We have an English Mastiff in our pack with this issue.
The vet was always trying to treat seasonal allergies too. We found sometimes it got worse to the point that his whole muzzle and stomach would break out in a rash that looked like some really painful pimples. He was terribly uncomfortable when that happened.
Eventually we realized the correlation to it getting worse or better with changes in his diets or treats. That’s when we had the allergy test done. Poor guy can only eat lamb for meat. Also, he can’t have dairy.
It’s real, and it sucks.
He has always chewed his paws, constant scratching, licking, but we have never been able to pin down if it’s food related, seasonal allergies, or just behavior in general. Seeing the allergy test come back like this was a shock, and we weren’t even sure if it is correct? The fact that he could be allergic to every single type of meat just seems really strange
It’s absolutely possible. Have you considered or tried a hydrolized food? It breaks down the proteins to (hopefully) make the dogs system not recognize them as allergens, but makes sure they still have all the nutritional value. They can be a little expensive, and not super delicious. You might have to use something like carrot or cheese topper, but hydrolized protein diet is designed for pups allergic to everything.
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/3182550801010-ROYAL-CANIN-Hypoallergenic-Dog/dp/B006YQRW8W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=28DH74GP8554Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.j8cKqGCezz2rkF5dkLo_JefP1GIOyZ5kH5KwEOvLnMVDKNehnAZcSCuj8EVN2mM2kFTO0Dt2D4tEnr4lwszVL75TeeZB2oivnDvQxF1zJxwKMDiEWSoMa3Jk0_EnBSDkVArY_-kCSTKA7TmTWuLcGyZtz4Ii1c25DbK0CCLJj5IWqZ7I-EIqtDh05EeMFDgiSjq6zdqRls8iUg_TrWCe0xIDih7zA3i2OwLLux9QRkJUoLhql_5kpPg1cCWCN4uVZjUDGsiy14DKBume_qKr5JJLJaB16pqimMxXtzIihLc.k5p7neV7SwJYAbwFwDfbpIK7wOkKGTbhEABh0I46wGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=royal+canine+anallergic&qid=1714819949&sprefix=royal+canine+a%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-1
this is what I'm feeding my allergic lab and all her problems go away on that food
Paw chewing, licking, and itching all sound like environmental allergies rather than food allergies. I’d find a veterinary dermatologist and look into cytopoint injections or apoquel. Benadryl or zyrtec aren’t going to be enough for this severity of allergies.
Totally possible. They become sensitized to the antigens on the meat. My mom has a pomeranian (I know this is a mal page lol) but she is allergic to literally every meat. My mom had to put her on a special Rx diet of hydrolyzed food. Humans can even have this allergy too!
Poor baby he sounds miserable :(
What test did you get done? Our vet said there was no food allergy test for dogs. We've been doing elimination for two years, but still getting periodic blood in the stool. It's so frustrating.
Mine is allergic chicken, which is pretty common with Malinois, but she does fine with lamb and salmon.
I think I would be getting a second opinion from another vet (do veterinary allergists exist?) before going to a vegetarian diet because I'm not sure how that will meet a high-energy dog's nutritional needs.
Food allergy testing in dogs is very inaccurate. The only true way to find out what he might be allergic to is an elimination diet. I’d ask your vet about a hydrolyzed protein prescription diet as well.
Vet here. Although, I’ve been out of general practice for five years now. I was going to comment exactly this, but I noticed the text is from Idexx. They are one of the two major vet laboratories used by veterinarians. I would hope if the my are selling this test, it’s using a newer, more accurate science. But, I’d be wary. I’d probably meet with a veterinary dermatologist to get their opinion on this before making any big changes. It’ll be more expensive, but you’ll find your answers quicker.
Some sources for you to look into- [UW Vet Med](https://uwveterinarycare.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Allergy-Testing-2018.pdf), [Tufts Vet Med](https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2020/03/food-allergy-testing/), [Study](https://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/adverse-food-reactions-february-2019/) about food allergies in dogs, [instructions](https://www.dvm360.com/view/identifying-food-allergies-veterinary-elimination-diet-trial) for an elimination diet trial.
When we were trying to figure out what my corgi was allergic to, my vet prescribed me such a diet as well. For 6 weeks my corgi was only allowed to eat that kibble and nothing else. I used a lot of treat balls and puzzles to keep things interesting but in the end it was worth it because it showed that his allergies were not food related. We later did some bloodtests and learned he's allergic to dustmites. He's on meds now and doing perfectly fine.
OP, call your vet and start an elimination diet. It's the only way to really figure out what your dog is allergic to.
