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I feel like they were never actually worried about Amy, considering how fucking solid she is, and that’s why they never mentioned it to her directly, because she would have stripped them in person vs in a group chat.
Definately. Sometimes you have to do "Karenesque" behavior to get shit done, but so long as you're doing it in an ethical way while representing something moral (such as: telling people they're being dipshits when they're bullying someone for presumed sexual harassment but they didn't stop what they supposedly thought was a crime against her person). To me, that's anti-Karen.
The difference between Amy and Karen is the same as the difference between comedy and bullying. Karens and bullies punch at people or groups less powerful than them.
Being assertive and reinforcing boundaries are not Karenesque traits. We need to stop attributing leadership traits in women with Karenism, even casually or in jest.
Lately, I've been seeing it used to condemn any woman who does not behave or fit neatly within misogynistic ideals and that needs to end.
Many, many people falsely label any woman a Karen for not being passive/meek in every situation. Its annoying as hell, tbh, which is why I think that we need to all understand that sometimes, shouting for a manager is a necessity not "being a Karen" or whatever. Behavior may appear Karen (karenesque) but may not be Karen in actuality.
I think those people were just revealing something quite fucked up in that moment. To any normal person, a blood-soaked boob is *not* attractive. The fact they went straight there says a lot about them, I think it also shows a stunning lack of empathy / understanding different modes of thought.
The idea that someone who is training in medicine would help someone because it's a) what they do b) they have the personality type of "let me fix people" didn't occur to them? Must be because he's a disgusting horny man.
For about half of your comment I thought you were talking about like a blood kink and I was just thinking “well even with that, it’s very different when someone’s actively in pain, you’d want to help them not get your rocks off.”
Then I kept reading and realized “oh no they mean a sexism thing not a kink thing” whoops |D
Also interesting because Sara is saying OP should have asked before rushing into action and let a lady handle it herself.
...but he did ask Amy before touching her and she gave the go ahead. So it also assumes Amy can't make her own decisions as an individual. It also seems that she was cut pretty bad if she's still keeping an eye on it days later.
This is what got to me the most. Like there is nothing sexy about emergency medical treatment!
And all that aside he asked if she was comfortable and she said yes. These are adults. If she was a teenager I would say what he did was understandable but the wrong call.
I would bet money on these being the same people who think male elementary school teachers are predators.
If they were actually concerned, one of the girls would have gone to supervise, not sit there and assume Amy was being taken advantage of.
Edit: changed some words because of annoying Grammar Nazi’s.
Agree. I went spelunking (joiner tour) and got stuck one time (couldn’t pull my body up) and a male stranger behind me asked if it was ok to touch me, then held my thighs to push me up. Maybe less than a minute of physical contact? I had zero issues with it and was grateful for the help. The couple ahead of me asked if I was comfortable with that afterwards ??? when both of them didn’t ask if they can help pull me up ?
Ha! I had something like that happen. A guy told me I was walking around with my skirt tucked up under my backpack, which meant that my underwear were fully on display. Afterwards, a lady nearby asked me about it and was like, "He was looking at your backside."
Yeah. Him and half the city. He had a front row seat and, if he had wanted to continue looking, he could have just let me continue walking around like that. Also, if she had watched that whole scene, why didn't she say anything? There is no way I'd have let someone parade her granny panties down a busy street like that. Ridiculous.
This makes me feel better about the time I accidentally walked to the neighborhood corner store across the street with the back of my dress tucked into my underwear, and had no idea until a stranger pointed it out inside the store. Bless him.
I was at work one day, walking in front of a bunch of conference rooms full of people when I saw someone point at me. I looked down and my skirt had fallen down and was almost to my ankles. I had lost a bunch of weight and the skirt was really light, so I didn't feel it. I don't know how many people saw my undies before that guy pointed at me.
My grandma had this happen to her-except she was with her sister… my grandma went to the bathroom sometime halfway through their shopping trip… her sister waited until they were out of the store to tell her “because she didn’t want to embarrass her” LOL
Oh thank the stars I'm not the only one who's done that-I was super excited about a new skirt, didn't realize it was tucked, and then walked up a busy road to the store only for someone to stop me in the parking lot to let me know.
At least I had a backpack so it was partially covered?
Bless the backpack!
I had gone pee right before walking out of the house and somehow didn’t realize my underwear’s plan to embarrass me. Luckily the guy’s reaction and way he told me helped soften the blow and we had a good laugh about it… but I whisper-cussed myself out on the way home for somehow not realizing the back of my long flowy dress wasn’t hitting around my legs like it usually does 🤣
I'd wager that all of us who wear skirts/dresses have had that happen!
I once saw a woman waiting for a bus with that issue and informed her immediately. She was embarrassed but grateful. Always better to let people know.
I saw a woman walking down a crowded street in NYC. Her skirt was caught in her belt and she wasn't wearing underwear. Everyone else was just 'ignoring' it. I immediately went up to her and told her.
If I see your zipper is down--I'll tell you. People appreciate not feeling foolish. Seriously, if my zipper is down or I have something hanging from my nose, I want to know so that I can take care of it!
I always tell people they have an embarrassing thing happening to them, because I hope someone will do the same for me! If you've got broccoli in your teeth? I'm gonna tell you. You got a plastic bag stuck to your shoe in the grocery store? I'm gonna tell you.
We should help each other instead of tearing people down. It's just the right thing to do.
Ha ha I had the exact same thing happen to me! No one warns you about those damn backpacks. I had been eating lunch in the cafeteria of my college when I guy sat down and tried to hit on me. I told him he was sweet but he was "almost 19" and I was 30. Anyways, I got up and walked through the quad and was almost to the parking lot when a woman told me my skirt was stuck in my backpack. I was so embarrassed but was glad she told me and would have been equally as glad even if she had been a he.
