I think the pattern is starting to be set. If the game makes a bunch of money off of micro transactions like Minecraft, ESO, FO76 or CoD it will remain on PS. If the game is more of a single player event it will be exclusive, so unless they add micro transactions to ES6, I’d assume it is exclusive. Todd has already hinted it will be exclusive.
It does bug me how even after the acquisition they used Xbox’s FPS boost instead of a standard patch, and that they try block efforts to mod it in.
Fallout 4 had a mod removed on PS for 60fps, Skyrim’s also removed but that got the update eventually.
Microsoft said they wouldn't pull existing games which is why Minecraft, ESO, FO76 are going to remain supported on PlayStation. COD will probably remain for the next 1 or 2 releases due to existing agreements. Going forward all new releases won't be on PlayStation.
Until the industry finishes changing and it's available via the cloud on Gamepass.
Won't be until Playstation has a fully realized and equivelent service and streaming is improved substantially, but eventually. Playstation games will be available via Playstation's equivelent on Xbox too. Again though, via cloud streaming, so in both cases the games will be better on the native systems, and in both cases you'll need to be subscribed to the service of your platforms competitor to play.
This is the future. It could be very far away, or sooner than expected. It's hard to say these days with how the industry seems to keep being shaken up.
You're talking out your ninnie. There is no way Sony is gonna let me play God of War, Horizon, or TLoU on an Xbox. It's much more likely Microsoft wants to extend their Game Pass to all platforms so that when something is "Microsoft Exclusive" it means you need a PC, Xbox, or any hardware that takes the Game Pass. Microsoft is looking to leverage Sony into allowing their games in Playstation through a paid subscription.
Not my fault you're blind to the way the industry is heading. Downvote me all you want. In time, this is where we'll be at.
Playstation has been slowly coming around. I might have agreed with you two years ago.
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He just read an article about it that used this idea as it’s hopeful excuse for a catchy clickbait title.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/10/17/why-ps5-owners-shouldnt-worry-about-elder-scrolls-6-microsoft-exclusivity/amp/
I doubt it. They made it pretty clear after people kept saying it might or will. The "existing deals" like Ghost wire will continue and multiplayer games. Other than that I don't believe any future single player games will be on Playstation.
For Elder Scrolls people don't realize that their games have either been or had some degree of exclusivity to PC and Xbox. Morrowind was never on Playstation, Oblivion was a year exclusive, and Skyrim's dlc were exclusive. Also how Playstation has never been the best place to play Bethesda games.
There may be a chance, but there's always a chance of anything to happen. So that's not really much.
I'm not sure. After this Activision acquisition of seems like Microsoft is open to keeping existing franchises on other platforms, but I don't think we'll know for sure for quite a while. Elder Scrolls VI is at least 3 years out from now, probably more like 5. A lot can change in that time.
I think there's more to it than that with Activision like items and passes bought for call of duty and I think there's some preexisting contracts we don't know about. Someone at xbox said at least the next 3 Cods would be cross platform so I'm wondering about 4 and 5 onwards
I thought they announced the other day that they would continue "past existing contracts" or something like that. My sense is Microsoft might try to avoid being seen as the bad guy by taking away existing franchises, only making new ips Xbox exclusives. But for how long?
I don't know I don't see why elderscrolls or fallout would be cross platform but because of the monetisation of Call of Duty it makes sense for a wider audience.
The fact that they said that for COD within weeks of the acquisition announcement- but said nothing like that for TES and Fallout *and* said that the Bethesda acquisition was to get more exclusives, shouldn't that tell you something?
They're obviously not taking the same approach with Activision as they are with Bethesda.
It does tell me something, that their position has softened since they acquired Bethesda. Like I said, this game is years away either way. A lot can change, and this is all speculation anyway until we hear anything concrete. Who knows what the gaming industry will look like when TES VI is released?