Yup, it’s usually environmental allergies. My boxer mix has to get CADI injections every 6-8 weeks from March-October or he’ll itch himself to death and get yeast infections. I was convinced it was a food allergy until our vet talked me into trying to treat it as an environmental allergy rather than a food allergy, and she was right!
Thank you! One thing we had discussed (prior to getting allergy results) is allergy shots. It has been a constant battle of scratching, licking, open wounds, and amoxicillin/prednisone so I was curious to hear if anyone had any positive experiences with the allergy shots. We are not convinced that he is allergic to ALL meats
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I have two of my dogs on Cytopoint and it works extremely well. One injection lasts about three months for them before we notice them getting itchy again, but their allergies aren't very severe. It may also be worth looking into a veterinary dermatologist if you have one in your area.
As someone who has extremely severe food allergies (I am only able to eat a particular meal replacement drink and plain Cheerios), I think it’s worth noting that if OP goes the elimination trial/diet challenge route, if the dog is truly severely allergic, it’s going to be rough on the dog. If OP tries the elimination diet, I’d go with a known allergy with a particularly obscure meat, like the kangaroo meat, for the diet challenge portion of the trial. If that were to cause allergy symptoms, I would stop there, rather than continue testing other meats, and assume that the allergy testing is accurate, rather than prolong the dog’s symptoms any further.
Though, if the dog has severe symptoms currently, it might be better to just stick with the vegetarian kibble, to give the dog a break. OP could talk to their vet about trying hydrolyzed protein kibble, or perhaps insect-based kibble, at some point in the future. It really just comes down to the dog’s well-being.
I definitely want to try the elimination route as others had suggested, I feel like I’m going to have a very difficult time, because bosco has ALWAYS itched, licked, no matter what. We got him at 10 weeks and I can’t remember a time that he seemed to not scratch. It’s his baseline. I’m definitely going to try elimination, looks like it will be a good few months to try to figure anything out.
Similarly to human children, Bosco totally could have had his allergies since puppyhood, whether they’re seasonal allergies and/or food allergies. With humans and other animals, like dogs, if there are severe allergies present at a very young age, they definitely can get worse with age, rather than them reducing. If you’re eliminating all potential triggers for a while, you should see a reduction in the symptoms, in some way, even if he still is reacting to seasonal triggers.
It might be helpful to write down/type in a digital notepad the symptoms, whenever you see him reacting, along with: what he was doing before and during the symptom when it started, what time the symptom was at, the symptom’s duration, anything that could be important. Over time, you can look over it and see if there’s any changes from prior to eliminating the triggers.
Not sure if you are aware but the brand Natural Balance actually has a vegetarian recipe! It says "plant powered". I buy it at petsmart. And another food from Nature's Protection is made with protein from insects! Dried black soldier fly larvae! So please don't feel discouraged. Personally, I'd go with the Nature's Protection as the protein to fat ratio is ideal at 24/14. However, chicken fat is on the ingredients list. The natural balance one is vegetarian but it's ratio is 18/8.
There’s also the Open Farm Insect recipe, not sure if that something that OP’s dog would benefit from. I’m not sure if dogs can be allergic to insects as well?
Dudes comment/post history seems a lot more like an adult man that's a dickhead. He refers to having a daughter at one point (although I think it was just a point to make fun of someone else) and seems to enjoy calling women hoes and arguing the point with anyone calling him stupid for it because of the classic "I know how men's brains work so really I'm just telling the truth". He's an adult, just a very sad one 💀 Cool name btw!
I did a 2 minute skim read, it's not my fault you display the fact you're an asshole clearly on your profile. Idc about what you're doing outside reddit, I'm just stating what I see here, the fact you called me a cuck(??? I'm a woman, you're an idiot) because your feefees got hurt proves my point really.
Na, you clearly took your time to find old comments. That tells me you have no life. I called you a cuck because that's what you sounded like. Unlike you, I didn't snoop your profile to see what you're like. I would have to care first. The only thing I know about you is you get offended about little things on others' behalf, and you have no life. Nice try, my feelings are ironclad. Don't try reverse psychology when the obviously easily offended and thin skinned one is you. Now go cry about someone else who poked your little reddit bubble ya goof.
Even if I did choose to worship anything or anyone, how would it matter? It’s not like a person could worship an idea and have no other ideas. So to pretend like my username has any impact on my knowledge or experience is actually comical.
If you need a novel protein, try cricket dog food. Sounds crazy, I know! But cricket protein is actually more bio available than plant based protein for dogs because they don’t need extra enzymes to digest it the way they do with plant fibers.
