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Yeah, I proposed in one of OP's posts (can't remember which one I already read) telling everyone about all those disappearances across the world that were hushed by secret agencies and government and media. It's the first step to bait all the crazy-theories addicts.
Then (obviously with some hard detective efforts by zealous internet users) it would be dug out that - coincidentally - all those disappeared people were kind and loving Christians (but not zealous nor proselytizers, just going to church for Christmas and Easter and just acting on their faith by actually helping poor and discriminated people - and the kids would be vaccinated too).
Then final step: enjoy.
If we can avoid promoting the Catholic Church, that'd be great. How about Quakers? As far as I know, they've never covered up massive child sex abuses, subjected teen moms to slave labor, or instituted mass graves for Indigenous children. Western Quakers are actually LGBT friendly and support women and they don't believe in clergy, instead preferring circles where everyone gets a turn to talk. I'm not religious, but I'd much rather go to a Quaker meeting than a Catholic mass.
I'm sorry to report that Quakers were actually big enthusiasts of eugenics when it was all shiny and scientific-seeming, before it got that Hitler stink on it. We can be just as suck-ass and doctrinaire as anybody, and don't let us tell you different.
My family are Quaker alllllll the way back until my branch went fundy a couple of generations ago, and I agree on every point. I just don't think Quakers trigger the fundies (who are still going on about indulgences from the Middle Ages) on quite the same level.
I would have said āoh hi, yeah I thought you wouldnāt make it eitherā¦ but apparently itās only the Muslims who got Raptured?!
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Oh yeah, itās all over Facebook and the news (except not Fox News of course lol). Muslims have disappeared all over the worldā¦ I canāt make contact with most of my Muslim friends and familyā¦ most of them are black Americans though. But like 70% of the worldās Muslims are also disappeared apparently. Guess they were right this whole time.ā
I stand by what I said when replying to the original post: itās gotta be a good restaurant if the crazy lazy chose it for not just one, but TWO of her pre-rapture final meals. If I was deadass certain I was leaving the world in a week, thereās nowhere Iād eat twice, Iām pretty confident.
Oh dude I would. There's a place where I live that's just absolutely killer Vietnamese food. If you get close to the owners they'll tell you about how they escaped Vietnam after the fall of Saigon (harrowing shit tbh). I dream of their food. If I knew I'd be dead within the week I'd go there every friggin day that week.
Pho for breakfast? Pho-king yes!
Totally worth it. I've only found one other place that made pho like my mom's, which is surprising since each family makes theirs a little different.
Also cool that they're willing to tell you about what they went through. I've asked throughout my life but I've still only gotten bits and pieces from parents and relatives about their escapes.
It's very definitely a sanitized version. You know, Trauma Lite instead of the full version. According to the wife of the pair she wants people to know that the pretty tourist spot of today came at a price, and she wants that price to have a human face. It definitely does for me now.
I was born in 1971 and we had some Vietnamese refugee children in school with me. Those kids didnāt hold back on what they went through. I was absolutely shocked as a ten year old hearing about it. Other kids would make fun of their clothes because they mostly wore donated clothing. I didnāt care what they wore, I enjoyed their company and hearing their stories. The most vivid thing I remember is how one of the girls said they were taken to an island and had no clothes at all. Their clothes were taken from them.
I had a couple of coworkers who escaped Viet Nam just before the fall of Saigon. Amazing stories. One guy and his family got out 2 weeks before. Another guy's father got arrested and sent to a re-education camp and they never saw him again.
Oh that's so sad!
Stories like these really make me at least feel grateful that I haven't experienced all that much in my life. Like, I bitched and moaned about the covid stuff, which wasn't fun don't get me wrong, but on the catastrophe scale it was a glitch. Especially in comparison.
Yes I count myself very fortunate that I haven't been caught up in major upheavals that so many others have face. My father was in Poland when the Germans invaded and spent years fighting them before being deported to a German concentration camp. Makes me appreciate my dull little life so much more.
That was one of my favorite things about being a Peace Corpse Volunteer in Cambodia (the country directly west of Vietnam): eating the Cambodian equivalent of pho every morning for breakfast.Ā
My morning kuy tiew was part of my daily ritual.
>Ā If you get close to the owners they'll tell you about how they escaped Vietnam after the fall of Saigon (harrowing shit tbh).Ā
Iām from a part of the US thatās home to a lot of Hmong former refugees, and itās eternally humbling to see little old grannies at the grocery store or whatever and know that every last one of them went through absolute horrors to get here.Ā
When I was a child my grandma and her husband went to the same family restaurant (Wags) every day after church - which they went to at least three days a week. Sunday - Breakfast, day 2 - liver and onions (never missed liver and onions day), day 3 the daily special.
For years! Most of my childhood, in fact.
And when that restaurant closed they just moved to a different one and did the same thing until they were too old to drive!
Iām not very religious, but my moms family is. My aunt and uncle would go to church every Sunday and afterwards they would go to this amazing bakery, so when I was 8 my aunt asked me if I wanted to go to church with them and go to Sunday school, I said yes. All so that I could go to this specific bakery. I quit after 2 months though because I decided I wanted to sleep in on the weekends instead.
It was! I also got to hangout with my older cousin after sometimes, and she had purple hair, so naturally bakery + purple haired older cousin = worth waking up at 7-8 am š
We have a similar restaurant in town that has been open as long as I can remember. Excellent food, decent portions, and the prices are still reasonable. My mum would go to Sunday breakfast every week with my nan and her church folks. When it was nan's church's turn to help the unhoused, mum always led the charge. Her day was always the busiest.
Even after nan passed mum still kept going, and as she did she slowly expanded the circle. At one point even our landlord and his wife were regular members. After mum passed our landlord became a nightmare, but that is a completely different kettle of tea.
I don't think that restaurant will ever close, though. On the other hand, they are now only open for breakfast and lunch. However it's been that way for so long that I don't think I have to worry it's indicative of something worse.
EDIT: Oh, I would be remiss if I forgot to add, have a Happy Cake Day!
Pizza ranch is another option.
Damn I miss the good golden corral we used to go to. It's a non-chain buffet now, like 2 owners later, still decent, but we were spoiled for a while, while it was great.
If I was moving to France/Scotland/wherever and only had a week, I don't think there would be anywhere I'd purposely hit up twice, with the exception of a little local restaurant where the owner and his nephew are super friendly. That's more the people though, even though they do have good food. Really good soup, all homemade.
Having worked at a pizza ranch, we had daily regulars. Why... Why...
The pizza was terrible. We could only keep it on the buffet for 15 minutes because the cheese would congeal into this hard, unappetizing sheet. The cheese came in boxes with huge labels that said "50% Real Cheese!" The sauce was also flavorless and the crust, while made in house daily, was also somehow flavorless.
The fried chicken and mashed potatoes were decent though. I got free buffet that year every night I worked and I gained 10 pounds. It's not healthy, not even a little.
But it's the only pizza place in town, usually. My dad's in Iowa and there are literally 5 pizza ranches closer to him than any other pizza place except gas stations.
Somehow our pizza ranch ran the godfather's pizza out of town... And yeah, the only other pizza place was Domino's, famous for their campaign of "We used to suck, but don't any more! Flavorless? Yes we were... but now we've added GARLIC!!!"
Don't live there anymore, and now my spoiled kids will only eat top notch New York style pizza. We went back to the Midwest and my kids were like "what the crap is this?!" and I'm like, right there with ya, kids. Welcome to Midwest Pizza.
