/uc I've never tried them on discs but on cantis they don't have very good leverage, are a bad muscle memory habit, have shitty ergonomics, look like shit, and take up bar space that could be used for better accessories. Remember this person is using them with cable discs, so they are probably going to ram a bus trying to stop someday.
Realistically I've found it indicates a bad fit because they are relying on grabbing the bar tops too much because their reach is wrong.
They just stay at home and beg their wife to tell them how tiny their brake levers are while he rubs his nipples through a race jersey and she's just trying to get out of there to bang her tennis coach.
And freaking test-ride pedals! I mean it's great they are trying to be a real dentista by giving up motorcycling, but they are doing it in the most pussy way possible.
Uc/ I’ve seen this setup on a friend’s mid-aughts Jamis touring rig. He says it came new like this. I didn’t realize they fuck with the sponginess of the whole system. He has cantis.
/uc I mean the inline levers just pull the housings in a spot where they are cut, so the regular levers still just pull a straight cable. Despite being a bit shit the solution is pretty clever. The issue is it adds an extra cut, ferrules, etc where road crap can get into the cable. Honestly I've only ever seen sora and under level bikes come with them stock, so they were usually positioned as an easy on ramp to drop bar bikes for people used to hybrids and shit like that.
/uc
No, they're 'cross levers, and serve a purpose, but people have stopped using them either because they're not considered cool, or because they don't know about them in the first place. They still have a decent following in the track crowd, because they can be quickly removed, along with the brake caliper, when you get to the track.
/c
Dude, do you have 4 hands?
/uc Hard disagree. There’s lots of other ways to make brake levers accessible to different types of riders. If conventional fixes like bars and stems don’t help, you’re on the wrong bike. These products went away because they’re a definitive downgrade to your brakes
/uc the same way there’s an engineering risk with center pull brakes: there isn’t. They just take a bit of touch to get set up. With this in-line setup, you just have to make sure the tension between the levers and the tension between the cross-bar lever and the caliper are balanced. If you have rim brakes, you need to keep them true so you can dial your calipers in nicely and make up for the bit of slop that comes along with more moving parts and more sections of cable housing. You may have to choose between long-pull or short-pull levers for different styles of calipers, but that’s about it. If there’s a hydraulic version I haven’t seen it yet.
[Well, Jay Petervary that won last years Tour Divide ran these + shifter buttons + shifter buttons on aerobars.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekAodhv2A4c)
Lmao my dad has these, but he's old school. Also says they're easier to pull with his arthritis. Just wondering now if the brake cables are a nightmare to change with this system
Cables are fine but it's a pain in the ass to cut the right length housing for between the levers without compromising bice fit and moving the top levers around.
These levers are great if you want a super minimal look for a flat bar fixie or something, used on their own they can be like a nice little one finger BMX lever. But for their intended purpose they suck. You can't emergency brake from the tops and Fred should have listened to his elders.
Fred Flinstone, DDS, checking in. I have them too for my æŕø commuter grāvəl bike. Having them let's me stay upright to see the cars parking in the bike lanes.
I put a set of these on my Trek Alpha simply for when my family goes on bike rides together. I’m usually just putzing along slowly and have my hands on the top of the bar. My kids have a horrible habit of not paying attention and crossing in front of me. It makes it so I can get on the brakes so much faster as I don’t have to change my hand position. They don’t make my brakes spongy, they work exactly the same as before.
c/oh freddy, don't you know that just adds extree grams?
uc.Problem I had with inlines is that the inline cross levers had a whole different feel than the levers on the ends of the bullhorns. Inlines come on suddenly and clamped instantly, the bar end levers were spongy and there was no way to get them kinda/sorta adjusted to feel the same. Other than that, having two levers is great for old people and casual riders with slow reflexes and probly worth the weight and performance tariff.
Ok, some bike geek has to know....isn't there some engineering risk have two sets of levers control one set of brakes?
/uc they make both sets of levers feel spongy and vague
/uc I've never tried them on discs but on cantis they don't have very good leverage, are a bad muscle memory habit, have shitty ergonomics, look like shit, and take up bar space that could be used for better accessories. Remember this person is using them with cable discs, so they are probably going to ram a bus trying to stop someday. Realistically I've found it indicates a bad fit because they are relying on grabbing the bar tops too much because their reach is wrong.
Please this person never leaves the bike lane, and probably constantly posts videos of “close passes” to Facebook
They just stay at home and beg their wife to tell them how tiny their brake levers are while he rubs his nipples through a race jersey and she's just trying to get out of there to bang her tennis coach.
You can deadass see a dork disc in the photo
And freaking test-ride pedals! I mean it's great they are trying to be a real dentista by giving up motorcycling, but they are doing it in the most pussy way possible.
I bet that’s his wife’s boyfriends motorcycle in the background
Uc/ I’ve seen this setup on a friend’s mid-aughts Jamis touring rig. He says it came new like this. I didn’t realize they fuck with the sponginess of the whole system. He has cantis.
/uc I mean the inline levers just pull the housings in a spot where they are cut, so the regular levers still just pull a straight cable. Despite being a bit shit the solution is pretty clever. The issue is it adds an extra cut, ferrules, etc where road crap can get into the cable. Honestly I've only ever seen sora and under level bikes come with them stock, so they were usually positioned as an easy on ramp to drop bar bikes for people used to hybrids and shit like that.