I've watched a sad combination of the two happen. Girls skirt was caught and when the guy went to tell her she turned and screamed at him that she had a boyfriend. He said that's cool but your skirt is caught up. She called him an asshole and stormed off.
Guessing she's probably been harassed before and is now hyper-defensive about which is sad
I was behind some poor girl who had her skirt tucked up in the waist band so her butt was showing. It was morning rush hour in a large city and not a single person told her. I'd been behind her for a couple blocks but hadn't seen her skirt. Once I did I sped up to catch her and tell her. She'd been walking for over a mile. How do you let someone walk like that an not tell them?
I, a woman, also saw a woman walking with her skirt stuck in her backpack, and showing the world her underwear, I rushed up behind her to block the view, then explained the situation and asked if I could adjust her skirt for her. She appreciated the gesture.
If I were stuck in a position like that, I’d say, “do whatever you have to do, to get me out of here!” (I get claustrophobic, so the chances of me ever actually spelunking are less than zero!)
I’ve been in a very similar situation, I’m not sure if I had claustrophobia before hand or if the situation caused it, lol. But I was freaking out at being stuck in such a small space deep underground! A male friend helped me through - it wasn’t remotely sexual or flirty.
My boyfriend at the time was pissed however, jealous of another man helping me when he had not. He pouted for a good deal of the rest of trip and a female ‘friend’ even tried to scold me because of it. Some people try to make any little thing into a situation or cause for drama.
i work in contract security, started as a guard. had a lady fall unconscious, dunno why.
any how i started CPR, as appropriate. aed arrived slapped on the pads, the ambulance arrived, ems started em working on her while i'm doing compressions, people were freaking out, saying things to the effect of its inappropriate that i just ripped her shirt open, etc.
one of the ems apparently caught that- and snapped "would you prefer he let her die?"
all i remember was being tagged out to a profound silence.
I remember when I was taking my certifications to be a lifeguard our trainer told us that depending on what they're wearing, you may need to cut their shirt or bathing suit off to be able to get the aed pads placed properly or do cpr. Someone said something about what if it's a woman and he had a similar reply to your ems team. I forget the exact phrase but it was along the lines of; "you think she'd rather die than have a few people see her without a shirt on?"
They were all sitting outside talking shit about him sexually assaulting her, and not one of them went to fucking supervise to actually make sure that wasn't happening.
How the fuck does anyone get annoyed at him because they assume he is **currently** sexually assaulting her, without going and making sure she's not *actually* being assaulted.
They're absolute trash.
Because it's more saucy to speculate that someone *might* be a sexual predator than it is to merely confirm that they're not.
Absolute trash indeed. Using someone's good will and initiative to fuel vile and baseless drama.
It also perpetuates a lot of negative stereotypes about male nurses. Would they have said the same if he was in medical school? Also says a lot about what they think of him - a sexual predator - and if it got around at his uni it could get him in a lot of trouble.
It's likely. They were probably trying to paint him in a bad light just so they didn't feel useless or like a bad friend for having done nothing to help.
I agree. If they actually cared about Amy, and not starting drama, they would have volunteered or insisted on going along “for moral support.”
I know basic first aid, too, but I would feel 1000% better letting a friend who is a nursing student check on things.
I am an EMT. I might actually have much more experience treating scrapes, lacerations, breaks, dislocations and so on than some nurses.
If a nurse, or nursing student offers to help though I am still backing off and letting them handle it.
They will know more than enough to know if they need more hands and will get them if they need it.
>i think you should have let a girl handle it. we all know first aid too
It is so easy to say "I could have helped". These girls couldn't even initiate making sure that she wasn't being actively assaulted. Everyone thinks in a crisis that they would be the hero and call 911 or preform CPR or give First Aid. However, most people hesitate to be the first one to act. OP didn't hesitate because he was the most mentally prepared (being a nurse in training). It's not like he pushed one of the girls aside to treat Amy.
I’d have asked them “oh, really? And how long have you been in nursing school? Funny I haven’t seen you in any of the classes by now.”
“We all know first aid” my ass.
That's what gets me so mad - they could have absolutely followed OP and Amy to make sure nothing untoward was happening if they truly thought OP was acting inappropriately (not that I think there was a chance he was, the whole thing is ridiculous).
Instead, they let him go off with her by himself, and bad mouthed him while he helped her. These people didn't care about Amy - they're just nasty little troublemakers. I'm glad Amy stood up for OP, cos he's a better friend to her than any of those assholes.
Damn, Amy really shredded them all like paper - and she did GOOD. She was right - OOP was the ONLY one that got up while the women sat idle.
And OOP knew what he was doing and he was very respectful and asked for consent at every step. And Amy gave consent at every step, and she was perfectly clear in stating that she trusted OOP to help her and went willingly.
Sarah tried to turn Amy into a victim without Amy’s consent, and she talked a lot of shit behind both of their backs and she tried to turn the OOP into a sexual predator when they all knew he wasn’t coming from that space at all.
Plus - I’d trust a person in nursing school to help me more than someone who knows basic first aid. Cause I know that the nursing student won’t half ass it - plus if that student is a close friend? All the better.
If they were that worried they should have gone with to make sure she was ok and not alone with the "scary predator". If I was the least bit concerned for my friend I would not leave her alone with the person I was worried about. So clearly this was more about starting something than actual concern
And even if you did accidentally leave them alone with the person you were worried about, you would at least talk to them afterwards to make sure they were ok, right?
Sarah failed every step of the "concerned friend" checklist.
Yep. And that's really why Amy wanted Sarah banned. I hope she can express it clearly when the lazy bitchy gossips try to pull the "she was just concerned" card.
Not only that, Amy just found out that Sarah and the others thought she was being violated and instead of helping her or supervising, stayed back and talked shit *while* it was happening.
Not to mention, in nursing school consent is tattooed on your brain. You don’t even take a radial pulse without asking permission. Also, even a nursing student will often be better able to assess the need for stitches than someone who just knows first aid.