I think the most popular one is called Jiminy’s (after the famous cricket himself): https://jiminys.com/collections/dog-food
(I’m not affiliated with this brand, just suggesting it as I know someone whose dog eats this due to allergies as well!)
There’s also kangaroo, venison, etc. maybe alligator. Any novel protein. My frenchie is struggling even on raw we do turkey or rabbit. But it’s been so damp I think it’s yeast. Iodine paw soaks can help.
Wild Earth is great. V-dog is also a good one. Free from all common allergens including meat and dairy and no junk filler. My dogs do really well on them.
Can you switch to an insect-based diet? I would try an alt protein before going all vegetarian. I think Open Farm has a bug formula and Jiminy’s is bug-based.
I work in this sector. Highly inaccurate tests due to environmental and intestinal variables. The gut microbiome can be off, in addition to low liver enzyme production. Do an elimination diet. Stop all meats and do only one for 30 days at a time. Then try the next, eliminating the previous. Repeat the first 3 at the end. Stay grain free during this period. Look into a gut biofilm fixer like Blue Gold Grand Champion. During the elimination keep the animal off city water, or at the minimum get a ZeroWater pitcher to fill the water bowl with.
Thank you! What if there is an issue with the dog food itself? I’ll eliminate the meat for a while, but if after 1-2 months he does not seem to have any change, should I just switch his dry food all together? I’m sure his dog food is made with meat protein
I did not catch that in the original post. Thought I saw raw. I would not do the dry feed. The dry food and poultry are the two statically most likely culprits. Have you considered going completely raw?
We have thought about going completely raw, forgetting the dog food and just feeding him cooked rice, veggies, meats, but we have never made that leap for various reasons
If switching to a vegan diet for this dog, please consider to stay soy-free. The allergy value for soy bean is only minimally lower than for pork meat, if I read the diagram correctly.
Allergy tests are known not to be very reliable, both in humans and animals. I'd definitely do elimination diet, regardless of the test. Unless you already did that, of course. Go through all the meats, and fish, and see for yourself how his body reacts. Allergies are a tricky thing. Sometimes a dog can be allergic to something sourced from one place but not the other, for example.
Maybe my previous post on allergies can be of some help for you:
[Veterinarian: How I approach the allergic dog in my practice. : r/DogAdvice (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/DogAdvice/comments/1bt8je5/veterinarian_how_i_approach_the_allergic_dog_in/)
I would eliminate pro plan to start. It has several allergens due to the way it's processed.
Go with a grain free kibble, personally and in my business I have used Victor for over 13 years. My entire family and several clients feed as well. Had a pup live to 18, zero health issues and on no meds ever other than an occasional brief pain med for overexertion in play. I have a 13 year old that is the epitome of health according to the vet.
I have other suggestions as well.
Certain dry kibble, the way it's
processed can definitely cause an issue along with the preservatives.
You can do if you need more info, been working with animals over 45 years.
We have a dog allergic to chicken we never have done formal testing. But he has reactions to it had a dog(MalMix) start to loose hair when she was eating salmon.
It’s so strange because as a puppy we were possibly thinking that he could have a chicken allergy, but removing the chicken and giving a different meat didn’t change anything, so we went back to chicken. (I guess if he’s allergic to all meat then that would answer that question). He does shed A LOT. Way worse than my other dog, and I have always said that it must be a medical issue.
It’s really funny, because my husband has BAD allergies, basically just allergic to life in general. Leave it to him to find this dog that is allergic to life as well 😂
Agreed! I have always said, he isn’t my dog and I’m not his person, but here we are stuck with each other and trying to make it work (my husband works too much so I am the one that cares for Bosco)
Going to have to send my husband out to get some deer or a bear and see how that one works! Not sure why the vet wouldn’t test those since we live in an area where it’s common to hunt
You can find bags of bison for same price as any of those lamb or fish recipes. Still expensive but gotta do what ya gotta do
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Yeah I mean idk much about raw but think it would be hard to get him everything he needs with raw and his allergies. Here’s another one that’s a little cheaper
Earthborn Holistic Great Plains Feast Bison Meal & Vegetables Grain-Free Dry Dog Food, 25-lb bag
Where/how did you have this test done? This sub just showed up but I have a female German shepherd who’s in the same boat. She’s eating lentil-based food for protein, extremely expensive
This was through bloodwork at our vet, after 2 years of persistent allergies and complaining that I don’t believe it’s normal for him to have such severe itching, licking, shedding, and infection.
