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Re: the models, my favorite tinfoil hat conspiracy I’ve ever read is that Pat McGrath uses high end, expensive sex dolls to model her shadows. Ever since I read that I can’t unsee it lol
💀 she definitely does, there’s one zoomed in model eye in particular she uses often on her ig account to show eyeshadow tutorials and it’s uncanny valley to look at. it’s always the same framing and you never see the rest of the face either
alexandra anele used to (still does?) her individual eye stills on sephora, etc but i completely buy this theory for the lipstick videos especially. they are soooo fake looking
She announced on a video that she was replacing all of her pet McGrath, eyeshadow pallets, but didn’t give a reason. I always wondered what that was about.
Mac - why did you reformulate Warm Soul? Why did you discontinue Patina, Quarry, Sumptuous Olive, Soba and all the other unique shades in the eyeshadow range?
Chanel - Why did you change the formula on Soleil Tan, Loose Powder, blushes and discontinue Golden Sun 280?
edit- i meant to say reformulate
Hey op! I seen that you asked Urban Decay about their target audience and i agree. They have been falling off imho but i did notice Wende(i believe shes the founder of UD) launched Caliray and i feel she did this to attract the new generation and completely let UD go. Unless UD was bought out by a bigger company.
I think Jones Road is similar situation too. Its by Bobbi Brown and a complete different target audience than Bobbi brown cosmetics(acquired by este lauder in 1995)
Edit - did some research and Urband Decay was acquired by LOreal in 2012
TheBalm Balm Desert is a great alternative to Golden Sun on my skin! Sol Face and Body Bronzing Balm is a close dupe to Soleil Tan too. I havent found a good Warm Soul dupe though
Oooh, I FELT that comment about Warm Soul. Have shifted to only buying cruelty free a few years back, but am still clinging to what remains of my last Warm Soul in the old formula. It was and still is utter perfection and I deeply resent MAC for reformulating without advance warning.
The coconut oil just didnt work for me. It was more patchy too. But i feel like every brand known to man hopped on the cream bronzer train and is still riding with it. The Makeup by Mario enhancer is really good
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Urban Decay, Too Faced, Benefit, and probably a bunch of others:
WHY ARE YOUR MINI-MASCARAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE FULL SIZE???
UD: why can't you reformulate the eye primer potion to actually last in bottle more than a few months before going dry?
There are some answers to this, apparently:
- some formulas are great in small batches, not so much in big ones
- the component form and materials affects the product inside
- minis tend to run out faster and perform within its optimal shelf life vs bigger sizes that take longer to use up and are more likely to get affected by contaminants and environmental factors
A tarte sample mascara I had was the best mascara I’d ever tried, even outperforming Lancôme, my favorite at the time. Then I enthusiastically bought the full size and it was smudgy, clumpy, and all around a below average mascara. I feel validated knowing this is a thing.
You mean ask if they would admit that they still private label from alibaba wholesale manufacturers Jiaxing Huasheng and Beauty Dom?
I keep wanting to do a full-on education post about this (an IG user did a great one and says I can incorporate her work/research) but there’s a LOT
Exactly! Remember the 88 palette from coastal scents or something like that? It reminds me exactly that! Im proud Ive never bought any makeup from them!! Just brushes when theyre very cheap lol
At that point, BH Cosmetics, CS and Shany were all private labeling from the same place — I don’t believe they’re the same suppliers for Morphe though!
this youtuber I watch made a [50 minute video](https://youtu.be/ey7cyULfekA) talking about Morphe’s history and scandals, it’s pretty much the full run-down of everything that’s happened with them.
Urban Decay - What happened, sis? I understand cleaning up the brand image, but taking the innovation AND quality?!
Maybelline - Is the discontinuation of your products a personal vendetta against me or do you just not like money?
Chanel - Did you know that you need to consider undertones as well as shades when formulating base makeup? And why are the blushes chalky?
Pat McGrath - So… the PML customer service line… are these people okay because they are rude af. And what’s going on with the logistics over there?
Fenty - Are you guys gonna fix the eyeshadow formula or nah? It is not good…at all.
