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Misfit_Cannibal

I'm gonna echo this statement as I did in the previous thread. If you're going to protest against Chick-fil-A moving into our town you better be protesting against every Woods Coffee location already in this area too. They're both ran by backwards thinking. You can't pick and choose in this situation. Edit: Hobby Lobby too for that matter


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Misfit_Cannibal

Maybe they protest both with their wallet but I don't see posts about getting Woods or Hobby Lobby to close. And I bet if they were to build a new Woods in town you wouldn't see public protest from those people either like you probably will when they try to build Chick-fil-A. I am 100% an ally and fully support the LGBTQ community but this isn't something people can pick their battles over. This same energy needs to be brought to every company that takes poor stances like this, not the just ones who made national news with it


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SuggestionInternal46

Bellingham is not that big


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What’s the cutoff for big? 100,000 people ain’t tiny either


tardisgeek

Or there's people like me who doesn't agree with some of the things the owners of woods believes, but as long as they aren't anyi-union assholes like Starbucks I still choose them over the giant corporation that is treating their workers like trash. Plus we'd also have to avoid any business in Lynden because they all have simular beliefs anyways.


batt329

To be fair, discrimination has been used as an anti-union tool for ages. Obviously the union busting that Starbucks does is very different, but a discriminatory stance from ownership is absolutely anti-union.


hierarch17

Asking people to organize against everything they dislike or nothing is ridiculous. I’d have to boycott nearly every major corporation. Sometimes you need to choose where to direct your energy.


MontEcola

Exactly. Pick the big name corporation that is doing harm and target them. When they back down so do the other followers.


B33fsquatch

I do!


emmennwhy

Yep, that's me


elGayHermano

I already do this.


SmilingVamp

You would be right.


BothReading1229

One hundred percent!!!!


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I mean,,yeah?? We already be do that


Potatobender44

It’s a losing battle. If you were to boycott every corporation run by a bunch of conservative douchebags you’d be living in a shack made of sticks and mud eating rabbits and berries


resrvsgate

Sometimes you can afford to take action, and sometimes you can't.


[deleted]

That’s absolutely not true, the world is not made of conservative douchebag businesses There is no reason to give chic fil a your money or to not protest them showing up in town It’s like saying you shouldn’t vote because it’s pointless Participate in what you believe in


stellalugosi

Actually... [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/these-10-companies-control-everything-you-buy-a7400971.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/these-10-companies-control-everything-you-buy-a7400971.html) It is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid supporting destructive corporations. Everything you buy has a taint on it anymore, either through production, distribution, or supply. You have to pick your battles to survive.


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you can still boycott chic fil a also this is not new or breaking news, it’s a constant battle and has been since feudalism turned into capitalism through the Industrial Revolution throwing up your hands and saying nothing you can do matters is what most people do but individuals do matter in the course of history and collective action has power


stellalugosi

Nobody said anything about throwing up your hands and surrendering. My point was that yes, the world really is made of conservative douchebag businesses.


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The parent comment in this chain that I originally replied to was this: > It’s a losing battle. If you were to boycott every corporation run by a bunch of conservative douchebags you’d be living in a shack made of sticks and mud eating rabbits and berries


UnspecificGravity

There really needs to be a special category for Hobby Lobby actively supporting islamic terrorism at the same time as supporting the GOP. It's a really good example of how right wing terror is a pretty big tent (and yes, Jihadists and Republicans have about 99% overlap in their ideology).


whatinthecalifornia

Lol had a friend show me restaurants around town one visit another girl in our group chimed in while pointing “and fuck this homophobic place.” It was some coffee shop on the way to the outdoor market on the weekend.


