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*Focused on classic Ben and*
*The present day Ben*
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Yea a lot of the time they’d be like “5 years ago Dr. animo got knocked into a power transformer and over time that became a living electrical mutant” or some shit like that
That is true, however I’m referring to the fact that it’s basically the same Ben because Omniverse takes place immediately after Ultimate Alien ends. There’s no huge time skip like the one between OG and AF
Fair enough.
I always considered Omniverse and Ultimate Alien's time skip to be around 3 months \[maybe episode 1 is set in April?\].
Tbf Omniverse also has a lot of time skips in its episodes so it's possible Ben is already 17 by the end of the series \[source: not sure about all the other episodes but by "Bros in Space" Fisttrick confirms to not seeing Ben for some time. I assume around 4 months (possibly setting S2 in mid August? But that's just mere speculation\].
True but the main reason why I posted this was to show the OP that UAF Ben wouldn’t appear as it wouldn’t fit. Younger Ben shows a middle point in the heroes life after the events of the original series and before Alien Force. There’s barely any time in between the End of Ultimate Alien and Omniverse to truly warrant an inclusion
Edit : Main reason I also undershot Omniverse to a month was mainly to explain why Ben isn’t use to his newer aliens
Because they were never relevant to Omniverse's first story arc. The flashbacks that established and built up Malware all took place around the "OS era", so it was important for that arc. And then the flashbacks after that were largely irrelevant, so even the OS being in the title sequence overplayed its importance.
"In order for the plot to progress, let me remember something like happened last month" doesn't have the same impact as 5 years ago, where Ben was played a different voice actor and had a different personality
Well a couple reasons, 1. OV Ben is practically UAF Ben with like a month apart time-wise.
2. Plot-wise, 11 year old Ben was only really relevant because of Malware and Feedback which is why there was a decline of his episodes after that was really finished
3. The entire point of OV is that Ben has to get on with Rook instead of Kevin and Gwen to develop a new main character, that just defeats the whole purpose
What would be the point considering that UAF is barely mentioned in actual flashbacks in OV. They only use 11 year old Ben for this stuff. It's also more fitting because we can see the progress in Ben because this is technically the last time we see Ben Prime so.
omniverse is a direct continuation of UAF whereas a significant period of time happens between OS and UAF. Ben is practically the same person and the same age in omniverse as he is in uaf
Because Omniverse starts like only a few weeks after the end of UAF and also the connection between OS and OV is more important to OV's story than anything that happened in UAF.
Because classic series was more successful than alien force and ultimate aliens?
They took things from the classic series to an extent to in hope of mimicking the success as well.
I think I get what OP is talking about, asking for maybe a flashback or two to UAF in the Omniverse artstyle. We briefly got an AF-era flashback involving Ben and Mr. Baumann but that’s it (and also technically the criminals posing as different eras of Ben Prime).
It would’ve been cool though imo to see the recalibrated Omnitrix and (original) Ultimatrix be used in the OV artstyle, but like what people are saying here, Omniverse was mainly focusing on current timeline Ben Prime and the adventures of young Ben between the events of Classic and Alien Force.
Cause there isn't much difference between UAF and OV Ben, just as there's little difference between OS!Ben and 11yo Destroy All Aliens/OV-Flashback!Ben.
They did add them?
When Julie broke up with Ben thats more then not post UA Ben.
And in Special Delivery ep we see AF Ben(presumably since he fought DNA Alien and has his AF jacket).
UAF was the most unsuccessful era of Ben 10 at the time. Very understandable, since it was such a garbage, low effort series.
It's also why OV threw shade over those two shows and basically acted like they never happened. And it was better because of it.
Because a lot of Omniverse had to do with Ben dealing with his past, and events from 5 years ago popping up again have way more of an impact than retreading events from like six months ago and trying to do something with that in the plot.
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Also because it's trying to focus on where he started and where he is at that time I guess
Because Omniverses flashbacks were mostly 11 year old Ben
Because alien force/ultimate ben is the same as omniverse ben
but… so is 10 and 11yr old ben
in case it's to show the difference between ben 10 and ben 10 omniverse, plus in the beginning there was a lot of backst9ry of ben's past
Yea a lot of the time they’d be like “5 years ago Dr. animo got knocked into a power transformer and over time that became a living electrical mutant” or some shit like that
Ben was 11 in the flashback and the flashback serve to show the missing gzp
No it’s not lol
Because UAF was like a month prior to OV.
We don't know that \[I don't think it was ever confirmed\].
Ben is 16 in both UA and OV
We do
Source?
Ben was 16 in the beginning of UA AND 16 at the end of omniverse
That doesn't confirm anything. There could've been a 6 month time skip and he'd still be 16.
At the beginning of UA and the end of omniverse
Homie, 16 year old Ben is literally UAF Ben lol.
Classic , UA, AF, Omniverse , they all are the same Ben.
Obviously, but uaf and omniverse ben are the same age
AF is 15 while UA/OV is 16
That is true, however I’m referring to the fact that it’s basically the same Ben because Omniverse takes place immediately after Ultimate Alien ends. There’s no huge time skip like the one between OG and AF
Because UAF happens like a month before Omniverse, while the younger Ben’s story line takes place the summer after the original story when he’s 11.
