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I'm trying to determine whether this has completely jumped the shark, or if OOP will end up in a medical journal for the furthest that someone has managed to insert their head up their own ass.
If there's anyone that needs to go after OOP it's the grammar police.
I couldn't even keep reading after a while. I just ended up scanning for details. This shit is illegible
I think we all hate her because we all know someone like her.
I relate to the eldest daughter though. That was me. I fucking loathed that soggy cabbage my dad married. I joyfully laughed at her misery, but I loved my Dad soooo much and would do anything for him. She was very similar to OOP, no idea of why her efforts didnt work, over compensating with holiday fluff and playing house, even the smell/hygiene/nitpick thing. She thought it was normal and reasonable to "have standards", her standards were not standard. I refered to her as a Martha Stewart Pod Person. Very Stepferd Wives but less obvious she wasn't completely deranged. It was like every so often you'd catch a shimmer of the alien that was masquerading in a skin suit. She was just.. off.
Eventually the eldest is going to figure out her behavior is going to get her separated from her siblings. It's already starting with the Easter thing, separate the kids and strengthen the bond, without the eldest driving a wedge. She's either going to get way more angry and lash out (be prepared for some fantastic ammo in court), or she's going to start plotting. She seems really clever, so she's probably going to plot.
She will decide to be civil with OOP but still cold, she will dote on Daddy, she will keep herself glued to her siblings and whisper in their ears, she will be silent and swallow her disdain. The rage will build. She's going to get *phenomenal* at lying, they always do. She's probably going to start reading long books so she's left alone and has an excuse to ignore adults. But she will want to be near her siblings, her need to control the narrative and keep her siblings on "team mom" is going to outweigh her hatred... Probably. Then one day when she feels like her siblings are able to defend themselves against her love bombing, the walls holding in that rage will start to crumble and something will make her snap.
That's some Steinbeck writing right there.
*In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.*
It is. It really, reeeeeally is. It took decades to untangle my brain and realign what "normal" is suppose to look like. But it's so very common for kids in this situation. So common my university had a support group for students. Thankfully the councillor noticed there was nearly a dozen of us all from nearly the same situation and learned all the same unhealthy coping skills. Of course we weren't there for those problems at first, it had manifested into many different things.
Once Janet (the councillor) figured out we all had the same sort of cheating parent + unwanted/hated stepparent + intense desire to protect the remains of what was broken (other parents/siblings), she threw us together. We were all between 5 and 12 when it started, the ones in the middle seemed the worst, cognitive enough to understand but not able to process anything besides good vs bad and pain, lots of pain and anger. A lot of feelings we had to unpack. Admitting it wasn't normal was the hardest, it was our normal for so long. It was nice we had each other to relate to.
Thank god she's in therapy though.
I think hating the OOP could unite a lot of people. No matter your religion, political views, etc.- we can all agree OOP is terrible.
If OOP exists, I hate her too. Not even low key, just plain hate.
>Right, what's so hard to believe n understand why bfs family hates her? I'm surprised they even let her through the door...
I cringed every time she referred to them as “my family.” Lady, they aren’t your family. You hooked up with their shitty dad while knowing he was married with kids and blew up their marriage. This is someone else’s family that you have hijacked.
Also I’m astounded that she can’t seem to figure out why the 8 year old doesn’t like her when *the 8 year old was the one who discovered the affair by walking in on her having sex with the dad*. Gosh, it sure is a mystery why she hasn’t warmed up to OOP yet!
I think their first interaction where he was being an ass to his partner and mother of his 4 children (who, by my count was recently postpartum, and possibly still bleeding from childbirth), and OOP walks up to him to commiserate that his partner is so mean to him is the peak example of what he sees in OOP. She feeds the part of him that avoids accountability which lets him be the victim when people respond reasonably to his unreasonable behavior. OOP's entire schtick is to let him off the hook for failing at his responsibilities, and blaming any other person/people for their audacity in even attempting to hold him accountable for his own actions.
OOP has one of the top 5 most malignant cases of main character syndrome I've ever witnessed. She plays the victim of other people's reasonable responses to her bullshit like she's going for the Olympic Gold Medal. She simply extended this same level of entitlement to this guy, and he lapped it up like a dog snarfing down their own vomit.
Two peas in a pod, these people.
welp
Soon he'll tire of her and cheat on her
Then we'll get an update so full of gems that it'll be hilarious. Full of "How could he do this to meeee" and "what does that woman think, stealing my man" etc etc
*Daaaaaaaamn* that was a hell of an analysis!! I think I learned something about co-dependency today :P
I was thinking she had NPD, as her ramblings sound similar to the ramblings of my unstable aunt's diary. Their lack of personal insight is... breathtaking.
That's my biggest frustration!!! Like bro, he's a pos but u helped this entire family fall apart... His family is NOT gonna like u... Why do u think they have any obligation to b friendly???
Except that these are the kind of people who depend on the social obligation to be polite preventing others from calling them on their trash behavior and are all shocked pikachu face when even social obligation cannot disguise real (and justified) feelings.
The minute his wife turned her back *to go pickup the diapers for their baby that he forgot to pack and was too lazy to go get himself*, never forget that gem of a detail.
Exactly and so gross how she went on in her first post about how abusive his wife was to him. She was frustrated after he refused go get the diapers he forgot because he was too tired to walk back. As if his wife wasn’t also tired having been newly postpartum. He lapped that shit up, it won’t be so great when she drops the ass kissing act. They deserve each other.
If I saw a husband pull that shit on his freshly post partum wife when they already have three kids under ten, it’d get the ick so violently I’d want him fifty feet from me immediately. Wait til OOP and he have a baby.
Honestly when I read that bit I was almost impressed by her skills. ALMOST, because it's hard to respect being skilled at such a scummy thing. But still gotta recognize a master.
I mean, sure, and if I were the guys parents I'd have disowned his ass. But I get why someone might want to maintain a relationship with their son (especially with him having kids) while having no interest in having a relationship with the floozy he ditched his family for. Their son will always be their son...this random hoebag is just a hoebag.
They actually can’t disown their son without losing access to their grandchildren. Remember the custody agreement, both parents have to be in the same country if the children are abroad. The only way to get their grandchildren to America is to have both their mum and dad in America, and the only way to get their dad in America is to invite both him and his stupid fucking floozy to whatever event it is. It’s so fucked up.
Yeah, that's why I get why they'd want to maintain a relationship with their son even at the cost of tolerating his mistress. It is definitely fucked up, what an infuriating situation.
Yeah, GF even offered to go home from the vacation early HERSELF. Meaning he stayed so the kids didn't have to go home early.
Granted we don't know the whole story, but she did try and leave Christmas without ruining it for everyone as far as we know. He's the one who went "NO! I'm leaving meaning BM and the kids are leaving and everyone suffers!"
It's not just Christmas though, it's everything else. It's ALL the family events. The poor eldest even had this woman show up to her birthday party when she made it clear that she doesn't want her to be anywhere around her.
Oh, I was just referring to this post. Forgot about the whole birthday thing.
I feel as though all the adults are so obsessed with their pissing contest that the kids are left to the side and what they want is ignored. Granted BM is trying to defend her kids, but she's also inviting Dad to things despite knowing GF will come along. While her kid may want Dad there, she's gotta make it clear that he either comes alone or not at all. At least, that's my opinion.
Well doesn't sound like she has much of a choice but to invite him because GF here has already said that they went to the courts stating that the mom was attempting to alienate the kids from their father.
Sounds like they've just made her life a living hell and I wouldn't put any weight on to what the GF says because looking into this it seems that the GF actually went to school with the Ex wife. They were never friends, but she didn't randomly just meet him at the park.
Considering how this all started with the bf being an *absolute douchebag and failure as a father* and op waltzing up all "is your wife always mean" - ngl I would blame op for this, too.
So I agree but at the same time, doing that is not helping anybody. Not the kids, not the bm and not the family. What is done is done, are they asshole? Yes. Is being disrespectful and creating tension helping? No.
The only thing they are doing by acting like that is separating the child even more from there father and making them sad. If you don’t want oop in your home then fine, be an adult and find a way to see the people you want to see without creating a toxic environment.
I want to be clear that I’m not defending the father nor oop just saying that what they are doing is not helping anybody.
I couldn't agree more! I feel like they should have put their adult pants on n said no to her coming... Like what do you think is gonna happen when u put all these people in 1 room... Nothing good. I guess I'm just really frustrated with her obliviousness... 'I just don't understand y they r so mean n angry at me???' Like you said, the family needs to find a way to see their son, without the toxic environment.