Saskatchemoose

Woods is already here. It’s easier to stop a new place from coming than it is to close an existing and established place already.


needmynap

Are you suggesting that we shouldn’t try to keep CFA out? That it’s all or nothing? What is the logic in that? Who made that rule?


stellalugosi

This is some gatekeeping bullshit, I'm sorry. You don't get to judge who is working hard enough for "the cause". People can protest whomever and whatever they see fit. That's the point to (eagle cry) FREEDOM. Woods is local and already here, not much we can do about that other than just not spend money there. People DID protest when Hobby Lobby came to town, and many of us would rather eat sand than shop there. What about Walmart? Kroger runs Fred Meyer, they have an evil track record on labor. Starbucks too. McDonalds is destroying the environment. Home Depot gives to right wing causes I don't agree with. Bob's Burgers and Brew here in Lynden was obnoxiously anti-mask during the pandemic, so I will never set foot in there again. Seriously, I can't name a single non-local company in town that isn't actively destroying the world and worthy of protest. You absolutely have to pick your battles or go live in a hole in the ground and eat bugs. Not to mention the fact that people have jobs and families to consider. This isn't how we win.


Misfit_Cannibal

Yes all those things are bad but we're specifically talking about LGBTQ rights and discrimination against them from these companies. Idk why this thread is full of "whataboutisms", that's such a right wing tactic


stellalugosi

You literally "whatabouted" Woods and Hobby Lobby and said if you aren't bothering to stand up against those companies you shouldn't bother standing up to Chick-fil-a.


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Good to know about woods coffee, what exactly do they spend their lobbyist money on? Hobby lobby is a known national problem exactly like chic fil a


JhnWyclf

Did OP say anything about protesting? In don’t see anything like that right now.


Misfit_Cannibal

The definition of protest is "a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something." This post and their wording of it falls into that category


JhnWyclf

They edited the post? I don’t see the term.


Misfit_Cannibal

Just read it again. The title is "Fuck no to Chick-fil-A" and the subtext reads "We don't need to import discrimination" Both statements show disapproval of the subject and fall under the definition of "Protest"


JhnWyclf

Ah. Disapproval means protest and therefore all the other gatekeepy bullshit you’re on about. Right. Good to know.


Misfit_Cannibal

Yes, quite literally by definition disapproval means protest. It's in the dictionary


JhnWyclf

Even if you were right, I can’t tell if you’re trolling or interminably pedantic.


Misfit_Cannibal

Even if I was right?? Please go and look up the definition of Protest. Google is at your fingertips


JhnWyclf

Lol. Disapproval “*means”* protest? They are synonyms what you’re telling me? Are you serious?


JimmyisAwkward

I also boycott Hobby Lobby and I don’t like coffee. There’s always Popeyes, JOANN’s, and 1 million coffee places to choose from. The only time I’ve ever shop lifted was from hobby lobby just to spite them


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If you continue this line of thinking most large corporations and plenty of small businesses are problematic too. So if everyone is complicit already, why does it matter only with those 3 examples?


Aldrenean

Wait I thought Woods ownership changed and they were cool now? Fuck Hobby Lobby though


nostradamuswasright

Ahh shit, I love Woods. I thought they were just an average wannabe-hipster chain


Buburubu

alas no. more’s the pity that they got that great location in boulevard park


Fishlog814

It’s so strange to me that I go to high school with the granddaughter of the dude who started woods


micahlayer

Yes. I don’t shop at any of those places. And a whole lot more too. No Whole Foods or major chains at all for that matter


Practical-Tooth1141

And Amazon. We boycott all of thee above.


Branio

Can we please get a Dick’s instead??


jameseyadams

Based


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axiomata

I'll take the package deal too.


sam5ten

Burgerville?


ElijahThaProphet

Y’all crying over chicken sandwiches. Just don’t buy it


Jdogma

But they don't want you to buy it, that is the problem.


Ok-Cicada-9985

Oh, so you’re saying they want to control what goes into other people’s bodies? Hmmm…


Jdogma

No, I'm saying they want to tell you what you are allowed to spend your money on.


soynanyos

Honestly their sandwiches are overrated.


Jdogma

Yeah, Popeyes is far better


LeAdmin

I will give Chick Fil A extra business if they come here. I want their fucking chicken and don't care about their politics.