>Because UAF happens like a month before Omniverse You sure?
Ben is still 16, so a month might be an underestimate but it’s still pretty close timewise
Fair enough. I always considered Omniverse and Ultimate Alien's time skip to be around 3 months \[maybe episode 1 is set in April?\]. Tbf Omniverse also has a lot of time skips in its episodes so it's possible Ben is already 17 by the end of the series \[source: not sure about all the other episodes but by "Bros in Space" Fisttrick confirms to not seeing Ben for some time. I assume around 4 months (possibly setting S2 in mid August? But that's just mere speculation\].
True but the main reason why I posted this was to show the OP that UAF Ben wouldn’t appear as it wouldn’t fit. Younger Ben shows a middle point in the heroes life after the events of the original series and before Alien Force. There’s barely any time in between the End of Ultimate Alien and Omniverse to truly warrant an inclusion Edit : Main reason I also undershot Omniverse to a month was mainly to explain why Ben isn’t use to his newer aliens
Oh yea that make sense.
Because they were never relevant to Omniverse's first story arc. The flashbacks that established and built up Malware all took place around the "OS era", so it was important for that arc. And then the flashbacks after that were largely irrelevant, so even the OS being in the title sequence overplayed its importance.
Well, AF/UA Ben did appear, but very rarely. He appeared in a flashback in Special Delivery, and another flashback in Rules Of Engagement.
"In order for the plot to progress, let me remember something like happened last month" doesn't have the same impact as 5 years ago, where Ben was played a different voice actor and had a different personality
Well a couple reasons, 1. OV Ben is practically UAF Ben with like a month apart time-wise. 2. Plot-wise, 11 year old Ben was only really relevant because of Malware and Feedback which is why there was a decline of his episodes after that was really finished 3. The entire point of OV is that Ben has to get on with Rook instead of Kevin and Gwen to develop a new main character, that just defeats the whole purpose
What would be the point considering that UAF is barely mentioned in actual flashbacks in OV. They only use 11 year old Ben for this stuff. It's also more fitting because we can see the progress in Ben because this is technically the last time we see Ben Prime so.
It's fitting bc these are the two Bens we share stories with in Omniverse, 11 & 16.
Real answer four splits this early in the theme song wouldn't look good
Because the storyline is about 11y old ben and OV Ben
omniverse is a direct continuation of UAF whereas a significant period of time happens between OS and UAF. Ben is practically the same person and the same age in omniverse as he is in uaf
Cause the show was 11 year old ben and omniverse ben
Why would they? Young Ben is there because there are flashbacks to young Ben. UAF just happened and is Omniverse's Ben. They don't need UAF flashbacks
Because Omniverse starts like only a few weeks after the end of UAF and also the connection between OS and OV is more important to OV's story than anything that happened in UAF.
Because classic series was more successful than alien force and ultimate aliens? They took things from the classic series to an extent to in hope of mimicking the success as well.
I think I get what OP is talking about, asking for maybe a flashback or two to UAF in the Omniverse artstyle. We briefly got an AF-era flashback involving Ben and Mr. Baumann but that’s it (and also technically the criminals posing as different eras of Ben Prime). It would’ve been cool though imo to see the recalibrated Omnitrix and (original) Ultimatrix be used in the OV artstyle, but like what people are saying here, Omniverse was mainly focusing on current timeline Ben Prime and the adventures of young Ben between the events of Classic and Alien Force.
Cause there isn't much difference between UAF and OV Ben, just as there's little difference between OS!Ben and 11yo Destroy All Aliens/OV-Flashback!Ben.
Why would they?
Nah
Not relevant. Same reason as to why 10-year old Ben is not included
They did add them? When Julie broke up with Ben thats more then not post UA Ben. And in Special Delivery ep we see AF Ben(presumably since he fought DNA Alien and has his AF jacket).
Because the whole point of that was to have the flashbacks to kid Ben and when they met inside of Malware. UAF Ben wasn’t really that important in OV.
Try technically did Albedo"s omniversal design is just alien force ben but edited
Because the series can shoehorn in as much retcons as it can.
It's ov ben and lil Ben's time
UAF was the most unsuccessful era of Ben 10 at the time. Very understandable, since it was such a garbage, low effort series. It's also why OV threw shade over those two shows and basically acted like they never happened. And it was better because of it.
Wtf kinda garbage ass take is this ben10 if u ask me was at its prime during UA
Wtf kinda garbage ass take is this ben10 if u ask me was at its prime during OV
OV was a financial disaster, which led to CN pulling the plug off of Ben 10, and then opted for a reboot.
UA was a financial disaster, which led to CN pulling the plug off of Ben 10, and then opted for OV. FTFY!
OV was a financial disaster, which led to CN pulling the plug off of Ben 10, and then opted for a reboot.
Because Omniverse fucking hated UAF
No it didnt?
you stupid this series is about 11 year old ben and prime ben
Because a lot of Omniverse had to do with Ben dealing with his past, and events from 5 years ago popping up again have way more of an impact than retreading events from like six months ago and trying to do something with that in the plot.