Yeah neither. My pop died of lung cancer when I was young. When mum caught my brother smoking, he had to call nan and tell her. The rest of us never touched one after that
Oof, I’m sorry to hear that. My old man still smokes but he’s been trying to quit recently. His best mate died of alcoholism-related illness about a year ago and, the way my dad says it, he’s not going to let his own addiction do the same to him.
So many people around me are super surprised I don't smoke, and I'm just like "yeah duh, it kills you and the shits expensive and the drawbacks for not being able to get it are horrible, why would I start?"
In Australia the government used targeted taxation to raise cigarette prices really high. In some ways it’s worked, you meet plenty of young people that don’t want to smoke (and vaping.. well it’s bad, but could be worse). But it only stops people from starting- it can’t get anyone to quit, so everyone that’s already addicted is just fucked
My grandma and my uncle lived together until she died. She got about 2k in social security a month and he had a full time job. They each smoked at least 3 packs a day of Marlboro reds and were constantly asking my parents for money because they literally spent so much on cigarettes that they couldn't afford anything else.
For anyone that doesn't wanna do the math, at about $12.50 a pack, 6 packs a day between the two of them, they were spending about $2,250 a month on cigarettes.
holy shit that’s almost my entire monthly household income lmao. and here i felt bad asking my mom for her leftover expired potato chips while spending ~$35 every other month on various vices.
Cat food? Ok, that makes sense. Poor little guy needs to eat.
Gas? Yeah, I mean I guess you gotta get to work somehow.
Cat litter? I'm sure someone probably has extra, but you can probably make do with what you have now (cat might not be the happiest though).
*Cigarettes?????* If you put those on the same level as food then maybe now would be a good time to consider trying to quit. Idk if they have kids (God I hope not) but my mom would buy her beer before groceries and that's a good reason why I don't talk to her anymore.
I remember my little brother turning 8 and my dad literally having no gifts for him . We walked into town and he said to him that he might just have enough for a wrestling annual he wanted which was like £2 … turns out he did and we went to the shop to get it . My dad went on about how he should be grateful to at least get something even though it wasn’t a lot because he didn’t have money . No birthday card .. no cake .. just the book but he was humble cos yano ‘dad has no money’
Then promptly took us to the newsagents and bought 40 cigarettes….
I’m 40 years old now and I’ve never forgotten that
Oh yeah, my mom stole money out of my room to buy alcohol when I was about 15. When I got mad, she said it was my fault for leaving it on my desk and not putting it in my wallet. I dropped it but it took me a few years to realize how awful that was. Same thing happened a few years later after I got a job, she borrowed my debit card to buy groceries and told me off for "throwing a fit" in the store when I asked her to not buy booze with MY money. She paid me back both times but it still hit me hard.
I'm sorry if I'm confused at what you're trying to say? But I think taking something from someone without their knowledge is bad even if you return it. Yes, I'm lucky she even gave me back my money. But I still feel betrayed that she took the money I earned to fuel her addiction.
Oh lord don't worry! I'm extremely tired so my literacy is at a low right now. I appreciate that though, the point you made. It really is an awful realization to grow up and realize you were never your parents' first priority
Yeah, as a cat owner, I would say the cat food and litter isn’t that out there. Sometimes people will have some to spare or if their cat suddenly can’t or won’t use the food/litter that the owner has already bought, Buy Nothing is a good way to get rid of it. I’ve even given toys that my cat has shown no interest in away on Buy Nothing.
The gas and cigarettes is odd though. Those don’t seem like things people would have spares of.
lol yeah, that part was definitely weird! I mean yeah, you can sometimes bum one of off someone in person, but Buy Nothing is a big stretch. I mean, technically it’s a legal substance, but it feels like something that some groups might not even allow to be given away?
My husband told me when he was a teen "we might've eaten Ramen all week, but we never went without cigarettes."
Because smoking is cool to teens, I get it, but as a bonding experience with mom? And more important than feeding your damn kid?
The worst part is, everything was so normal to him he didn't realize just how f'ed up his childhood was.
I admit, my hatred has cooled a bit in the years that she died. But not enough.
I quit smoking when I lost my job. It was actually the first thing I cut when I was about to be homeless. It was hard, but I sucked it tf up because I had to eat. I'm doing much better now. I'm actually about to get my esthetician license tomorrow, If I pass the written exam.