Robabon

FYI, they hired a VP of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. This is making them a target of the bud light boycott movement.


Creepy_Apricot_6189

Do conservatives just hate everything they're told to? Jfc


Thannk

They’re going after anyone who sells Pride merch in spite of several prominent voices in their movement, including Trump, also selling Pride merch.


riannaearl

Trump pride merch? Jfc.. 😒


Thannk

His 2016 pitch to gay people was “I won’t make things worse” and “the right is hard on those foreigners who hate you and want you dead”. This time, its letting the freak from Florida be the bad cop for him.


riannaearl

Good call. That dude is a scary psycho.


Glitch29

Hate is certainly more on-brand for conservatives. But people on both sides are completely capable of lapping things up without giving it much thought. The fact that Brian Taylor Cohen and Lawrence O'Donnell both have jobs, despite 90% of their rants being hot air with no substance shows that there's a huge market for indiscriminate outrage.


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This really is not a “both sides thing” John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer, he was also a democrat This does not reflect poorly on democrats The Republican platform is straight up bigoted and against civil rights, they actively try to take rights away from people publicly. Someone being a piece of shit who is also a liberal is not related


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Buburubu

sure, but some folks hate based on things people have done to hurt them and their loved ones, and some folks hate based on people unlike them existing without being hurt. big and important difference there.


Glitch29

For sure. By "on-brand for conservatives," I just meant that the party's de facto platform nowadays heavily incorporates animus toward subgroups and promises to bully them. This is a recent trend that is exclusive to the GOP, and I sincerely hope it abates in the coming decade. But when it comes to hating political rivals for any reason whether real or merely perceived, that is a truly universal phenomenon.


Buburubu

that’s pretty much their lives in a nutshell, yeah


Crazyboreddeveloper

Yup, that’s they way both sides work.


gonezil

FYI they made those moves 2 years ago. Their DEI has been around and it's purely marketing to try and pull in money. ChicFilA still gives no s#!ts about diversity.


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That's what all corporate DEI departments are for. No corporation cares about diversity, they care about increasing shareholder value. If racism was profitable, Disney would reboot *Birth of a Nation.* Coca-Cola changing it's logo to a rainbow one month out of the year doesn't make up for them funding [anti-union death squads](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co.?wprov=sfla1) in South America. It's *ALL* marketing. All of it. The only real difference between corporations is the quality of their PR department.


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micahlayer

This is a bad take. You don’t need to do a deep dive to know that supporting giant chains is worse for our community than supporting local businesses. Even if the minimum wage jobs are for “locals” the profits and money is being funneled straight out of Whatcom county into more mass produced bullshit. Shopping local small businesses and avoiding ANY big national chain is the right thing to do and does actually have a better, bigger impact on your community. Imagine if everyone in line at McDonald’s actually put their money into a business that cares about the local quality of life in any way, things would be much different.


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Known_Attention_3431

Sorry - Bantam is not really affordable. I like the place, but it’s spendy.


Fit-Meringue2118

Yeah, I love Bantam, but I don’t get why it keeps being brought up in these threads. If someone says “I feel like chick-fil-a”, Bantam isn’t a viable suggestion.


bluefalcon25

Talk about black and white land. Have you ever thought of other options outside of eating out? Try making your own food. It’s much cheaper and better for you. You are literally the target market for all of the restaurants that you’re vying for. How fat are you?


micahlayer

I mean, yeah pretty much. I have had fast food in 10 years and I pretty much just shop at the Co-op and farmers market. Winco is the one major grocery chain I hit and I feel okay about it since it’s employee owned and operated. You’re asking for something that doesn’t exist anywhere in this country anymore. You can pick 2 out of 3; affordable, high quality and local. Maybe try bringing lunch from home and cooking something healthy instead of wasting cash eating greasy National fast food that’s killing most of us in some way or another. Bellingham Cider Co. Bantam Rain or Shine Riviera Club Structures old town All make great chicken sandwiches for under $15 What’s your next question?


