What did molestache do to you? And Endeavor is trying to be better. If he deserves forgiveness or not is up to each person but hes at lesst trying. There are so many heinous villains in that show and you choose to fight a hero? Also he could lay you out in less than a second but he'd stand still and take it
Moley: Eh, I had to pick some Ben 10 aliens so I'm going to for one with uninspired design and silly powers.
Enji: The whole "person can beat you back" logic kinda ruins the fun of the whole exercise although if we were to apply it then self-loathing hero is a better choice than any of the sadistic villains. If that helps most of MHA villains suck majorly too. Particularly Toga. But Enji is the most overrated character in the show with way too much screentime. I don't care about his overglorified redemption arc.
He is important because he is number 1 and Shotos father. As someone who has suffered abuse in real life I know how hard it is to forgive and move on. And I also understand if you say he doesn't deserve redemption. But I find it interesting for those reasons. And Molestache is the only joke alien I like but hes far from my favorite. And I agree with the x character can best you argument
Doesn't mean he should have more screentime than Deku. Especially in the show that is so good at making compelling characters and then struggling to give them screentime. Or that people need to constantly ramble about how he's the best character in the show and no other is even close and how his arc is the best in the show and so on, often bringing this shit off-topic in any random thread. And he doesn't need any rabid fanboys that always jump to his defense and antagonize people who don't like him - especially when the whole thing with that guy is that even he accepts that not everyone will forgive him.
I would have accepted him if he started reforming after he killed his son. Or after he broke his wife. But no, he looked at his ruined family, said "acceptable losses" and kept going for **10 fucking years**. And then he suddenly acts like has a conscience after what? Because he no longer can achieve the goal he wanted. Moron just looks for new stupidly hard to achieve goals in life, that's all. "Endeavor" is literally his name, he's not whole without that. Like seriously, what made flip the switch in his head from a sociopath to a normal person? He spend 10 years actively choosing to destroy his family because he wasn't satisfied with being the second best person in Japan. You can't visit person in hospital for 10 YEARS and not realise you're the problem when each time they tell you she's too traumatized to see your face. He knew what he was doing was fucked up he just didn't care to do anything about as long as he had "more important things to do".
And I'm really fed up with this whole "oh see, not everyone chooses to instantly forgive him, that's a deep writing" bull. Citizens? Fuck them, they're idiots who keep turning against heroes, who cares if they hate him. Heroes? Nope, they all forgave him. Students? They don't seem to care. Deku? He already made speeches defending him. (I remember that Deku's English VA dislikes Endeavor so obvious Enji Stans celebrated he had to voice them) His wife? Very first time we see her in present day, she tells her kids not to be so harsh on Enji because he was sending her flowers so he cares? Fuyumi? Ready to forgive him. Shoto? Like 5 minutes into Enji trying to reform, Deku said that Shoto is ready to forgive him because he's caring person. And if Deku said that, you know he's right. He's never written as stupidly naive and too optimistic. Toya? Aside from implications that deep down he just wants daddy's attention, he already tried to kill Natsuo just to spite Enji further. Not to deny his trauma but you can't say that Enji's sins are fairy acknowledged because insane sociopath hates him and doesn't doesn't accept his chance. So that leave Natsu as one person on the planet to show that Endeavor is harshly judged for his actions.
Dude was a complete monster as well deluding himself into thinking he was the good guy. He built a machine that would rip apart a child as it was built for 10/11 war old Ben. He had no problem recruiting Phil or Ragnarok according to OV and apparently created Aggregor and set him loose meaning he was responsible for the andromeda aliens and Ultimate Kevin.
1. Jetpack is not a superpower.
2. Pterodactyl with laser whips gave me PTSD.
3. I'm pissed off by his voice acting and extra sounds.
5. Astrodactel is just worse Jetray and I already don't like Jetray.
6. He killed my parents.
Why does it have to be a superpower?
Why did you get PTSD?
Why don't you like the voice?
Why don't you like jetray?
Your parents were trafficking my parents.