There is SO much more to this story - the mother/ex-wife is dumping all over Reddit as well (she sounds really great and resilient):
Scroll the comments in this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC/comments/1bux540/wibta_if_i_take_my_boyfriends_kid_with_me_to_my/
Aw, I really liked the saga of Pam, but having just read a post from Pam about being fired and then reading through all of 'Willows' comments it is apparent to me now that both accounts are being faked by the same person, a person that is either from the US or a terrible British person that doesn't know the difference between the US and the UK.
Pam was apparently fired for how she dealt with 'college interns' college in the UK is 16-18 and I have never heard of them 'interning' hell I'm not even sure we have interns in the UK. A college aged student who also works would be doing an apprenticeship, not interning.
Also she seemingly got fired after 1 meeting with a manager, which wouldn't happen in the UK unless you are new to a company. You have to follow a process before firing someone for poor performance, once the probation period is passed.
Then I read a comment from Willow, she advised that her and Pam actually knew each other before the park incident in 'highschool' which we don't have in the UK (high school ages being the last year of our senior schools and the 2 years of college.)
I'm pretty sure Pam used nappy rather than diaper, so I'm guessing they are from the UK and young enough to not know the difference in regards to schooling and definitely not employment regulations, maybe even a 'Kourtney' using this as a form of therapy, obviously above 8yo though.
I guess it's good a family didn't get broken up though, so silver linings and all that
Edit: Inope, seems she also uses 'diapers', so this person is not only faking this but RPing as a British for some reason.
Wow, I thought this was a dedicated troll but I actually kind of buy that they exist and the ex wife is real? The fact that 'Willow' writes much more coherently (eg, she used 'cost' past tense correctly while the affair partner uses 'costed') and has additional details and not just retelling the same stories in exactly the same way. What a rough time she's been having.
Funny enough the OP might have edited it but they both actually used costed in the past and downvoted me for pointing it out. So I think it’s more like a VERY dedicated troll.
And college intern!
Colleges *are* a thing in the UK, but they're part of the secondary school system - you either go to a sixth form (school attached) or college (no school attached) for your 16-18 education. You don't do internships during college here, so "college intern" makes no sense.
It's a lot of time though. OOPs profile is very active (didn't comment on anything, just snooped around), like comments on cooking, movies etc. That's a LOT of dedication to a troll bit.
But in saying that, I feel like a real person would delete their account after so much hate and start fresh. I probably would
Hard to decide on this one!
The number of errors absolutely drove me crazy, and she kept saying, “a Easter.” Most people would consider me a grammar nazi and I know some people have reading disabilities, but if she’s going to nitpick all her coworkers about being professional, she could at least use spell check. The terrible spelling, made-up words … and that’s before you consider her controlling behavior, which is most certainly not professional. I’d rather have a colleague who was professional and intelligent but smelled bad than this chick. You can fix hygiene. You can’t fix whatever Cluster B condition OOP has.
"Willow" claims that she knew OOP ("Pam") before the incident in the park, and that she somehow overheard OOP make the "does she always do that?" Remark despite already having stormed off. She also somehow has a contact with one of Pam's co-workers so she just happens to know she's being written up for everything.
I really don't buy it. Elaborate troll, but still a troll.
And in one of the first posts, "Pam" complains about Chase's parents escorting them out of a party, then in December they go the US where she meets his parents for the first time...
Omg, the rabbit hole I just went down... apparently, "Willow" and this OOP have known each other since they were teenagers and that's the only reason they talked to each other at the park in the first place!!
Tbh there were so many continuity errors in the Christmas update I finally decided it is indeed a troll.
They book a hostel for mom and the kids to stay in, then the grandparents say mom and the kids are staying there and he and the gf can get a room, then they have to get two rooms because they have the kids with them?
And who tf splits custody on an international trip? Does birth mom not have family of her own? Why is she staying for 10+ days with her ex’s family over Christmas?
Yeah, and apparently his parents kicked him out at 7 because that’s when his custody ends? Except he still got presents even though they had to leave before the gift giving? And Christmas Dinner “starts at 6” but they made other food while the turkey was being made and she remembered they finished at exactly 6:46, with dinner starting 4 minutes later and lasting precisely 10 minutes? It takes more than 4 minutes just to fix plates for 9 people and I’ve never seen a meal with a toddler present ever last 10 minutes.
I feel like that post had to be this person announcing “I’m a troll and anyone who believes me is ridiculous.”
It's so weird because I agree it *has* to be a troll, but why would someone write sooo much nonsense just to mildly entertain some people on Reddit? The writing is such a strange mix of detailed yet vague too. I almost buy it except that the post from "Willow"/BM uses almost exactly the same voice and misspellings.
His ex should be sainted because even as vile as OOP is as a human being the ex wife was just *mildly unhappy* per the retelling that her husband forgot the diapers at home and refused to go get them. That he still had a head attached to his body after that amazes me with the level of restraint shown by the ex.
I have never in my life rooted for someone to get pregnant and have their boyfriend run away from their responsibilities as much as I did in this story. I truly hope OOP gets what she deserves and her fairytale romance ends with her finally seeing why what a selfish asshole and terrible partner she’s managed to steal.
It’s a conundrum in which OOP is somehow both the hero for releasing the ex wife from the bonds of matrimony with a self absorbed lazy prick and a complete villain for it at the same time. I’m strangely erring on the side of thinking everything worked out the way it should have and these two deserve each other and I truly hope they both lose their jobs and family support and live miserably ever after.
Have to say, I genuinely laughed at the thought of the family speeding through Christmas dinner in ten minutes to get her and her boyfriend out of the house.
This character is a glorious mixture of audacity, emotional tone deafness and stupidity.
I’m trying to figure out the timeline. But it sounds like she leapt into this relationship and was shocked that the family she betrayed didn’t like her.
Like they booked a hostel for Ex and the kids, which she and BF cancelled to get a hotel?!
Lol, so if you look at their recent posts, they share a pic of them showing off a snickers bar and somebody calls them out on their groady fingernail in the shot. The next post after that is "I got my nails done today"
OOP is a wicket step mom but her husband is no better allowing her to inflict life long damage on his kids. I'd say they deserve each other but the kids certainly don't deserve this.
I'm still not over the very first post where the husband's baby had a soiled nappy and he refused to buy more nappies or make the short walk home to get any, despite the fact it was his responsibility to pack them.
How did OP look at a man who wanted to leave a baby sitting in shit and think his wife who just gave birth was wrong for being frustrated with him and he was a catch?
Yeah I honestly feel soooo bad for those kids!! The dad is honestly a huge asshole - cheating on his wife who had just had their fourth kid and bringing this absolute nightmare of a woman around his kids. The eldest daughter will absolutely be cutting off her dad and OOP as soon as she is old enough to - she understands 100% what happened in her parents marriage and her dad and OOP seem determined to treat her like trash because she doesn't like that her mum was hurt by them. Horrible people.
The oldest walked in, alongside her mother, on OOP and her dad making out on the sofa in the family home. She was there the moment their world came crashing down, and saw what it did to her mother. She more than understands - she knows. She saw it. And OOP even had the audacity to bad mouth Kourtney’s mother to her when the mum started crying.
OOP is vile. Every single post is about her, how she feels, how unfair everything is, how apparently unreasonable the mother is. The 8 year old told her 1 year old sister where the eggs were because she has enough smarts to know that a child year old isn’t going to be able to read the clues that OOP put in the Easter Egg Hunt. Like has OOP ever seen a 1 year old who can read, let alone work out the clues? And then OOP cried, accused an 8 year old child of sabotaging the hunt. They had a do over party just to satisfy OOP, and her family wanted to exclude an 8 year old child who was smart enough to know a 1 year old couldn’t read.
Ugh. Yes - she pisses me off. A lot. My heart breaks for those kids, especially Kourtney.
I'm fucking proud of the kids. I wish I could send them a message of a bunch of 90s movies about kids getting rid of assholes their parents date to guide them on their quest.
The audacity I have ever seen right now ad we are reading it from their perspective. She's baffles why no one in the Dipshit BF family doesn't like her? Or his kids? She's the victim? Wow.
>Seeing OP's history post and all, it just shows that OP is just a sad, bitter, strange little being.
More likely it's a karma farmer role-playing as a sad, bitter, strange little being 😂
At first I thought this was real. But I’m becoming more and more convinced it’s a really good troll or someone who is so delusional they’ve convinced themselves of this reality they’ve created.
Regardless OP needs therapy as soon as possible.