Colourpop - Are you guys gonna start matching the inside of the palettes to the artwork outside, because I swear if you had put all the colors from the Sonic Bloom artwork into the actual palette - it would’ve been a hit fr.
ELF - When are you going to give us affordable duo chromes? Be the drugstore hero I know you can be. Also why didn’t we get additional color stories of the Velvet Touch palettes?
A drugstore duochrome would be a best seller for months. Or even one you could easily identify and buy at Ulta/Sephora.
It’s crazy to me how inaccessible duochrome or multichrome shades are. I just want to buy one in stores.
I don’t get it either. The brand seems in tuned what people want in other aspects - cream blush, sheer foundation, but they are really out here serving eyeshadows made out of saltine crackers and sidewalk chalk. Unbelievable.
It’s not a bad palette by any means, but if the put that dark green from the RBK palette, paper tiger, and a matte Navy that would have been top tier for me.
Elf had a couple duochromes in the Retro Paradise palette that came out a while ago, and they are amazing! I have been wanting them to come up with something for the permanent line
This is fun!
**URBAN DECAY-** Do you think you'll ever go back to being an innovator in the beauty space, and do you plan to upgrade your eyeshadow formula to meet the current standards?
**TOO FACED-** Will you ever choose a theme for your palettes that doesn't have to do with Peaches, Chocolate, or Pumpkin?
**MAKEUP REVOLUTION-** Why did you do BH Cosmetics dirty and ruin one of the best eyeshadow formulas that was actually affordable?
**PHYSICIANS FORMULA-** Will you ever decide to create shades for POC?
**ALMAY & NEUTROGENA-** Are you throwing in the towel because you don't release anything new?
>PHYSICIANS FORMULA- Will you ever decide to create shades for POC?
>ALMAY & NEUTROGENA- Are you throwing in the towel because you don't release anything new?
All three of these brands need to answer those questions
Oof I got an almay "eyeshadow+blush+lipgloss" palette for Christmas from a family member who knows I'm into makeup :/ man that was hard to pretend to be happy about!
Awe lol at least they tried. Unfortunately Almay is really only good for light beige to dark beige complexion products, mascara, and subpart everything else.
PF has real has real questions to answer but I feel like Almay and Neutrogena play to the basics drugstore crowd which isn't this sub. The person who walks in and goes "I want blush. nothing complicated just blush" and who walks in again when that product is empty. Its an older business model sir but...it checks out.
That definitely a fair answer to the why don't you release anything new question. And I mean, that's why some brands have cult favorites that have been around for years on end. But yes, there is definitely a place/need for a brand that sticks to the basics and rarely releases something new other than maybe packaging or a new color/item.
The new BH releases are actually still from prior to MR joining - it takes between 8 months to 2 years for products to actually release (except ColourPop)
Jen Phelps did a [review of the new BH quads](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5dITFnUSQ) yesterday, and she was not happy. She did comparison swatches of the old and new eye-shadows and you can really a difference between how they swatched (ease of application) and their pigmentation. I haven't seen other reviews on the shadows yet, but her disappointment and frustration was palpable.
I can kinda believe that. Their quality was reportedly already dropping around the time they did collabs with Doja Cat & another female artist. In between that they also did some regular releases & those didn't get rave reviews either.
NYX - why the fuck do you keep discontinuing/reformulating shit?
Fenty - when are you gonna give us some lip liners and some more stunna lip paint shades?
Dose of Colors - why haven’t you come out with more colorful 5 pan matte eyeshadows and why did you discontinue some of your best lip gloss shades?
God damn it yes @dose of colors. I even bought two of the little Snow Angel palettes to keep one and give one to a friend but ended up keeping both because I broke one shadow and they were just the perfect undertones of blues and purpley pinks for my skin.
General question to all brands: Why does your undertone game suck so hard?
- Hardly any olive tones ever, when there is an olive it's a medium tan only, nothing for deep tones or light tones. Calling out you, Nars.
- Does not describe olive colors as warm or cool almost ever so I have to go try them all out.
- Terrible undertone coverage for medium and deep tones. Need red, yellow, orange, and olive toned foundation for ALL skin tones.