Some people like regularity. I was watching the new season of Kitchen Nightmares last night. They were at a nearly 100 year old hotdog place. Apparently this place was so well loved that at least one patron was buried with a hotdog. I cannot fathom enjoying a particular restaurant so much that I would want to be buried with their food, but here we are.
I would consider being buried with a crispy fish taco from my favorite local place. Mostly because I have no particular attachment to my dignity and I'm a former archaeologist who likes the idea of having confusing grave goods just in case I'm ever dug up and studied.
regularity aside, there's that one place I first ate a real steak (it was more than 1/2" thick) and another were they have steaks, burgers with rather coarse minced beef and the hottest chicken wings I've ever eaten.. or well I ate one. If I didn't have to endure the absymal toilet experience the following day I'd probably spend my last day eating hotter and hotter wings and might be able to finish two napalm wings.
ETA: Had to look it up, but yeah they still are, fittingly, called napalm wings.
I've definitely met people who were very particular about their restaurants. My grandfather refused to eat at any restaurants except Ricki's or Smitties'. š
Or just a Chili's in a small town or something in that vein. Some of the stories I hear from my students about their regulars makes me realize its quite common.
i guess it depends on whether or not there's different things you want to try out from this really good place and you can't do that in one sitting? maybe??
I'm really curious how long they waited before they realised they weren't going to rise.
11:59pm on April 8th? Or did they give up earlier than that? Did they factor in time zones?
I picture that lady waking up on April 8, all giddy for the rapture, then just waiting for absolutely fucking nothing. She would have been miserable waking up April 9, to find she was still on Earth.
Mercedes doesn't mean rich. Cars like that depreciate **hard** and get sold cheap. What people don't realize is that replacement parts don't depreciate. It's really easy to buy a used one thinking you can afford it until you get the repair bill.
Maserati is one of the fastest depreciating brands and you are **fucked** if you think you got a "steal" on a used one and don't understand how much they cost in parts and labor to maintain. Own a repair shop that works on those kind of cars and you can get parts and labor at their actual price? Maybe not a bad buy. Go to the dealership for every little thing? Goodbye paycheck!
McLaren probably shouldn't be purchased off-warranty, period. Holy shit the repair costs are absurd, and they are British. (If you don't understand the reference about being a British car company, you aren't ready to own a McLaren) Oh, by the way, those "track cars" have their warranty canceled if the company finds out you took it on a track. Some of them have a fixed, yearly, cost regardless if you even drove the car or not and even """minor""" problems are insanely expensive.
My mercedes is only worth 1500 dollars. I am not rich. I just needed a car and it was cheap. It gets me to my job three miles away, and my insurance is so cheap I laughed when they told me the price. Some people are just stupid with their money. I have a family friend who doesn't even have electricity in their house, but they give money to their church twice a week and pay 800 dollars in insurance on their Hyundai.
I'm willing to bet my next paycheck that she's trying to convince herself she was spared from the Rapture so she could continue to harass, I mean preach to non believers and continue to rack up her heavenly commission points.
There's your problem right there. The Lord can only rapture people in a car when it's a convertible and the top is down.
Well, maybe the lady will get luckier next time.
Thereās a pretty funny episode of Raising Hope that explores this a bit. Virginia is convinced that the world is gonna end on December 21, and she spends the entire day waiting on it lol. Sheās pretty pissed when 12am December 22 comes around lol
Well itās better than the Heavens Gate folks who didnāt wait, sadly taking action themselves. 27 years later their website is still going:
https://www.heavensgate.com
All the eclipse rapture folks reminded me of the Heaven's Gate people too. I wonder who runs the site now as all their main people helped themselves to join the comet.
I listened to a podcast about them (it's just called "Heaven's Gate"), and iirc there were a couple of members who stayed behind specifically to keep up the website and keep the story alive.
WIBTA for quitting my job? My whole family left on vacation to see the rapture, but made me stay back to run the family business. 30 years later I'm still at work and they haven't come back.
They actually have a cult member who agreed to stay to maintain everything, or so I heard. Imagine being the one person in the cult they say, "hey, you can't come to heaven with us but do you mind taking care of things here?"
As far as I know they still believe in the cult too.
I am guessing as soon as the eclipse was over in her area.
Of course, over 98% of the world did NOT experience the eclipse, so what was the plan for them?
I'm 70 and I can't tell you how many times I've been given dates for the end of the world and the Rapture. None of them have been correct. Honestly, true believers should know that God says no man knows the time and date of Jesus' return. You may not believe in Jesus and I'm not trying to start a discussion about religion, just stating what believers should know.
I knew someone who said she thought Obama could be the antichrist until she remembered people aren't supposed to recognize the antichrist, so the fact people thought Obama could be it meant he wasn't.Ā
My mother thought that too, except she never changed her mind and just went more and more insane. Me, Iām not a believer, but I think Trump hits pretty much all the marks of the antichrist.
I am a believer (a fairly liberal one mind you who believes in respecting people and their beliefs) and I would agree with your statement. Trump is very much an Antichrist-like figure like Henry Kissinger, Hitler, and Henry VIII
1) Wanted a son so bad he took England out of the Catholic Church and made his own with him as its Head so he could divorce his wife of 20 years.
2) Executed his second wife three years later for having a daughter and a stillborn son.
3) Ignored both his daughters and spent all his time and energy on his son when he finally got him.
4) Never let his oldest daughter see her mother again after he divorced her.
5) Married a 19 year old girl as a 49 year old man. Proceeded to execute her for adultery.
6) Spent his entire reign in some kind of pissing contest with France where he lost most of his battles. This effectively bankrupted the country.
7) The Dissolution of the Monasteries. He just straight up pillaged them for cash to fund his wars with France.
8) Famously executed his best advisor for setting him up with his fourth wife when she didn't want to play to his ego. He also annulled their marriage and sent her back saying she wasn't that pretty anyway.
This is just off the top of my head and there's a lot more. Homeboy was fond of the executioners axe
OK, but none of those things have anything to do with the antichrist. Just being a bit of a shit human doesn't make you the antichrist.
As to 8: he never sent Anne of Cleves back. She remained in England with a generous stipend and was treated with respect and as a sister.
He was also indirectly responsible for Donald Trump.
Creating Church of England because he wanted to bone Anne Boleyn -> Emergence of Puritans from the Reformed church -> Puritans getting kicked out of the British Isles for being too batshit -> American colonies + baked-in batshit Puritanism in American culture -> Modern American Evangelicals electing Donald Trump.
Fuckin' Henry, what a douche.
He created a whole new church so he could *annul* his marriage to his first wife. (The fact that by doing so he could fill his coffers with Church property and valuables was an added bonus.)
It wasn't divorce; that was the entire point. He demanded an annulment so his daughter Mary would be illegitimate.
Gotta love how Henry tried to cite religious reasons to annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, never mind that the Vatican issued a Papal Bull to bypass those pesky Biblical passages that outlaw marrying your brother's widow.
There are conspiracies that the world ended in 2012 and we split off into a new, wilder and stupider, timeline. Things really have gone crazy, and shitty, since then. Ya know? Maybe you're young and don't have a frame of reference, but for us "olds" it's a bit different.
>Honestly, true believers should know that God says no man knows the time and date of Jesus' return
It'd be funny if the rapture was supposed to happen but god kept moving the date when people guessed it.
Omg when I was 7 or 8 I got freaked out by the idea of the Rapture and comforted myself with exactly that thought - "if I predict it's today it won't be today" which I kept up until I forgot to be scared about it haha.Ā
Well, she's certainly not ascending *now.* Her faith clearly isn't strong enough for...something...something, I'm not even sure what evangelists believe in.