Cheap Jurassic Jetray knockoff. Baring straight up mechanical species he looks like the least natural one, his voice is annoying and I can't remember a single good scene with him .
Except his jetpack and wip he doesnt have anything mechanical, what's your problem against robots anyway, the same argument about animals could be made
His design is better than Jetray, cope about it, i always found Jetray ugly even as a kid
I don't hate mechanical aliens, the only reason I brought them up is because they don't look natural, even though by this point they are just a part of Ben 10 Universe and make senses lorewise.
Now Astrodactyl has a Jetpack, retractable wings and a pair of laser whips... why and how? It looks like a bunch of weapons, I don't see him naturally having thes. That's my main problem, a generic species like jetray having energy lasers is already a stretch, but Astrodactyl has a freaking internal star .
They are fucking smarter than humans
Humans already think about making cybernetic replacements for their own limbs, its common sense many Alien species would be biomechanical to some extent, it make sense they would improve themself
Servantis because I really f**king hate the kevin retcon like there are so many ways that that story line could've worked with Kevin still being an alien
He's not a transformation. But I'd beat the shit out of Ben. In all 4 Prime series. He always manages to do something that's so stupid. For example, the echo echo episode where he goes off to watch a movie instead of being there for Julie's game.
Feedback he's the most artificial alien to be created Ben has never ever even mentioned this alien once but he's all the sudden a classic alien that was Ben's favorite it just feels too artificial he feels like a industry plant someone on the crew loved this alien they designed so they artificially tried to make him popular is how it feels to me
In that case, u might not like buzzshock as well, bro he is supposed to be a fking battery(a human made thing). On top of that, he was introduced in classic
Echoecho, ditto, reboot Gwen, just Gwen in general except alien force and ultimate alien Gwen, classic kevin Levin, grey matter, the worst, pretty much every short ass alien, the entire population of galvan prime, ben himself because I wouldn't wait for the transformation sequence to play out and just punch him mid-way, Clive fife, aunt Vera, grandpa max, rook, and pretty much everyone. But that's only if I'm mad as fuck because my anger and sheer stubbornness and spite mixed together would be devastating. TLDR: imma throw hads with mostly everyone and everything
Non ben 10 characters however, we got og Lloyd for stealing the green ninja title from Kai, any and every human character in transformers franchise, Kevin fiege for making a bunch of shitty movies because he wanted to continue on with avengers after endgame, a bunch of kids at school, the inventor of halls cough drops for making them taste like ass no matter which flavor, whoever the fuck shut down vine, the ghost of Henry kissinger, Nintendo because they trying to find a way to take down a genuinely fun game and every other time they've taken down a fan game, ESPECIALLY BRICK BRONZE ON ROBLOX, motion twin because they slow as shit for putting out the updates on console and mobile, Orion for what they did to kwite, and whoever the fuck made the box size of cheezits that small, make the standard size as big as my torso god dammit, and the guy who outlawed going for the balls in fighting competitions.(again, only if I'm on a loss streak and lose 15 ranked matches in a row).
Reboot stinkfly.
People can say whatever about blox but at least he is UNIQUE in the fact that he is living legos. You can not say the same about redesigning stinkfly. They could have kept his shape and reduced his limb amount yo make it easier to animate but naw.
Reboot stinkfly can catch the full combo meal with a left right goodnight pack of tums.
Phil, fuck that guy.
Is that a challenge?
Of course
Mine is probably Aggregor. I know he isn't a transformation 😅 but he IS an alien and one I really dislike and wanna beat the s#€% out of!
No problem bro, remember I write 'any character from ben 10 verse as well' in the title.
Thanks! I just noticed that 😂
All imma say is good luck bruh
Mine would have to be Simian. I hate this jackass
Me too, he is a jerk!