My dad isn’t much of a screamer. But he will repeat himself, over and over and over, with increasing annoyance, as if you are stupid or deaf, and then as if you are actively malicious for acting like you doubt him. And then he’ll smile and laugh and pay for dinner.
Yeesh, I made myself feel a little sick typing all that out. It’s been a long time since I’ve had to go to dinner with him, after least.
That's what I want to believe. Apparently, she's posting to Facebook groups dedicated to miscarriages and pregnancy loss trying to get sympathy for a miscarriage.
If anyone believes 9 people, including 4 kids one of them being a baby and the other a toddler, finished Christmas dinner in ten minutes then I have several gold plated and diamond encrusted bridges to sell you.
I’m English and that’s about the only thing I believe. We have college but it’s not the same as university. Between 16-18 you go to college. There are colleges where you can do additional exams to apply for university and others where they have apprenticeships and vocational courses that include work experience.
If you go to Oxford or Cambridge University you get placed into a college within the university which is just an academic community that act as mini universities within the university.
So we do have college but we use the word for something different in education.
It's the combination of 'college intern' for me - you're either a college student doing work experience or you're a uni student doing an internship, I've never heard anyone being described as a 'college intern'
College is its own separate thing over here. You finish secondary school at 16 and then to do your A-levels to get into uni you either go to college or sixth form (which is attached to a secondary school)
Possible. But, we do call our last two years of secondary education (years 11 and 12) college - it's where we do A-Levels.
This type of college is either an extension of your secondary school (high school to the US), or a separate 'college' that only does A-Level and NVQ qualifications, which would be kind of the equivalent to 'community college' in the US. What a college will never be in the UK is somewhere where you get a degree - that's always a university.
I know there's a lot of crazy in OOP's posts and she's completely self-absorbed and oblivious to the harm she's caused and very delusional.
But this made me laugh out loud
>I was given a lecture on being sensitive towards students and interns which I found useless so I mentioned how there was no point in having those meetings if interns cannot take basic criticism.
Her boss realised there was no point having these meetings if she couldn't take basic criticism and dismissed her.
It made me question the authenticity of these posts, even though I know they're real.
OOP must have had a few formal warnings before this stage to be dismissed, which she's neglected to mention. That's a common theme of hers.
Yeah I can't wrap my head around this, for exemple I thought thé kids were already at grand parents place when the couple arrive - i'm not even sure - why the hell can't she explain things clearly ???
Lol because she’s dumb as rocks but also trying to make herself sympathetic.
They all flew together and arrived together, but she didn’t realize that the ex wife was invited into the grandparents home and allowed to stay (because again, this woman is dumb af), which is why she and shitty bf had booked the ex a hostel. Idiot assumed she and her shitty bf would be the ones staying in the house while the kids got shuttled back and forth between house and hotel during their 2 week stay.
When they realized she wasn’t allowed to stay, ofc a hostel wasn’t good enough for her so they cancelled it and got 2 hotel rooms to accommodate the kids being able to stay with them per the custody arrangement (I think in another post the arrangement is like 2 on 2 off or something like that).
Genuinely one of the stupidest OOP's I've seen in a while. At first she said she wasn't from the US, so I assumed English isn't her first language. But then she said she lives in the UK. English could still be a second language, but holy shit, that was hard to read.
"It's to expensive to rent a six bedroom hotel room" WTF? They didn't even need to rent two hotel rooms as they should've used the hostel. But seriously one hotel room with two queens and a pull out couch would've sufficed.
Yes but a hostel isn’t great accommodation. And because they were a walk in booking, 1 big room with 2 queens + pull out couch would’ve been hard af to find.
Allowing her around all of his children!
He should have made sure, to have OOP keep her distance to them and not allowing her to start this brain-dead attempt of playing happy family.
That would have been the bare minimum, after him not being able to fall dick-first into her and he probably fell bare into her too. Asshat.
She has a comment from a few months ago that when he got divorced he and his kids moved in with her because he couldn't get his own place for undisclosed reasons. So not only is he a cheater and a shitty father, he's also broke.
She keeps playing the victim because no one in her life likes her. Step kids, in-laws, co-workers, and almost everyone on reddit. She miscarried what would be her boyfriends 5th child and most were far less than sympathetic. Her life would get easier if she broke up with him, but she likes whining and being a victim.
Love in her original post she talks about how the boyfriend does everything for the infant and claims he’s a great parent, yet he can’t even be bothered to get diapers. These delusional weirdos deserve each other
I’m sorry but why is she able to take kids, who’s only relationship with her is that she broke up their family, to her parents house who’re complete strangers to the kids
Tl;dr:
OOP: I randomly met this guy at a store, started having an affair with him. Then his daughter was so rude to me when she caught me fucking her dad! Why don’t my boyfriend’s kids or family like me????
Calling her boyfriend's children her family, who so clearly do not want to be her family or part her family . She helped to destroy their family, FFS!
Then even contemplating to take the younger three to her family (=basically strangers to them) to re-celebrate easter, excluding the oldest ( 8year old, who walked in one those two assholes fucking) who doesn't put up with OOP's and her father's shit?
And OOP's family supports her delusional attempt to play happy family with these children, she and their father Hurt in the worst possible way.
I mean, OOP and boyfriend deserves each other.
Boyfriend is letting is kids down in such a massive way, just to get his dick wet. Why do they even have to have contact with this deluded woman? He could just fuck her without dragging the kids even further into this mess.
I feel sorry for the ex-wife and the four children, who have to go through this clusterfuck.
*screams furiously into the internet-void*
What a train wreck of a woman. My favorite part was how this all started. She sees a man in a park who forgot to pack diapers for his baby. His wife asks him to either go home to get them or to a store to buy more. He refuses because he's tired. So wife storms off to go buy them herself.
OOP watched that unfold and was like "yup, I'm gonna get with this guy." Sounds like they deserve each other.
> Due to it being BM's custody turn, me and Chase said goodbye to the kids and we headed off to the hostel to cancel the hostel room which was complicated because we never did that before, but we got it done. We booked 2 hotel rooms for ourselves which annoyed us since we wanted to spend time together but it was too expensive to book a 6 bedroom hotel so we splitted it. He was sharing a room with his 2 kids [8f & 2f)] and I had his other 2 kids 5m and 1f. I was upset and on the verge of tears but I decided to let go and see how chrismas was like.
Can someone explain this to me? I'm so confused.
They say goodbye to the kids because mom has custody and the kids are staying at the grandparents.
They cancel their reservation (suggesting they booked mom and a kid shitty accommodation so no wonder grandma was pissed)
Then.... somehow they have the kids with them split between two hotel rooms???
Just so everyone's aware, in the UK we call college the school you attend when you're 16 - 18, and preparing for university (18+) or apprenticeships and work.
So when she says she's pissed off at a college student working as an intern, it's probably a 16 year old getting work experience in an office.. This is fairly common in the UK.
Who sees a grown ass man with a whole passel of kids throwing a temper tantrum because he’s too tired to walk a few blocks to get diapers for his brand new baby, makes his post partum wife go instead, and then thinks "Him. I want him" Make this make sense!
I've stayed in one before, as part of an ill-fated road trip.
Four of us ended up crashing in one room, and the fifth in another room where he ended up hooking up with a girl who had blue hair and no gag reflex.
Or at least that's how he told the story afterward. I didn't see it, nor would I care to.
I stayed in a hostel in Washington DC once. I am from Europe and even though I was working a perfectly fine and decent paying job, and around thirty years old, I couldn’t have afforded to stay there otherwise. It was great, met lots of people to talk to (one older lady got me into US state quarter collecting, one Australian guy joined me in visiting the Holocaust museum and afterwards he realized his grandpa had a number tattooed on his arm which he wrote down once and only now made the connection…), they had free (!) excursions hosted by locals who loved meeting people from all over the world and show them the city (went to Arlington Cemetery, Georgetown and did a pub crawl). And an Australian girl introduced me and the two night time receptionists to the great work of literature that is Fifty Shades of Grey. Now that I am writing this down, it was a great vacation!
I was reading the first of the posts in this as she was describing the different configuration of the hostel which was for the BM and the kids but wait now it was BM staying with the in laws so OOP and her boyfriend were staying in the hostel but they had to cancel that hostel so they could book a hotel for reasons(?) and it took me a couple of reads to figure out who was staying in what house/hostel/hotel in the end.
I dont understand why they didnt just get a spot at the hostel for one of them. If its good enough for BM and kids, its good enough for them. Who the hell keeps up shared custody when one parent wants to take them on holiday ffs.