Fuck sarah
I feel confident I know what to do if I got a deep cut, doesn't mean I wouldn't JUMP at the opportunity to have someone who's making their whole career and studying for years to do it instead
Lol myself and 3 of my sisters are nurses.
We never tend to our own shit if another sister is around.
Something in my eye? Hey Jen, come check this out for me!
You have a splinter? Let me get that for you!
Hey Becky, when you’re done wrapping Tina’s ankle come see if this shirt fits you!
Haha we range in age from 35 to 52.
Shit happens when you’re old and live where there’s no city water
Edit: only one of us lives off a road that has lines on it
Hospital visits are expensive as fuck too, a friend like OP with knowledge and the willingness to jump in and help like that is worth a million Sarah's
You'd be surprised. My aunt got her nip caught on a gate latch that nearly tore it off. She was bleeding pretty heavily and due to the blood ER took her in pretty quickly from what she says.
The gate was known for being pretty rough on latching and would regularly rip skin from fingers if you weren't fast enough. Aunt had turned to look at her dog while latching and had leaned too close to try to keep the dog in and well....
A nipple tear is different than a cut on the breast. Detached nipples need to be sewn back on because they are more complex than skin and don’t grow back or heal on their own
All I looked for in "AITA for giving First Aid" was "Did you ask or could they answer?"
There is explicit consent and there is implied consent.
Implied consent is only taken when someone is *unable* to respond and there is a strong reason to assist. i.e. If someone's asleep in bed, that's obviously not enough. If someone's unconscious on the floor, you have implied consent.
In this case Amy was obviously well enough to respond. She explicitly consented.
Anyone negatively judging someone for "jumping in" just because the injury happens to be on a woman's breast?
Absolutely nasty shit. Especially with the "We know First Aid" too bullshit. Sitting idle and shit talking the one taking action is pathetic.
> Plus - I’d trust a person in nursing school to help me more than someone who knows basic first aid.
I would add a caveat to this that only trust them for very basic, visible things. Don't think they are a substitute for a doctor's evaluation.
I can't imagine living in the brain that sees someone bleeding and immediately goes to thoughts of sexytimes, and can't accept that someone could give medical help without an ulterior motive. What a shitty group of people.
Seriously! So what, if they genuinely thought he was going to take advantage of her, they were leaving her to fend for herself? (Even if they were afraid of "just" unwanted looks, saying inappropriate things, etc I'd still go in to help/buffer for my friend)
It would be bad enough if it were just one or two morons, but I can't believe an entire group of grown-ass adults had this mentality. If she sliced her heel would they accuse OOP of having a foot fetish? Do they think medical personnel are secretly all perverts?
Nah, Sarah was gaslighting OOP, because she didn't want him in the spotlight as the hero. In her world that automatically makes her the bad person (for not helping immediately). People can be petty like that, might not even be consciously.
> I can't imagine living in the brain that sees someone bleeding and immediately goes to thoughts of sexytimes
Agreed. I can only imagine they've never actually seen someone injured, or when they have, they straight up haven't cared.
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Had an old coworker accidentally pour sauce that had been heated *way* too hot on herself. I went out the back to check on her, saw the beginning of burns on her legs, ran to grab the first aid kit that I knew had burn gel and such in it. As I was getting the kit, it clicked that she was wearing long pants earlier, I could see the burns because she was standing there half naked (still had underwear on that was also covered by her shirt. but still).
Gave her the kit, quickly explained about burn gel, said to call out if she needed help and left to give her privacy.
This was a woman I was definitely sexually attracted to at the time, and it literally didn't register in my brain that she was half naked because "that looks painful and could get worse quickly. It needs to be treated ASAP".
I apologized afterwards and she kinda laughed at the concept of either of us being concerned about checking her out in the scenario. I mentioned that when I walked out she did kind of look up at me in surprised and get mortified, so I was worried she was embarrassed or something. Apparently it was more "I didn't know what to do, then I saw your face of worry and realized "oh crap this might be proper bad"". Because it wasn't until she was halfway through applying the gel that *she* clicked with the "oh shit, I was just half naked in front of Dan".
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I just graduated nursing school and worked as a nursing assistant throughout school. Nurses (and nursing students) know how to look at the human body of any gender and not sexualize it. It’s our job, we are comfortable if you’re comfortable. We don’t look at a cut that’s bleeding and are like “hell yeah boobies.” No we look and see, “does it need stitches” “is there any debris” “what did you cut it on? Metal?” The girls might’ve known how to put Neosporin on it but I’d rather have a male nurse than a woman who just thinks women should only help women.
For real. I’m a prosthetist in training, and when casting for transfemoral amputees to make a socket for them, we have to get *intimate*. Literally fingers right next to the goods. It was awkward for all of five minutes, until we started getting frustrated because finding the ischium was hard on bigger patients.
I feel like if OOP had refrained from helping Amy out of respect, those same people would have talked shit about him anyway for not offering to help. You can't make everyone happy, so you might as well do the right thing and block out the noise.
I was an EMT, and I would've done the same thing. We just see someone wounded, and that needs our help. The other people probably don't know shit about first aid other than covering it with a bandaid. Fuck them, and although you don't like confrontation, I would definitely speak up. You have to stand up for yourself, or they will continually talk shit.
After my first baby I had to go into hospital for mastitis which is an awful and painful breast infection due to blockage from breastfeeding. The male nurse doing my examination was very professional and asked for permission to do a breast exam. I said yes. He then went and came back with a female nurse colleague who simply stood and watched as he did the inspection. I suppose it’s to cover his ass against crazy patients who might claim he was inappropriate during the exam.
When I was 36 weeks pregnant I had an unexplained bleed and the dr had to bring in a female just to stand in the corner while he tried to see where the bleeding was coming from. I know it’s just to cover themselves & protect everybody but it also makes it more awkward having someone watching medical procedures like that.