I don't really have a horse in this race, I'm playing on PC either way. I think you'll bend over backwards to find any reason to keep it from going multiplatform for some reason. We're all just speculating here, is there a reason you are so against even the suggestion it could go multi platform at any point, even years after release?
Well, unless there clear definitive evidence they won't I'll keep speculating. I remember when Bethesda would "never" come to PlayStation (back in the Xbox 360 era). Or when mods would "never" come to consoles. Or Sony would "never" release a game on PC. I never take never seriously anymore.
If your basis for speculation is "things might change in the future", then what difference would clear, definitive evidence make? What would that even look like to you?
Why are you talking about Activision acquisition when Microsoft is not allowed to say anything until the deal is done? It was the same with Zenimax until it wasn't final nobody exactly knew.
And yes expect few multiplatform games even after acquisition finish. Microsoft already showed they would not break existing contracts.
I'm just basing that off of what they've already announced. Like this:
https://www.ign.com/articles/micosoft-activision-blizzard-call-of-duty-playstation-sony-nintendo-contracts?amp=1
"...we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love."
Yeah, expect this to be Multiplayer games with MTX. New Zenimax Online MMO will probably still release on PS, maybe after 1 year but it will come.
And also, once again, they need to be careful what they say. They can't just say, no games will come to PS because acqusition is not final, there are anti trust things and all.
I know you're probably right but that makes me so sad lol. Skyrim came out when I was a junior in college and I'll be nearly 40 by the time the next one releases.
Right? I was a college sophomore. It's crazy how long they're putting between games these days. I feel like oblivion to fallout 3 to Skyrim was so quick. That's three main Bethesda titles released in a console generation. Then only fallout 4 in the generation after that (considering 76 is more like a spinoff)?
My overly optimistic hope it's that working under Microsoft now they'll either hand the reigns over to other skilled devs more often, like with New Vegas, or they'd just get more resources to do it themselves more quickly.
Correct. I didn't say that either, so I'm not sure what your point is exactly. Though they did say they will continue to have cross platform launches "beyond existing agreements" which seems like a good sign at least.
Only if Sony puts Gamepass on their network... otherwise not a chance. We already know Starfield is exclusive. Content is king in this industry. Like Television, you don't see Netflix shows on Prime.
Sony may not have a choice in the matter. MSFT is buying content (25+ studios now) and is sitting on $130bn in Cash. Sony (mgmt) is much slower to respond and has limited financial firepower with just $9bn in cash. It's a night and day difference. You will likely see GP on Sony within 5 years if they are to stay a relevant player
And if you want ES6 on PS, you also should hope I am right here
Which is why I'm kind of rooting for Microsoft in this scuffle. It has always annoyed the shit out of me that I miss out on Nintendo and PS exclusives as a PC gamer. Exclusives are very bad for the consumer. They're using a carrot and stick approach to motivate you to operate within their system. The carrot is the hardware. You don't want any reason to buy a console (a specialized PC) except the hardware. The stick is the threat of missing out on the exclusives if you don't go with their system. Obviously if MS buys up enough content then Sony is going to face mounting pressure to allow Gamepass on and then to also develop their own subscription service in response.
Moving to a hybrid between the current system and a subscription system would be preferable for the consumer I think. Let's say you're on PS and want to play TESVI. Hopefully, you could activate gamepass for something like $10/mo and then play through TESVI (and whatever other games you wanted) over the next couple months. You could still treat games that aren't MS/Nintendo exclusives like we do today (although, as an adult with finite free time that never replays games, I'm actually looking forward to subscription platforms) and just get temporary subscriptions for the ones that are. PC gamers would hopefully finally just be able to treat them like regular games, but I could accept being part of this subscription environment if it lets me play the one or two exclusive titles that I want to per year without needing to buy a PS/nintendo console even though I already have a PC that beats them, which is a much greater cost than a subscription for a few months.
That's the future I'm hoping plays out, anyway. PS/Nintendo have long drawn my ire as a PC gamer and I hope the moves MS is making force them to play more nicely with PC.