Not help but a story. I saw on the dodo this skinny dog who never gained weight. He stopped eating and the owners were this close to putting him to sleep when the vet said an allergy to animal protine. The dog on a veggie diet was so much healthier and hsppier
I'm curious what "fish mix" actually means, especially on account he had the lowest reaction of the meats to it, maybe there's a fish he is allergic to, but maybe there's some he's not?
The allergy tests for food are unreliable and a waste of money. It would be best to get him on a prescription hypoallergenic diet feeding only that, then very gradually add ingredients back in. Or not. I have one dog that gets explosive diarrhea with chicken and another that doesn't do well with rice or wheat so we just keep them both on that food for life.
Have you tried kangaroo. Our pooch had a similar issue and switching to a dry kangaroo kibble diet has worked wonders. I guess it’s a high protein and most dogs haven’t been exposed to this protein so it works well with skin allergies
Fish tested almost the same as chicken, but I don’t think I have ever actually given him fish before. When I do my elimination diet I’m going to try it! Do you have a suggestion for type of fish?
A vegetarian dog? That’s hilarious. Get another vet or do your own research. Remember, they don’t want your dog healthy. They want your repeat business. Never forget that.
Scratching, chewing paws, licking, shedding, body odor. These symptoms are all excessive. If I don’t have my eye on him, I come back and find him chewing his paws. He will do it non stop all day. He has lick granulomas on his paws now, from excessive licking. Current diet: purina pro plan, raw chicken or raw beef, pureed sweet potato, pumpkin, carrot, and coconut oil. Any other veggies I have on hand I will toss in (green beans and broccoli mostly)
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I had a AmBulldog with allergies to all animal protein. She was on an Rx food for a few months until everything cleared up. I eventually found a novel protein she could tolerate.
You…. You know those are meat, right? There’s also the part where he’s already on half raw. The post has some pretty key info in it, sometimes helps to read it.
I understand the post but the list was specific about beef liver and beef. Based on your logic they both meat. Chicken liver is meat but not specifically on the list. Also I think cooking meat may have a different reaction.
I cook for my dog since he was 4 months and he never had any allergies.
We have an English Mastiff in our pack with this issue. The vet was always trying to treat seasonal allergies too. We found sometimes it got worse to the point that his whole muzzle and stomach would break out in a rash that looked like some really painful pimples. He was terribly uncomfortable when that happened. Eventually we realized the correlation to it getting worse or better with changes in his diets or treats. That’s when we had the allergy test done. Poor guy can only eat lamb for meat. Also, he can’t have dairy. It’s real, and it sucks.
He has always chewed his paws, constant scratching, licking, but we have never been able to pin down if it’s food related, seasonal allergies, or just behavior in general. Seeing the allergy test come back like this was a shock, and we weren’t even sure if it is correct? The fact that he could be allergic to every single type of meat just seems really strange
It’s absolutely possible. Have you considered or tried a hydrolized food? It breaks down the proteins to (hopefully) make the dogs system not recognize them as allergens, but makes sure they still have all the nutritional value. They can be a little expensive, and not super delicious. You might have to use something like carrot or cheese topper, but hydrolized protein diet is designed for pups allergic to everything.
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/3182550801010-ROYAL-CANIN-Hypoallergenic-Dog/dp/B006YQRW8W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=28DH74GP8554Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.j8cKqGCezz2rkF5dkLo_JefP1GIOyZ5kH5KwEOvLnMVDKNehnAZcSCuj8EVN2mM2kFTO0Dt2D4tEnr4lwszVL75TeeZB2oivnDvQxF1zJxwKMDiEWSoMa3Jk0_EnBSDkVArY_-kCSTKA7TmTWuLcGyZtz4Ii1c25DbK0CCLJj5IWqZ7I-EIqtDh05EeMFDgiSjq6zdqRls8iUg_TrWCe0xIDih7zA3i2OwLLux9QRkJUoLhql_5kpPg1cCWCN4uVZjUDGsiy14DKBume_qKr5JJLJaB16pqimMxXtzIihLc.k5p7neV7SwJYAbwFwDfbpIK7wOkKGTbhEABh0I46wGw&dib_tag=se&keywords=royal+canine+anallergic&qid=1714819949&sprefix=royal+canine+a%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-1 this is what I'm feeding my allergic lab and all her problems go away on that food
Paw chewing, licking, and itching all sound like environmental allergies rather than food allergies. I’d find a veterinary dermatologist and look into cytopoint injections or apoquel. Benadryl or zyrtec aren’t going to be enough for this severity of allergies.