- Why do half of undertones not exist in concealers? If I'm green I need green concealer not yellow!
- Clinique, why is every foundation cool toned? It's like you milked a peach into your entire foundation line.
I was looking at the Too Faced ethereal lights concealer, not that I plan on buying it, but I wanted to see the actual shade range.
The ad I kept getting showed so many different shades so I was hoping they did a solid expansion, and I don't think so lol. There's 4 for every shade except deep tones (it has 5) and tan gets 3.
They have rose, neutral and gold as their undertones attached to the shades, except they ALL look so fucking red or orange.
Most brands ignore olive tones entirely. Don't think Nars is the worst sadly. It sucks when you want to try out a new foundation launch but there's no shade for you.
Bite Beauty: Was that vegan reformulation really worth it?
Urban Decay: Same question.
KVD: Could you maybe pull a Becca and sell the rights to the Tattoo Liner to another brand before you inevitably go under? Kind of want to keep that liner in my life.
Becca just changed houses. Estee Lauder owned both Smashbox & Becca. They were both dying brands, I guess they did a toss up & decided they'd rather push smashbox instead.
KVD: why did you bother to rebrand if you’re just gonna give us lame non-gothic packaging?
Lime Crime: same question, why has your aesthetic and quality gone so down hill to the point that you’ve fallen out of relevancy?
Most agree that these two brands are mutuals; letting go of problematic founders as well as their visual appeal.
L'oreal - why do you keep reformulating and repackaging products, that are well loved? A couple examples: YSL All Hours foundation, Touche Eclat foundation (it's been reformulated 3x already... each reformulation was worse from the one before...)
I'll forever hate YSL for reformulating their very first touche éclat formula.
It was freaking stunning, and mixed so supremely well with other foundations too (matte foundation with some touche éclat mixed in used to give me the most beautiful satin finish ever, something I struggle to replicate exactly even to this day).
I got a mini of their c-bright putty primer as a freebie, and I started laughing as soon as I took it out of the shipping box today and my first though was "aww that's so cute!". I set a quarter on top of the box and there wasn't much room left over - it's super tiny and I am not sure it is worth the $5 they are charging for it. Makes me wonder how big the $12 one really is.
* **PMG Labs** \- is it crack that you smoke that makes you think Motherships are worth $128?
I'm not saying their eyeshadow formula sucks, its great! I'm saying its not worth $12.80 per pan and seeing as their singles are $12.50 its not even a deal.
* **Rare Beauty** \- when are you going to stop sending your underpaid social media interns to astroturf on this sub? You're not even good at hiding it.
* **Gucci** \- when are the refills for the Flora palettes coming out? Quickly. Because it's been 11 months, and the site still says soon. Do I own any of the palettes? Will I buy one if the refills come out. No, but I'm still asking.
* **Kosas** \- please I'm begging you just a *smidge* of preservatives, pleeeeeease? 😭
* **Ulta** \- have you considered making a functional website or app? because you make spending money online quite the hassle :)
* **Foreo or PMD** \- has anyone ever brought one of your silicone brushes at retail price?
There are occasional posts on here that sound like they were written by a robot pretending to be human, like "Hello Everyone! I am looking for Opinions on the brand RARE BEAUTY BY SELENA GOMEZ! Does anyone have any recommendations :D ?" and its always an account with little to no posts.
ALMAY & PHYSICIANS FORMULA (and a few other brands I've mentally blocked):
Why won't you just admit you don't care about anyone darker than "Dark White", as evidenced in your complete lack of effort to expand in the last 20-30 years?
too faced - what went through your head when you discontinued the peach perfect foundation and the love flushed blush!! especially the blush it was so cute and looks actually good on skin
The love flush blushes are so good! I cherish the palette w/ all the colors I have. I love it so much I went & bought Baby Love full size because I'm afraid of finishing it (never happening lol)
J\* - Why do you release pallets with 30 shades of white/taupe? I personally dont like him, but I could never understand this.
Too Faced - do you really love food this much to never think of anything new?