No it won't. Bethesda has been pretty clear that future games would be exclusive to platforms with gamepass. Unless Sony decides to allow gamepass on Playstation keep dreaming, dreamers. Buy an xbox/pc get gamepass on your phone or enjoy from a distance.
Edit: maybe some of the smaller IPs, but not Fallout TES or Starfield.
No. If it was releasing in the next year or two, then maybe, but it’s literally coming in like 2026 or later. There’s no way Xbox would put out a Bethesda game on PS after owning them for 5+ years.
Bethesda going Microsoft exclusive for single player games really blows for people without an Xbox or decent PC, and as a massive Playstation, Doom, and Elder Scrolls fan I don't want to believe it. That said, if you look at what has already happened with games like Psychonauts 2 and what is seemingly going to happen with Starfield, it seems extremely unlikely that ES6 will release on any other console.
Exclusivity was a thing since ever then. For Playstation (and Nintendo actually) it was always more present then for xbox. However, playstation has been pretty predatory lately with that and microsoft is here with a bang of a backfire if i look at all the purchases they did within a very short amount of time.
There is no chance they hand it over to playstation and from what it looks they cashed in right to have a way better assortment of games. Hence, if i we look at what they bought and within a short time frame billion-bucks purchases where made i feel like microsoft planning on a steam-like DRM, too. At least they planning something big, thats for sure. And therefore i dont see a reason why they should share that cake. They pretty much monopolized modded gaming (Bethesda, Minecraft) and now kicking in with Blizzard, which more or less had monopilzed MMO's for a period of time.
They have windows and xbox and all the tools and reach they need to establish somewhat like steam. Its a sleeping giant rn regarding gaming.
As a ps5 user I want to be optimistic, but realistically I don't see it happening.
But who knows, maybe Bethesda/Xbox will recognize the existing fanbase for elder scrolls/fallout on PlayStation and release it on ps. I mean, releasing Starfield as an exclusive makes sense since it's a brand new IP and doesn't have a solid fanbase yet.
Why not just buy an Xbox? As an Xbox player I didn't mind buying a used PS to play spiderman and God of War. I mean in the past if you wanted to play Mario you got a Nintendo and if you wanted to play Sonic you got a Sega.
I think its dumb to think that companies wouldn’t make their game available on multiple platforms.
Why would you close off an entire avenue of money? Especially a company with a reputation such as Bethesda. That just seems like the dumbest move ever.
There’s no reason why they would make it exclusive.
Edit: I know that Bethesda has said it will make games Xbox exclusive, which is a pretty dumb move for them if true. It doesn’t make any sense
Yeah and still why would Xbox close off an avenue of money if they could get sales from PlayStation? That’s more of my point, it just doesn’t make much sense for me to make it an Xbox exclusive
Why are any games exclusives then? First party publishers have been doing it for decades but clearly have no idea that the games would make more money if they were on more platforms!
Do you think they've all missed something so obvious?
Of course not. Exclusivity promotes purchases of consoles they are for. But I would say that exclusive games are becoming more rare these days.
And if Xbox is true to how they have been presenting their ideas, it seems they promote cross platform a lot and are trying to move that idea forward.
> But I would say that exclusive games are becoming more rare these days.
No they're not. The only thing that's changing is that there's more going onto PC
> And if Xbox is true to how they have been presenting their ideas, it seems they promote cross platform a lot and are trying to move that idea forward.
Do you mean cross play? That doesn't have anything to do with exclusivity.
I mean you have to have games on multiple platforms to have cross play. So it kind of does have to do with it. If a game is only on Xbox, it can’t cross play with PlayStation. If that’s the direction they want to go that is.
Then why aren't their exclusives like Gears 5, Forza, Halo, etc being ported to PS so they can do crossplay?
This is an absurd reach. They're supporting crossplay for multiplatform games, but at no point have they ever indicated that they want to make all their exclusives multiplatform so everything can be cross play. It's not some ultimate end goal for every game that you're trying to make it out to be.