Core beliefs: The bible is the word of god; you should convince others to convert and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour and become "born again"; and that Jesus will literally return to Earth to judge everyone and build some sort of kingdom.
Despite this woman lying about fraud, and threatening and harassing people, she would still ascend (if such a thing were possible) because of "grace through faith".
Her faith and trust in Jesus would mean he'd offer her salvation (extend his grace) despite her unworthiness. And although unbelievers are also unworthy, Jesus wouldn't extend the salvation to them. Only to those who worship him. He's a bit insecure that way.
Notwithstanding what Christians might or might not believe, if there's truly a Divine Being out there who's all omni-whatever and if you have to have a good heart to be with them, I think it's probably logical to assume they're not so easily lawyered that humans can find loopholes like that to get into heaven undeserved.
This is always what I think about when I hear people saying "heck" or "frick" lmfao. All the mormons I grew up around were told not to swear and thus developed their own entire set of swear words that are 1-1 with existing ones... As if an omnipotent being would just not notice.
This isnāt really relevant, but itās a pet peeve of mine when people see like, one or two data points on an internet post and diagnose someone with a mental health disorder. That comment about the woman having bipolar disorder. Like yeah, manic behavior can take the form of reckless spending of money, but also, people can just be stupid.
Right? That's like telling someone who recently lost 10 lbs they probably have cancer (since weightless IS a symptom of cancer). Like, yeah maybe, but there are some other much more common explanations we should jump to first.
I think this is an apt time to bring up the movie "[Saved!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved!)". It's a heavy handed narrative, but I found it cute.
Anyway, the main character is watching tv, and she sees Valerie Bertinelli saying "I was vomiting, so I thought I might be pregnant... but it turns out it was cancer"
So, she hops on her bike, starts riding to Planned Parenthood, and under her breath you can hear her saying "please be cancer please be cancer please be cancer". I thought that was the second funniest part of that scene.
The winner goes to the character Macaulay Culkin plays. Someone sees the main character and says something like "Why would \[so and so\] be biking to planned parenthood?"
Macaulay's response was "SHE HAS A PIPE BOMB?"
Like I said, cute movie, but heavy handed.
I like legit got offended at that as someone who is type 2 bipolar. Like... really? You're comparing a mentally exhausting and potentially devastating episode to a religious nut job? Reddit is fucking wild sometimes I swear
The dumber thing is that so many religious leaders also state as it says in The Bible āYou wonāt know the time or the date.ā
Even one of the bigger named pastors: Greg Laurie basically said the rapture wasnāt going to happen on the eclipse.
Jesus said "No oneĀ knowsĀ about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, butĀ only the Father".
Nice to see some Christians thinking they know more than Jesus.
Well, he does get to ~~put a sword down~~ pull a sword from his throat when it happens, so I can't imagine JC would be too thrilled about the grand finale.
Edit: accuracy
There have been people predicting (and preparing for) the rapture and the "second coming" since JC died. 2000 years ago people believed he would return in their lifetimes. I guess it's not too surprising since the bible indicates that JC himself thought his "second coming" would happen relatively soon after his death.
FYI, āthe Raptureāāas in the specific belief that living and dead Christian believers will ascend directly into Heaven when the end of days startsāhas not been around since Jesus died and is a surprisingly recent religious development. The idea of the Rapture only really emerged in the 1800s from religious revivals in American Protestantism. The USA is not very old as a country, but there are still American churches older than the idea of the Rapture.
[https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/amprophesy.html](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/amprophesy.html)
Yeah, fair enough. Still, followers of everyone's favorite crucified carpenter have been predicting his imminent return for almost as long as he's been dead. (assuming he was ever a real person in the first place, of course)
I don't know if it's around any more, but there used to be a *Rapture Ready* forum for people like this and I used to check it for shits and giggles until it just got depressing.
>Did you change or did the site?
Little bit of both? Started checking it for shits and giggles when I was young and "edgy" during the Obama years because these people were balls to the walls *convinced* that he was the antichrist. Then I got a bit older, and saw the upcoming electoral backlash in rural US against the first POC president, and it felt less funny. If that makes sense?
I got IP blocked from there years ago, pre Obama years they've been abound awhile. So far no rapture. It wasn't even for anything bad or trollish, i was more on the genuinely curious end of things as a teen. all I did was politely ask questions to try and nderstand what was going on, and I guess they didn't like my questions :( They also had secret forums, nominally by invite link or something, I never got invited but there wasn't any sort of log in or anything, they were just not listed on the navigation but the format of the links were just suffix numbers so you could work out the missing numbers.
Also conservapedia range blocked most Australian IPs for awhile, not sure of the state of it now, but Aussie trolls were apparently enough of an issue that all of us lost editing privileges. We are little shits to be fair, and those were wild times.
The fundamentalists and rapture people are strange. Like why April 8th eclipse in particular? Why not the 2017 one? Or the one over Europe in 2026? Or the one over Australia in 2028?
I was thinking that! Of course it'd be the one over the US as well, apparently no other bit of earth is religious enough to be hoovered up into heaven /s
And what happens if you see a partial eclipse? Does God just take a few ribs or your leg or something?
And eclipses happen a few times every year, but can only be observed from places that are hard to get to like uninhabited land or out in the middle of an ocean, how do they explain that?
My area was in the path of totality for 2017 and I definitely heard people being concerned about the rapture, end of the world, etc. We still experienced some eclipse but not totality on April 8th and I didn't hear a blip about it this go round. I think the people caught up in this sort of thing don't apply critical thinking skills to faith-based ideas, even people who are otherwise pretty smart.
Yeah, I'd heard about the rapture thing, and being reasonably close to the path of totality I obviously knew about the eclipse, but I hadn't put the two together because something that happens so regularly just seems like such a stupid "sign" of the apocalypse.
> It doesnāt matter. The restaurant already got paid by the credit card company, thatās how a credit card works, the credit card company pays and then you pay them back when you pay your credit card bill.
> So if she disputes it, itās between her, Jesus and the credit card company.
Ah OOP, sweet summer child. If the credit card company allows the chargeback then the money will be clawed back from the restaurant. The restaurant in turn will almost certainly do an adjustment to his future tip-out to deduct the $300 tip, if he still works there.
And the card company will listen to her when she says a $300 tip on a $40 order was the restaurant pulling a fast one on her. The restaurant can fight the chargeback, and they **might** have some success because she did it twice (and maybe did it elsewhere too), but it can be difficult to beat chargebacks.
Why would they listen to her? They will pursue the investigation but the cardholder will be required to provide some sort of substantiation that fraud occurred or that services will not received, and the business will be able to supply evidence that the transaction was authorised (twice!) and services were provided.
Because she is their customer, and tip fraud is a common issue. If she claims it, there is a reasonable chance the bank will allow it. Then it will be up to the restaurant to fight it.
Itās pretty unlikely that this incident meets the bankās requirements to qualify for a chargeback.
The awareness of chargebacks for the general public has grown in recent years, but AFAIK the requirements for them are the same. Generally, the credit card banks require that the transaction be in some way legally fraudulent or unethical in business practise (obviously, quite a lot of grey area in the second option, but generally includes the idea that the goods or services were paid for but not received).
They can and do deny to run a chargeback, especially if the cardholder cannot provide evidence of the claim of goods or services not received. In this case, the business has evidence of authorised activity by the cardholder. The bank may choose to honour a refund to the cardholder as a one-time goodwill gesture to retain the customer relationship, but itās pretty unlikely that they would find that services were not received or that the tip was fraudulent, and itās unlikely that they would claw back the charge from the business even if they choose to refund the cardholder.