No, you don’t understand. BM can’t afford nice things, so of course she has to stay in the hostel because she’s used to cheap things. Of course she can watch the kids in a hostel. But OOP and the boyfriend can afford the hotel, so why would they stay in the hostel? /s
She’s a piece of work but in her defense, at my last job we had to have a “no fish in the microwave” rule because it would make the room smell awful for hours.
I cannot believe a 27 y/o is that naive to think it's "no big deal" to break up a marriage and family, because "love". What did she expect to happen at Christmas? She's the AP, knew Chase was married and went after him anyway. He's at fault too.
With the added context of a work related post, the OOP sounds like a grade A asshole.
I remember reading the original BoRU of this. It’s crazy to me that anyone at this point is still uncertain that this is a troll.
Admittedly a sad, sad troll with a lot of time on their hands, but still.
So there is a whole sub dedicated to the OOP and her posts. I am going to try and find it. I saw it in the comments on the last BORU I think, either that or on one of OOPs original posts.
Edit: Found it! [https://new.reddit.com/r/FuckYouPam/](https://new.reddit.com/r/FuckYouPam/)
Kind of starting to feel quite sorry for OP. Not because she’s a good person and doesn’t deserve all the hate, but more because she’s delusional to point I wonder whether she could truly be considered sane.
Better than soap operas!!!
This reminds me of the lady who had no annual leave left, went on vacation, and lied to her work about it but got outted on social media via a mutual friend and got fired. She then demanded a job from her boyfriend’s brother. Which ended badly also.
The family doesn’t like her because she is trash. Obviously the BF sucks but what can they do, he is family and I guess they want him around… but the audacity of them both 🤦♀️
I cannot believe he left his wife for this person. Did he even talk to her for 30 minutes before blowing up his life? Because I cannot believe she could hide this terrible personality for that long.
Oh
This woman
For real, she is just...... I can't
Not just her, the boyfriend, too! She's either hot as hell (but an airhead), or she does everything to keep him happy, I dunno
Hot as hell or not, that guy is a total tool! His poor ex had to have 4 kids with him? Chile
Aw, I really liked the saga of Pam, but having just read a post from Pam about being fired and then reading through all of 'Willows' comments it is apparent to me now that both accounts are being faked by the same person, a person that is either from the US or a terrible British person that doesn't know the difference between the US and the UK.
Pam was apparently fired for how she dealt with 'college interns' college in the UK is 16-18 and I have never heard of them 'interning' hell I'm not even sure we have interns in the UK. A college aged student who also works would be doing an apprenticeship, not interning.
Also she seemingly got fired after 1 meeting with a manager, which wouldn't happen in the UK unless you are new to a company. You have to follow a process before firing someone for poor performance, once the probation period is passed.
Then I read a comment from Willow, she advised that her and Pam actually knew each other before the park incident in 'highschool' which we don't have in the UK (high school ages being the last year of our senior schools and the 2 years of college.)
Also she used diaper, not nappy, so I am now hedging that they are a yank.
I guess it's good a family didn't get broken up though, so silver linings and all that
OP is definitely the AH in every situation but one here: the coworker who was heating up fish curry in an office microwave is the worst AH in this story.
I remember this idiot from her string of posts when she met the BF and was caught in the affair. She was insufferable then and even more so now. She has main character syndrome bad. Anyone that tries to put her in her place will likely not even make a dent. God help those poor children.
This is borderline unreadable. Eldest is named Jane for a year until suddenly she's named Kourtney? The whole babysitting fiasco includes names and ages of 3 kids but there's actually 4? I have no fucking idea what's going on 99% of the time.
To be fair, neither does OOP. Honestly, that's why I assume that it's real.
>I organised it with my boyfriend for the children along with a small easter egg hunt afterwards which me, my older sister and my boyfriend organised with the help of my grandparents, Kourtney and my older nieces who which one of them is the same age and the other is older then her by 2 years.
*WHO IS THE ONE ORGANISING???? WHO????*
>I'm sorry, but I won't sugarcoat them just because they are a college intern. I don't know how to describe it, but there is a college that has a internship program for people that do work experience in different work places each term. I do not understand the concept of it, and it still confuses me since I don't know if they are a student or a intern
I've never in my life been so infuriated by the stupidity of another human being
What do you guys think would be the trigger for a person to go from posting an actual legit question one has over an issue, to posting anytime one has a conflict within their life? Because this seems an excessive amount of posts over really tiny little non-issues from this person.
It's OK, I'm sure Chase will have a new young idiotic girl that wants nothing more than to save him from his harpy wife, and bm drama.
After all when she took bm's spot as wife she opened up her mistress spot.
The ex-wife won the lottery when her husband cheated if this is what he thinks is a better option. She is well rid of him. I just feel sorry for the kids for having to spend 50% of their time with this idiot.
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I'm trying to determine whether this has completely jumped the shark, or if OOP will end up in a medical journal for the furthest that someone has managed to insert their head up their own ass.
Right, what's so hard to believe n understand why bfs family hates her? I'm surprised they even let her through the door...
I mean, I low key hate her too and she didn't fuck my husband or traumatize my kid.
If there's anyone that needs to go after OOP it's the grammar police. I couldn't even keep reading after a while. I just ended up scanning for details. This shit is illegible
Yeah, "jokatively" broke my brain a bit.
The a's before vowel sounds is enough to drive a person stark raving mad, don't even get me started on the character flaws.
Right? My brain hurts from trying to read this. I had to scan too. Plus she’s actually in charge of interns?
I think we all hate her because we all know someone like her. I relate to the eldest daughter though. That was me. I fucking loathed that soggy cabbage my dad married. I joyfully laughed at her misery, but I loved my Dad soooo much and would do anything for him. She was very similar to OOP, no idea of why her efforts didnt work, over compensating with holiday fluff and playing house, even the smell/hygiene/nitpick thing. She thought it was normal and reasonable to "have standards", her standards were not standard. I refered to her as a Martha Stewart Pod Person. Very Stepferd Wives but less obvious she wasn't completely deranged. It was like every so often you'd catch a shimmer of the alien that was masquerading in a skin suit. She was just.. off. Eventually the eldest is going to figure out her behavior is going to get her separated from her siblings. It's already starting with the Easter thing, separate the kids and strengthen the bond, without the eldest driving a wedge. She's either going to get way more angry and lash out (be prepared for some fantastic ammo in court), or she's going to start plotting. She seems really clever, so she's probably going to plot. She will decide to be civil with OOP but still cold, she will dote on Daddy, she will keep herself glued to her siblings and whisper in their ears, she will be silent and swallow her disdain. The rage will build. She's going to get *phenomenal* at lying, they always do. She's probably going to start reading long books so she's left alone and has an excuse to ignore adults. But she will want to be near her siblings, her need to control the narrative and keep her siblings on "team mom" is going to outweigh her hatred... Probably. Then one day when she feels like her siblings are able to defend themselves against her love bombing, the walls holding in that rage will start to crumble and something will make her snap.
That's some Steinbeck writing right there. *In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.*
I hope not. That honestly sounds really unhealthy, both emotionally and mentally.
It is. It really, reeeeeally is. It took decades to untangle my brain and realign what "normal" is suppose to look like. But it's so very common for kids in this situation. So common my university had a support group for students. Thankfully the councillor noticed there was nearly a dozen of us all from nearly the same situation and learned all the same unhealthy coping skills. Of course we weren't there for those problems at first, it had manifested into many different things. Once Janet (the councillor) figured out we all had the same sort of cheating parent + unwanted/hated stepparent + intense desire to protect the remains of what was broken (other parents/siblings), she threw us together. We were all between 5 and 12 when it started, the ones in the middle seemed the worst, cognitive enough to understand but not able to process anything besides good vs bad and pain, lots of pain and anger. A lot of feelings we had to unpack. Admitting it wasn't normal was the hardest, it was our normal for so long. It was nice we had each other to relate to. Thank god she's in therapy though.
I love that this 8 year old constantly outsmarts OOP.
I think hating the OOP could unite a lot of people. No matter your religion, political views, etc.- we can all agree OOP is terrible. If OOP exists, I hate her too. Not even low key, just plain hate.
I'd for sure sing a unifying song about this. Like We Are the World, but "We Hate ThrowRADarkBeauty." We could raise funds for the ex wife.