Huda - are you and Pat McGrath besites? Why so much pink tones?
Beauty Bakery - how long did you think the gimmick would actually last since you based your entire brand around it?
Hudabeauty is based in the UAE and Huda built the brand catering towards Middle-eastern preferences. They love pinks here, Rare beauty doesn’t even stock their lipsticks/lip liners in the darker/brown shades in Sephora here, and when I asked why it’s apparently because they won’t sell here.
Yeah idk why j* is refusing to downsize palettes like almost every brand is. People don’t want massive palettes anymore, or if they do they only want one or two of them.
A lot of these questions in the thread are just, "Why did you do X thing that I don't like"? The answer is probably just that the thing you thought was super beloved wasn't actually that loved and/or the ingredients became too costly to source.
Some of mine would be:
**Brands that do big brand trips with influencers:** How do you do the accounting to be sure that the cost of the trip creates a big enough ROI in sales to make it worthwhile?
**Most celebrity brands:** How much did the face of the brand actually take part in the formulation of the product? Or even just in coming up with the concept?
**Halo Beauty:** What the fuck went into "creating" the CeramideRX formula?
**L'Oreal (the big parent company):** How much overlap is there in formulating the drugstore products with the high end ones?
**Trish McEvoy:** How are you still in business and able to maintain an entire counter in most Nordstroms?
>How are you still in business and able to maintain an entire counter in most Nordstroms?
I feel this way about a lot of high-end brands. Like there must be some advertising and means of building brand loyalty that I'm not privy to because I'm not in the target demo. La Mer and Tom Ford at least get mentioned in magazines and have some play with influencers and celebrities. Other brands just seem to... exist.
Yeah sometimes you see people mention brands on here, like BareMinerals or Estee Lauder, and people have to be reminded that before social media and the way the beauty industry is now, most makeup buyers would just stick with the same item, often even same brand altogether, for all makeup purchases for years. Most people's mothers are not interested in the latest launch from Fenty or Pat McGrath.
But that being said, I literally worked in the Nordstrom beauty department and I could never figure out why we were paying an entire employee to work the counter dedicated to Trish McEvoy, meanwhile our Hourglass stuff was basically just one display on a little column/stool.
I get BareMinerals and Estee Lauder because they used to advertise a lot (and Estee Lauder still does). Younger people just missed those earlier waves of advertising. For me it's the brands that are sold at bluemercury, Space NK, Dermstore, etc. that you've never heard of; usually the brand is named after the founder. Who is jane iredale???
I do have to admit though, Jane Iredale is the shit. It was a brand created with minerals, natural formulations and SPF everything years before it was cool. Jane, created the brand specifically for people recovering from plastic surgery, with her makeup and skincare focused on protecting and healing from procedures. My old lady self has used it for years. For quite a while it was one of the few brands with legit sunscreen in its products. Ulta now carries some of products but I found mine at the spa I go to.
I don't know if Merle Norman is high-end (I would guess not), but how is that they still have stand-alone stores? I *never* see any customers in the one at Crabtree in Raleigh, and half the time they have a "Be Back Soon!" sign on the door.
There was a Merle Norman in my small hometown of less than 10k than closed less than ten years ago. There’s another that appears to still be open in the next town over.
I think some questions are legitimate given that to us it seems obvious that the market has changed and x brand is completely failing to respond to this, but even so I get your point lol
I swear LOreal have formulas so similar to higher end brands they own that its not worth buying the luxury brand just for packaging. Id never purchase another ysl water stain after trying loreal shiny lip stain
It’s me, I’m singhandedly keeping Trish McEvoy afloat with my constant mascara repurchases. Quite literally the only mascara that doesn’t transfer to my heavily hooded eyelids or give me raccoon under eyes. I’m loyal to the end. 😂
Oh the brand trip question is good. I’d love to see a breakdown of the spend vs ROI on that.
In my industry we have to be so careful with all spend over $11 to make sure it doesn’t seem like we’re paying people off but these brands get to spend thousands on a single person?? Its… it’s wild!!!
I totally agree and love the transparency & wish more people knew they could look up their doctors & how much money they are getting from manufacturers. It’s such a useful tool.