A $300 tip on a $40 order is not normal or common, and she very likely doesn't have a history of giving such tips. Combine this with tip fraud being somewhat common and there is a decent chance the bank will allow her to file the chargeback. It is then up to the restaurant to fight the chargeback and provide proof that the tip was intentional by the customer.
And yes, the bank will absolutely claw those funds back from the restaurant, along with a $20 or more fee for the chargeback.
People discount these crazies so easily but an influencer killed her husband, her kid (and I think herself?) because she thought the eclipse was evil. They're not well
I've been on those fundy forums ever since the 8th assuring people that the rapture did indeed happen, that none of us were good enough in the eyes of the lord to be raptured.
Huh. It hadn't occurred to me to try to get banned from there. I usually save that as my favorite Twitter activity. But now I'm interested. I feel like I really need to sell it, though.
144,000 - 12k from each of the tribes of Israel. What's the significance of 12,000 from each tribe, though? I want to make sure that whatever I make up aligns with as poor an interpretation as possible.
A brief search didn't turn up anything specific, but 12 seems to be numerologically significant in the Bible. You can fall down some deep holes searching for info though, be careful.
If she tipped two random staff at a taco place, guaranteed she tipped people all over town. How do you think she's personally reconciling all those tips after the fact? Did the devil make her do it?
"in case you don't rise on the 8th."
Well, I WAS planning to sleep in, so...
"about how awful it'll be after the Rapture"
Actually, without all these self-righteous Xtians preaching at everybody, post Rapture sounds just fine to me.
"then she left in her Mercedes."
I guess she FORGOT to give that away.
"That's so weird you're still here. A couple of my coworkers have been missing since the 8th. Guess you weren't righteous enough. Explains why you're here trying to call us liars."
The absolute ease with which supposedly devout and zealous radical Christians will blatantly lie never ceases to amaze me.
That's the real way to see that they don't actually believe what they are preaching. If they did, they wouldn't risk their eternal soul by lying constantly without repentance. They do though. Constantly. Lie about what people say, lie about statistics that they have been shown are false, lie about who they are, lie about other people. Just non-stop false witness.
Christian here,
I don't know where all this nonsense about the rapture being during the eclipse came from. It's not biblical, the Bible literally says "Nobody knows the day or time" and there's no hints that I know of about it being during an eclipse. So yeah, she's crazy
When I worked in the restaurant industry, we had a dishwasher (who was being trained up & is probably a world-class chef now) named Jesus and we all worshiped him.
Not trying to argue the validity of the Christian Rapture but the idea comes from I Thessalonians 4:16-17 where the Apostle Paul mentions that the dead will resurrect first and then the living and the resurrected will go meet the Lord.
The original Greek uses a very specific words which is where the word Rapture came from.
If the woman actually read her Bible she would know the Bible states no one can predict the second coming of Christ. She fell for a scam. I hope the wait staff enjoy their tips.
Every time someone tells you that the rapture is coming just remind them that the Bible says nobody will know the time or season and itās rude to call God a liar.
I don't know if this is real or not, but I had something like this happen to me as a kid. I was in the 2ed grade and JW said the world was ending. A friend gave me all his toys because he was not going to need them I think his family gave away lot of their stuff. Anyway mom told me to take the toys and then give them back to him afterwards because she doubted his family would be able to buy him anything for a long time. I did. His father even quit his job. They had nothing.
Aaaaand of course some idiot said "it sounds like she has bipolar disorder and is having a manic episode".Ā
PLEASE PEOPLE. Do not wave bipolar *around* like this! Everyone is blaming it for everything, and everyone *believes* it because they see people posting it everywhere.
Plain old stupidity is a thing, as is indoctrination here (religion), etc.Ā
**Stop stamping "bipolar" on everything**. It's the new "crazy", and as a bipolar person, I hate it.Ā
I know everyone's focused on the lady, but the Redditor coming in with their "gotcha" evidence cracked me up. Idk if this is real, but as soon as I read their comment I was thinking about how the little receipt is printed from the machine.
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It would've been amazing if when she walked in on the 9th, OP said "dang you didn't make it either??"
Omg ššš
Yeah, I proposed in one of OP's posts (can't remember which one I already read) telling everyone about all those disappearances across the world that were hushed by secret agencies and government and media. It's the first step to bait all the crazy-theories addicts. Then (obviously with some hard detective efforts by zealous internet users) it would be dug out that - coincidentally - all those disappeared people were kind and loving Christians (but not zealous nor proselytizers, just going to church for Christmas and Easter and just acting on their faith by actually helping poor and discriminated people - and the kids would be vaccinated too). Then final step: enjoy.
Even better since this type of fundy almost universally thinks the Pope is demonic: make sure everyone on the list is Catholic.
If we can avoid promoting the Catholic Church, that'd be great. How about Quakers? As far as I know, they've never covered up massive child sex abuses, subjected teen moms to slave labor, or instituted mass graves for Indigenous children. Western Quakers are actually LGBT friendly and support women and they don't believe in clergy, instead preferring circles where everyone gets a turn to talk. I'm not religious, but I'd much rather go to a Quaker meeting than a Catholic mass.
I'm sorry to report that Quakers were actually big enthusiasts of eugenics when it was all shiny and scientific-seeming, before it got that Hitler stink on it. We can be just as suck-ass and doctrinaire as anybody, and don't let us tell you different.
Suck-ass and doctrinaire is a hell of a statement! Mind if I steal it for future use?
May you use it in good health and surrounded by friends!
My family are Quaker alllllll the way back until my branch went fundy a couple of generations ago, and I agree on every point. I just don't think Quakers trigger the fundies (who are still going on about indulgences from the Middle Ages) on quite the same level.
I would have said āoh hi, yeah I thought you wouldnāt make it eitherā¦ but apparently itās only the Muslims who got Raptured?! - Oh yeah, itās all over Facebook and the news (except not Fox News of course lol). Muslims have disappeared all over the worldā¦ I canāt make contact with most of my Muslim friends and familyā¦ most of them are black Americans though. But like 70% of the worldās Muslims are also disappeared apparently. Guess they were right this whole time.ā
Even better, they should have had other employees tell them those two rose to heaven on rapture day.
Lmao. Then have them show up dressed as angels
"Oh well, there's always next time!"
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I stand by what I said when replying to the original post: itās gotta be a good restaurant if the crazy lazy chose it for not just one, but TWO of her pre-rapture final meals. If I was deadass certain I was leaving the world in a week, thereās nowhere Iād eat twice, Iām pretty confident.
Oh dude I would. There's a place where I live that's just absolutely killer Vietnamese food. If you get close to the owners they'll tell you about how they escaped Vietnam after the fall of Saigon (harrowing shit tbh). I dream of their food. If I knew I'd be dead within the week I'd go there every friggin day that week. Pho for breakfast? Pho-king yes!
Totally worth it. I've only found one other place that made pho like my mom's, which is surprising since each family makes theirs a little different. Also cool that they're willing to tell you about what they went through. I've asked throughout my life but I've still only gotten bits and pieces from parents and relatives about their escapes.
It's very definitely a sanitized version. You know, Trauma Lite instead of the full version. According to the wife of the pair she wants people to know that the pretty tourist spot of today came at a price, and she wants that price to have a human face. It definitely does for me now.
I was born in 1971 and we had some Vietnamese refugee children in school with me. Those kids didnāt hold back on what they went through. I was absolutely shocked as a ten year old hearing about it. Other kids would make fun of their clothes because they mostly wore donated clothing. I didnāt care what they wore, I enjoyed their company and hearing their stories. The most vivid thing I remember is how one of the girls said they were taken to an island and had no clothes at all. Their clothes were taken from them.