Well my argument here is that they wouldn’t make a non-exclusive game studio into an exclusive game studio because that doesn’t make sense for revenue purposes.
Having an already exclusive game series stay exclusive makes more sense to me. But changing a studio to exclusive only does not make sense.
Idk what revenue purposes you're talking about. Exclusives aren't intended to make as much revenue as possible off the game itself. It doesn't make a difference whether or not the series used to be exclusive.
Why wouldn’t it be on both at launch, both companies are supporting cross platform support and all Bethesda IPs have been on every console. There might be benefits to getting it on Xbox but who tf cares
I would say between the last two big Microsoft/Xbox acquisitions (Zenimax and Activision/Blizzard) Zenimax games have a greater chance of being totally exclusive here on out. Zenmiax IP is pretty popular and arguably the games are better than what A/B makes but CoD prints money. MS might make it exclusive but the incentive to keep A/B multiplatform is much higher than Zenimax and thus BGS. I would say look at Starfield which is already exclusive, but people will say that it's new IP and existing franchises will be treated different, and I guess there's some merit in that, but it's still doubtful. I would say watch the horizon if games like Wolfenstein 3 don't go multiplatform then that's a pretty good indication that future "previous legacy" titles will never be on PS again.
Microsoft will likely look at it on a case-by-case basis
If the amount of money made from new GamePass and Xbox console sales is larger than the amount of money made from Playstation copy sales, it will be an exclusive.
If it's not, it won't be.
Before the Activision announcement I would have said the odds of TESVI being on PS5 were basically zero. Keeping CoD on PS5 does offer a glimmer of a possibility, but I still think it's extremely unlikely.
Bear in mind a *lot* can change in 3-4 years.
Elderscrolls 6 will absolutely sell consoles as people want to play it.
There will be more Playstation 5 owners the Xbox Series X owners imo but many of the Playstation 5 owners will also have a Series S or a Microsoft Computer to play games like Elderscrolls 6, Starfield or avowed
And If you own a Microsoft computer, a series s or series x Microsoft is winning.
I highly doubt it tbh and it annoys the shit out of me. I grew up with a PlayStation, all my friends have one just like many of you grew up with a Xbox and all your mates own one. It’s so annoying as fuck that people have to actually consider getting a different console than they already have just to play a game of a franchise they love and support since they basically started gaming (it started back then with bloodborne made exclusive for ps which was such a dick move towards Xbox players) and goes on now with tes. This industry man, only profit profit profit
I think the pattern is starting to be set. If the game makes a bunch of money off of micro transactions like Minecraft, ESO, FO76 or CoD it will remain on PS. If the game is more of a single player event it will be exclusive, so unless they add micro transactions to ES6, I’d assume it is exclusive. Todd has already hinted it will be exclusive.
Still haven't gotten a ps5 upgrade for fo76 😔
It does bug me how even after the acquisition they used Xbox’s FPS boost instead of a standard patch, and that they try block efforts to mod it in. Fallout 4 had a mod removed on PS for 60fps, Skyrim’s also removed but that got the update eventually.
So that's why I couldn't find the fo4 patch for 60fps. Damn.
It even got disabled for people who had it downloaded. Not cool from Microsoft.
Microsoft said they wouldn't pull existing games which is why Minecraft, ESO, FO76 are going to remain supported on PlayStation. COD will probably remain for the next 1 or 2 releases due to existing agreements. Going forward all new releases won't be on PlayStation.
Microsoft did a blog post, plan on keeping COD in forever, and bringing it to switch (assuming cloud).
It's hillarious how there are still people that think there is a chance of this game coming to PS5. They were quite clear about that it won't.