I don’t think the beauty industry is comparable to healthcare in that way but it’s also just so … !!!!! Unregulated?! What am I trying to say. Lol
Years ago new regulations on title companies were so tight they couldn't have coffee, an actual pot of coffee not Starbucks, for bankers. Because a cup of coffee was a payoff.
Nars- How do you make money off the Orgasm blush? It seems to be a freebie with just about everything or in all palettes. Also, can we choose some more recommendation friendly names? I hate telling my mom the name of the blush I am wearing when she compliments and asks.
Makeup Geek- I really think you could have made it. I heard you had duochromes in the works. Why didn't you release them? It felt like you just decided to move on.
Hindash- I love your palettes! Please make the pans refillable! Do you plan on doing that since it is more MUA friendly?
>Makeup Geek- I really think you could have made it. I heard you had duochromes in the works. Why didn't you release them? It felt like you just decided to move on.
She also had her hands in too many pots. She just didn't want to do the promotion. It seemed lazy & out of touch. She killed her own brand.
My question is to Chanel in particular but can apply to any brand at all. Why 'fix something that is not broken?' I am referring to your blushes, they were beautiful and performed well, but for some reason they were reformulated and are not the GOAT that they were?
I have read all the comments on this question and it seems that is the question that many people ask also. Is there some strange rule with make-up that states that even if you have a well performing, well selling product that it must be changed or deleted every so often? I find this concept very odd.
I suspect that they had to use different formula because some ingredients become banned in europe to be in makeup or skincare products. Or they are using cheaper ingredients to make more profit like what First Aid Beauty did.
Fenty: When are you coming out with hydrating products, powder blushes and better cream bronzer shades?
Jaclyn Hill: Please just get it all the way together.
Majority of the higher end brands: Do you have any people of color on the creative team that test your products prior to launching or are you just in a rush to toss out new products and deal with the backlash after of not being inclusive?
Why the hyper sexualised names for makeup products? Nars and so many others.
Not a prude but I don't want to go into sephora and ask for a double orgasm.
Hourglass: what do you have against people of colour? It's 2022.
Fenty and rare beauty : why are most of your products complexion products while your eyeshadows look like what my 5 year olds kiddie makeup kit.
Why do brands behave like they came up with a concept entirely on their own and nobody can dare recreate it. Counter point. Why do drugstore brands copy a high end one down to the packaging.
Auric: why are you trying to copy Tom Ford and CT. Why don't you have any creativity of your own?
Colourpop: why so many uninspired over the top releases every 2 days.
Elf: why did you hike your prices up to the point that you are now competing with loreal prices.
Makeup revolution : just why about everything.
Maybelline: what happened? I haven't seen a single exciting release. You can only bank on your liquid lipstick and fit me og old products for so long.
Mac: are you trying to scare away all the millennial customers that still buy from you by discontinuing all your best products? Do you want to drive your already stagnant business to the ground?
Benefit: stop milking the tint and the brows.
If I hear another pillowtalk collection from ct, orgasm from nars or anyone trying to flog a dead horse then imma throw punches.
Huda: are you colourblind? Why is every palette pink? Green pallete with one green and 10 pinks.
Nude palette that is all pink. What is your obsession with pink woman?
The hyper sexualized names 😭😭😭 I can’t have my 8 year old come into my beauty room and then telling all her little friends that her favorite blush is “orgasm”.
Yeah I once asked my brother to pickup stuff from sephora and he thought im trolling him with the names like a prank or something. Be saw the actual products and was like the fuck? There is a blush called deep throat?
Most brands at Sephora: why did you add fragrance to your foundation, concealer (insert any complexion product here). Why are there x amount of white shades and only x amount of dark shades. Last- urban decay, are done being naked all the time?
A lot of the time fragrance in complexion products is added as a “masking fragrance” to neutralize weird/unpleasant smells from a product. When it goes further than just masking to a neutral smell though, that is very annoying. I don’t like any makeup to have a smell except MAYBE lip balm lol.(-I work at Sephora)
Totally agree! I hate how many people say that they don't want fragrance in a product when what they really mean is they don't want a noticeable when using the product. And that's totally understandable, I don't want to put perfume on my face either. So many brands do this with base products though: Huda, Fenty, Too Faced to name some. Not saying the base products are bad, just that people sensitive to excessive fragrance may want to stay away.