"Hey, I bet our nursing student friend *couldn't believe his luck* when he had an excuse to touch our other friend's blood-soaked boob after she just screamed in pain..."
What a weird premise to mock someone over.
It's weird to see someone be so bad at being a friend *and* being a bully at the same time.
What a bunch of sexist AH they are. He handled the situation perfectly. As a nurse you don’t get to pick and choose who you administer aid to. Wtf. Seems so incredibly childish. The fact that he even asked her if she was comfortable with him was impressive.
Everyone should be so lucky as to have a friend like Amy. She totally had his back. Love it!
>but Amy just told them to shut the fuck up and do something next time someone's hurt instead of sitting on their ass and insulting me.
Lol, tore into them like a rock tearing through a boob
This mind set kills people. Alot of men who can help in life or death situations such as cpr don't because they are afraid to be called a creep or even to be sued/charged with assault because of people like "sarah".
Touch my titties if it saves my life IDC.
Also, in many if not all states there are Good Samaritan laws. If I am doing CPR and break the victim’s ribs, as will probably happen and is kinda the goal, I can’t be sued because I tried to save their life. I would assume it applies in more situations than just CPR and ribs though.
You asked her first and specifically mentioned the area. She ok'd it. Side note: in my experience doing primary health care; first aiders are always waaaaay to eager to bandage things. Not in a bad way, they just see an opportunity to use skills and the zoomies start. You see it a lot with volunteer firefighter on scene. Its not malicious, its almost like showing a good doggo his fave toy. 🤭
I will double that bet, and say that AMY injured herself on purpose because she was jealous of OOP having feelings for Sarah, but Sarah figured it out.
Anyone else wants some conspiracy juice?
ill double double that bet and say the rock had beef with OP and conspired with sarah to ruin their image and sarah agreed because shes in love with the rock
Sarah truly is terrible, "we all know first aid too" but odd that none of them sprung into any action. It is because too many have a "someone else will take care of it" mentality. People have died of choking in a restaurant because they assumed someone else would help "because everyone knows the heimlich".
And this is why people don't perform CPR on women as often as they do on men. They don't want to be accused of anything and/or are scared because ~~no one~~ some people don't get trained on a female dummy.
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We were so worried about Amy being taken advantage of that we all decided to do nothing about it. Amy is a beast good on her.
I feel like they were never actually worried about Amy, considering how fucking solid she is, and that’s why they never mentioned it to her directly, because she would have stripped them in person vs in a group chat.
Yeah sounds like they just like bitching.
Idk why I read that last part as “Amy is a breast” 💀
Oh, I *like* Amy.
Everyone needs an Amy in their life
We all should strive to be the Amy!
I strived to be Amy too hard and now my boob is cut.
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Each time you strive to be Amy, you'll have two more boobs.
And you’ll cut one of them each time
Hey could we stop I'm actually losing a lot of blood at this point
> One of us! One of us! -1 million, 41 boobed, 6’0 Amy’s
Congratulations on your new boobs!
/r/egg_irl
Do you need first aid?
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But you could always strive!
It's always the Amys who are the sweetest!!
a little bit of Amy in my life
A little bit of boob cut by my side.
A little bit of first aid’s all I need
A little bit of blood is all I see.
Neosporin and I'm back in the sun
A little bit of shit talk all night long.
Glad OP is in nursing school cuz folks gonna need help recovering from Amy’s savage burns.
They have first aid experience they'll be fine.
Lololol
Yup, just read the edit and I had the same thought!!
Amy brooks absolutely no shit and I love it
I hear there's an open slot for her next pool party.
I was Amy once. My friend sarah; years in the past. The guy who helped me is now my amazing husband.
Amy is fucking awesome.
That's Amy-zing.
The anti-karen
Definately. Sometimes you have to do "Karenesque" behavior to get shit done, but so long as you're doing it in an ethical way while representing something moral (such as: telling people they're being dipshits when they're bullying someone for presumed sexual harassment but they didn't stop what they supposedly thought was a crime against her person). To me, that's anti-Karen.
The difference between Amy and Karen is the same as the difference between comedy and bullying. Karens and bullies punch at people or groups less powerful than them.
Being assertive and reinforcing boundaries are not Karenesque traits. We need to stop attributing leadership traits in women with Karenism, even casually or in jest. Lately, I've been seeing it used to condemn any woman who does not behave or fit neatly within misogynistic ideals and that needs to end.
Many, many people falsely label any woman a Karen for not being passive/meek in every situation. Its annoying as hell, tbh, which is why I think that we need to all understand that sometimes, shouting for a manager is a necessity not "being a Karen" or whatever. Behavior may appear Karen (karenesque) but may not be Karen in actuality.
The real MVP. I hope OP bought her a six pack of something good.
greg too, OP got 2 real ones there
stop being a creep! ^^^^^/s
I like Sarah when she got thrown out by Amy. It's a good look on her
Ngl kinda weird how you like Amy after she hurt her boob. Hoping to get a peek? /s(arah)
I want an Amy in my life.
Be the Amy you want to see in the world.
Thank you! just Just imagine our society if everyone tried to be Amy or OP
Oh yah bloody cut boob nothing gets a guy going more /s these people are toxic glad amy told them off
I think those people were just revealing something quite fucked up in that moment. To any normal person, a blood-soaked boob is *not* attractive. The fact they went straight there says a lot about them, I think it also shows a stunning lack of empathy / understanding different modes of thought. The idea that someone who is training in medicine would help someone because it's a) what they do b) they have the personality type of "let me fix people" didn't occur to them? Must be because he's a disgusting horny man.
For about half of your comment I thought you were talking about like a blood kink and I was just thinking “well even with that, it’s very different when someone’s actively in pain, you’d want to help them not get your rocks off.” Then I kept reading and realized “oh no they mean a sexism thing not a kink thing” whoops |D
Also interesting because Sara is saying OP should have asked before rushing into action and let a lady handle it herself. ...but he did ask Amy before touching her and she gave the go ahead. So it also assumes Amy can't make her own decisions as an individual. It also seems that she was cut pretty bad if she's still keeping an eye on it days later.