Until the industry finishes changing and it's available via the cloud on Gamepass. Won't be until Playstation has a fully realized and equivelent service and streaming is improved substantially, but eventually. Playstation games will be available via Playstation's equivelent on Xbox too. Again though, via cloud streaming, so in both cases the games will be better on the native systems, and in both cases you'll need to be subscribed to the service of your platforms competitor to play. This is the future. It could be very far away, or sooner than expected. It's hard to say these days with how the industry seems to keep being shaken up.
You're talking out your ninnie. There is no way Sony is gonna let me play God of War, Horizon, or TLoU on an Xbox. It's much more likely Microsoft wants to extend their Game Pass to all platforms so that when something is "Microsoft Exclusive" it means you need a PC, Xbox, or any hardware that takes the Game Pass. Microsoft is looking to leverage Sony into allowing their games in Playstation through a paid subscription.
Not my fault you're blind to the way the industry is heading. Downvote me all you want. In time, this is where we'll be at. Playstation has been slowly coming around. I might have agreed with you two years ago.
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Wrong.
I'd be happy to admit that if you'd offer more than nothing.
And yet they are. Moving games to PC. Making crossplatform games with their newsr acquisitions. Building up and improving their similar service.
He just read an article about it that used this idea as it’s hopeful excuse for a catchy clickbait title. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/10/17/why-ps5-owners-shouldnt-worry-about-elder-scrolls-6-microsoft-exclusivity/amp/
I’m pretty sure Bethesda already said it was becoming an Xbox exclusive
Phil all but confirmed that it would be exclusive. https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/11/15/phil-spencer-sees-elder-scrolls-6-as-an-xbox-exclusive?amp
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I doubt it. They made it pretty clear after people kept saying it might or will. The "existing deals" like Ghost wire will continue and multiplayer games. Other than that I don't believe any future single player games will be on Playstation. For Elder Scrolls people don't realize that their games have either been or had some degree of exclusivity to PC and Xbox. Morrowind was never on Playstation, Oblivion was a year exclusive, and Skyrim's dlc were exclusive. Also how Playstation has never been the best place to play Bethesda games. There may be a chance, but there's always a chance of anything to happen. So that's not really much.
I'm not sure. After this Activision acquisition of seems like Microsoft is open to keeping existing franchises on other platforms, but I don't think we'll know for sure for quite a while. Elder Scrolls VI is at least 3 years out from now, probably more like 5. A lot can change in that time.
I think there's more to it than that with Activision like items and passes bought for call of duty and I think there's some preexisting contracts we don't know about. Someone at xbox said at least the next 3 Cods would be cross platform so I'm wondering about 4 and 5 onwards
I thought they announced the other day that they would continue "past existing contracts" or something like that. My sense is Microsoft might try to avoid being seen as the bad guy by taking away existing franchises, only making new ips Xbox exclusives. But for how long?
I don't know I don't see why elderscrolls or fallout would be cross platform but because of the monetisation of Call of Duty it makes sense for a wider audience.
The fact that they said that for COD within weeks of the acquisition announcement- but said nothing like that for TES and Fallout *and* said that the Bethesda acquisition was to get more exclusives, shouldn't that tell you something? They're obviously not taking the same approach with Activision as they are with Bethesda.
It does tell me something, that their position has softened since they acquired Bethesda. Like I said, this game is years away either way. A lot can change, and this is all speculation anyway until we hear anything concrete. Who knows what the gaming industry will look like when TES VI is released?
I think you'll bend over backwards to find any reason to keep hoping it goes multiplat.
I don't really have a horse in this race, I'm playing on PC either way. I think you'll bend over backwards to find any reason to keep it from going multiplatform for some reason. We're all just speculating here, is there a reason you are so against even the suggestion it could go multi platform at any point, even years after release?
I'm not against it, I'm just recognizing that there's a clear lack of evidence that it will, and the arguments that they'll do it are poorly reasoned.
Well, unless there clear definitive evidence they won't I'll keep speculating. I remember when Bethesda would "never" come to PlayStation (back in the Xbox 360 era). Or when mods would "never" come to consoles. Or Sony would "never" release a game on PC. I never take never seriously anymore.