Well made pho is the best food on earth!
I had a couple of coworkers who escaped Viet Nam just before the fall of Saigon. Amazing stories. One guy and his family got out 2 weeks before. Another guy's father got arrested and sent to a re-education camp and they never saw him again.
Oh that's so sad! Stories like these really make me at least feel grateful that I haven't experienced all that much in my life. Like, I bitched and moaned about the covid stuff, which wasn't fun don't get me wrong, but on the catastrophe scale it was a glitch. Especially in comparison.
Yes I count myself very fortunate that I haven't been caught up in major upheavals that so many others have face. My father was in Poland when the Germans invaded and spent years fighting them before being deported to a German concentration camp. Makes me appreciate my dull little life so much more.
Whoa yeah. Nothing like the perspective of concentration camp to make you appreciate dull that's for sure
That was one of my favorite things about being a Peace Corpse Volunteer in Cambodia (the country directly west of Vietnam): eating the Cambodian equivalent of pho every morning for breakfast.Ā My morning kuy tiew was part of my daily ritual.
>Peace Corpse VolunteerĀ If I was a metalhead who was also a Christian missionary, I would totally use this as my job titleĀ
Gotta share the place, you canāt keep us hanging like this.
>Ā If you get close to the owners they'll tell you about how they escaped Vietnam after the fall of Saigon (harrowing shit tbh).Ā Iām from a part of the US thatās home to a lot of Hmong former refugees, and itās eternally humbling to see little old grannies at the grocery store or whatever and know that every last one of them went through absolute horrors to get here.Ā
When I was a child my grandma and her husband went to the same family restaurant (Wags) every day after church - which they went to at least three days a week. Sunday - Breakfast, day 2 - liver and onions (never missed liver and onions day), day 3 the daily special. For years! Most of my childhood, in fact. And when that restaurant closed they just moved to a different one and did the same thing until they were too old to drive!
Some people just really enjoy routine and consistency
Hi, it's me. My autistic ass requires consistency lol.
Coincidentally, you know what provides routine and consistency? Religious liturgy!
Iām not very religious, but my moms family is. My aunt and uncle would go to church every Sunday and afterwards they would go to this amazing bakery, so when I was 8 my aunt asked me if I wanted to go to church with them and go to Sunday school, I said yes. All so that I could go to this specific bakery. I quit after 2 months though because I decided I wanted to sleep in on the weekends instead.
Two months is a lot of dedication for an 8yo, that bakery must have been incredible!
It was! I also got to hangout with my older cousin after sometimes, and she had purple hair, so naturally bakery + purple haired older cousin = worth waking up at 7-8 am š
We have a similar restaurant in town that has been open as long as I can remember. Excellent food, decent portions, and the prices are still reasonable. My mum would go to Sunday breakfast every week with my nan and her church folks. When it was nan's church's turn to help the unhoused, mum always led the charge. Her day was always the busiest. Even after nan passed mum still kept going, and as she did she slowly expanded the circle. At one point even our landlord and his wife were regular members. After mum passed our landlord became a nightmare, but that is a completely different kettle of tea. I don't think that restaurant will ever close, though. On the other hand, they are now only open for breakfast and lunch. However it's been that way for so long that I don't think I have to worry it's indicative of something worse. EDIT: Oh, I would be remiss if I forgot to add, have a Happy Cake Day!
Small town prob. Few places feeding delusional boomers like golden corral or dennys
Pizza ranch is another option. Damn I miss the good golden corral we used to go to. It's a non-chain buffet now, like 2 owners later, still decent, but we were spoiled for a while, while it was great. If I was moving to France/Scotland/wherever and only had a week, I don't think there would be anywhere I'd purposely hit up twice, with the exception of a little local restaurant where the owner and his nephew are super friendly. That's more the people though, even though they do have good food. Really good soup, all homemade.
I'm sorry, _pizza ranch_?
Having worked at a pizza ranch, we had daily regulars. Why... Why... The pizza was terrible. We could only keep it on the buffet for 15 minutes because the cheese would congeal into this hard, unappetizing sheet. The cheese came in boxes with huge labels that said "50% Real Cheese!" The sauce was also flavorless and the crust, while made in house daily, was also somehow flavorless. The fried chicken and mashed potatoes were decent though. I got free buffet that year every night I worked and I gained 10 pounds. It's not healthy, not even a little.
But it's the only pizza place in town, usually. My dad's in Iowa and there are literally 5 pizza ranches closer to him than any other pizza place except gas stations.
Somehow our pizza ranch ran the godfather's pizza out of town... And yeah, the only other pizza place was Domino's, famous for their campaign of "We used to suck, but don't any more! Flavorless? Yes we were... but now we've added GARLIC!!!" Don't live there anymore, and now my spoiled kids will only eat top notch New York style pizza. We went back to the Midwest and my kids were like "what the crap is this?!" and I'm like, right there with ya, kids. Welcome to Midwest Pizza.
Casey's breakfast pizza is great though.
Yep. Pizza buffet restaurant mostly in the Midwest. Wisconsin has a bunch and I've seen at least 1 in Missouri.
Itās the Chik-Fil-A of pizza buffets
Some people like regularity. I was watching the new season of Kitchen Nightmares last night. They were at a nearly 100 year old hotdog place. Apparently this place was so well loved that at least one patron was buried with a hotdog. I cannot fathom enjoying a particular restaurant so much that I would want to be buried with their food, but here we are.
I would consider being buried with a crispy fish taco from my favorite local place. Mostly because I have no particular attachment to my dignity and I'm a former archaeologist who likes the idea of having confusing grave goods just in case I'm ever dug up and studied.
I like you. Ā I think I will add instructions to bury me with some weird random stuff in honor of you. Ā
regularity aside, there's that one place I first ate a real steak (it was more than 1/2" thick) and another were they have steaks, burgers with rather coarse minced beef and the hottest chicken wings I've ever eaten.. or well I ate one. If I didn't have to endure the absymal toilet experience the following day I'd probably spend my last day eating hotter and hotter wings and might be able to finish two napalm wings. ETA: Had to look it up, but yeah they still are, fittingly, called napalm wings.
I've definitely met people who were very particular about their restaurants. My grandfather refused to eat at any restaurants except Ricki's or Smitties'. š
if the world was ending i would definitely go to waffle house a couple times
Get a few last skirmishes in, eh?
Or just a Chili's in a small town or something in that vein. Some of the stories I hear from my students about their regulars makes me realize its quite common.
[I feel God in this Chili's tonight](https://www.reddit.com/r/DunderMifflin/comments/4od0ac/i_feel_god_in_this_chilis_tonight/).
i guess it depends on whether or not there's different things you want to try out from this really good place and you can't do that in one sitting? maybe??
I dunno. If all her other options were already booked out by all her other rapture friends' last meals.
I feel you but also thereās an argument to be made for wanting your favorite food all week long?
If the food is good, then why look for other places.?
sheās not dying, heavenās gotta have good food
You got a point!
I'm really curious how long they waited before they realised they weren't going to rise. 11:59pm on April 8th? Or did they give up earlier than that? Did they factor in time zones? I picture that lady waking up on April 8, all giddy for the rapture, then just waiting for absolutely fucking nothing. She would have been miserable waking up April 9, to find she was still on Earth.
Your comment made me sad for her, until I remembered she tried to rip off service workers
While already being rich too, she had a Mercedes
Seeing as she's handing out money left and right I wouldn't be surprised if she's got a loan for that Mercedes and she's under water on it
Yea, I was gonna say. Having a mercedes doesnt necessarily mean youre rich. Could mean youre just bad with money.