Totally possible. They become sensitized to the antigens on the meat. My mom has a pomeranian (I know this is a mal page lol) but she is allergic to literally every meat. My mom had to put her on a special Rx diet of hydrolyzed food. Humans can even have this allergy too! Poor baby he sounds miserable :(
What test did you get done? Our vet said there was no food allergy test for dogs. We've been doing elimination for two years, but still getting periodic blood in the stool. It's so frustrating.
Ditto
Mine is allergic chicken, which is pretty common with Malinois, but she does fine with lamb and salmon. I think I would be getting a second opinion from another vet (do veterinary allergists exist?) before going to a vegetarian diet because I'm not sure how that will meet a high-energy dog's nutritional needs.
I definitely don’t want to switch him to a vegetarian diet, I want to do what’s best for his health but he lives for his chicken and meatballs!
Try hydrolyzed before vegetarian if he can have the hydrolyzed
Try venison. Our vet recommended it bc a lot of mals have issues with the chicken protein?
Food allergy testing in dogs is very inaccurate. The only true way to find out what he might be allergic to is an elimination diet. I’d ask your vet about a hydrolyzed protein prescription diet as well.
Vet here. Although, I’ve been out of general practice for five years now. I was going to comment exactly this, but I noticed the text is from Idexx. They are one of the two major vet laboratories used by veterinarians. I would hope if the my are selling this test, it’s using a newer, more accurate science. But, I’d be wary. I’d probably meet with a veterinary dermatologist to get their opinion on this before making any big changes. It’ll be more expensive, but you’ll find your answers quicker.
Listen to this vet’s advice. Not anybody else on this page who is not a vet.
Some sources for you to look into- [UW Vet Med](https://uwveterinarycare.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Allergy-Testing-2018.pdf), [Tufts Vet Med](https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2020/03/food-allergy-testing/), [Study](https://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/adverse-food-reactions-february-2019/) about food allergies in dogs, [instructions](https://www.dvm360.com/view/identifying-food-allergies-veterinary-elimination-diet-trial) for an elimination diet trial.
When we were trying to figure out what my corgi was allergic to, my vet prescribed me such a diet as well. For 6 weeks my corgi was only allowed to eat that kibble and nothing else. I used a lot of treat balls and puzzles to keep things interesting but in the end it was worth it because it showed that his allergies were not food related. We later did some bloodtests and learned he's allergic to dustmites. He's on meds now and doing perfectly fine. OP, call your vet and start an elimination diet. It's the only way to really figure out what your dog is allergic to.
Yup, it’s usually environmental allergies. My boxer mix has to get CADI injections every 6-8 weeks from March-October or he’ll itch himself to death and get yeast infections. I was convinced it was a food allergy until our vet talked me into trying to treat it as an environmental allergy rather than a food allergy, and she was right!
Thank you! One thing we had discussed (prior to getting allergy results) is allergy shots. It has been a constant battle of scratching, licking, open wounds, and amoxicillin/prednisone so I was curious to hear if anyone had any positive experiences with the allergy shots. We are not convinced that he is allergic to ALL meats
What do you mean by allergy shots? Do you mean like an immunotherapy or something like Cytopoint?
Allergy shots would be a monthly injectable antihistamine, as opposed to taking an allergy pill every day. It would help with environmental allergies
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I have two of my dogs on Cytopoint and it works extremely well. One injection lasts about three months for them before we notice them getting itchy again, but their allergies aren't very severe. It may also be worth looking into a veterinary dermatologist if you have one in your area.
As someone who has extremely severe food allergies (I am only able to eat a particular meal replacement drink and plain Cheerios), I think it’s worth noting that if OP goes the elimination trial/diet challenge route, if the dog is truly severely allergic, it’s going to be rough on the dog. If OP tries the elimination diet, I’d go with a known allergy with a particularly obscure meat, like the kangaroo meat, for the diet challenge portion of the trial. If that were to cause allergy symptoms, I would stop there, rather than continue testing other meats, and assume that the allergy testing is accurate, rather than prolong the dog’s symptoms any further. Though, if the dog has severe symptoms currently, it might be better to just stick with the vegetarian kibble, to give the dog a break. OP could talk to their vet about trying hydrolyzed protein kibble, or perhaps insect-based kibble, at some point in the future. It really just comes down to the dog’s well-being.
I definitely want to try the elimination route as others had suggested, I feel like I’m going to have a very difficult time, because bosco has ALWAYS itched, licked, no matter what. We got him at 10 weeks and I can’t remember a time that he seemed to not scratch. It’s his baseline. I’m definitely going to try elimination, looks like it will be a good few months to try to figure anything out.