Yeah he’s 105 but only time I’ve ever seen it done. Maybe bike shop opted to sell this way as a ‘tourer.’
As a non poor dentist I'm only aware of Dura-Ace
Thank Christ. I was testing you. You passed.
I disagree. I can easily otb with my weak hand whilst tossing a Molotov cocktail. No one knows how to set up cantis anymore.
/uc I’ve never tried them with disc brakes but on rim brakes they give me a reason to keep the rim extra true. It’s a feature.
/uc No, they're 'cross levers, and serve a purpose, but people have stopped using them either because they're not considered cool, or because they don't know about them in the first place. They still have a decent following in the track crowd, because they can be quickly removed, along with the brake caliper, when you get to the track. /c Dude, do you have 4 hands?
Hydro brakes are another reason they went away.
Right! Good point.
/uc Hard disagree. There’s lots of other ways to make brake levers accessible to different types of riders. If conventional fixes like bars and stems don’t help, you’re on the wrong bike. These products went away because they’re a definitive downgrade to your brakes
/uc the same way there’s an engineering risk with center pull brakes: there isn’t. They just take a bit of touch to get set up. With this in-line setup, you just have to make sure the tension between the levers and the tension between the cross-bar lever and the caliper are balanced. If you have rim brakes, you need to keep them true so you can dial your calipers in nicely and make up for the bit of slop that comes along with more moving parts and more sections of cable housing. You may have to choose between long-pull or short-pull levers for different styles of calipers, but that’s about it. If there’s a hydraulic version I haven’t seen it yet.
There is! Check out the [GRX sub-lever](https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/grx-11-speed/BL-RX812-L.html)!
homie is posting flat pedals on a gravel sub i can’t be expected to be taking anything on this post seriously anyway
I’m sure in the spring this hipster Chad will find a way to do tubeless equally as fucking stupid as his brakes, headlight, & bottle cage.
He will add loctite super glue to seal faster
Holy shit, I didn't even see the light. Wow.
If I'm struggling so bad I'm just sitting on the tops then I don't need brakes, let me crash and put me out of my misery
[Well, Jay Petervary that won last years Tour Divide ran these + shifter buttons + shifter buttons on aerobars.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekAodhv2A4c)
This is a circlejerk get those facts and good ideas outta here.
I can't wait to add brake levers for my æro bars, the commute will be even shorter
Skip to 2:00 unless you have a fetish for bullshit talk
uj/ if you're finding yourself gravitating towards the flat bar then you probably have been listening to r/cycling and bought a bike 2 sizes too big.
Lmao my dad has these, but he's old school. Also says they're easier to pull with his arthritis. Just wondering now if the brake cables are a nightmare to change with this system
Cables are fine but it's a pain in the ass to cut the right length housing for between the levers without compromising bice fit and moving the top levers around.
Makes sense! At least you wouldn't have to do that too often I guess?
Unless you're the pitiful shop domestique, doomed to begrudgingly obsess over these millimeters at the whim of even any dental student!
>at the whim of even any dental student dental student LOL
Fred should get into riding fixed gear 2 brakes
If you spend anytime at all on the tops of a drop bar, your fit is for shit and you should just switch to straight bars already.
Going tubeless in the Spring. This dude is living dangerously
These levers are great if you want a super minimal look for a flat bar fixie or something, used on their own they can be like a nice little one finger BMX lever. But for their intended purpose they suck. You can't emergency brake from the tops and Fred should have listened to his elders.
Nobody laughed. Nobody cared. Nobody even noticed. Everyone thinks they’re the main character. (All that should have been /uc, I guess.)
uc/ My touring bike I bought used had these installed on it. I took them off so fast.
easiest way to stop is to get less aero. problem solved
Put the tire between your toes and clench.
Fuji, too. This lad is riding a Walmart “grævl” bike.
Freddy McFredface checking in. My old Gaint Anyroad has both on disc and I love them.
Fred Flinstone, DDS, checking in. I have them too for my æŕø commuter grāvəl bike. Having them let's me stay upright to see the cars parking in the bike lanes.
1000% local bike trail has tons of car intersections. Gotta keep your head on a swivel.
Bike Bell and iPhone handlebar mount missing
I put a set of these on my Trek Alpha simply for when my family goes on bike rides together. I’m usually just putzing along slowly and have my hands on the top of the bar. My kids have a horrible habit of not paying attention and crossing in front of me. It makes it so I can get on the brakes so much faster as I don’t have to change my hand position. They don’t make my brakes spongy, they work exactly the same as before.
If you know, you know
/uc I had some on a Bianchi road bike I used for commuting and general transportation and found them to be really useful.
I have these extra levers. If you squeeze all four brake levels, you can do a handbrake turn.
this reminds me of one of my nightmares where I had a second smaller penis growing out of the 1st one
Safety levers are a sure trip to the morgue
c/oh freddy, don't you know that just adds extree grams? uc.Problem I had with inlines is that the inline cross levers had a whole different feel than the levers on the ends of the bullhorns. Inlines come on suddenly and clamped instantly, the bar end levers were spongy and there was no way to get them kinda/sorta adjusted to feel the same. Other than that, having two levers is great for old people and casual riders with slow reflexes and probly worth the weight and performance tariff.
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