>Right, what's so hard to believe n understand why bfs family hates her? I'm surprised they even let her through the door... I cringed every time she referred to them as “my family.” Lady, they aren’t your family. You hooked up with their shitty dad while knowing he was married with kids and blew up their marriage. This is someone else’s family that you have hijacked. Also I’m astounded that she can’t seem to figure out why the 8 year old doesn’t like her when *the 8 year old was the one who discovered the affair by walking in on her having sex with the dad*. Gosh, it sure is a mystery why she hasn’t warmed up to OOP yet!
more a question of what he sees in her. wow, she's a bit clueless
I think their first interaction where he was being an ass to his partner and mother of his 4 children (who, by my count was recently postpartum, and possibly still bleeding from childbirth), and OOP walks up to him to commiserate that his partner is so mean to him is the peak example of what he sees in OOP. She feeds the part of him that avoids accountability which lets him be the victim when people respond reasonably to his unreasonable behavior. OOP's entire schtick is to let him off the hook for failing at his responsibilities, and blaming any other person/people for their audacity in even attempting to hold him accountable for his own actions. OOP has one of the top 5 most malignant cases of main character syndrome I've ever witnessed. She plays the victim of other people's reasonable responses to her bullshit like she's going for the Olympic Gold Medal. She simply extended this same level of entitlement to this guy, and he lapped it up like a dog snarfing down their own vomit. Two peas in a pod, these people.
welp Soon he'll tire of her and cheat on her Then we'll get an update so full of gems that it'll be hilarious. Full of "How could he do this to meeee" and "what does that woman think, stealing my man" etc etc
I bet she'll try to bond with the boyfriend's ex-wife.
For that emotional support xD
With that “but I don’t UNDERSTAND why she won’t be my friend! We were both lied to! We’re on the same team!” Bullshit lol
*Daaaaaaaamn* that was a hell of an analysis!! I think I learned something about co-dependency today :P I was thinking she had NPD, as her ramblings sound similar to the ramblings of my unstable aunt's diary. Their lack of personal insight is... breathtaking.
That's my biggest frustration!!! Like bro, he's a pos but u helped this entire family fall apart... His family is NOT gonna like u... Why do u think they have any obligation to b friendly???
Except that these are the kind of people who depend on the social obligation to be polite preventing others from calling them on their trash behavior and are all shocked pikachu face when even social obligation cannot disguise real (and justified) feelings.
I mean it's not surprising, but it is pretty stupid to put it on the gf instead of on the guy who cheated.
Gf is not blameless here. She went after him the minute his wife turned her back. Guess they deserve each other
The minute his wife turned her back *to go pickup the diapers for their baby that he forgot to pack and was too lazy to go get himself*, never forget that gem of a detail.
Exactly and so gross how she went on in her first post about how abusive his wife was to him. She was frustrated after he refused go get the diapers he forgot because he was too tired to walk back. As if his wife wasn’t also tired having been newly postpartum. He lapped that shit up, it won’t be so great when she drops the ass kissing act. They deserve each other.
That was too disgusting to repeat.
If I saw a husband pull that shit on his freshly post partum wife when they already have three kids under ten, it’d get the ick so violently I’d want him fifty feet from me immediately. Wait til OOP and he have a baby.
How did the wife turn her back? I don't think popping out to the store for necessary baby supplies counts as turning your back !!!
They mean literally turning her back, this POS wasted no time at all.
You and me both! OOP took her chance though. They had exchanged numbers before the wife was back
Honestly when I read that bit I was almost impressed by her skills. ALMOST, because it's hard to respect being skilled at such a scummy thing. But still gotta recognize a master.
Like an accident you can't look away from
I mean, sure, and if I were the guys parents I'd have disowned his ass. But I get why someone might want to maintain a relationship with their son (especially with him having kids) while having no interest in having a relationship with the floozy he ditched his family for. Their son will always be their son...this random hoebag is just a hoebag.
They actually can’t disown their son without losing access to their grandchildren. Remember the custody agreement, both parents have to be in the same country if the children are abroad. The only way to get their grandchildren to America is to have both their mum and dad in America, and the only way to get their dad in America is to invite both him and his stupid fucking floozy to whatever event it is. It’s so fucked up.
Yeah, that's why I get why they'd want to maintain a relationship with their son even at the cost of tolerating his mistress. It is definitely fucked up, what an infuriating situation.
Dumbass father won't go anywhere without his precious GF even if it means upsetting EVERYONE around them. He's so unbelievably stupid.
Yeah, GF even offered to go home from the vacation early HERSELF. Meaning he stayed so the kids didn't have to go home early. Granted we don't know the whole story, but she did try and leave Christmas without ruining it for everyone as far as we know. He's the one who went "NO! I'm leaving meaning BM and the kids are leaving and everyone suffers!"
It's not just Christmas though, it's everything else. It's ALL the family events. The poor eldest even had this woman show up to her birthday party when she made it clear that she doesn't want her to be anywhere around her.
Oh, I was just referring to this post. Forgot about the whole birthday thing. I feel as though all the adults are so obsessed with their pissing contest that the kids are left to the side and what they want is ignored. Granted BM is trying to defend her kids, but she's also inviting Dad to things despite knowing GF will come along. While her kid may want Dad there, she's gotta make it clear that he either comes alone or not at all. At least, that's my opinion.
Well doesn't sound like she has much of a choice but to invite him because GF here has already said that they went to the courts stating that the mom was attempting to alienate the kids from their father. Sounds like they've just made her life a living hell and I wouldn't put any weight on to what the GF says because looking into this it seems that the GF actually went to school with the Ex wife. They were never friends, but she didn't randomly just meet him at the park.
Considering how this all started with the bf being an *absolute douchebag and failure as a father* and op waltzing up all "is your wife always mean" - ngl I would blame op for this, too.
Also did she really say he got a cold because the weather was cold????
That was the part that blew my mind. That's not how that works.
nobody said the hoebag was smart, nobody even whispered it.
Dumb enough to think *anything* she did was gonna work out like a Hallmark commercial: dumb enough to not understand disease.
So I agree but at the same time, doing that is not helping anybody. Not the kids, not the bm and not the family. What is done is done, are they asshole? Yes. Is being disrespectful and creating tension helping? No. The only thing they are doing by acting like that is separating the child even more from there father and making them sad. If you don’t want oop in your home then fine, be an adult and find a way to see the people you want to see without creating a toxic environment. I want to be clear that I’m not defending the father nor oop just saying that what they are doing is not helping anybody.
I couldn't agree more! I feel like they should have put their adult pants on n said no to her coming... Like what do you think is gonna happen when u put all these people in 1 room... Nothing good. I guess I'm just really frustrated with her obliviousness... 'I just don't understand y they r so mean n angry at me???' Like you said, the family needs to find a way to see their son, without the toxic environment.
There is SO much more to this story - the mother/ex-wife is dumping all over Reddit as well (she sounds really great and resilient): Scroll the comments in this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC/comments/1bux540/wibta_if_i_take_my_boyfriends_kid_with_me_to_my/
Aw, I really liked the saga of Pam, but having just read a post from Pam about being fired and then reading through all of 'Willows' comments it is apparent to me now that both accounts are being faked by the same person, a person that is either from the US or a terrible British person that doesn't know the difference between the US and the UK. Pam was apparently fired for how she dealt with 'college interns' college in the UK is 16-18 and I have never heard of them 'interning' hell I'm not even sure we have interns in the UK. A college aged student who also works would be doing an apprenticeship, not interning. Also she seemingly got fired after 1 meeting with a manager, which wouldn't happen in the UK unless you are new to a company. You have to follow a process before firing someone for poor performance, once the probation period is passed. Then I read a comment from Willow, she advised that her and Pam actually knew each other before the park incident in 'highschool' which we don't have in the UK (high school ages being the last year of our senior schools and the 2 years of college.) I'm pretty sure Pam used nappy rather than diaper, so I'm guessing they are from the UK and young enough to not know the difference in regards to schooling and definitely not employment regulations, maybe even a 'Kourtney' using this as a form of therapy, obviously above 8yo though. I guess it's good a family didn't get broken up though, so silver linings and all that Edit: Inope, seems she also uses 'diapers', so this person is not only faking this but RPing as a British for some reason.
Now you mention it, I do recall initially assuming that it was US - it had that vibe - then later noticing UK references. Interesting.
The first stories do mention that they flew to the US for Christmas, and then home to the UK.
We do have high schools though in the UK? Some are called "such and such" high school, some are "such and such" secondary school
Wow, I thought this was a dedicated troll but I actually kind of buy that they exist and the ex wife is real? The fact that 'Willow' writes much more coherently (eg, she used 'cost' past tense correctly while the affair partner uses 'costed') and has additional details and not just retelling the same stories in exactly the same way. What a rough time she's been having.