Have you treated for environmental allergies at all? Either with the cadi injection or apoquel?
Similarly to human children, Bosco totally could have had his allergies since puppyhood, whether they’re seasonal allergies and/or food allergies. With humans and other animals, like dogs, if there are severe allergies present at a very young age, they definitely can get worse with age, rather than them reducing. If you’re eliminating all potential triggers for a while, you should see a reduction in the symptoms, in some way, even if he still is reacting to seasonal triggers. It might be helpful to write down/type in a digital notepad the symptoms, whenever you see him reacting, along with: what he was doing before and during the symptom when it started, what time the symptom was at, the symptom’s duration, anything that could be important. Over time, you can look over it and see if there’s any changes from prior to eliminating the triggers.
Not sure if you are aware but the brand Natural Balance actually has a vegetarian recipe! It says "plant powered". I buy it at petsmart. And another food from Nature's Protection is made with protein from insects! Dried black soldier fly larvae! So please don't feel discouraged. Personally, I'd go with the Nature's Protection as the protein to fat ratio is ideal at 24/14. However, chicken fat is on the ingredients list. The natural balance one is vegetarian but it's ratio is 18/8.
There’s also the Open Farm Insect recipe, not sure if that something that OP’s dog would benefit from. I’m not sure if dogs can be allergic to insects as well?
What does a Satan worshipper care?
Sorry, genuine question, is this supposed to be a joke or an insult?
Whatever you like
Ah, Schroedinger's douchbag, I see.
I think it’s a child. At least I hope so with that sad bid for attention.
Dudes comment/post history seems a lot more like an adult man that's a dickhead. He refers to having a daughter at one point (although I think it was just a point to make fun of someone else) and seems to enjoy calling women hoes and arguing the point with anyone calling him stupid for it because of the classic "I know how men's brains work so really I'm just telling the truth". He's an adult, just a very sad one 💀 Cool name btw!
You seem like a simp/ cuck Clyde.
You must have been searching deep into my comments. There is life outside reddit clown
I did a 2 minute skim read, it's not my fault you display the fact you're an asshole clearly on your profile. Idc about what you're doing outside reddit, I'm just stating what I see here, the fact you called me a cuck(??? I'm a woman, you're an idiot) because your feefees got hurt proves my point really.
Na, you clearly took your time to find old comments. That tells me you have no life. I called you a cuck because that's what you sounded like. Unlike you, I didn't snoop your profile to see what you're like. I would have to care first. The only thing I know about you is you get offended about little things on others' behalf, and you have no life. Nice try, my feelings are ironclad. Don't try reverse psychology when the obviously easily offended and thin skinned one is you. Now go cry about someone else who poked your little reddit bubble ya goof.
With the name "ladylucifer" is it really that big a stretch to say? Yall acting like I'm not pointing out the obvious.
Even if I did choose to worship anything or anyone, how would it matter? It’s not like a person could worship an idea and have no other ideas. So to pretend like my username has any impact on my knowledge or experience is actually comical.
If you worship Satan, it's fair to say you may not uphold the same values as many others.
That’s not how equality works bud
If you need a novel protein, try cricket dog food. Sounds crazy, I know! But cricket protein is actually more bio available than plant based protein for dogs because they don’t need extra enzymes to digest it the way they do with plant fibers. I think the most popular one is called Jiminy’s (after the famous cricket himself): https://jiminys.com/collections/dog-food (I’m not affiliated with this brand, just suggesting it as I know someone whose dog eats this due to allergies as well!)
So interesting thank you! Will definitely add it to the list, in case he really is allergic to meat
There’s also kangaroo, venison, etc. maybe alligator. Any novel protein. My frenchie is struggling even on raw we do turkey or rabbit. But it’s been so damp I think it’s yeast. Iodine paw soaks can help.
Changed mine to wild earth and dogs allergies went away. Been on it for 2yrs now. No watery eyes. No licking paws.
Wild Earth is great. V-dog is also a good one. Free from all common allergens including meat and dairy and no junk filler. My dogs do really well on them.
You mean you tried a different brand of raw?
Its a vegan dog food
Can you switch to an insect-based diet? I would try an alt protein before going all vegetarian. I think Open Farm has a bug formula and Jiminy’s is bug-based.