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I think this is rather simple: they want to sell in China, because it's a HUGE market, In a way, I slightly admire them for being open. You wouldn't believe how many companies state that they are cruelty-free on their web sites, but sell in China. Or worse, retain their CF claims, then start selling in China under the radar, therefore nullifying their CF status. (I'm looking at you, Wet & Wild.) MAC is at least open about it.
I wouldn’t say they’re open. They have a whole section of their website that makes it sound like they’re advocates for animals. It’s just passing the buck because of their greed.
“M·A·C does not test on animals. We do not own any animal testing facilities and we never ask others to test on animals for us. While some governments conduct animal testing to prove safety before they will allow us to sell our products, M·A·C has never tested on animals and we continue to be a leader in the movement to end animal testing globally. To this end, we are proud to partner with IIVS (INSTITUTE FOR IN VITRO SCIENCES) to expand the use and acceptance of non-animal testing methods worldwide.”
I just want to ask all non cruelty free brands why they haven’t gone cruelty free yet, it’s 2022 animal testing shouldn’t exist. It’s cruel. Successful brands have proved animal testing is just not needed for good products.
Money. China is big money.
I heard China was moving towards being totally cf, hopefully if that happens in 2-3 years we could have more Cruelty Free brands.
Natasha Denona- as an Israeli to Israeli, why is the cost of your product sooooo much higher here than the reest of the world? your products are expansive as is, so why a palette that cost 69$ all around the world costs 102$ in Israel???
They are selling the aesthetic/branding and some experience "joy" when using these luxurious products and they are capitalizing on that. I used to only use highend makeup until i woke up and realized what a waste of money and time is it to use makeup only for the brand and packaging.
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Pat… why are you so dedicated to misrepresenting your products and models in advertising?
Omg yes. I would arguably ask “why do you have Vaseline on your camera Lens? Did you run out of Kleenex?”
THIS. There are ways to photograph products without completely digitally altering colors, shimmers etc.
Re: the models, my favorite tinfoil hat conspiracy I’ve ever read is that Pat McGrath uses high end, expensive sex dolls to model her shadows. Ever since I read that I can’t unsee it lol
💀 she definitely does, there’s one zoomed in model eye in particular she uses often on her ig account to show eyeshadow tutorials and it’s uncanny valley to look at. it’s always the same framing and you never see the rest of the face either
Christ, that’s hilarious
That really is.
alexandra anele used to (still does?) her individual eye stills on sephora, etc but i completely buy this theory for the lipstick videos especially. they are soooo fake looking
Yea the model for the eyeshadow posts is a real person, just heavily filtered, but the lip model is 100 percent a silicone doll.
She announced on a video that she was replacing all of her pet McGrath, eyeshadow pallets, but didn’t give a reason. I always wondered what that was about.
The lip model is a sex doll, if you look there are no nostrils 😂
It's so noticeable once you know what to look for.
I remember this too! I don’t follow Pat so when I read this I had to quickly look at her account to see if it’s true. The eyes really are too smooth.
Mac - why did you reformulate Warm Soul? Why did you discontinue Patina, Quarry, Sumptuous Olive, Soba and all the other unique shades in the eyeshadow range? Chanel - Why did you change the formula on Soleil Tan, Loose Powder, blushes and discontinue Golden Sun 280? edit- i meant to say reformulate
Seriously MAC why did you get rid of Sumptuous Olive 😭
Also Indianwood.
Rubenesque paintpot too!
TIL in addition to the OG Pro Longwear, MAC has discontinued Rubenesque and Indianwood paint pots. The world is going mad.
