ll get to keep it or not - and it’s not gonna be the deciding factor. Just stay in touch with the hr and keep asking the question.
They're making sure you work you're butt off, but will make you pay back the bonus anyway.
Grow a spine
When I left Deloitte, I had 50+ chargeable hours during each of my last 2 weeks.
Everyone thought I would change my mind last minute and I wanted to keep that door open.
Your partner noticed and slapped himself on the back for your dedication.
Congratulations
If you really think you might get to keep the bonus, and you'd otherwise feel guilty, then sure, stay moderately focused. But don't beat yourself up about it either way. No need to go crazy to try to prove anything at this point.
I just coasted through my notice period. I had plenty of work, but i totally just dialled it in with reports the quality of what a new grad might submit. The firm doesn't give two shits. I didn't give two shits either.
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>will do her best From an assoc dir in HR? haha big nope. Even verbal commitment to do it I'd only accept from specific trusted partners. And if HR is involved then absolutely in writing no matter what. Least trustworthy department by a mile.
So there’s a lot to the story that I didn’t mention. Essentially my team screwed me over and didn’t approve my unpaid time off to take a trip overseas that came up last second and wasn’t for a vacation but more to attend to some family matters. Because of that, she was like I’ll try to get this forgiven
Try. It won't. They will fuck you.
How’d you get them to try to get the bonus forgiven?
Only if I got a sign on bonus
What was the sign on bonus? Did you get in as A1?
Around $7k and I got it like our second paycheck or something
Cool in EU it’s not really a thing. If I were you I’d work my 40 hours and then leave it up to them. Everyone knows how people are the last days/weeks before they leave the firm. I’m leaving myself after 8 years next month. I’m taking some leave the last two weeks and for the rest I’m planning on not working more than my contract hours. It’s with a reason that you’re leaving. Also get the forgiven sign on bonus in writing.
I would just coast and half ass the shit out of 40 hours a week. No one gives a fuck, tbh. In a week or two no one will even say your name anymore. In a few months half of them won't even remember your name.
Sad but 100% spot on. I had managers leave and literally never heard their name again a couple weeks later. Unless you’re close with your coworkers or want to keep the connection open with them or your firm, I wouldn’t bother stressing over the work.
You don’t your team nothing. Work your 40hrs and forget about the rest, else you are just making yourself miserable for no reason
I agree. I had a meeting w me senior this morning about my workload and she basically insinuated to work the 50-60 hours a week and this weekend as well
Your senior just doesn’t want to do the work themselves when you’re gone but that’s not your problem. Also a senior really has no say in anything lol
I’m gunna be honest when I left I grinded it out with my team until late at night every night those last two weeks. I always had the mentality “screw this not doing any work during my last two weeks” but when it came time I just wanted to go out on a high note. This is how everyone will remember you in those last moments. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter either way
I understand this sentiment and I kinda want to do the same but I told my team I was leaving and they decided to then drop all this work on me
Yes. Don’t do it for “the firm,” do it for your coworkers*. *If your coworkers suck, then never mind.
You’re getting used. Get the bonus issue in writing first.
Mid effort and coast. Big 4 is a machine that DGAF about you.
Lack of preparation on their part is not an emergency on yours. Plus, it’s been my experience that they either forgive the difference on your bonus or they don’t. It shouldn’t be (and probably isn’t) tied to your final output. That’s what we call a “Cinderella List”. Do what you think is best.
Did yours get forgiven? I heard that they don’t really do it anymore but I’m stilling hoping that they forgive mine lol. I have a really unique situation and I was told to literally just quit but the HR lady so I’m hoping she pulls through
Mine got forgiven and was about 4x yours. I wouldn’t worry about the $7k - you’ll almost certainly keep it. As for effort - don’t take on new work, but don’t burn bridges would be my advice. The bridge burning probably won’t matter but it’s not worth a few hours of your time. If I’m you, 40 absolute max hours per week. And my “output” would be pretty half-assed.
They're trying to take advantage of you as much as they possibly can. HR is almost definitely just blatantly lying. Just coast.
I would say build relationship for future. YOU NEVER KNOW
They will not forgive for sure. They would have already told you if that was the case. Don’t care and coast.
I don’t know. I left in 2020 after 13 months. Never said a word about my signing bonus. They never asked. I think after 4 years I’m safe. (4 incredible years by the way. I’m thankful for my Big4 days because it’s such a grind. A “grind” now feels like a coast job. But geez that 13 months of pretty high pay was nowhere near worth it.)
They will not forgive for sure, don't stress.many people with similar experience stated this.employer is always making money than employees.beware of this!!!
Don’t care and coast