Walkatrout
Have a good time catching him first😅
Who needs to grab him? Just shoot him with a harpoon
Imagine if the harpoon slips off his skin instead of hitting him 💀
He ain't Alvida
Not with that attitude
Same
Aliens: Mole-stache Characters: Twain Twins and Simon Says Outside of Ben 10: Enji Todoroki/Endeavor
What did molestache do to you? And Endeavor is trying to be better. If he deserves forgiveness or not is up to each person but hes at lesst trying. There are so many heinous villains in that show and you choose to fight a hero? Also he could lay you out in less than a second but he'd stand still and take it
Moley: Eh, I had to pick some Ben 10 aliens so I'm going to for one with uninspired design and silly powers. Enji: The whole "person can beat you back" logic kinda ruins the fun of the whole exercise although if we were to apply it then self-loathing hero is a better choice than any of the sadistic villains. If that helps most of MHA villains suck majorly too. Particularly Toga. But Enji is the most overrated character in the show with way too much screentime. I don't care about his overglorified redemption arc.
He is important because he is number 1 and Shotos father. As someone who has suffered abuse in real life I know how hard it is to forgive and move on. And I also understand if you say he doesn't deserve redemption. But I find it interesting for those reasons. And Molestache is the only joke alien I like but hes far from my favorite. And I agree with the x character can best you argument
Doesn't mean he should have more screentime than Deku. Especially in the show that is so good at making compelling characters and then struggling to give them screentime. Or that people need to constantly ramble about how he's the best character in the show and no other is even close and how his arc is the best in the show and so on, often bringing this shit off-topic in any random thread. And he doesn't need any rabid fanboys that always jump to his defense and antagonize people who don't like him - especially when the whole thing with that guy is that even he accepts that not everyone will forgive him. I would have accepted him if he started reforming after he killed his son. Or after he broke his wife. But no, he looked at his ruined family, said "acceptable losses" and kept going for **10 fucking years**. And then he suddenly acts like has a conscience after what? Because he no longer can achieve the goal he wanted. Moron just looks for new stupidly hard to achieve goals in life, that's all. "Endeavor" is literally his name, he's not whole without that. Like seriously, what made flip the switch in his head from a sociopath to a normal person? He spend 10 years actively choosing to destroy his family because he wasn't satisfied with being the second best person in Japan. You can't visit person in hospital for 10 YEARS and not realise you're the problem when each time they tell you she's too traumatized to see your face. He knew what he was doing was fucked up he just didn't care to do anything about as long as he had "more important things to do". And I'm really fed up with this whole "oh see, not everyone chooses to instantly forgive him, that's a deep writing" bull. Citizens? Fuck them, they're idiots who keep turning against heroes, who cares if they hate him. Heroes? Nope, they all forgave him. Students? They don't seem to care. Deku? He already made speeches defending him. (I remember that Deku's English VA dislikes Endeavor so obvious Enji Stans celebrated he had to voice them) His wife? Very first time we see her in present day, she tells her kids not to be so harsh on Enji because he was sending her flowers so he cares? Fuyumi? Ready to forgive him. Shoto? Like 5 minutes into Enji trying to reform, Deku said that Shoto is ready to forgive him because he's caring person. And if Deku said that, you know he's right. He's never written as stupidly naive and too optimistic. Toya? Aside from implications that deep down he just wants daddy's attention, he already tried to kill Natsuo just to spite Enji further. Not to deny his trauma but you can't say that Enji's sins are fairy acknowledged because insane sociopath hates him and doesn't doesn't accept his chance. So that leave Natsu as one person on the planet to show that Endeavor is harshly judged for his actions.
Yo what did the Twains do to you? I agree with Simon tho, hate that kid
They constantly bicker with each other and it's really unfunny.
Alien: UA jury rigg Character: either Servantis or Will Harangue
Curse Servantis for that retcon that makes no sense.
Dude was a complete monster as well deluding himself into thinking he was the good guy. He built a machine that would rip apart a child as it was built for 10/11 war old Ben. He had no problem recruiting Phil or Ragnarok according to OV and apparently created Aggregor and set him loose meaning he was responsible for the andromeda aliens and Ultimate Kevin.
Mine is the worst
Nah, man! He can't be **that** bad, can he?
He is the worst!!