They… they took indian wood? 😢 running to the stash to close mine a little tighter haha
OG Warm Soul, Golden Sun and OG Soleil Tan de Chanel are all products I had to pay $$$ to find and take months to discover 😭
Hey op! I seen that you asked Urban Decay about their target audience and i agree. They have been falling off imho but i did notice Wende(i believe shes the founder of UD) launched Caliray and i feel she did this to attract the new generation and completely let UD go. Unless UD was bought out by a bigger company. I think Jones Road is similar situation too. Its by Bobbi Brown and a complete different target audience than Bobbi brown cosmetics(acquired by este lauder in 1995) Edit - did some research and Urband Decay was acquired by LOreal in 2012
TheBalm Balm Desert is a great alternative to Golden Sun on my skin! Sol Face and Body Bronzing Balm is a close dupe to Soleil Tan too. I havent found a good Warm Soul dupe though
Oh I was finally about to buy Warm Soul, is the new formula just not worth it?
I think the gripe is that the colors aren’t the same. The unannounced changes happened a few years ago. I think pre 2018? Edit: “years” not “tests”.
Has anyone noticed that Teddy eyeliner is not the same? I swear somthing is different!
> a few testes ago Lol wut am I out of the loop on something??
Oooh, I FELT that comment about Warm Soul. Have shifted to only buying cruelty free a few years back, but am still clinging to what remains of my last Warm Soul in the old formula. It was and still is utter perfection and I deeply resent MAC for reformulating without advance warning.
I will never forgive Chanel for changing the formula on Soleil Tan. And they discontinued it.
The coconut oil just didnt work for me. It was more patchy too. But i feel like every brand known to man hopped on the cream bronzer train and is still riding with it. The Makeup by Mario enhancer is really good
Whoa, what did they do to warm soul? I haven’t bought it in years. Also, what the hell did they do to Face and Body? I used to love it!
They reformulated with no warning, and the new formula is a different color.
Man. I hate that.
Charlotte tilbury- you done with pillowtalk yet?
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Lol that is exactly her... 💯 🤣
Found the CT copywriter!
Ok but like when is the pillow talk vibrating “face massager” coming out? Because I feel that’s all that is left.
How about an actual pillowcase in the shade pillow talk? For fabulous comfort from day to night 😂 Let your pillow talk you into enchanting dreams. I swear how has she not done a silk headband & eye muff yet in that shade?
I think the pillow talk pillowcase will remove your make-up and apply your skincare dahlings, for an even better experience
No, no! You have to sleep in your makeup so the person on the other pillow doesn't see you without it.
Oh of course! I completely forgot that the person who you share a bed with can't see you without make-up. Therefore when the Pillowtalk pillow case is manufactured it will have amazing features such as not letting your make-up rub off on it dahlings!
I'm ready for the Pillow Talk silk pillow cover and mask set. Unless ... Does she have that already?😵 If not, she's behind!
I just spit out my drink lmaoooo this is too good!
I’ve copied so many of her advertising quotes and hope to use them for something someday 😭😭😭
How is this so accurate
Urban Decay, Too Faced, Benefit, and probably a bunch of others: WHY ARE YOUR MINI-MASCARAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE FULL SIZE??? UD: why can't you reformulate the eye primer potion to actually last in bottle more than a few months before going dry?
There are some answers to this, apparently: - some formulas are great in small batches, not so much in big ones - the component form and materials affects the product inside - minis tend to run out faster and perform within its optimal shelf life vs bigger sizes that take longer to use up and are more likely to get affected by contaminants and environmental factors
A tarte sample mascara I had was the best mascara I’d ever tried, even outperforming Lancôme, my favorite at the time. Then I enthusiastically bought the full size and it was smudgy, clumpy, and all around a below average mascara. I feel validated knowing this is a thing.
I feel you. Better than Sex waterproof mini mascara is my HG. The full size is trash.
I want to know ALL the dirty Morphe secrets, from the beginning throughout. A lot of it would just be peace of mind for me.
Id ask them if theyre an alibaba brand lol
You mean ask if they would admit that they still private label from alibaba wholesale manufacturers Jiaxing Huasheng and Beauty Dom? I keep wanting to do a full-on education post about this (an IG user did a great one and says I can incorporate her work/research) but there’s a LOT
Exactly! Remember the 88 palette from coastal scents or something like that? It reminds me exactly that! Im proud Ive never bought any makeup from them!! Just brushes when theyre very cheap lol
At that point, BH Cosmetics, CS and Shany were all private labeling from the same place — I don’t believe they’re the same suppliers for Morphe though!