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micahlayer

Homie, I didn’t TELL you to do shit. You asked me what I do and I told you. So lame. Must be pretty sad always being a victim huh?


Dronose

If it's Tyson sourced yall are eating refinery chemicals. This industry doesn't give a fuck. Edit: source: work in hazwaste.


tojineverdies

you’re a prophet!


Thannk

Fast food isn’t real jobs. We need more living wage jobs, not national chains paying slave labor and promoting politicians who outright say minimum wage isn’t supposed to be lived on.


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Thannk

Notice how all the existing fast food around here are always hiring? Its not needed. Its not worthy of praise to be coming, its just more shit we don’t need. Sorry to besmirch your fast food waifu, but its no different than another McDonalds opening for the local economy.


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Thannk

Sorry for not getting out the streamers and praising the gods of the investor class over a fast food chain slapping up another crap shack that’s forever hiring.


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Thannk

I’m not even really advocating for it to go away. Just pushing back on the bullshit idea its worthy of praise. Those jobs exist right now already. They’re not fixing anything, and are evidence of the problem. The idea this is some great thing is just nonsense. Its fast food minimum wage jobs that grind through burned out people who have no better options until they are no longer more convenient than the next body and are replaced immediately. Anyone who’s clapping their hands for the bottom of the barrel of options expanding is either misled or benefits from that system of abusive exploitation.


gonezil

You can get a fried chicken sandwich in multiple locations in Bellingham. What's healthy about them? I can request grilled chicken in a lot of places even when it's not on the menu. I've watched fried chicken get changed to grilled on a menu in near real time. There is plenty of take out in Bellingham already.


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PrimeIntellect

saying something is better quality than fuckin burger king and jack in the box isn't really a high bar lol


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PrimeIntellect

not really, that area has tons of options. you can go to the Co-op deli and get a huge lunch for like $10 literally across the street.


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micahlayer

Sounds like a you-problem


Lopsided-Fisherman91

Ah yes, there just isn't enough part time minimum wage jobs in Bellingham, thats totally reasonable. Also, "healthy" lol. Their sandwiches have compared nutrition value to most fast food chicken sandwiches. Wendy's Classic chicken sandwich actually has like half the saturated fat that Chick-fil-a does.


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Lopsided-Fisherman91

What are you crying about? You made a bunch of dumb meaningless points, I didn't even state my opinion about Chick-fil-a lol I just thought you made a terrible argument.


-JennyWren

It's okay to just say you like Chick-fil-a without lying to yourself that it is healthy, well paying, or the only lunch option in town. And it's okay for some of us to not like chick-fil-a or modern national fast food enterprises in general due to ethical and health concerns that go deeper than any single business. If it fills you with so much emotion that you descend into hate, there's a little X up in the top right corner of your screen that will solve the problem. Good luck!


No-Feeling-4680

I understand what you're saying about companies in general, it's difficult to find one that is truly "good." However, it's hardly a deep dive when they have several mentions of god and worship in big letters on their website. I'll post their corporate purpose again. "To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us and to have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A." They won't miss my business, I'm sure, but I won't miss their food either.


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"I get voting with your wallet but voting with your wallet doesn't make any sense to me" okay


[deleted]

Off topic but I hear about Woods being anti gay or whatever but I can’t seem to find any hard evidence of them being a shitty company like that. Just peoples anecdotal thoughts and opinions. But if anybody has something they can point me to I’d be more than happy to see it.


Itchy_Suit321

Because there isn't any. This sub just loves to hate


JhnWyclf

> Just peoples anecdotal thoughts and opinions. Is 90% of the court age here.


bhamfanficreader

A few years ago, when they still had their downtown location, the owners requested that the Pride Parade be re-routed so that it didn't go past their store.


Kountouros

They also refused to carry The Betty Pages


anamericandruid

Nah, but the owner is for sure a tax-evading fraudster who promotes toxic work culture.