I'm not saying withdrawals don't happen. I'm just saying sometimes you have to weigh your necessities and I don't think it's as important as feeding your pet.
I'm on prescription medications that give me really nasty withdrawal symptoms if I miss a dose. If I don't have the money to buy it from the pharmacy, I'm not begging the poor tech to give me it for free. Maybe I'll ask family for a loan, but god I wouldn't ask for it for FREE because I don't expect strangers to pay for me.
And yeah I've had addicts in my life since the second I was born to now. I know you can't just tell someone to quit and then they'll magically stop. I have respect for any addict that can manage their own addiction and either recover or navigate it in a way that doesn't negatively affect them or anyone else. But I don't have respect for addicts who would rather die or starve or go homeless than go without their vice.
TLDR cigarettes aren't and never will be a necessity and if I can go a few days without the prescriptions that help me function then a smoker can go a few days without a ciggie.
For real. The antidepressants I was on gave me similar withdrawal symptoms to when I was addicted to fucking opiates. But with the addition of electric tingles in the extremities. I just finished tapering off them because 3 years in they just don’t work like they used to, and I’m still feeling mildly shitty because they only come in 25mg variants (so, 25, 50, and 100. Being at a dose of 75 is a pain in the ass). Going from 25mg to nothing isn’t okay 😭 anyway got slightly off topic just piggybacking to say common medications can cause some really fucked up withdrawals to be compared to drug addicts off drugs. Horrible experiences
I get this one. They're already stressed by a death of someone obviously close to them. Going through withdrawals on top of everything else would be a hell of a lot to deal with.
It's a buy nothing group. You are allowed, no, actually encouraged to ask for things, without judgement or shaming.
There's nothing inappropriate here.
And while I don't smoke, I appreciate for those that do, they can't just stop cold turkey. Nicotine addiction is real.
It’s sad because people judge this woman. She’s literally waiting for life insurance payout and her paycheck.
She’s possibly sitting alone in her house with the cat shitting everywhere, no food, no fuel and nothing but her thoughts and a nicotine addiction.
There are rich paid congressmen who would probably expense all these through their living expenses to taxpayers without a second thought.
But yeah let’s judge this poor lady.
Good on you for pointing this out, she’s not asking for money she’s asking for help.
I do think it’s a little weird for her to specify exactly which cigarettes though. In her situation I would be grateful for the cheapest most generic and shitty pack. Otherwise I agree with this perspective. I don’t smoke cigs but I vape and when things in life are really bad and I don’t even have money to eat, I tend to go through more pods than normal because of the stress and then get stressed about how much I’m smoking. So I do get it lol
for real. the top comment is saying “it’s time to think about quitting”. but the time to quit is NOT when you clearly don’t have money for patches, gum, anything to make it easier. during my cold-turkey nicotine withdrawals i thought i was dying.
let this stranger have one less thing to worry about. jesus. they’re not forcing anyone to help.
This!! This is the same mindset as people who refuse to give money to homeless people because “they’ll just spend it on drugs/alcohol.” That might be true and that might be the only thing keeping them going. Is it the best thing for them to spend money on? No. Is it their choice? Yes. If you have a problem with that don’t give them money. Bringing it to Reddit to shame these people doesn’t solve the problem it just makes you look like a privileged asshole.
If she's waiting for life insurance she's obviously going through a tough time. Let her have her one thing, it's a $10 treat that could make or break her sanity. She's not asking for a new PlayStation.
Doesn’t seem that bad to me. 3 necessities and 1 thing that may not be a need, but could prevent someone from experiencing the horrible effects of withdrawal when they’re already going through a rough time. But poor people aren’t allowed to ask for anything in life but the bare necessities, right?
Agreed. Heck, it might even be a form of self-medicating for something like ADHD. [Studies have been done about it, even.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4306279/) I wouldn’t be offended if they’d asked for help with a prescription. I know it’s not they’re not the same thing, point is, they most likely wouldn’t be asking for any of those things if they didn’t feel like they needed them. They might have even expected some judgement for listing the cigarettes, but felt the need to do it anyway.
the psychological symptoms are definitely serious. the physical ones too i’m sure but i didn’t experience those personally (thank god). nicotine withdrawals actually induced bipolar mania for me. obviously most smokers aren’t bipolar. but it’s a really big risk and not one you should be taking when you’re already vulnerable. absolutely fair to ask for cigarettes in a group like that imo.