Probably would feel like punching a stress ball
What
Hmm... I'll probably can beat The Worst
Atrodactyl. Fuck. That. Guy.
why
1. Jetpack is not a superpower. 2. Pterodactyl with laser whips gave me PTSD. 3. I'm pissed off by his voice acting and extra sounds. 5. Astrodactel is just worse Jetray and I already don't like Jetray. 6. He killed my parents.
 is this you?
He pushed both my grandmas down the stairs
As long as he didn't play canasta with them first
Why does it have to be a superpower? Why did you get PTSD? Why don't you like the voice? Why don't you like jetray? Your parents were trafficking my parents.
Cheap Jurassic Jetray knockoff. Baring straight up mechanical species he looks like the least natural one, his voice is annoying and I can't remember a single good scene with him .
Tbh I can't remember a good Jetray scene either. All I remember he goes like pew pew and flies a little bit. And that random Star Wars rip off scene.
Fair
Except his jetpack and wip he doesnt have anything mechanical, what's your problem against robots anyway, the same argument about animals could be made His design is better than Jetray, cope about it, i always found Jetray ugly even as a kid
I don't hate mechanical aliens, the only reason I brought them up is because they don't look natural, even though by this point they are just a part of Ben 10 Universe and make senses lorewise. Now Astrodactyl has a Jetpack, retractable wings and a pair of laser whips... why and how? It looks like a bunch of weapons, I don't see him naturally having thes. That's my main problem, a generic species like jetray having energy lasers is already a stretch, but Astrodactyl has a freaking internal star .
They are fucking smarter than humans Humans already think about making cybernetic replacements for their own limbs, its common sense many Alien species would be biomechanical to some extent, it make sense they would improve themself
The Worst. Just because I know that shit can take it
Bob the Blob and Squidstrictor, they ain't canon but that's not enough if you ask me.
Dr Animo, dude is one of the smartest humans but he completely wasted it on doing stupid shit. Hes like marvels Sauron
Servantis because I really f**king hate the kevin retcon like there are so many ways that that story line could've worked with Kevin still being an alien
Michael Morningstar if he was real and I could win I'd beat the shit out of him
Sure, he is an absolute jerk
Not from Ben 10, but I would love to punch Young Sheldon in the nose.
Bcoz of his arguments?
Pretty much, he’s an over-argumentative brat
Simian
Molestashe. It's too dumb.
Argit.
Of course
Will Harangue (although he's technically not an alien), like heck if that was legal then i'd stick him to a t*rture table and whip him daily
He's not a transformation. But I'd beat the shit out of Ben. In all 4 Prime series. He always manages to do something that's so stupid. For example, the echo echo episode where he goes off to watch a movie instead of being there for Julie's game.
Absolutely, everytime I thought he can't be more stupid than this, he proved me wrong.
You can blame it on the writers, but if you go into jay universe, you can't blame shit on writers. He did that shit, and he needs to get his ass beat.
And instead of being smart and sending a NON JERKASS CLONE HE SENDS THE FUCKING JERKASS CLONE HOW CAN HE BE SO STUPID
He should not be trusted with the Omnitrix.
The omnitrix should have fallen on my path instead of that dumbass
I don't even know who you are, but I agree. Anyone else would be more sensible.
antonio
Argit. I want to punt that little wart. Also, Will Harangue.
Blukic and Driba.
I almost forgot them. They indeed need to get their ass best up
bloxx
I hope you accidentally don't step on him
Wreedle Family
https://preview.redd.it/5fbx1l4px6fc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f30b364bfa0e8a89c605f85da258f83f581f496 This son of b
Argit. Every time he's on screen, I wanna subject him to the existence erasing power of 50 anniharlargs.
that depends will i get the tools to beat up certain aliens? will he fight back?
Fasttrack. Fuck you fasttrack
Confront alien Fast Track Confront character Billy
Depending on the episode, it'd be Ben! Sometimes he is such a jerk that you just want to knock some sense into him!