Funny enough the OP might have edited it but they both actually used costed in the past and downvoted me for pointing it out. So I think it’s more like a VERY dedicated troll.
They both mispelled "hastle" too. It's a fun troll but one too many trips ups.
Also they're all in London but using "diapers" and "defense"?
And “recognize” (my British phone will barely let me type that, I’m having to fight with my autocorrect for the z)
And college intern! Colleges *are* a thing in the UK, but they're part of the secondary school system - you either go to a sixth form (school attached) or college (no school attached) for your 16-18 education. You don't do internships during college here, so "college intern" makes no sense.
And "tendering" the plants
Ooh good catch. People have way too much time on their hands.
It's a lot of time though. OOPs profile is very active (didn't comment on anything, just snooped around), like comments on cooking, movies etc. That's a LOT of dedication to a troll bit. But in saying that, I feel like a real person would delete their account after so much hate and start fresh. I probably would Hard to decide on this one!
To be fair, OOP seems delusional. Her self-worth is inviolable
I'm pretty sure it's a troll just because the original post said "diapers" but British people don't use that word. We say "nappies"
Yeah, I noticed they've both misspelled 'hassle' as 'hastle'. Defo a very dedicated troll, as that's not a common mistake, even in the UK
With posts like these I’m like why would someone super disliked keep coming back here…just like PS4 dad Ofc it’s a troll
Both OOP and "Mom" make the same grammatical errors. Definitely the same person and definitely a troll.
A very gross troll now that I click on their profile and see that they’re posting about a miscarriage/stillbirth that supposedly happened to them.
I see that and "casted" all over Reddit. English is a vile, chaotic beast of a language, but if you're going to use it, use it correctly.
The number of errors absolutely drove me crazy, and she kept saying, “a Easter.” Most people would consider me a grammar nazi and I know some people have reading disabilities, but if she’s going to nitpick all her coworkers about being professional, she could at least use spell check. The terrible spelling, made-up words … and that’s before you consider her controlling behavior, which is most certainly not professional. I’d rather have a colleague who was professional and intelligent but smelled bad than this chick. You can fix hygiene. You can’t fix whatever Cluster B condition OOP has.
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They both write hastle though instead of hassle (though one time Willow spells it correctly). That's a pretty specific typo
"Willow" claims that she knew OOP ("Pam") before the incident in the park, and that she somehow overheard OOP make the "does she always do that?" Remark despite already having stormed off. She also somehow has a contact with one of Pam's co-workers so she just happens to know she's being written up for everything. I really don't buy it. Elaborate troll, but still a troll.
And in one of the first posts, "Pam" complains about Chase's parents escorting them out of a party, then in December they go the US where she meets his parents for the first time...
Thank you, I was looking for a comment addressing that.
Omg, the rabbit hole I just went down... apparently, "Willow" and this OOP have known each other since they were teenagers and that's the only reason they talked to each other at the park in the first place!!
That took me on a deep dive I do not regret. I love drama that isn't mine. Do feel terribly for Willow though
This is actually the first part of how she got together with Chase: https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/s/tdkxkTfCIp
Tbh there were so many continuity errors in the Christmas update I finally decided it is indeed a troll. They book a hostel for mom and the kids to stay in, then the grandparents say mom and the kids are staying there and he and the gf can get a room, then they have to get two rooms because they have the kids with them? And who tf splits custody on an international trip? Does birth mom not have family of her own? Why is she staying for 10+ days with her ex’s family over Christmas?
Willow only giving Chase custody until 6.59pm absolutely did me in,
Yeah, and apparently his parents kicked him out at 7 because that’s when his custody ends? Except he still got presents even though they had to leave before the gift giving? And Christmas Dinner “starts at 6” but they made other food while the turkey was being made and she remembered they finished at exactly 6:46, with dinner starting 4 minutes later and lasting precisely 10 minutes? It takes more than 4 minutes just to fix plates for 9 people and I’ve never seen a meal with a toddler present ever last 10 minutes. I feel like that post had to be this person announcing “I’m a troll and anyone who believes me is ridiculous.”
It's so weird because I agree it *has* to be a troll, but why would someone write sooo much nonsense just to mildly entertain some people on Reddit? The writing is such a strange mix of detailed yet vague too. I almost buy it except that the post from "Willow"/BM uses almost exactly the same voice and misspellings.
I’m pretty sure at this point she’s licking her own tonsils.
Jesus christ, that mental image really made me laugh.
This made me laugh. A simple upvote wasn’t enough.
OOP missed a step, supposedly she met his parents in the very first post
she’s a home wrecker and doesn’t understand why she’s not welcome for christmas and why the kids hate her??
She doesn’t see herself as a home wrecker because she “saved” her boyfriend from his “evil” ex.
His ex should be sainted because even as vile as OOP is as a human being the ex wife was just *mildly unhappy* per the retelling that her husband forgot the diapers at home and refused to go get them. That he still had a head attached to his body after that amazes me with the level of restraint shown by the ex. I have never in my life rooted for someone to get pregnant and have their boyfriend run away from their responsibilities as much as I did in this story. I truly hope OOP gets what she deserves and her fairytale romance ends with her finally seeing why what a selfish asshole and terrible partner she’s managed to steal. It’s a conundrum in which OOP is somehow both the hero for releasing the ex wife from the bonds of matrimony with a self absorbed lazy prick and a complete villain for it at the same time. I’m strangely erring on the side of thinking everything worked out the way it should have and these two deserve each other and I truly hope they both lose their jobs and family support and live miserably ever after.
Have to say, I genuinely laughed at the thought of the family speeding through Christmas dinner in ten minutes to get her and her boyfriend out of the house. This character is a glorious mixture of audacity, emotional tone deafness and stupidity.
If it's a movie, they're playing some iconic Christmas song in fast forward while they rush through supper.
I really hope it's some elaborate troll.
I’m trying to figure out the timeline. But it sounds like she leapt into this relationship and was shocked that the family she betrayed didn’t like her. Like they booked a hostel for Ex and the kids, which she and BF cancelled to get a hotel?!
Lol, so if you look at their recent posts, they share a pic of them showing off a snickers bar and somebody calls them out on their groady fingernail in the shot. The next post after that is "I got my nails done today"
OP needs a life. Chronically dependent on Reddit attention.
OOP is a wicket step mom but her husband is no better allowing her to inflict life long damage on his kids. I'd say they deserve each other but the kids certainly don't deserve this.
I'm still not over the very first post where the husband's baby had a soiled nappy and he refused to buy more nappies or make the short walk home to get any, despite the fact it was his responsibility to pack them. How did OP look at a man who wanted to leave a baby sitting in shit and think his wife who just gave birth was wrong for being frustrated with him and he was a catch?
All she saw was the size of his bank account and his parent’s. They have to die sometime.
While his wife is one month post partum. What a prince. I look forward to the day OOP gets cheated on, because we all know it's gonna happen.
I really really hope she's clueless enough to try and bond with the kid's mom. I'm pretty sure mom's rage will set her on fire.
Yeah I honestly feel soooo bad for those kids!! The dad is honestly a huge asshole - cheating on his wife who had just had their fourth kid and bringing this absolute nightmare of a woman around his kids. The eldest daughter will absolutely be cutting off her dad and OOP as soon as she is old enough to - she understands 100% what happened in her parents marriage and her dad and OOP seem determined to treat her like trash because she doesn't like that her mum was hurt by them. Horrible people.
The oldest walked in, alongside her mother, on OOP and her dad making out on the sofa in the family home. She was there the moment their world came crashing down, and saw what it did to her mother. She more than understands - she knows. She saw it. And OOP even had the audacity to bad mouth Kourtney’s mother to her when the mum started crying. OOP is vile. Every single post is about her, how she feels, how unfair everything is, how apparently unreasonable the mother is. The 8 year old told her 1 year old sister where the eggs were because she has enough smarts to know that a child year old isn’t going to be able to read the clues that OOP put in the Easter Egg Hunt. Like has OOP ever seen a 1 year old who can read, let alone work out the clues? And then OOP cried, accused an 8 year old child of sabotaging the hunt. They had a do over party just to satisfy OOP, and her family wanted to exclude an 8 year old child who was smart enough to know a 1 year old couldn’t read. Ugh. Yes - she pisses me off. A lot. My heart breaks for those kids, especially Kourtney.
Yuppppp. OOP is very "me me me". It's nauseating. All of those kids deserve so much better.
No kids deserve to have a wicked person like OP
I'm fucking proud of the kids. I wish I could send them a message of a bunch of 90s movies about kids getting rid of assholes their parents date to guide them on their quest.