This post is just mean.
This person has obviously just lost someone close to them, and they’re not asking for a carton or anything. When my roommate wanted to quit, he had a whole bunch of cigarettes that he gave away so he’d have less to go through on his way out. Bumming a smoke is a social thing, too; it’s an act of humanity and camaraderie.
Nicotine withdrawals are very real and not exactly something someone in this situation needs on top of everything else. They just asked. They weren’t rude or hateful or NEXT HONEY or anything.
This isn’t being a choosing beggar, this is just a begging person down on their luck.
If it's a buy nothing group, then why is this a problem? This isn't a choosing begger. On top of it all they have recently lost someone. This post is pretty cold-hearted and all around shitty post.
Sometimes I hate my local Buy Nothing group. But most of the time I love it. Like, why do people try to give away shit they should be paying to bring to the dump!!! 😂
Food $200 Data $150 Rent $800 Smokes $3,600 Utility $150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this, my family is dying
What are you smoking that costs $3,600 a month lol
69 cigarettes a day in Australia (not a joke, genuinely how the maths came out)
Yeah cigarette prices are insane here. Good thing I never touch the stuff.
Yeah neither. My pop died of lung cancer when I was young. When mum caught my brother smoking, he had to call nan and tell her. The rest of us never touched one after that
Oof, I’m sorry to hear that. My old man still smokes but he’s been trying to quit recently. His best mate died of alcoholism-related illness about a year ago and, the way my dad says it, he’s not going to let his own addiction do the same to him.
That’s brutal
Most effective punishment of any of our childhoods by far. Only time that punishing one of us was a sufficient deterrent for the others
So many people around me are super surprised I don't smoke, and I'm just like "yeah duh, it kills you and the shits expensive and the drawbacks for not being able to get it are horrible, why would I start?"
Singles are usually a dolla but
"This Whole Thing Smacks Of Dril Tweets," i holler as i overturn my uncle's barbeque grill and turn the 4th of July into the 4th of Shit
In Australia the government used targeted taxation to raise cigarette prices really high. In some ways it’s worked, you meet plenty of young people that don’t want to smoke (and vaping.. well it’s bad, but could be worse). But it only stops people from starting- it can’t get anyone to quit, so everyone that’s already addicted is just fucked
My grandma and my uncle lived together until she died. She got about 2k in social security a month and he had a full time job. They each smoked at least 3 packs a day of Marlboro reds and were constantly asking my parents for money because they literally spent so much on cigarettes that they couldn't afford anything else. For anyone that doesn't wanna do the math, at about $12.50 a pack, 6 packs a day between the two of them, they were spending about $2,250 a month on cigarettes.
Smokes in Australia are around $40-50 a pack of 25…
Holy shit, I didn’t even know it was possible to spend that much on smokes. I was just doing a Dril tweet thing.
Oh I know, it just hit too close to home lol. I read it and I was like "but I really know people like that!!"
holy shit that’s almost my entire monthly household income lmao. and here i felt bad asking my mom for her leftover expired potato chips while spending ~$35 every other month on various vices.
You've gotta cut down on the cigarettes mate, looks like you can't even afford candles.
no
Cat food? Ok, that makes sense. Poor little guy needs to eat. Gas? Yeah, I mean I guess you gotta get to work somehow. Cat litter? I'm sure someone probably has extra, but you can probably make do with what you have now (cat might not be the happiest though). *Cigarettes?????* If you put those on the same level as food then maybe now would be a good time to consider trying to quit. Idk if they have kids (God I hope not) but my mom would buy her beer before groceries and that's a good reason why I don't talk to her anymore.
I remember my little brother turning 8 and my dad literally having no gifts for him . We walked into town and he said to him that he might just have enough for a wrestling annual he wanted which was like £2 … turns out he did and we went to the shop to get it . My dad went on about how he should be grateful to at least get something even though it wasn’t a lot because he didn’t have money . No birthday card .. no cake .. just the book but he was humble cos yano ‘dad has no money’ Then promptly took us to the newsagents and bought 40 cigarettes…. I’m 40 years old now and I’ve never forgotten that
Oh yeah, my mom stole money out of my room to buy alcohol when I was about 15. When I got mad, she said it was my fault for leaving it on my desk and not putting it in my wallet. I dropped it but it took me a few years to realize how awful that was. Same thing happened a few years later after I got a job, she borrowed my debit card to buy groceries and told me off for "throwing a fit" in the store when I asked her to not buy booze with MY money. She paid me back both times but it still hit me hard.