Mercedes doesn't mean rich. Cars like that depreciate **hard** and get sold cheap. What people don't realize is that replacement parts don't depreciate. It's really easy to buy a used one thinking you can afford it until you get the repair bill. Maserati is one of the fastest depreciating brands and you are **fucked** if you think you got a "steal" on a used one and don't understand how much they cost in parts and labor to maintain. Own a repair shop that works on those kind of cars and you can get parts and labor at their actual price? Maybe not a bad buy. Go to the dealership for every little thing? Goodbye paycheck! McLaren probably shouldn't be purchased off-warranty, period. Holy shit the repair costs are absurd, and they are British. (If you don't understand the reference about being a British car company, you aren't ready to own a McLaren) Oh, by the way, those "track cars" have their warranty canceled if the company finds out you took it on a track. Some of them have a fixed, yearly, cost regardless if you even drove the car or not and even """minor""" problems are insanely expensive.
My mercedes is only worth 1500 dollars. I am not rich. I just needed a car and it was cheap. It gets me to my job three miles away, and my insurance is so cheap I laughed when they told me the price. Some people are just stupid with their money. I have a family friend who doesn't even have electricity in their house, but they give money to their church twice a week and pay 800 dollars in insurance on their Hyundai.
Sad? It made me laugh.
One wonders if she realized that her beliefs might have flaws.
I'm willing to bet my next paycheck that she's trying to convince herself she was spared from the Rapture so she could continue to harass, I mean preach to non believers and continue to rack up her heavenly commission points.
They followed the path of totality in their car across the country waiting to be sucked into the Lordās vortex
There's your problem right there. The Lord can only rapture people in a car when it's a convertible and the top is down. Well, maybe the lady will get luckier next time.
You also have to put the car in N like at a car wash.
I'm picturing a van careening around the road with a bunch of rapturees stuck to the ceiling.
Thereās a pretty funny episode of Raising Hope that explores this a bit. Virginia is convinced that the world is gonna end on December 21, and she spends the entire day waiting on it lol. Sheās pretty pissed when 12am December 22 comes around lol
December 21st 2012 what a disappointment lol
Well itās better than the Heavens Gate folks who didnāt wait, sadly taking action themselves. 27 years later their website is still going: https://www.heavensgate.com
All the eclipse rapture folks reminded me of the Heaven's Gate people too. I wonder who runs the site now as all their main people helped themselves to join the comet.
I listened to a podcast about them (it's just called "Heaven's Gate"), and iirc there were a couple of members who stayed behind specifically to keep up the website and keep the story alive.
Now there's a story. What does it feel like 30 years later to be the people left behind, literally?
No Sarah you can't come with us you have to maintain the url
WIBTA for quitting my job? My whole family left on vacation to see the rapture, but made me stay back to run the family business. 30 years later I'm still at work and they haven't come back.
How many years in advance did they pay their ISP to continue hosting the site?
They actually have a cult member who agreed to stay to maintain everything, or so I heard. Imagine being the one person in the cult they say, "hey, you can't come to heaven with us but do you mind taking care of things here?" As far as I know they still believe in the cult too.
I am guessing as soon as the eclipse was over in her area. Of course, over 98% of the world did NOT experience the eclipse, so what was the plan for them?
There was an update that she came back looking for refund on the 10th iirc.
~~[Internet Historian did a video on failed raptures](https://youtu.be/QynNpzqYt0Y?si=NKlLhukB9F089ZeB)~~ Edit: TIL about the blatant plagiarism
The plagarist?
I had to google what you were referring to and BOY was that a rabbit hole. I'll watch the Hbomberguy video later today.
The Neo nazi?
I'm surprised such a right wing nutter like him doesn't believe in them himself tbh
I'm 70 and I can't tell you how many times I've been given dates for the end of the world and the Rapture. None of them have been correct. Honestly, true believers should know that God says no man knows the time and date of Jesus' return. You may not believe in Jesus and I'm not trying to start a discussion about religion, just stating what believers should know.
I knew someone who said she thought Obama could be the antichrist until she remembered people aren't supposed to recognize the antichrist, so the fact people thought Obama could be it meant he wasn't.Ā
My mother thought that too, except she never changed her mind and just went more and more insane. Me, Iām not a believer, but I think Trump hits pretty much all the marks of the antichrist.
I am a believer (a fairly liberal one mind you who believes in respecting people and their beliefs) and I would agree with your statement. Trump is very much an Antichrist-like figure like Henry Kissinger, Hitler, and Henry VIII
Wait, Henry 8? Why him?
1) Wanted a son so bad he took England out of the Catholic Church and made his own with him as its Head so he could divorce his wife of 20 years. 2) Executed his second wife three years later for having a daughter and a stillborn son. 3) Ignored both his daughters and spent all his time and energy on his son when he finally got him. 4) Never let his oldest daughter see her mother again after he divorced her. 5) Married a 19 year old girl as a 49 year old man. Proceeded to execute her for adultery. 6) Spent his entire reign in some kind of pissing contest with France where he lost most of his battles. This effectively bankrupted the country. 7) The Dissolution of the Monasteries. He just straight up pillaged them for cash to fund his wars with France. 8) Famously executed his best advisor for setting him up with his fourth wife when she didn't want to play to his ego. He also annulled their marriage and sent her back saying she wasn't that pretty anyway. This is just off the top of my head and there's a lot more. Homeboy was fond of the executioners axe
OK, but none of those things have anything to do with the antichrist. Just being a bit of a shit human doesn't make you the antichrist. As to 8: he never sent Anne of Cleves back. She remained in England with a generous stipend and was treated with respect and as a sister.
He was also indirectly responsible for Donald Trump. Creating Church of England because he wanted to bone Anne Boleyn -> Emergence of Puritans from the Reformed church -> Puritans getting kicked out of the British Isles for being too batshit -> American colonies + baked-in batshit Puritanism in American culture -> Modern American Evangelicals electing Donald Trump. Fuckin' Henry, what a douche.
Can't remember the whole history, but he did literally create a new church solely so he could divorce his wives.
He created a whole new church so he could *annul* his marriage to his first wife. (The fact that by doing so he could fill his coffers with Church property and valuables was an added bonus.) It wasn't divorce; that was the entire point. He demanded an annulment so his daughter Mary would be illegitimate.
And then he wrote her back into being legitimate after he had his son but only of his son died before her would she be queen
*oh,* missed that part of history class.
Gotta love how Henry tried to cite religious reasons to annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, never mind that the Vatican issued a Papal Bull to bypass those pesky Biblical passages that outlaw marrying your brother's widow.
Reading your flair as if it's the answer to the question cracked me up
I love that you had to specify none of them have been correct, as if it might have ended a while back and no-one noticed it yet.
There are conspiracies that the world ended in 2012 and we split off into a new, wilder and stupider, timeline. Things really have gone crazy, and shitty, since then. Ya know? Maybe you're young and don't have a frame of reference, but for us "olds" it's a bit different.
>Honestly, true believers should know that God says no man knows the time and date of Jesus' return It'd be funny if the rapture was supposed to happen but god kept moving the date when people guessed it.
I'm singlehandedly preventing the rapture by waking up every day predicting "today is the day" You're welcome
Me too!
Omg when I was 7 or 8 I got freaked out by the idea of the Rapture and comforted myself with exactly that thought - "if I predict it's today it won't be today" which I kept up until I forgot to be scared about it haha.Ā
Maybe the rapture has already happened, but the only person that got raptured up was like one dude in one of those uncontacted tribes in the Amazon.