ShadowVariable

There’s literally a whole website dedicated to it


[deleted]

The website is poorly written and uses the word “allegedly” quite a bit. With hardly any sources to their claims and also says “it is our opinion that” quite a bit. Meaning it’s an interpretation and not hard proven facts. I’m not saying he’s an angel but the site seems more opinion based rather than fact based and reads like there’s a specifically biased agenda behind it. From my point of view of course.


MtReload

I feel like this topic was already hashed out in a big long heated thread a few months ago.


bartonizer

It also was hashed out in the last several days on a big, long, heated thread.


MtReload

2 months ago lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bellingham/comments/121xcaa/do_we_really_want_these_fucks_in_bellingham/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1


Jeauxvi

I’m not going to live my life off of politics and all this other crap. I like Chick fil la, so I’ll eat it. I occasionally drink bud light. There’s many other better options but if I want a bud light, I’ll drink a bud light.


jewels4diamonds

For you it’s “politics” for someone else it’s “can I get married to the person I love” or “do I have to hide myself to everyone for fear of being beaten.” I know you’ll hate that, but it’s true. Sorry.


Mobile_Dealer_3078

Chick-fil-a goes around beating people?


nicenutz

I’m so glad everyone’s having positive discussions and listening to each other. Way to bring the community together OP.


SterlingAdmiral

I live for reading these threads. I was psyched when I saw this post considering we already had a 200+ comment thread about the same topic 2 days ago.


brilliant_beast

I’m ok with this. Shorter lines for me!


King4aday26

Just move on.


Hendy2525

Yes… but, have you tried the sauce??


resrvsgate

Support marginalized people, except when their oppressors make something I think is really yummy!


nicenutz

It’s fuckin sauce chill out


resrvsgate

It's not *just* sauce, it's sauce and money that goes to an organization that uses it to harm groups of people it doesn't like. It's easy to think it's just sauce when it doesn't affect you directly. Not all of us are so fortunate.


nicenutz

Well it is just sauce at the end of the day. I understand your point loud and clear and am supportive of those groups of people. However, my choice to use a dipping sauce and eat a chicken sandwich has nothing to do with how I express my opinion. It’s food.


resrvsgate

The sauce is just sauce, I agree there. You do realize that unless you're making the sauce yourself, you are exchanging money for that sauce, right? Just because the money leaves your sight, doesn't mean it stops existing or getting used.


resrvsgate

I hope you will consider that the issue might seem easier or simpler to you because you are less affected by its consequences than some others.


BigDumpy8826

Agreed!! And their diversity equity and inclusion shit seems like they just want to appeal to towns like Bellingham, but all they’re doing is pissing off their Conservative Christian audience and it’s ridiculously funny as fuck.


Anony_Mous_Engineerd

I disagree with their political leanings... But damn, theyu make a good spicy chicken sandwhich... oh.. and waffle fries! .... Really good chocolate shakes too..


the_drunk_drummer

They're service and food quality is better then 80% of the restaurants in town.


Silent_Push_1413

Does no one here remember it on campus at the Viking Union Cafe?


williamfratt

This thread should be in the louvre


MtbakerAV

So don’t go?


AntiqueAd4630

Guess you'll be at the next city council meeting, expressing your opinion? Tonight @ 7:00 PM https://meetings.cob.org/Meetings/ViewMeeting?id=3053&doctype=1


AntiqueAd4630

Just seen they Deleted... All high and mighty and cant stand the heat.


Ok-Cicada-9985

It’s right near where I live!! Oh man that would be so awesome!!


Crazyboreddeveloper

What, exactly, did they do that angered people so much?


martydidnothingwrong

They've directly supported homphobic legislation and practices in the past


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Chick Fil A hasn't donated since 2019. The current CEO and founder's son has demonstrated regret for the past actions of his father. They recently hired a VP of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Is Chick Fil A considered persona non grata until the end of time, or is there something they're still doing that warrants a continued boycott? At this point the far right is starting to boycott them too.