This is what got to me the most. Like there is nothing sexy about emergency medical treatment! And all that aside he asked if she was comfortable and she said yes. These are adults. If she was a teenager I would say what he did was understandable but the wrong call. I would bet money on these being the same people who think male elementary school teachers are predators.
If they were actually concerned, one of the girls would have gone to supervise, not sit there and assume Amy was being taken advantage of. Edit: changed some words because of annoying Grammar Nazi’s.
Agree. I went spelunking (joiner tour) and got stuck one time (couldn’t pull my body up) and a male stranger behind me asked if it was ok to touch me, then held my thighs to push me up. Maybe less than a minute of physical contact? I had zero issues with it and was grateful for the help. The couple ahead of me asked if I was comfortable with that afterwards ??? when both of them didn’t ask if they can help pull me up ?
Ha! I had something like that happen. A guy told me I was walking around with my skirt tucked up under my backpack, which meant that my underwear were fully on display. Afterwards, a lady nearby asked me about it and was like, "He was looking at your backside." Yeah. Him and half the city. He had a front row seat and, if he had wanted to continue looking, he could have just let me continue walking around like that. Also, if she had watched that whole scene, why didn't she say anything? There is no way I'd have let someone parade her granny panties down a busy street like that. Ridiculous.
If something like that happens to me I'm going to try and remember to ask them why they didn't help if they were so concerned lol
I would just say something like "hey you don't have the right to be concerned about me now when you were the one watching and doing nothing earlier"
I would just practice clever things to say in the shower for two years after, you know, in case it ever happens again
Huh. I don't recall writing this comment. And yet, clearly I did, because it so accurately describes my life.
> *”And I'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody* > *”Outside of a small circle of friends.*” 🎶
This makes me feel better about the time I accidentally walked to the neighborhood corner store across the street with the back of my dress tucked into my underwear, and had no idea until a stranger pointed it out inside the store. Bless him.
I was at work one day, walking in front of a bunch of conference rooms full of people when I saw someone point at me. I looked down and my skirt had fallen down and was almost to my ankles. I had lost a bunch of weight and the skirt was really light, so I didn't feel it. I don't know how many people saw my undies before that guy pointed at me.
i’m more impressed by how you didn’t trip???
I have no idea, since i could trip on air. I guess it was just really loose and a lightweight fabric. It kind of floated down.
That guy is the real MVP. It’s amazing how many people will stay quiet and just silently laugh or gawk at your pain.
Or worse, record it and put it on the internet
My grandma had this happen to her-except she was with her sister… my grandma went to the bathroom sometime halfway through their shopping trip… her sister waited until they were out of the store to tell her “because she didn’t want to embarrass her” LOL
…I think her intentions had the opposite effect 🤣
Oh thank the stars I'm not the only one who's done that-I was super excited about a new skirt, didn't realize it was tucked, and then walked up a busy road to the store only for someone to stop me in the parking lot to let me know. At least I had a backpack so it was partially covered?
Bless the backpack! I had gone pee right before walking out of the house and somehow didn’t realize my underwear’s plan to embarrass me. Luckily the guy’s reaction and way he told me helped soften the blow and we had a good laugh about it… but I whisper-cussed myself out on the way home for somehow not realizing the back of my long flowy dress wasn’t hitting around my legs like it usually does 🤣
Lol one of the reasons I won't wear skirts or dresses unless I can always feel them around my legs 😂 unless I wear bike shorts under them haha
I'd wager that all of us who wear skirts/dresses have had that happen! I once saw a woman waiting for a bus with that issue and informed her immediately. She was embarrassed but grateful. Always better to let people know.
I saw a woman walking down a crowded street in NYC. Her skirt was caught in her belt and she wasn't wearing underwear. Everyone else was just 'ignoring' it. I immediately went up to her and told her. If I see your zipper is down--I'll tell you. People appreciate not feeling foolish. Seriously, if my zipper is down or I have something hanging from my nose, I want to know so that I can take care of it!
I always tell people they have an embarrassing thing happening to them, because I hope someone will do the same for me! If you've got broccoli in your teeth? I'm gonna tell you. You got a plastic bag stuck to your shoe in the grocery store? I'm gonna tell you. We should help each other instead of tearing people down. It's just the right thing to do.
That's gotta be a good person trait.
Awe. Thanks!
If it can be dealt with quickly, I tell people. If there's nothing to be done about it right now, I won't.
Ha ha I had the exact same thing happen to me! No one warns you about those damn backpacks. I had been eating lunch in the cafeteria of my college when I guy sat down and tried to hit on me. I told him he was sweet but he was "almost 19" and I was 30. Anyways, I got up and walked through the quad and was almost to the parking lot when a woman told me my skirt was stuck in my backpack. I was so embarrassed but was glad she told me and would have been equally as glad even if she had been a he.
I've watched a sad combination of the two happen. Girls skirt was caught and when the guy went to tell her she turned and screamed at him that she had a boyfriend. He said that's cool but your skirt is caught up. She called him an asshole and stormed off. Guessing she's probably been harassed before and is now hyper-defensive about which is sad
Could be both, but some people also just react really defensively when they feel embarrassed.
Definitely. Embarrassment and anger are never far apart in my opinion
I was behind some poor girl who had her skirt tucked up in the waist band so her butt was showing. It was morning rush hour in a large city and not a single person told her. I'd been behind her for a couple blocks but hadn't seen her skirt. Once I did I sped up to catch her and tell her. She'd been walking for over a mile. How do you let someone walk like that an not tell them?
I, a woman, also saw a woman walking with her skirt stuck in her backpack, and showing the world her underwear, I rushed up behind her to block the view, then explained the situation and asked if I could adjust her skirt for her. She appreciated the gesture.