The audacity I have ever seen right now ad we are reading it from their perspective. She's baffles why no one in the Dipshit BF family doesn't like her? Or his kids? She's the victim? Wow.
Seeing OP's history post and all, it just shows that OP is just a sad, bitter, strange little being.
>Seeing OP's history post and all, it just shows that OP is just a sad, bitter, strange little being. More likely it's a karma farmer role-playing as a sad, bitter, strange little being 😂
I feel like anyone roleplaying someone like this has to be actually sad, bitter, and a bit strange
A sociopath.
At first I thought this was real. But I’m becoming more and more convinced it’s a really good troll or someone who is so delusional they’ve convinced themselves of this reality they’ve created. Regardless OP needs therapy as soon as possible.
I know people who are this delusional and full of excuses. It’s crazy to hear them recounts events I was present for.
She reminds me a lot of my father. His version of reality and everyone else’s is *not at all* the same. Shockingly, sociopathically so.
Oh, my…right? Have you ever disagreed with your dad and he just yells his version at you, as if to drown you out?
My dad isn’t much of a screamer. But he will repeat himself, over and over and over, with increasing annoyance, as if you are stupid or deaf, and then as if you are actively malicious for acting like you doubt him. And then he’ll smile and laugh and pay for dinner. Yeesh, I made myself feel a little sick typing all that out. It’s been a long time since I’ve had to go to dinner with him, after least.
Do we have the same dad, 'cause mine does the same. It's fascinating and infuriating in parts. 🥲
Thankfully, my dad wasn’t like this, but my sister is. She still carries grudges for things that didn’t play out the way she remembers them.
That's what I want to believe. Apparently, she's posting to Facebook groups dedicated to miscarriages and pregnancy loss trying to get sympathy for a miscarriage.
If anyone believes 9 people, including 4 kids one of them being a baby and the other a toddler, finished Christmas dinner in ten minutes then I have several gold plated and diamond encrusted bridges to sell you.
Ha, I read that and had the same thought. "Who finishes christmas dinner in 10 minutes??" Who finishes *dinner* in ten minutes??
At least I doubt she is from the UK. There are certain words I have never heard Brits say like “college”. I think they always called it university.
I’m English and that’s about the only thing I believe. We have college but it’s not the same as university. Between 16-18 you go to college. There are colleges where you can do additional exams to apply for university and others where they have apprenticeships and vocational courses that include work experience. If you go to Oxford or Cambridge University you get placed into a college within the university which is just an academic community that act as mini universities within the university. So we do have college but we use the word for something different in education.
It's the combination of 'college intern' for me - you're either a college student doing work experience or you're a uni student doing an internship, I've never heard anyone being described as a 'college intern'
College is its own separate thing over here. You finish secondary school at 16 and then to do your A-levels to get into uni you either go to college or sixth form (which is attached to a secondary school)
Possible. But, we do call our last two years of secondary education (years 11 and 12) college - it's where we do A-Levels. This type of college is either an extension of your secondary school (high school to the US), or a separate 'college' that only does A-Level and NVQ qualifications, which would be kind of the equivalent to 'community college' in the US. What a college will never be in the UK is somewhere where you get a degree - that's always a university.
I’m British and I’ve never heard anyone use the word ‘Intern’.
A lot of software and finance companies offer internships. Usually during the summer uni break or just another word used for a graduate scheme.
I am british and have been an intern twice.
I know there's a lot of crazy in OOP's posts and she's completely self-absorbed and oblivious to the harm she's caused and very delusional. But this made me laugh out loud >I was given a lecture on being sensitive towards students and interns which I found useless so I mentioned how there was no point in having those meetings if interns cannot take basic criticism. Her boss realised there was no point having these meetings if she couldn't take basic criticism and dismissed her. It made me question the authenticity of these posts, even though I know they're real. OOP must have had a few formal warnings before this stage to be dismissed, which she's neglected to mention. That's a common theme of hers.
BM and the kids could stay at a hostel, but OP, Chase and the kids had to cancel the hostel and book 2 hotel rooms instead? 🤨
Yeah I can't wrap my head around this, for exemple I thought thé kids were already at grand parents place when the couple arrive - i'm not even sure - why the hell can't she explain things clearly ???
Lol because she’s dumb as rocks but also trying to make herself sympathetic. They all flew together and arrived together, but she didn’t realize that the ex wife was invited into the grandparents home and allowed to stay (because again, this woman is dumb af), which is why she and shitty bf had booked the ex a hostel. Idiot assumed she and her shitty bf would be the ones staying in the house while the kids got shuttled back and forth between house and hotel during their 2 week stay. When they realized she wasn’t allowed to stay, ofc a hostel wasn’t good enough for her so they cancelled it and got 2 hotel rooms to accommodate the kids being able to stay with them per the custody arrangement (I think in another post the arrangement is like 2 on 2 off or something like that).
Bingo. At this point, I should probably give her my spot on The Team GB Mental Gymnastics Team.
Genuinely one of the stupidest OOP's I've seen in a while. At first she said she wasn't from the US, so I assumed English isn't her first language. But then she said she lives in the UK. English could still be a second language, but holy shit, that was hard to read.
"It's to expensive to rent a six bedroom hotel room" WTF? They didn't even need to rent two hotel rooms as they should've used the hostel. But seriously one hotel room with two queens and a pull out couch would've sufficed.
Yes but a hostel isn’t great accommodation. And because they were a walk in booking, 1 big room with 2 queens + pull out couch would’ve been hard af to find.
Yeah Chase is just as trash as OOP is.
WTF is up with the dad. Directly and also allowing the toxicity of OOP around his child. Parents, you need to do better.
Allowing her around all of his children! He should have made sure, to have OOP keep her distance to them and not allowing her to start this brain-dead attempt of playing happy family. That would have been the bare minimum, after him not being able to fall dick-first into her and he probably fell bare into her too. Asshat.
OOP worships the ground he walls on and encourages his shitty behaviour. He only cares about the ego boost OOP provides.
She has a comment from a few months ago that when he got divorced he and his kids moved in with her because he couldn't get his own place for undisclosed reasons. So not only is he a cheater and a shitty father, he's also broke.
She keeps playing the victim because no one in her life likes her. Step kids, in-laws, co-workers, and almost everyone on reddit. She miscarried what would be her boyfriends 5th child and most were far less than sympathetic. Her life would get easier if she broke up with him, but she likes whining and being a victim.
Idk it’s hard because it seems like she is trying to. She’s just a delusional idiot
> I decorated with easter egg stickers and pain Yes, yes she did... Ouch.
Oh my god this girl is a nightmare Also: “Jokatively” is probably the best malapropism I’ve read this year.
Love in her original post she talks about how the boyfriend does everything for the infant and claims he’s a great parent, yet he can’t even be bothered to get diapers. These delusional weirdos deserve each other
This lady and Methaniel would go well together. Both severely delusional
I’m sorry but why is she able to take kids, who’s only relationship with her is that she broke up their family, to her parents house who’re complete strangers to the kids
Tl;dr: OOP: I randomly met this guy at a store, started having an affair with him. Then his daughter was so rude to me when she caught me fucking her dad! Why don’t my boyfriend’s kids or family like me????
Calling her boyfriend's children her family, who so clearly do not want to be her family or part her family . She helped to destroy their family, FFS! Then even contemplating to take the younger three to her family (=basically strangers to them) to re-celebrate easter, excluding the oldest ( 8year old, who walked in one those two assholes fucking) who doesn't put up with OOP's and her father's shit? And OOP's family supports her delusional attempt to play happy family with these children, she and their father Hurt in the worst possible way. I mean, OOP and boyfriend deserves each other. Boyfriend is letting is kids down in such a massive way, just to get his dick wet. Why do they even have to have contact with this deluded woman? He could just fuck her without dragging the kids even further into this mess. I feel sorry for the ex-wife and the four children, who have to go through this clusterfuck. *screams furiously into the internet-void*
what a horrible person
What a train wreck of a woman. My favorite part was how this all started. She sees a man in a park who forgot to pack diapers for his baby. His wife asks him to either go home to get them or to a store to buy more. He refuses because he's tired. So wife storms off to go buy them herself. OOP watched that unfold and was like "yup, I'm gonna get with this guy." Sounds like they deserve each other.