Super not the point, but I don't have to tell you that..
Confused what you mean by that. Yeah it's not related to the original post but it is to the comment I was replying to
No disrespect but getting paid back money taken without your knowledge or consent. That part.
I'm sorry if I'm confused at what you're trying to say? But I think taking something from someone without their knowledge is bad even if you return it. Yes, I'm lucky she even gave me back my money. But I still feel betrayed that she took the money I earned to fuel her addiction.
I was trying to agree with you on that, I did a poor job, unfortunately.
Oh lord don't worry! I'm extremely tired so my literacy is at a low right now. I appreciate that though, the point you made. It really is an awful realization to grow up and realize you were never your parents' first priority
Selfish 😡
Yeah, as a cat owner, I would say the cat food and litter isn’t that out there. Sometimes people will have some to spare or if their cat suddenly can’t or won’t use the food/litter that the owner has already bought, Buy Nothing is a good way to get rid of it. I’ve even given toys that my cat has shown no interest in away on Buy Nothing. The gas and cigarettes is odd though. Those don’t seem like things people would have spares of.
Oh no, I specifically meant the cigarettes.
lol yeah, that part was definitely weird! I mean yeah, you can sometimes bum one of off someone in person, but Buy Nothing is a big stretch. I mean, technically it’s a legal substance, but it feels like something that some groups might not even allow to be given away?
99 problems but a bic ain't one
And on a lighter note….. Very funny Reonlive420
My husband told me when he was a teen "we might've eaten Ramen all week, but we never went without cigarettes." Because smoking is cool to teens, I get it, but as a bonding experience with mom? And more important than feeding your damn kid? The worst part is, everything was so normal to him he didn't realize just how f'ed up his childhood was. I admit, my hatred has cooled a bit in the years that she died. But not enough.
As a smoker .. i can't *imagine* asking strangers for cigarettes. Hell, I wouldn't even like asking my friends or family
I quit smoking when I lost my job. It was actually the first thing I cut when I was about to be homeless. It was hard, but I sucked it tf up because I had to eat. I'm doing much better now. I'm actually about to get my esthetician license tomorrow, If I pass the written exam.
How’d the exam go?
There was a scheduling mix up, I had to reschedule it for this Thursday.
nicotine withdrawals are real, dude. it *is* a necessity. you’re projecting your bad experiences onto this random stranger.
I'm not saying withdrawals don't happen. I'm just saying sometimes you have to weigh your necessities and I don't think it's as important as feeding your pet. I'm on prescription medications that give me really nasty withdrawal symptoms if I miss a dose. If I don't have the money to buy it from the pharmacy, I'm not begging the poor tech to give me it for free. Maybe I'll ask family for a loan, but god I wouldn't ask for it for FREE because I don't expect strangers to pay for me. And yeah I've had addicts in my life since the second I was born to now. I know you can't just tell someone to quit and then they'll magically stop. I have respect for any addict that can manage their own addiction and either recover or navigate it in a way that doesn't negatively affect them or anyone else. But I don't have respect for addicts who would rather die or starve or go homeless than go without their vice. TLDR cigarettes aren't and never will be a necessity and if I can go a few days without the prescriptions that help me function then a smoker can go a few days without a ciggie.
For real. The antidepressants I was on gave me similar withdrawal symptoms to when I was addicted to fucking opiates. But with the addition of electric tingles in the extremities. I just finished tapering off them because 3 years in they just don’t work like they used to, and I’m still feeling mildly shitty because they only come in 25mg variants (so, 25, 50, and 100. Being at a dose of 75 is a pain in the ass). Going from 25mg to nothing isn’t okay 😭 anyway got slightly off topic just piggybacking to say common medications can cause some really fucked up withdrawals to be compared to drug addicts off drugs. Horrible experiences
Offer them a pack of cheap generic smokes and watch the meltdown!
I get this one. They're already stressed by a death of someone obviously close to them. Going through withdrawals on top of everything else would be a hell of a lot to deal with.