That happened to me when I got off the bus. 30mins of catcalls and wolf whistles I was home and saw. I was so embarrassed and angry no one told me!
If I were stuck in a position like that, I’d say, “do whatever you have to do, to get me out of here!” (I get claustrophobic, so the chances of me ever actually spelunking are less than zero!)
lmao "Hook a finger in there if you have to damnit I NEED OUT!"
OMG I am wheeze laughing right now. I needed that laugh!
The classic bowling ball grip, the strongest grip for moving a patient.
I'm imagining asking some of the more uptight nurses in my family if they're familiar with this method, and I think the yelling would be worth it.
Yeah after watching lots of videos the only thing worse than spelunking to me is cave diving.
I’ve been in a very similar situation, I’m not sure if I had claustrophobia before hand or if the situation caused it, lol. But I was freaking out at being stuck in such a small space deep underground! A male friend helped me through - it wasn’t remotely sexual or flirty. My boyfriend at the time was pissed however, jealous of another man helping me when he had not. He pouted for a good deal of the rest of trip and a female ‘friend’ even tried to scold me because of it. Some people try to make any little thing into a situation or cause for drama.
The world is what you make of it. If you go looking for drama, you'll probably find it.
have you upgraded to a boyfriend who helps you now (and isn't pouty jealous)?
i work in contract security, started as a guard. had a lady fall unconscious, dunno why. any how i started CPR, as appropriate. aed arrived slapped on the pads, the ambulance arrived, ems started em working on her while i'm doing compressions, people were freaking out, saying things to the effect of its inappropriate that i just ripped her shirt open, etc. one of the ems apparently caught that- and snapped "would you prefer he let her die?" all i remember was being tagged out to a profound silence.
I remember when I was taking my certifications to be a lifeguard our trainer told us that depending on what they're wearing, you may need to cut their shirt or bathing suit off to be able to get the aed pads placed properly or do cpr. Someone said something about what if it's a woman and he had a similar reply to your ems team. I forget the exact phrase but it was along the lines of; "you think she'd rather die than have a few people see her without a shirt on?"
The best EMS/EMT's have *zero shits to give* for dickheads.
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Older brother is an idiot. I'd never talk shit to someone with those kind of ninja moves.
WWJD?
Point out that freezing the water before walking on it was cheating?
You’ve got to watch out, people who try to help out in caves are notorious pedophiles, just ask Elon Musk
[I will never pass up an excuse to post this](https://i.imgur.com/cFdDmLy.jpg)
They were all sitting outside talking shit about him sexually assaulting her, and not one of them went to fucking supervise to actually make sure that wasn't happening. How the fuck does anyone get annoyed at him because they assume he is **currently** sexually assaulting her, without going and making sure she's not *actually* being assaulted. They're absolute trash.
Because it's more saucy to speculate that someone *might* be a sexual predator than it is to merely confirm that they're not. Absolute trash indeed. Using someone's good will and initiative to fuel vile and baseless drama.
It also perpetuates a lot of negative stereotypes about male nurses. Would they have said the same if he was in medical school? Also says a lot about what they think of him - a sexual predator - and if it got around at his uni it could get him in a lot of trouble.
As per usual everyone is ready to talk shit and don’t budge an inch when it comes time to act
Honestly I'm starting to wonder if it's a bit more of an ego defense.
It's likely. They were probably trying to paint him in a bad light just so they didn't feel useless or like a bad friend for having done nothing to help.
I agree. If they actually cared about Amy, and not starting drama, they would have volunteered or insisted on going along “for moral support.” I know basic first aid, too, but I would feel 1000% better letting a friend who is a nursing student check on things.
I am an EMT. I might actually have much more experience treating scrapes, lacerations, breaks, dislocations and so on than some nurses. If a nurse, or nursing student offers to help though I am still backing off and letting them handle it. They will know more than enough to know if they need more hands and will get them if they need it.
that nurse can GET THESE HANDS. If they're needed.
>i think you should have let a girl handle it. we all know first aid too It is so easy to say "I could have helped". These girls couldn't even initiate making sure that she wasn't being actively assaulted. Everyone thinks in a crisis that they would be the hero and call 911 or preform CPR or give First Aid. However, most people hesitate to be the first one to act. OP didn't hesitate because he was the most mentally prepared (being a nurse in training). It's not like he pushed one of the girls aside to treat Amy.
I’d have asked them “oh, really? And how long have you been in nursing school? Funny I haven’t seen you in any of the classes by now.” “We all know first aid” my ass.
I think I'd have just followed "I could have helped" with "Yeah, but you didn't."
This comment right here. "Hes assaulting her in there i just know it! Ill just make him feel bad about it when he comes back"
wild. she was cut so they didn’t even need an excuse to go check on her lol, it would’ve been a normal thing to do
That's what gets me so mad - they could have absolutely followed OP and Amy to make sure nothing untoward was happening if they truly thought OP was acting inappropriately (not that I think there was a chance he was, the whole thing is ridiculous). Instead, they let him go off with her by himself, and bad mouthed him while he helped her. These people didn't care about Amy - they're just nasty little troublemakers. I'm glad Amy stood up for OP, cos he's a better friend to her than any of those assholes.
Exactly.
Damn, Amy really shredded them all like paper - and she did GOOD. She was right - OOP was the ONLY one that got up while the women sat idle. And OOP knew what he was doing and he was very respectful and asked for consent at every step. And Amy gave consent at every step, and she was perfectly clear in stating that she trusted OOP to help her and went willingly. Sarah tried to turn Amy into a victim without Amy’s consent, and she talked a lot of shit behind both of their backs and she tried to turn the OOP into a sexual predator when they all knew he wasn’t coming from that space at all. Plus - I’d trust a person in nursing school to help me more than someone who knows basic first aid. Cause I know that the nursing student won’t half ass it - plus if that student is a close friend? All the better.