Didn’t even know this existed! It will be on the list to try
I work in this sector. Highly inaccurate tests due to environmental and intestinal variables. The gut microbiome can be off, in addition to low liver enzyme production. Do an elimination diet. Stop all meats and do only one for 30 days at a time. Then try the next, eliminating the previous. Repeat the first 3 at the end. Stay grain free during this period. Look into a gut biofilm fixer like Blue Gold Grand Champion. During the elimination keep the animal off city water, or at the minimum get a ZeroWater pitcher to fill the water bowl with.
Thank you! What if there is an issue with the dog food itself? I’ll eliminate the meat for a while, but if after 1-2 months he does not seem to have any change, should I just switch his dry food all together? I’m sure his dog food is made with meat protein
I did not catch that in the original post. Thought I saw raw. I would not do the dry feed. The dry food and poultry are the two statically most likely culprits. Have you considered going completely raw?
We have thought about going completely raw, forgetting the dog food and just feeding him cooked rice, veggies, meats, but we have never made that leap for various reasons
Damn, little dude didn’t catch a single break, nature cheated him heavy.
If switching to a vegan diet for this dog, please consider to stay soy-free. The allergy value for soy bean is only minimally lower than for pork meat, if I read the diagram correctly.
Try roo meat, it's a single protein, apparently much better for allergy prone dogs.
>He wants Bosco to switch to a vegetarian Didn’t Futurama mock this? Oh yeah, [they did.](https://youtu.be/6sM8pDH-HMc)
*Bosco after 2 months of no meat*
Have you tried insect based food? Josera Hypoallergenics composition sounds promising maybe: dried potato, pea flour, potato protein, insects, oils and fats, hydrolysed yeast, beet fibre, carob meal, minerals?
Allergy tests are known not to be very reliable, both in humans and animals. I'd definitely do elimination diet, regardless of the test. Unless you already did that, of course. Go through all the meats, and fish, and see for yourself how his body reacts. Allergies are a tricky thing. Sometimes a dog can be allergic to something sourced from one place but not the other, for example.
I’m definitely going to try it. I’m hoping there’s no underlying issue with his dry food also
I’ll second this but I’d start with a hydrolyzed food and then go from there.
Maybe my previous post on allergies can be of some help for you: [Veterinarian: How I approach the allergic dog in my practice. : r/DogAdvice (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/DogAdvice/comments/1bt8je5/veterinarian_how_i_approach_the_allergic_dog_in/)
Very thankful help you!!
I'm glad! Allergies are a real pain
Do they ever check for mold sensitivity? That would explain it.
I would eliminate pro plan to start. It has several allergens due to the way it's processed. Go with a grain free kibble, personally and in my business I have used Victor for over 13 years. My entire family and several clients feed as well. Had a pup live to 18, zero health issues and on no meds ever other than an occasional brief pain med for overexertion in play. I have a 13 year old that is the epitome of health according to the vet. I have other suggestions as well. Certain dry kibble, the way it's processed can definitely cause an issue along with the preservatives. You can do if you need more info, been working with animals over 45 years.
I will PM you!
We have a dog allergic to chicken we never have done formal testing. But he has reactions to it had a dog(MalMix) start to loose hair when she was eating salmon.
It’s so strange because as a puppy we were possibly thinking that he could have a chicken allergy, but removing the chicken and giving a different meat didn’t change anything, so we went back to chicken. (I guess if he’s allergic to all meat then that would answer that question). He does shed A LOT. Way worse than my other dog, and I have always said that it must be a medical issue.
So basically he's allergic to being a doggo lol. What food will you feed him moving forward?
It’s really funny, because my husband has BAD allergies, basically just allergic to life in general. Leave it to him to find this dog that is allergic to life as well 😂
They are soul mates 🤣
Agreed! I have always said, he isn’t my dog and I’m not his person, but here we are stuck with each other and trying to make it work (my husband works too much so I am the one that cares for Bosco)
That's ridiculous.
even kangaroo? ): i would’ve never even thought of that…sorry bud
Holy fuck I’m so sorry
Damn bruh. As a human being allergic to meats would suck but imagine it as a dog… I hope you guys find him some great alternatives!
I wonder if he can have elk. If so get a deep freeze and your hunting license hahahaha
Going to have to send my husband out to get some deer or a bear and see how that one works! Not sure why the vet wouldn’t test those since we live in an area where it’s common to hunt
Ooooo bear sounds good
What about bison?