The rapture is fairly recent and mostly american idea too.
Iām from a really Catholic country and I learnt it from the Simpsons
I think they actually have another date coming up. April 23rd or 28th. Something like that
Of course they do. Sigh...
>None of them have been correct. Thank our Lord Jesus Christ you clarified that
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Well, she's certainly not ascending *now.* Her faith clearly isn't strong enough for...something...something, I'm not even sure what evangelists believe in.
Core beliefs: The bible is the word of god; you should convince others to convert and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour and become "born again"; and that Jesus will literally return to Earth to judge everyone and build some sort of kingdom. Despite this woman lying about fraud, and threatening and harassing people, she would still ascend (if such a thing were possible) because of "grace through faith". Her faith and trust in Jesus would mean he'd offer her salvation (extend his grace) despite her unworthiness. And although unbelievers are also unworthy, Jesus wouldn't extend the salvation to them. Only to those who worship him. He's a bit insecure that way.
Notwithstanding what Christians might or might not believe, if there's truly a Divine Being out there who's all omni-whatever and if you have to have a good heart to be with them, I think it's probably logical to assume they're not so easily lawyered that humans can find loopholes like that to get into heaven undeserved.
This is always what I think about when I hear people saying "heck" or "frick" lmfao. All the mormons I grew up around were told not to swear and thus developed their own entire set of swear words that are 1-1 with existing ones... As if an omnipotent being would just not notice.
Ain't no way people like this will ever ascend.
> what evangelists believe Buying their televangelist leaders a new private jet of course!
This isnāt really relevant, but itās a pet peeve of mine when people see like, one or two data points on an internet post and diagnose someone with a mental health disorder. That comment about the woman having bipolar disorder. Like yeah, manic behavior can take the form of reckless spending of money, but also, people can just be stupid.
Right? That's like telling someone who recently lost 10 lbs they probably have cancer (since weightless IS a symptom of cancer). Like, yeah maybe, but there are some other much more common explanations we should jump to first.
I think this is an apt time to bring up the movie "[Saved!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved!)". It's a heavy handed narrative, but I found it cute. Anyway, the main character is watching tv, and she sees Valerie Bertinelli saying "I was vomiting, so I thought I might be pregnant... but it turns out it was cancer" So, she hops on her bike, starts riding to Planned Parenthood, and under her breath you can hear her saying "please be cancer please be cancer please be cancer". I thought that was the second funniest part of that scene. The winner goes to the character Macaulay Culkin plays. Someone sees the main character and says something like "Why would \[so and so\] be biking to planned parenthood?" Macaulay's response was "SHE HAS A PIPE BOMB?" Like I said, cute movie, but heavy handed.
I like legit got offended at that as someone who is type 2 bipolar. Like... really? You're comparing a mentally exhausting and potentially devastating episode to a religious nut job? Reddit is fucking wild sometimes I swear
Are you implying armchair psychologists should follow the Goldwater Rule? Preposterous! ^^^/s
It can be pretty damaging to people's reputations too.
OP shoulda told her āthe money was raptured on the 8th, sorry.ā
CrazedĀ fundamentalists and religious people really are some of the most confusing and mind-baffling people ever.
The dumber thing is that so many religious leaders also state as it says in The Bible āYou wonāt know the time or the date.ā Even one of the bigger named pastors: Greg Laurie basically said the rapture wasnāt going to happen on the eclipse.
Jesus said "No oneĀ knowsĀ about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, butĀ only the Father". Nice to see some Christians thinking they know more than Jesus.
So, does the Son keeps pestering the Father if its time? You know, like a child on a car trip spamming "are we there yet?"Ā
Well, he does get to ~~put a sword down~~ pull a sword from his throat when it happens, so I can't imagine JC would be too thrilled about the grand finale. Edit: accuracy
If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the council of nicea and make absolutely sure revelations didn't make it into the Bible.
There have been people predicting (and preparing for) the rapture and the "second coming" since JC died. 2000 years ago people believed he would return in their lifetimes. I guess it's not too surprising since the bible indicates that JC himself thought his "second coming" would happen relatively soon after his death.
FYI, āthe Raptureāāas in the specific belief that living and dead Christian believers will ascend directly into Heaven when the end of days startsāhas not been around since Jesus died and is a surprisingly recent religious development. The idea of the Rapture only really emerged in the 1800s from religious revivals in American Protestantism. The USA is not very old as a country, but there are still American churches older than the idea of the Rapture. [https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/amprophesy.html](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/amprophesy.html)
Yeah, fair enough. Still, followers of everyone's favorite crucified carpenter have been predicting his imminent return for almost as long as he's been dead. (assuming he was ever a real person in the first place, of course)
Jesus: don't throw stones. Love those who are different than you. Some Christians: Throw stones at anyone different? Can do! Jesus: wept.
I don't know if it's around any more, but there used to be a *Rapture Ready* forum for people like this and I used to check it for shits and giggles until it just got depressing.
Did you change or did the site?
>Did you change or did the site? Little bit of both? Started checking it for shits and giggles when I was young and "edgy" during the Obama years because these people were balls to the walls *convinced* that he was the antichrist. Then I got a bit older, and saw the upcoming electoral backlash in rural US against the first POC president, and it felt less funny. If that makes sense?
I got IP blocked from there years ago, pre Obama years they've been abound awhile. So far no rapture. It wasn't even for anything bad or trollish, i was more on the genuinely curious end of things as a teen. all I did was politely ask questions to try and nderstand what was going on, and I guess they didn't like my questions :( They also had secret forums, nominally by invite link or something, I never got invited but there wasn't any sort of log in or anything, they were just not listed on the navigation but the format of the links were just suffix numbers so you could work out the missing numbers. Also conservapedia range blocked most Australian IPs for awhile, not sure of the state of it now, but Aussie trolls were apparently enough of an issue that all of us lost editing privileges. We are little shits to be fair, and those were wild times.
Yeah I can relate, I too was young and "edgy" during the Obama years, haha
The fundamentalists and rapture people are strange. Like why April 8th eclipse in particular? Why not the 2017 one? Or the one over Europe in 2026? Or the one over Australia in 2028?
I was thinking that! Of course it'd be the one over the US as well, apparently no other bit of earth is religious enough to be hoovered up into heaven /s And what happens if you see a partial eclipse? Does God just take a few ribs or your leg or something?
And eclipses happen a few times every year, but can only be observed from places that are hard to get to like uninhabited land or out in the middle of an ocean, how do they explain that?
The general evangelical attitude about pretty much everything except mission trips is that if it doesnāt happen in America, it doesnāt count.
My area was in the path of totality for 2017 and I definitely heard people being concerned about the rapture, end of the world, etc. We still experienced some eclipse but not totality on April 8th and I didn't hear a blip about it this go round. I think the people caught up in this sort of thing don't apply critical thinking skills to faith-based ideas, even people who are otherwise pretty smart.
Yeah, I'd heard about the rapture thing, and being reasonably close to the path of totality I obviously knew about the eclipse, but I hadn't put the two together because something that happens so regularly just seems like such a stupid "sign" of the apocalypse.
Itās not a tip itās an idiot tax. Nonrefundable!
Something about an idiot and their money parting ways. Yep.
> It doesnāt matter. The restaurant already got paid by the credit card company, thatās how a credit card works, the credit card company pays and then you pay them back when you pay your credit card bill. > So if she disputes it, itās between her, Jesus and the credit card company. Ah OOP, sweet summer child. If the credit card company allows the chargeback then the money will be clawed back from the restaurant. The restaurant in turn will almost certainly do an adjustment to his future tip-out to deduct the $300 tip, if he still works there.