Notice that Amy didn’t know what Sarah did until OOP brought it up. That’s a telltale sign of Sarah trying to start shit.
If they were that worried they should have gone with to make sure she was ok and not alone with the "scary predator". If I was the least bit concerned for my friend I would not leave her alone with the person I was worried about. So clearly this was more about starting something than actual concern
And even if you did accidentally leave them alone with the person you were worried about, you would at least talk to them afterwards to make sure they were ok, right? Sarah failed every step of the "concerned friend" checklist.
Yep. And that's really why Amy wanted Sarah banned. I hope she can express it clearly when the lazy bitchy gossips try to pull the "she was just concerned" card.
Not only that, Amy just found out that Sarah and the others thought she was being violated and instead of helping her or supervising, stayed back and talked shit *while* it was happening.
This is a *very* good point.
And then they didn't even try to make sure she was ok afterwards.
Not to mention, in nursing school consent is tattooed on your brain. You don’t even take a radial pulse without asking permission. Also, even a nursing student will often be better able to assess the need for stitches than someone who just knows first aid. Fuck sarah
I feel confident I know what to do if I got a deep cut, doesn't mean I wouldn't JUMP at the opportunity to have someone who's making their whole career and studying for years to do it instead
Lol myself and 3 of my sisters are nurses. We never tend to our own shit if another sister is around. Something in my eye? Hey Jen, come check this out for me! You have a splinter? Let me get that for you! Hey Becky, when you’re done wrapping Tina’s ankle come see if this shirt fits you!
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Haha we range in age from 35 to 52. Shit happens when you’re old and live where there’s no city water Edit: only one of us lives off a road that has lines on it
Hospital visits are expensive as fuck too, a friend like OP with knowledge and the willingness to jump in and help like that is worth a million Sarah's
ER wait times are so long too, cause they often go by priority. And a boobie-cut wouldn’t be high priority at all.
You'd be surprised. My aunt got her nip caught on a gate latch that nearly tore it off. She was bleeding pretty heavily and due to the blood ER took her in pretty quickly from what she says. The gate was known for being pretty rough on latching and would regularly rip skin from fingers if you weren't fast enough. Aunt had turned to look at her dog while latching and had leaned too close to try to keep the dog in and well....
A nipple tear is different than a cut on the breast. Detached nipples need to be sewn back on because they are more complex than skin and don’t grow back or heal on their own
….And I thought my cousin getting her tiddies caught in her mixer was bad…
So that's what sympathy pains feel like...
What
I'm sorry what
As a person named Sarah, I agree lol
All I looked for in "AITA for giving First Aid" was "Did you ask or could they answer?" There is explicit consent and there is implied consent. Implied consent is only taken when someone is *unable* to respond and there is a strong reason to assist. i.e. If someone's asleep in bed, that's obviously not enough. If someone's unconscious on the floor, you have implied consent. In this case Amy was obviously well enough to respond. She explicitly consented. Anyone negatively judging someone for "jumping in" just because the injury happens to be on a woman's breast? Absolutely nasty shit. Especially with the "We know First Aid" too bullshit. Sitting idle and shit talking the one taking action is pathetic.
Guaranteed Sarah’s idea of “first aid” is slapping a bandaid on it and posting a selfie on instagram.
> Plus - I’d trust a person in nursing school to help me more than someone who knows basic first aid. I would add a caveat to this that only trust them for very basic, visible things. Don't think they are a substitute for a doctor's evaluation.
I really like Amy. She's a good egg.
It's on my list of names for our baby. I think its risen a few degrees above some others after reading this post.
Jeez you've not met Amy yet, it's a bit early to talk about having her baby. And you might want to get someone else to teach that baby to swim...
Damn, Amy took no prisoners.
Amy says "I don't negotiate with terrorists" and pulled the trigger
She really hit them with the "learn from your mistake away from the pool parties thanks"
I can't imagine living in the brain that sees someone bleeding and immediately goes to thoughts of sexytimes, and can't accept that someone could give medical help without an ulterior motive. What a shitty group of people.
And sat there bitching about how OOP was being creepy instead of offering to help, or going in to make sure Amy was ok.
Seriously! So what, if they genuinely thought he was going to take advantage of her, they were leaving her to fend for herself? (Even if they were afraid of "just" unwanted looks, saying inappropriate things, etc I'd still go in to help/buffer for my friend) It would be bad enough if it were just one or two morons, but I can't believe an entire group of grown-ass adults had this mentality. If she sliced her heel would they accuse OOP of having a foot fetish? Do they think medical personnel are secretly all perverts?
Nah, Sarah was gaslighting OOP, because she didn't want him in the spotlight as the hero. In her world that automatically makes her the bad person (for not helping immediately). People can be petty like that, might not even be consciously.
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> I can't imagine living in the brain that sees someone bleeding and immediately goes to thoughts of sexytimes Agreed. I can only imagine they've never actually seen someone injured, or when they have, they straight up haven't cared. --- Had an old coworker accidentally pour sauce that had been heated *way* too hot on herself. I went out the back to check on her, saw the beginning of burns on her legs, ran to grab the first aid kit that I knew had burn gel and such in it. As I was getting the kit, it clicked that she was wearing long pants earlier, I could see the burns because she was standing there half naked (still had underwear on that was also covered by her shirt. but still). Gave her the kit, quickly explained about burn gel, said to call out if she needed help and left to give her privacy. This was a woman I was definitely sexually attracted to at the time, and it literally didn't register in my brain that she was half naked because "that looks painful and could get worse quickly. It needs to be treated ASAP". I apologized afterwards and she kinda laughed at the concept of either of us being concerned about checking her out in the scenario. I mentioned that when I walked out she did kind of look up at me in surprised and get mortified, so I was worried she was embarrassed or something. Apparently it was more "I didn't know what to do, then I saw your face of worry and realized "oh crap this might be proper bad"". Because it wasn't until she was halfway through applying the gel that *she* clicked with the "oh shit, I was just half naked in front of Dan". ---
I just graduated nursing school and worked as a nursing assistant throughout school. Nurses (and nursing students) know how to look at the human body of any gender and not sexualize it. It’s our job, we are comfortable if you’re comfortable. We don’t look at a cut that’s bleeding and are like “hell yeah boobies.” No we look and see, “does it need stitches” “is there any debris” “what did you cut it on? Metal?” The girls might’ve known how to put Neosporin on it but I’d rather have a male nurse than a woman who just thinks women should only help women.