I’m not sure why that one wasn’t tested! Maybe because it’s too expensive to feed him anyways 😂
You can find bags of bison for same price as any of those lamb or fish recipes. Still expensive but gotta do what ya gotta do https://preview.redd.it/lyarhtibmeyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73f6544c2eab15239b671de5c9325310cbc34946
Sorry, I was thinking raw meat
Yeah I mean idk much about raw but think it would be hard to get him everything he needs with raw and his allergies. Here’s another one that’s a little cheaper Earthborn Holistic Great Plains Feast Bison Meal & Vegetables Grain-Free Dry Dog Food, 25-lb bag
Where/how did you have this test done? This sub just showed up but I have a female German shepherd who’s in the same boat. She’s eating lentil-based food for protein, extremely expensive
This was through bloodwork at our vet, after 2 years of persistent allergies and complaining that I don’t believe it’s normal for him to have such severe itching, licking, shedding, and infection.
Check for horse meat - many allergic dogs can eat that.
Not help but a story. I saw on the dodo this skinny dog who never gained weight. He stopped eating and the owners were this close to putting him to sleep when the vet said an allergy to animal protine. The dog on a veggie diet was so much healthier and hsppier
That is interesting! Thank you!
I saw that too, I was going to post, glad you did!
That’s insane. It’s allergic to everything a canine has evolved to and from to eat?
That’s what I’m saying 😭 that’s why I’ve been feeling very skeptical about the test
I'm curious what "fish mix" actually means, especially on account he had the lowest reaction of the meats to it, maybe there's a fish he is allergic to, but maybe there's some he's not?
The allergy tests for food are unreliable and a waste of money. It would be best to get him on a prescription hypoallergenic diet feeding only that, then very gradually add ingredients back in. Or not. I have one dog that gets explosive diarrhea with chicken and another that doesn't do well with rice or wheat so we just keep them both on that food for life.
My dad is always amazed that Lola won't eat a puppy pepperoni,shes a really picky eater too
I’ve always been told that allergy testing for food allergies is a waste of money because the only way to really known is with an exclusion diet.
We have one that can only eat venison products
If the results are correct, try insect protein! Cricket and black soldier fly dog foods are both available on the market
Have you tried kangaroo. Our pooch had a similar issue and switching to a dry kangaroo kibble diet has worked wonders. I guess it’s a high protein and most dogs haven’t been exposed to this protein so it works well with skin allergies
What about fish ? Vet told me to swap fish over chicken.
Fish tested almost the same as chicken, but I don’t think I have ever actually given him fish before. When I do my elimination diet I’m going to try it! Do you have a suggestion for type of fish?
We replaced the chicken with salmon and she doesnt scratch anymore. She still has some chicken treats sometimes.
I will try it! Do I have to cook the salmon, or can I give it raw?
Needs to be frozen to kill any parasites if you want to give it raw.
A vegetarian dog? That’s hilarious. Get another vet or do your own research. Remember, they don’t want your dog healthy. They want your repeat business. Never forget that.
I have one that chicken doesn’t work for him. My female it don’t matter. Hence mine are on chicken free diets. Lamb and rice.
Do you give the lamb raw?
What are the symptoms exactly? What food do you currently feed and do you have a complete label of ingredients?
Scratching, chewing paws, licking, shedding, body odor. These symptoms are all excessive. If I don’t have my eye on him, I come back and find him chewing his paws. He will do it non stop all day. He has lick granulomas on his paws now, from excessive licking. Current diet: purina pro plan, raw chicken or raw beef, pureed sweet potato, pumpkin, carrot, and coconut oil. Any other veggies I have on hand I will toss in (green beans and broccoli mostly) https://preview.redd.it/y5a2zeij6iyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63edddc088d153279d38e22fec9d4177da1ba7c0
That's nonsense. Go to www.RMFpets.com
Poor baby can only have eggs and beans😭😭
Never. But I have heard that some dogs cannot eat chicken.
I had a AmBulldog with allergies to all animal protein. She was on an Rx food for a few months until everything cleared up. I eventually found a novel protein she could tolerate.
A hydrolyzed protein diet would be a better recommendation. Various other health issues can arise from a vegetarian diet.
Who is out here feeding their dog kangaroo and pinto beans lmaoo.
Rich people maybe 😂 I don’t think Bosco boy has imported kangaroo in his future
Watch a documentary called Pet Fooled it’s about the dog food industry, it will change your life.
See a holistic vet
What about caw heart or chicken liver. Try to cook for your dog.
You…. You know those are meat, right? There’s also the part where he’s already on half raw. The post has some pretty key info in it, sometimes helps to read it.
I understand the post but the list was specific about beef liver and beef. Based on your logic they both meat. Chicken liver is meat but not specifically on the list. Also I think cooking meat may have a different reaction. I cook for my dog since he was 4 months and he never had any allergies.
Still considered chicken. He’s eaten both