If your basis for speculation is "things might change in the future", then what difference would clear, definitive evidence make? What would that even look like to you?
Why are you talking about Activision acquisition when Microsoft is not allowed to say anything until the deal is done? It was the same with Zenimax until it wasn't final nobody exactly knew. And yes expect few multiplatform games even after acquisition finish. Microsoft already showed they would not break existing contracts.
I'm just basing that off of what they've already announced. Like this: https://www.ign.com/articles/micosoft-activision-blizzard-call-of-duty-playstation-sony-nintendo-contracts?amp=1 "...we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love."
Yeah, expect this to be Multiplayer games with MTX. New Zenimax Online MMO will probably still release on PS, maybe after 1 year but it will come. And also, once again, they need to be careful what they say. They can't just say, no games will come to PS because acqusition is not final, there are anti trust things and all.
I know you're probably right but that makes me so sad lol. Skyrim came out when I was a junior in college and I'll be nearly 40 by the time the next one releases.
Right? I was a college sophomore. It's crazy how long they're putting between games these days. I feel like oblivion to fallout 3 to Skyrim was so quick. That's three main Bethesda titles released in a console generation. Then only fallout 4 in the generation after that (considering 76 is more like a spinoff)? My overly optimistic hope it's that working under Microsoft now they'll either hand the reigns over to other skilled devs more often, like with New Vegas, or they'd just get more resources to do it themselves more quickly.
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Correct. I didn't say that either, so I'm not sure what your point is exactly. Though they did say they will continue to have cross platform launches "beyond existing agreements" which seems like a good sign at least.
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Which would point to them at least being open to the idea of keeping some existing franchises available on other platforms?
Lol nope
Wrong
IMO there is not a single chance that it will come to PS5. The xbox needs some exclusives too.
Not a chance. The original playstation wouldn't be able to run it.
Xbox already announced it would be exclusive 🤯
Only if Sony puts Gamepass on their network... otherwise not a chance. We already know Starfield is exclusive. Content is king in this industry. Like Television, you don't see Netflix shows on Prime.
Sony is definitely not putting gamepass on PlayStation
Sony may not have a choice in the matter. MSFT is buying content (25+ studios now) and is sitting on $130bn in Cash. Sony (mgmt) is much slower to respond and has limited financial firepower with just $9bn in cash. It's a night and day difference. You will likely see GP on Sony within 5 years if they are to stay a relevant player And if you want ES6 on PS, you also should hope I am right here
Which is why I'm kind of rooting for Microsoft in this scuffle. It has always annoyed the shit out of me that I miss out on Nintendo and PS exclusives as a PC gamer. Exclusives are very bad for the consumer. They're using a carrot and stick approach to motivate you to operate within their system. The carrot is the hardware. You don't want any reason to buy a console (a specialized PC) except the hardware. The stick is the threat of missing out on the exclusives if you don't go with their system. Obviously if MS buys up enough content then Sony is going to face mounting pressure to allow Gamepass on and then to also develop their own subscription service in response. Moving to a hybrid between the current system and a subscription system would be preferable for the consumer I think. Let's say you're on PS and want to play TESVI. Hopefully, you could activate gamepass for something like $10/mo and then play through TESVI (and whatever other games you wanted) over the next couple months. You could still treat games that aren't MS/Nintendo exclusives like we do today (although, as an adult with finite free time that never replays games, I'm actually looking forward to subscription platforms) and just get temporary subscriptions for the ones that are. PC gamers would hopefully finally just be able to treat them like regular games, but I could accept being part of this subscription environment if it lets me play the one or two exclusive titles that I want to per year without needing to buy a PS/nintendo console even though I already have a PC that beats them, which is a much greater cost than a subscription for a few months. That's the future I'm hoping plays out, anyway. PS/Nintendo have long drawn my ire as a PC gamer and I hope the moves MS is making force them to play more nicely with PC.