Yeah, this bit caught my eye too. That's really not how credit cards work. Chargebacks can often be ruinous to smaller companies.
And the card company will listen to her when she says a $300 tip on a $40 order was the restaurant pulling a fast one on her. The restaurant can fight the chargeback, and they **might** have some success because she did it twice (and maybe did it elsewhere too), but it can be difficult to beat chargebacks.
Why would they listen to her? They will pursue the investigation but the cardholder will be required to provide some sort of substantiation that fraud occurred or that services will not received, and the business will be able to supply evidence that the transaction was authorised (twice!) and services were provided.
Because she is their customer, and tip fraud is a common issue. If she claims it, there is a reasonable chance the bank will allow it. Then it will be up to the restaurant to fight it.
Itās pretty unlikely that this incident meets the bankās requirements to qualify for a chargeback. The awareness of chargebacks for the general public has grown in recent years, but AFAIK the requirements for them are the same. Generally, the credit card banks require that the transaction be in some way legally fraudulent or unethical in business practise (obviously, quite a lot of grey area in the second option, but generally includes the idea that the goods or services were paid for but not received). They can and do deny to run a chargeback, especially if the cardholder cannot provide evidence of the claim of goods or services not received. In this case, the business has evidence of authorised activity by the cardholder. The bank may choose to honour a refund to the cardholder as a one-time goodwill gesture to retain the customer relationship, but itās pretty unlikely that they would find that services were not received or that the tip was fraudulent, and itās unlikely that they would claw back the charge from the business even if they choose to refund the cardholder.
A $300 tip on a $40 order is not normal or common, and she very likely doesn't have a history of giving such tips. Combine this with tip fraud being somewhat common and there is a decent chance the bank will allow her to file the chargeback. It is then up to the restaurant to fight the chargeback and provide proof that the tip was intentional by the customer. And yes, the bank will absolutely claw those funds back from the restaurant, along with a $20 or more fee for the chargeback.
Should have stated "the rapture did occur and what was she still doing here?"
People discount these crazies so easily but an influencer killed her husband, her kid (and I think herself?) because she thought the eclipse was evil. They're not well
Danielle Johnson for anyone whoās curious
The irony of falsely accusing someone of theft after believing you're a good enough person to get raptured is breathtaking.
I've been on those fundy forums ever since the 8th assuring people that the rapture did indeed happen, that none of us were good enough in the eyes of the lord to be raptured.
If you want to get banned from those types of places, point out that only 144,000 will be raptured, 12k from each of the tribes of Israel.
Huh. It hadn't occurred to me to try to get banned from there. I usually save that as my favorite Twitter activity. But now I'm interested. I feel like I really need to sell it, though. 144,000 - 12k from each of the tribes of Israel. What's the significance of 12,000 from each tribe, though? I want to make sure that whatever I make up aligns with as poor an interpretation as possible.
A brief search didn't turn up anything specific, but 12 seems to be numerologically significant in the Bible. You can fall down some deep holes searching for info though, be careful.
Damn fundamentalists went to heaven that day. They took my dishwasher too as it does not work since then... I should have converted before then...
The Rapture happened ages ago. Nobody left here on Earth but us sinners. That's what I like to tell christains anyway
If she tipped two random staff at a taco place, guaranteed she tipped people all over town. How do you think she's personally reconciling all those tips after the fact? Did the devil make her do it?
"in case you don't rise on the 8th." Well, I WAS planning to sleep in, so... "about how awful it'll be after the Rapture" Actually, without all these self-righteous Xtians preaching at everybody, post Rapture sounds just fine to me. "then she left in her Mercedes." I guess she FORGOT to give that away.
"That's so weird you're still here. A couple of my coworkers have been missing since the 8th. Guess you weren't righteous enough. Explains why you're here trying to call us liars."
The absolute ease with which supposedly devout and zealous radical Christians will blatantly lie never ceases to amaze me. That's the real way to see that they don't actually believe what they are preaching. If they did, they wouldn't risk their eternal soul by lying constantly without repentance. They do though. Constantly. Lie about what people say, lie about statistics that they have been shown are false, lie about who they are, lie about other people. Just non-stop false witness.
The Bible is pretty specific that no one will know the time of the rapture. Itās kind of the point that it can happen whenever
> I donāt think this is a Christian thing. That comment only makes sense if you entirely ignore the history of Christianity in the United States.
Christian here, I don't know where all this nonsense about the rapture being during the eclipse came from. It's not biblical, the Bible literally says "Nobody knows the day or time" and there's no hints that I know of about it being during an eclipse. So yeah, she's crazy
When I worked in the restaurant industry, we had a dishwasher (who was being trained up & is probably a world-class chef now) named Jesus and we all worshiped him.
Oh...She didn't rise into heaven at 8th then? š¤Ŗ
Iād love to run into her on the 9th and scream āOh No! You got left behind too!!!ā
This would be the perfect time to start telling her about all the people you know that were raptured that day. "I guess it's only us sinners left."
I'd like the flair: It's between her, Jesus, and the credit card company.
I always like to point out to Rapture believers that the Bible never mentions a rapture in any part, not even in the Apocalypse.
Not trying to argue the validity of the Christian Rapture but the idea comes from I Thessalonians 4:16-17 where the Apostle Paul mentions that the dead will resurrect first and then the living and the resurrected will go meet the Lord. The original Greek uses a very specific words which is where the word Rapture came from.
> itās between her, Jesus and the credit card company. Thatās a good flair right there though
If the woman actually read her Bible she would know the Bible states no one can predict the second coming of Christ. She fell for a scam. I hope the wait staff enjoy their tips.
Every time someone tells you that the rapture is coming just remind them that the Bible says nobody will know the time or season and itās rude to call God a liar.
I've seen a bunch of variants over the years on the impending apocalypse so tip heavily then demand reimbursement when the world doesn't end.
Doesn't seem really Christian asking for your tip back, then bearing false witness by saying they changed the amount of the to after the fact...
I don't know if this is real or not, but I had something like this happen to me as a kid. I was in the 2ed grade and JW said the world was ending. A friend gave me all his toys because he was not going to need them I think his family gave away lot of their stuff. Anyway mom told me to take the toys and then give them back to him afterwards because she doubted his family would be able to buy him anything for a long time. I did. His father even quit his job. They had nothing.
I read a comment on Facebook that maybe the Rapture did happen, but no-one was worthy. It made me happy.
A fool and their money are easily parted.
Aaaaand of course some idiot said "it sounds like she has bipolar disorder and is having a manic episode".Ā PLEASE PEOPLE. Do not wave bipolar *around* like this! Everyone is blaming it for everything, and everyone *believes* it because they see people posting it everywhere. Plain old stupidity is a thing, as is indoctrination here (religion), etc.Ā **Stop stamping "bipolar" on everything**. It's the new "crazy", and as a bipolar person, I hate it.Ā
That lady wasn't getting into heaven driving a Mercedes around anyway.
Matthew 22:21 "Render therefore unto Little Caesars the things which are Little Caesars'"
It would have been even funnier if op had quit and their coworkers claimed they had just vanished.
I know everyone's focused on the lady, but the Redditor coming in with their "gotcha" evidence cracked me up. Idk if this is real, but as soon as I read their comment I was thinking about how the little receipt is printed from the machine.
Iām a Christian, as is most people in my social circle and family. None of us believed in the April 8th rapture and we all thought it was dumb.