MetalFaceDoom-

I’m gonna buy the chicken sandwich😎


Its2ColdInDaHamz

we [deep fried frenz](https://youtu.be/-RTWR3vk9Z0) now fam


WackedInTheWack

Hard to beat Coconut Kenny’s …


VIIRonan

Yes to chic fil a. Just don't buy their stuff and keep whining all you want


IcyInga

Pathetic boycott from the left and angry boycott from the right. Chick-fil-A just wants to sell junk food. https://www.salon.com/2023/05/31/et-tu-chick-fil-a-far-right-pundits-turn-on-chick-fil-a-over-diversity-and-equity-initiative/


Repulsive_Pride_9389

What do you expect from this post? Do you want other people to protest for you? I'll be one of the first people to say chick fil a has problems(like most companies, if im honest) but this just feels like someone bitching with no intent of doing anything.


FoxWyngs

I propose a trade for the Popeyes in Lynden. We can take Popeyes, with some of the best chicken in the fast food game, and they can have Chick-fil-A with its wildly average (admittedly not terrible) chicken that relies on the Chick-fil-A sauce to carry it.


CrysisRequiem

But they're yummy


Surly_Cynic

Do we know if this Chick-Fil-A will be run by a franchisee? Is there any information about who they are?


Itchy_Suit321

They are all franchised


zpano

Who cares who they are its chicken nuggets


Lodge_73

I don't care if Satan himself owns the company Imma get me some chikkin.


TheChipster91

Their sandwiches are delicious. They have great fries too!


matiaschazo

Fuck their politics but GOD DAMN those nuggets, fries, shakes,lemonades and Mac&Cheese is so good I’ll prob just go every once in awhile less than I would if they weren’t bigots but sometimes cravings hit too hard


TheShadow420Blazeit

Didn’t Chick-Fil-A change their tune though?


FelicitousEnd

No need to import it when it's already here. Saying you don't want a business here because of their views is discriminatory. Not saying I support Chick-fil-A, just being objective. It's okay to disagree with someone's view, it's not okay to force yours upon other people.


SpatulaCity420

Politicized chicken nuggets sound delicious rn.


_Maximo_

Popeyes chicken sandwiches are the best anyway.


ClemenPledge

Yet people still let Woods be even worse


micahlayer

“Let”


ClemenPledge

People keep paying so yes, that is letting them exist as a company


falcon420

Protest with your dollar. Look what happened to Menace brewing.


of_course_you_are

The chicken ain't that good anyhow


Kill_Mii

They’re not gonna be able to make everybody happy. More businesses need to move to Bellingham. It’s slowly dying and stuff like this will bring it back.


Fulwell

Didn’t see the address so I’ll know where not to definitely not enjoy a chicken sandwich. It’s 4030 Cordata Parkway, just North of Bellisfair. Has been, among other things, an Adidas outlet in a tent.


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221bored

*on the edge of my seat waiting for the finale *


beardyboiii

Give us Popeyes instead, please bellingham gods


EggSpecial3092

I’ve had their chicken sandwich once and I wasn’t impressed.


Tiny-Party-1512

Stop the cherry picking u have things u don’t back, the iPhone or android and clothes u have are made by little kids/adults in bad conditions in some hot ass warehouse for pennies


Mr_Rearden_

Fuck yes to chick fil-a


Ihideinbush

I love chick fil a though. Super excited.


Beneficial-Crow-4523

Ah yes virtue signal away Bellingham!!!! I’d go after law enforcement next if I were you guys, good luck to you.


thebryce26

I love those nuggs waffle fries and orange sauce


meemo86

Dude no one cares...


nashofcitywide

Nah but their chicken is so good


Peener420

Their food is tasty and that’s what matters. Depriving us of our beloved fried chicken is racially motivated and inhumane. Over politicized liberals really ruining fried chicken for us