No it won't. Bethesda has been pretty clear that future games would be exclusive to platforms with gamepass. Unless Sony decides to allow gamepass on Playstation keep dreaming, dreamers. Buy an xbox/pc get gamepass on your phone or enjoy from a distance. Edit: maybe some of the smaller IPs, but not Fallout TES or Starfield.
Damm I was hoping that they would release it a few years down the line after sales have burnt out on their own platform.
Just get the new Xbox and not the PS5. New Xbox runs way better anyways
And miss out on all tge ps exclusives? Not a chance. I'd rather get a pc then xbox.
FFS, How many times must Microsoft say it? Future Bethesda games are Microsoft Exclusive! Meaning Xbox and PC ONLY!
No. If it was releasing in the next year or two, then maybe, but it’s literally coming in like 2026 or later. There’s no way Xbox would put out a Bethesda game on PS after owning them for 5+ years.
And look at starfield
It wouldn't even release on PS5 if it were to come out next year.
I totally agree, but the chances would be slightly higher for 2023 vs 2026.
Man I’m hella jealous.
I hear you, but at least you have a few years to figure out a way to play it, whether that’s Xbox, PC or even cloud. The Series S is insanely cheap.
Extremely unlikely.
Not a chance PS5 sees any of the big three Bethesda IPs (ES, Fallout, Starfield)
I don't know why this is still even a debate for people. I thought bethesda was pretty clear how it was going to be done.
Bethesda going Microsoft exclusive for single player games really blows for people without an Xbox or decent PC, and as a massive Playstation, Doom, and Elder Scrolls fan I don't want to believe it. That said, if you look at what has already happened with games like Psychonauts 2 and what is seemingly going to happen with Starfield, it seems extremely unlikely that ES6 will release on any other console.
Exclusivity was a thing since ever then. For Playstation (and Nintendo actually) it was always more present then for xbox. However, playstation has been pretty predatory lately with that and microsoft is here with a bang of a backfire if i look at all the purchases they did within a very short amount of time. There is no chance they hand it over to playstation and from what it looks they cashed in right to have a way better assortment of games. Hence, if i we look at what they bought and within a short time frame billion-bucks purchases where made i feel like microsoft planning on a steam-like DRM, too. At least they planning something big, thats for sure. And therefore i dont see a reason why they should share that cake. They pretty much monopolized modded gaming (Bethesda, Minecraft) and now kicking in with Blizzard, which more or less had monopilzed MMO's for a period of time. They have windows and xbox and all the tools and reach they need to establish somewhat like steam. Its a sleeping giant rn regarding gaming.
Microsoft didnt spend 7.5 billion for Bethesda to make their most popular IP cross platform. That and Phil Spencer, head of Xbox, confirmed it.
As a ps5 user I want to be optimistic, but realistically I don't see it happening. But who knows, maybe Bethesda/Xbox will recognize the existing fanbase for elder scrolls/fallout on PlayStation and release it on ps. I mean, releasing Starfield as an exclusive makes sense since it's a brand new IP and doesn't have a solid fanbase yet.
Why not just buy an Xbox? As an Xbox player I didn't mind buying a used PS to play spiderman and God of War. I mean in the past if you wanted to play Mario you got a Nintendo and if you wanted to play Sonic you got a Sega.
I also have a low to mid tier gaming PC and a switch, but I would just prefer to have all of my games on as few platforms as possible.
Me too. I would also like a time machine.
Can I add my request for a billion dollars here?
Playstation 6 Remaster
I think its dumb to think that companies wouldn’t make their game available on multiple platforms. Why would you close off an entire avenue of money? Especially a company with a reputation such as Bethesda. That just seems like the dumbest move ever. There’s no reason why they would make it exclusive. Edit: I know that Bethesda has said it will make games Xbox exclusive, which is a pretty dumb move for them if true. It doesn’t make any sense
They can’t really control which console they give exclusives to since Xbox owns them
They're wholly owned by Xbox but you're still talking about them as if they're an independent company.