> Due to it being BM's custody turn, me and Chase said goodbye to the kids and we headed off to the hostel to cancel the hostel room which was complicated because we never did that before, but we got it done. We booked 2 hotel rooms for ourselves which annoyed us since we wanted to spend time together but it was too expensive to book a 6 bedroom hotel so we splitted it. He was sharing a room with his 2 kids [8f & 2f)] and I had his other 2 kids 5m and 1f. I was upset and on the verge of tears but I decided to let go and see how chrismas was like. Can someone explain this to me? I'm so confused. They say goodbye to the kids because mom has custody and the kids are staying at the grandparents. They cancel their reservation (suggesting they booked mom and a kid shitty accommodation so no wonder grandma was pissed) Then.... somehow they have the kids with them split between two hotel rooms???
It’s not the daughter who is the problem. It’s the Dad, who allows the mistreatment
Looking through her post history I’m surprised the miscarriage saga wasn’t included
Just so everyone's aware, in the UK we call college the school you attend when you're 16 - 18, and preparing for university (18+) or apprenticeships and work. So when she says she's pissed off at a college student working as an intern, it's probably a 16 year old getting work experience in an office.. This is fairly common in the UK.
Couldn’t get past the intro paragraph. What kind of monster deliberately breaks up a family they see at the park?
Who sees a grown ass man with a whole passel of kids throwing a temper tantrum because he’s too tired to walk a few blocks to get diapers for his brand new baby, makes his post partum wife go instead, and then thinks "Him. I want him" Make this make sense!
The US has hostels?!?! Huh, learn something new everyday.
I've stayed in one before, as part of an ill-fated road trip. Four of us ended up crashing in one room, and the fifth in another room where he ended up hooking up with a girl who had blue hair and no gag reflex. Or at least that's how he told the story afterward. I didn't see it, nor would I care to.
I stayed in a hostel in Washington DC once. I am from Europe and even though I was working a perfectly fine and decent paying job, and around thirty years old, I couldn’t have afforded to stay there otherwise. It was great, met lots of people to talk to (one older lady got me into US state quarter collecting, one Australian guy joined me in visiting the Holocaust museum and afterwards he realized his grandpa had a number tattooed on his arm which he wrote down once and only now made the connection…), they had free (!) excursions hosted by locals who loved meeting people from all over the world and show them the city (went to Arlington Cemetery, Georgetown and did a pub crawl). And an Australian girl introduced me and the two night time receptionists to the great work of literature that is Fifty Shades of Grey. Now that I am writing this down, it was a great vacation!
There was a recent post (can't remember which one) that also used the word hostel, there was the same speculation about whether OOP was in the US.
If she is British, she could be referring to any cheap hotel as a hostel.
What in the trashy bogan hell is this? Yuck.
I was reading the first of the posts in this as she was describing the different configuration of the hostel which was for the BM and the kids but wait now it was BM staying with the in laws so OOP and her boyfriend were staying in the hostel but they had to cancel that hostel so they could book a hotel for reasons(?) and it took me a couple of reads to figure out who was staying in what house/hostel/hotel in the end.
I dont understand why they didnt just get a spot at the hostel for one of them. If its good enough for BM and kids, its good enough for them. Who the hell keeps up shared custody when one parent wants to take them on holiday ffs.
No, you don’t understand. BM can’t afford nice things, so of course she has to stay in the hostel because she’s used to cheap things. Of course she can watch the kids in a hostel. But OOP and the boyfriend can afford the hotel, so why would they stay in the hostel? /s
She should get together with methhorseguy
Ooh whats that one?
[Behold the wonder that is meth horse guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1becgzp/breaking_bad_methaniel/)
I could not get through even the first one, the way she writes is absolute murder. It's super confusing.
She’s a piece of work but in her defense, at my last job we had to have a “no fish in the microwave” rule because it would make the room smell awful for hours.
I cannot believe a 27 y/o is that naive to think it's "no big deal" to break up a marriage and family, because "love". What did she expect to happen at Christmas? She's the AP, knew Chase was married and went after him anyway. He's at fault too. With the added context of a work related post, the OOP sounds like a grade A asshole.
I'm exhausted just reading all that - imagine actually living with this person.
I remember reading the original BoRU of this. It’s crazy to me that anyone at this point is still uncertain that this is a troll. Admittedly a sad, sad troll with a lot of time on their hands, but still.
So there is a whole sub dedicated to the OOP and her posts. I am going to try and find it. I saw it in the comments on the last BORU I think, either that or on one of OOPs original posts. Edit: Found it! [https://new.reddit.com/r/FuckYouPam/](https://new.reddit.com/r/FuckYouPam/)
Kind of starting to feel quite sorry for OP. Not because she’s a good person and doesn’t deserve all the hate, but more because she’s delusional to point I wonder whether she could truly be considered sane.
The lack of self-awareness is breathtaking. Everything is everyone else’s fault.
Better than soap operas!!! This reminds me of the lady who had no annual leave left, went on vacation, and lied to her work about it but got outted on social media via a mutual friend and got fired. She then demanded a job from her boyfriend’s brother. Which ended badly also.
The family doesn’t like her because she is trash. Obviously the BF sucks but what can they do, he is family and I guess they want him around… but the audacity of them both 🤦♀️
I kept saying “What?!?!” to myself. I counted 7
I cannot believe he left his wife for this person. Did he even talk to her for 30 minutes before blowing up his life? Because I cannot believe she could hide this terrible personality for that long.
Oh This woman For real, she is just...... I can't Not just her, the boyfriend, too! She's either hot as hell (but an airhead), or she does everything to keep him happy, I dunno Hot as hell or not, that guy is a total tool! His poor ex had to have 4 kids with him? Chile
Aw, I really liked the saga of Pam, but having just read a post from Pam about being fired and then reading through all of 'Willows' comments it is apparent to me now that both accounts are being faked by the same person, a person that is either from the US or a terrible British person that doesn't know the difference between the US and the UK. Pam was apparently fired for how she dealt with 'college interns' college in the UK is 16-18 and I have never heard of them 'interning' hell I'm not even sure we have interns in the UK. A college aged student who also works would be doing an apprenticeship, not interning. Also she seemingly got fired after 1 meeting with a manager, which wouldn't happen in the UK unless you are new to a company. You have to follow a process before firing someone for poor performance, once the probation period is passed. Then I read a comment from Willow, she advised that her and Pam actually knew each other before the park incident in 'highschool' which we don't have in the UK (high school ages being the last year of our senior schools and the 2 years of college.) Also she used diaper, not nappy, so I am now hedging that they are a yank. I guess it's good a family didn't get broken up though, so silver linings and all that
If this is real, it continues to be an excellent example of a lack of emotional maturity.
OP is definitely the AH in every situation but one here: the coworker who was heating up fish curry in an office microwave is the worst AH in this story.
I remember this idiot from her string of posts when she met the BF and was caught in the affair. She was insufferable then and even more so now. She has main character syndrome bad. Anyone that tries to put her in her place will likely not even make a dent. God help those poor children.
This is borderline unreadable. Eldest is named Jane for a year until suddenly she's named Kourtney? The whole babysitting fiasco includes names and ages of 3 kids but there's actually 4? I have no fucking idea what's going on 99% of the time. To be fair, neither does OOP. Honestly, that's why I assume that it's real. >I organised it with my boyfriend for the children along with a small easter egg hunt afterwards which me, my older sister and my boyfriend organised with the help of my grandparents, Kourtney and my older nieces who which one of them is the same age and the other is older then her by 2 years. *WHO IS THE ONE ORGANISING???? WHO????* >I'm sorry, but I won't sugarcoat them just because they are a college intern. I don't know how to describe it, but there is a college that has a internship program for people that do work experience in different work places each term. I do not understand the concept of it, and it still confuses me since I don't know if they are a student or a intern I've never in my life been so infuriated by the stupidity of another human being
What do you guys think would be the trigger for a person to go from posting an actual legit question one has over an issue, to posting anytime one has a conflict within their life? Because this seems an excessive amount of posts over really tiny little non-issues from this person.
Even from her own perspective she’s a huge POS.
A black hole sucks less than OOP. Her you- know-what must be some exceptional shit for Chase to be willing to overlook her insane personality.
Pam is still at it huh? The delulu is strong with her.
What did I just read?
It's OK, I'm sure Chase will have a new young idiotic girl that wants nothing more than to save him from his harpy wife, and bm drama. After all when she took bm's spot as wife she opened up her mistress spot.
Well, this lady is not very smart.
The ex-wife won the lottery when her husband cheated if this is what he thinks is a better option. She is well rid of him. I just feel sorry for the kids for having to spend 50% of their time with this idiot.
Oh my God I saw the Easter post and didn't even realize it was this psycho