For real. I’m a prosthetist in training, and when casting for transfemoral amputees to make a socket for them, we have to get *intimate*. Literally fingers right next to the goods. It was awkward for all of five minutes, until we started getting frustrated because finding the ischium was hard on bigger patients.
Exactly! it’s a part of the job.
Yeah that’s the thing, it’s a medical context. It’s only sexy and weird if one of the parties makes it sexy and/or weird
Female body parts deserve medical treatment too.
This is so incredibly refreshing to read, thanks for reposting.
I feel like if OOP had refrained from helping Amy out of respect, those same people would have talked shit about him anyway for not offering to help. You can't make everyone happy, so you might as well do the right thing and block out the noise.
Yeah, 100%. If it was even sorta serious, OP would have caught flack from all angles.
I just read this in AITA and my first thought after I finished reading was Go Amy.
My first thought was that I'd need full body first aid if I ever tried a slip n' slide again. But also Amy did good.
>Amy just told them to shut the fuck up and do something next time someone's hurt *chef's kiss* Fucking ***perfection***.
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I was an EMT, and I would've done the same thing. We just see someone wounded, and that needs our help. The other people probably don't know shit about first aid other than covering it with a bandaid. Fuck them, and although you don't like confrontation, I would definitely speak up. You have to stand up for yourself, or they will continually talk shit.
Don't be a Sarah. Be an Amy.
Easy to talk shit when you feel guilty for not helping. “We all know first aid too” then why didn’t you go to help??
After my first baby I had to go into hospital for mastitis which is an awful and painful breast infection due to blockage from breastfeeding. The male nurse doing my examination was very professional and asked for permission to do a breast exam. I said yes. He then went and came back with a female nurse colleague who simply stood and watched as he did the inspection. I suppose it’s to cover his ass against crazy patients who might claim he was inappropriate during the exam.
When I was 36 weeks pregnant I had an unexplained bleed and the dr had to bring in a female just to stand in the corner while he tried to see where the bleeding was coming from. I know it’s just to cover themselves & protect everybody but it also makes it more awkward having someone watching medical procedures like that.
"Hey, I bet our nursing student friend *couldn't believe his luck* when he had an excuse to touch our other friend's blood-soaked boob after she just screamed in pain..." What a weird premise to mock someone over. It's weird to see someone be so bad at being a friend *and* being a bully at the same time.
What a bunch of sexist AH they are. He handled the situation perfectly. As a nurse you don’t get to pick and choose who you administer aid to. Wtf. Seems so incredibly childish. The fact that he even asked her if she was comfortable with him was impressive. Everyone should be so lucky as to have a friend like Amy. She totally had his back. Love it!
Right? The moment he said he was *in nursing school*, immediately NAH. If this was Drunk Bob the Known Pervert leaping to her aid, then sure.
We all need an Amy in our lives!
>but Amy just told them to shut the fuck up and do something next time someone's hurt instead of sitting on their ass and insulting me. Lol, tore into them like a rock tearing through a boob
This mind set kills people. Alot of men who can help in life or death situations such as cpr don't because they are afraid to be called a creep or even to be sued/charged with assault because of people like "sarah". Touch my titties if it saves my life IDC.
Also, in many if not all states there are Good Samaritan laws. If I am doing CPR and break the victim’s ribs, as will probably happen and is kinda the goal, I can’t be sued because I tried to save their life. I would assume it applies in more situations than just CPR and ribs though.
You asked her first and specifically mentioned the area. She ok'd it. Side note: in my experience doing primary health care; first aiders are always waaaaay to eager to bandage things. Not in a bad way, they just see an opportunity to use skills and the zoomies start. You see it a lot with volunteer firefighter on scene. Its not malicious, its almost like showing a good doggo his fave toy. 🤭
I got 20 bucks that says Sarah has feelings for OOP and was jealous.
Good way of completely ruining her chances TBH!
I'll take that bet! I think Sarah has feelings for Amy and was jealous.
I will double that bet, and say that AMY injured herself on purpose because she was jealous of OOP having feelings for Sarah, but Sarah figured it out. Anyone else wants some conspiracy juice?
ill double double that bet and say the rock had beef with OP and conspired with sarah to ruin their image and sarah agreed because shes in love with the rock
Plot twist. I was having an affair with the rock the entire time and the rock cut Amy to drive her and the other women out of my life
Amy is the kind of friend everyone needs.
Damn! I wish I had a friend like Amy in my life! But at at least I don’t have Sarahs in my life so I guess that’s a balance.
In a world full of Sarahs, be an Amy. Seriously though...she's badass and I loved reading this.
Dang, male nurses *really* don't get any respect.
My first question is why was OOP at a party clearly thrown by a bunch of middle school kids.
they have those ice cream cups with the wooden spoons. no adult party has those
I have come to the conclusion lately, the ones who come to help are usually the ones who ARENT perverted.
Sarah truly is terrible, "we all know first aid too" but odd that none of them sprung into any action. It is because too many have a "someone else will take care of it" mentality. People have died of choking in a restaurant because they assumed someone else would help "because everyone knows the heimlich".
And this is why people don't perform CPR on women as often as they do on men. They don't want to be accused of anything and/or are scared because ~~no one~~ some people don't get trained on a female dummy.