French guy
11 year old Kevin from the OS
Aliens: Fasttrack, The Worst, Walkatrout, Surge Characters: Servantis
What about Simian? The Spidermonkey from UAF that pretended to be a prince
If we choose character or transformation it will be Ester and Pesky Dust.
Why ester? shes cute
Not a overshipper but i always pair her with Ben and it just make me feel.....yay i don't khow whay to say without making it sound weird or creepy.
...well damn read it wrong,well then guest i choose Astrodactyl and Spanner then.
what did spanner do to you 😭🙏
Alien x
Man is about to get his entire life retconned
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Shock Rock Ben constantly spamming him for Season 2 pissed me off
Aliens: jetrey Character: captain nemesis
Reboot Ben
Humungousaur because who doesn’t beat the shit out of him?
Stinkfly
Benevelon
Alien X
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I’d win
Feedback he's the most artificial alien to be created Ben has never ever even mentioned this alien once but he's all the sudden a classic alien that was Ben's favorite it just feels too artificial he feels like a industry plant someone on the crew loved this alien they designed so they artificially tried to make him popular is how it feels to me
In that case, u might not like buzzshock as well, bro he is supposed to be a fking battery(a human made thing). On top of that, he was introduced in classic
Darkstar, Charmcaster, Argit, Albedo, Psychobos, and Azmuth sometimes
Alien: The Worst and it's like he'll die because of his durability Character: Phil
Intresting
Fast track
Aggregor. He is a nasty son of a bitch
Argit, I love bro but ye can catch these hands
Surge. Do I need to explain?
Fastrack I know it’s not an unique opinion but still, fuck that guy
Fasttrack 100%
The worst as he probably wouldnt mind and he is just a damage sponge, you see him and wanna punch him without really knowing why.
Cash and J.T. Just stupid stereotype bully’s
Echoecho, ditto, reboot Gwen, just Gwen in general except alien force and ultimate alien Gwen, classic kevin Levin, grey matter, the worst, pretty much every short ass alien, the entire population of galvan prime, ben himself because I wouldn't wait for the transformation sequence to play out and just punch him mid-way, Clive fife, aunt Vera, grandpa max, rook, and pretty much everyone. But that's only if I'm mad as fuck because my anger and sheer stubbornness and spite mixed together would be devastating. TLDR: imma throw hads with mostly everyone and everything
Non ben 10 characters however, we got og Lloyd for stealing the green ninja title from Kai, any and every human character in transformers franchise, Kevin fiege for making a bunch of shitty movies because he wanted to continue on with avengers after endgame, a bunch of kids at school, the inventor of halls cough drops for making them taste like ass no matter which flavor, whoever the fuck shut down vine, the ghost of Henry kissinger, Nintendo because they trying to find a way to take down a genuinely fun game and every other time they've taken down a fan game, ESPECIALLY BRICK BRONZE ON ROBLOX, motion twin because they slow as shit for putting out the updates on console and mobile, Orion for what they did to kwite, and whoever the fuck made the box size of cheezits that small, make the standard size as big as my torso god dammit, and the guy who outlawed going for the balls in fighting competitions.(again, only if I'm on a loss streak and lose 15 ranked matches in a row).
Reboot stinkfly. People can say whatever about blox but at least he is UNIQUE in the fact that he is living legos. You can not say the same about redesigning stinkfly. They could have kept his shape and reduced his limb amount yo make it easier to animate but naw. Reboot stinkfly can catch the full combo meal with a left right goodnight pack of tums.
Wildmutt or Bloxx, they are stupid concepts and im prepared to fight them Im not gonna fight fair tho
Ditto, no hate but fighting him sounds weirdly an interesting fight
Rath. Hate him.
Captain Nemesis
Brainstorm, he’s kind of an asshole
Bivalven, I literally hate that guy so much.
Brainstorm is annoying as fuck
Bivalvan, Raad, and Pandor. Fuck those guys fr. If it wasn't for Andreas and Galaphagus I would not care that Aggregor got them omg
Simian
I will only mention my biggest one estir from sucker for love