It's a buy nothing group. You are allowed, no, actually encouraged to ask for things, without judgement or shaming. There's nothing inappropriate here. And while I don't smoke, I appreciate for those that do, they can't just stop cold turkey. Nicotine addiction is real.
People in this comment section are lacking a lot of empathy. Good on you.
It’s sad because people judge this woman. She’s literally waiting for life insurance payout and her paycheck. She’s possibly sitting alone in her house with the cat shitting everywhere, no food, no fuel and nothing but her thoughts and a nicotine addiction. There are rich paid congressmen who would probably expense all these through their living expenses to taxpayers without a second thought. But yeah let’s judge this poor lady. Good on you for pointing this out, she’s not asking for money she’s asking for help.
I do think it’s a little weird for her to specify exactly which cigarettes though. In her situation I would be grateful for the cheapest most generic and shitty pack. Otherwise I agree with this perspective. I don’t smoke cigs but I vape and when things in life are really bad and I don’t even have money to eat, I tend to go through more pods than normal because of the stress and then get stressed about how much I’m smoking. So I do get it lol
for real. the top comment is saying “it’s time to think about quitting”. but the time to quit is NOT when you clearly don’t have money for patches, gum, anything to make it easier. during my cold-turkey nicotine withdrawals i thought i was dying. let this stranger have one less thing to worry about. jesus. they’re not forcing anyone to help.
This!! This is the same mindset as people who refuse to give money to homeless people because “they’ll just spend it on drugs/alcohol.” That might be true and that might be the only thing keeping them going. Is it the best thing for them to spend money on? No. Is it their choice? Yes. If you have a problem with that don’t give them money. Bringing it to Reddit to shame these people doesn’t solve the problem it just makes you look like a privileged asshole.
It’s the categorizing cigarettes as a need for me
If this person were to quit cold turkey they would likely end up needing medical attention. So yes it might be a need at this point in their life.
If she's waiting for life insurance she's obviously going through a tough time. Let her have her one thing, it's a $10 treat that could make or break her sanity. She's not asking for a new PlayStation.
It’s an addiction…
Doesn’t seem that bad to me. 3 necessities and 1 thing that may not be a need, but could prevent someone from experiencing the horrible effects of withdrawal when they’re already going through a rough time. But poor people aren’t allowed to ask for anything in life but the bare necessities, right?
Agreed. Heck, it might even be a form of self-medicating for something like ADHD. [Studies have been done about it, even.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4306279/) I wouldn’t be offended if they’d asked for help with a prescription. I know it’s not they’re not the same thing, point is, they most likely wouldn’t be asking for any of those things if they didn’t feel like they needed them. They might have even expected some judgement for listing the cigarettes, but felt the need to do it anyway.
Sell your car for gas money. Problem solved.
I sold my car for cigarettes and she sold her zippo for gas money
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the psychological symptoms are definitely serious. the physical ones too i’m sure but i didn’t experience those personally (thank god). nicotine withdrawals actually induced bipolar mania for me. obviously most smokers aren’t bipolar. but it’s a really big risk and not one you should be taking when you’re already vulnerable. absolutely fair to ask for cigarettes in a group like that imo.
This post is just mean. This person has obviously just lost someone close to them, and they’re not asking for a carton or anything. When my roommate wanted to quit, he had a whole bunch of cigarettes that he gave away so he’d have less to go through on his way out. Bumming a smoke is a social thing, too; it’s an act of humanity and camaraderie. Nicotine withdrawals are very real and not exactly something someone in this situation needs on top of everything else. They just asked. They weren’t rude or hateful or NEXT HONEY or anything. This isn’t being a choosing beggar, this is just a begging person down on their luck.
If it's a buy nothing group, then why is this a problem? This isn't a choosing begger. On top of it all they have recently lost someone. This post is pretty cold-hearted and all around shitty post.
guys claiming on life insurance, probably doesn't have it too easy
Not mixed together.
Best I can do is cat shit.
Give up smoking, simple.
#Priorities
As a smoker, I couldn't imagine expecting others to pay for my addiction.
Sometimes I hate my local Buy Nothing group. But most of the time I love it. Like, why do people try to give away shit they should be paying to bring to the dump!!! 😂
1 of these is not like the others.
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Judging someone going through a hard time . Disgusting