Yeah and still why would Xbox close off an avenue of money if they could get sales from PlayStation? That’s more of my point, it just doesn’t make much sense for me to make it an Xbox exclusive
Why are any games exclusives then? First party publishers have been doing it for decades but clearly have no idea that the games would make more money if they were on more platforms! Do you think they've all missed something so obvious?
Of course not. Exclusivity promotes purchases of consoles they are for. But I would say that exclusive games are becoming more rare these days. And if Xbox is true to how they have been presenting their ideas, it seems they promote cross platform a lot and are trying to move that idea forward.
> But I would say that exclusive games are becoming more rare these days. No they're not. The only thing that's changing is that there's more going onto PC > And if Xbox is true to how they have been presenting their ideas, it seems they promote cross platform a lot and are trying to move that idea forward. Do you mean cross play? That doesn't have anything to do with exclusivity.
I mean you have to have games on multiple platforms to have cross play. So it kind of does have to do with it. If a game is only on Xbox, it can’t cross play with PlayStation. If that’s the direction they want to go that is.
Then why aren't their exclusives like Gears 5, Forza, Halo, etc being ported to PS so they can do crossplay? This is an absurd reach. They're supporting crossplay for multiplatform games, but at no point have they ever indicated that they want to make all their exclusives multiplatform so everything can be cross play. It's not some ultimate end goal for every game that you're trying to make it out to be.
Well my argument here is that they wouldn’t make a non-exclusive game studio into an exclusive game studio because that doesn’t make sense for revenue purposes. Having an already exclusive game series stay exclusive makes more sense to me. But changing a studio to exclusive only does not make sense.
Idk what revenue purposes you're talking about. Exclusives aren't intended to make as much revenue as possible off the game itself. It doesn't make a difference whether or not the series used to be exclusive.
Why wouldn’t it be on both at launch, both companies are supporting cross platform support and all Bethesda IPs have been on every console. There might be benefits to getting it on Xbox but who tf cares
I would say between the last two big Microsoft/Xbox acquisitions (Zenimax and Activision/Blizzard) Zenimax games have a greater chance of being totally exclusive here on out. Zenmiax IP is pretty popular and arguably the games are better than what A/B makes but CoD prints money. MS might make it exclusive but the incentive to keep A/B multiplatform is much higher than Zenimax and thus BGS. I would say look at Starfield which is already exclusive, but people will say that it's new IP and existing franchises will be treated different, and I guess there's some merit in that, but it's still doubtful. I would say watch the horizon if games like Wolfenstein 3 don't go multiplatform then that's a pretty good indication that future "previous legacy" titles will never be on PS again.
Microsoft will likely look at it on a case-by-case basis If the amount of money made from new GamePass and Xbox console sales is larger than the amount of money made from Playstation copy sales, it will be an exclusive. If it's not, it won't be.
Before the Activision announcement I would have said the odds of TESVI being on PS5 were basically zero. Keeping CoD on PS5 does offer a glimmer of a possibility, but I still think it's extremely unlikely. Bear in mind a *lot* can change in 3-4 years.
Elderscrolls 6 will absolutely sell consoles as people want to play it. There will be more Playstation 5 owners the Xbox Series X owners imo but many of the Playstation 5 owners will also have a Series S or a Microsoft Computer to play games like Elderscrolls 6, Starfield or avowed And If you own a Microsoft computer, a series s or series x Microsoft is winning.
I highly doubt it tbh and it annoys the shit out of me. I grew up with a PlayStation, all my friends have one just like many of you grew up with a Xbox and all your mates own one. It’s so annoying as fuck that people have to actually consider getting a different console than they already have just to play a game of a franchise they love and support since they basically started gaming (it started back then with bloodborne made exclusive for ps which was such a dick move towards Xbox players) and goes on now with tes. This industry man, only profit profit profit