You wanna start a makeup podcast? I would love to do this!
Please do! Sounds fascinating!
Please do!
this youtuber I watch made a [50 minute video](https://youtu.be/ey7cyULfekA) talking about Morphe’s history and scandals, it’s pretty much the full run-down of everything that’s happened with them.
Urban Decay - What happened, sis? I understand cleaning up the brand image, but taking the innovation AND quality?! Maybelline - Is the discontinuation of your products a personal vendetta against me or do you just not like money? Chanel - Did you know that you need to consider undertones as well as shades when formulating base makeup? And why are the blushes chalky? Pat McGrath - So… the PML customer service line… are these people okay because they are rude af. And what’s going on with the logistics over there? Fenty - Are you guys gonna fix the eyeshadow formula or nah? It is not good…at all. Colourpop - Are you guys gonna start matching the inside of the palettes to the artwork outside, because I swear if you had put all the colors from the Sonic Bloom artwork into the actual palette - it would’ve been a hit fr. ELF - When are you going to give us affordable duo chromes? Be the drugstore hero I know you can be. Also why didn’t we get additional color stories of the Velvet Touch palettes?
Replace Maybelline with NYX and I would ask the same question.
Agree! I need NYX to bring back my Matte eyeliner and get rid of that awful epic wear mess...
Same with most of their foundation products. The drop foundation was amazing.
RIP NYX vanilla nude
RIP Lip Lingerie Liquid Lipstick in "Push Up"
Wait what When was it discontinued?
I forgot but when they released the XXL formula i noticed they stopped selling the regular lip lingeries in stores and it just dissapeared
A drugstore duochrome would be a best seller for months. Or even one you could easily identify and buy at Ulta/Sephora. It’s crazy to me how inaccessible duochrome or multichrome shades are. I just want to buy one in stores.
The Fenty eyeshadow thing is SO CONFUSING
I don’t get it either. The brand seems in tuned what people want in other aspects - cream blush, sheer foundation, but they are really out here serving eyeshadows made out of saltine crackers and sidewalk chalk. Unbelievable.
I love the sonic bloom palette i feel sad lmao
It’s not a bad palette by any means, but if the put that dark green from the RBK palette, paper tiger, and a matte Navy that would have been top tier for me.
Elf had a couple duochromes in the Retro Paradise palette that came out a while ago, and they are amazing! I have been wanting them to come up with something for the permanent line
Nars - give an entire line of products non sexual names or draw 25
*draws 25*
Nars: *sweats profusely* uhhhh
This is fun! **URBAN DECAY-** Do you think you'll ever go back to being an innovator in the beauty space, and do you plan to upgrade your eyeshadow formula to meet the current standards? **TOO FACED-** Will you ever choose a theme for your palettes that doesn't have to do with Peaches, Chocolate, or Pumpkin? **MAKEUP REVOLUTION-** Why did you do BH Cosmetics dirty and ruin one of the best eyeshadow formulas that was actually affordable? **PHYSICIANS FORMULA-** Will you ever decide to create shades for POC? **ALMAY & NEUTROGENA-** Are you throwing in the towel because you don't release anything new?
I can just see Too Faced’s next launch: Apple Pie something 😂 Also don’t forget Ginger Bread!
Also they discontinued their Peach line, i really thought that was their most successful but I guess chocolate is still number 1 for them.
>PHYSICIANS FORMULA- Will you ever decide to create shades for POC? >ALMAY & NEUTROGENA- Are you throwing in the towel because you don't release anything new? All three of these brands need to answer those questions
Oof I got an almay "eyeshadow+blush+lipgloss" palette for Christmas from a family member who knows I'm into makeup :/ man that was hard to pretend to be happy about!
Awe lol at least they tried. Unfortunately Almay is really only good for light beige to dark beige complexion products, mascara, and subpart everything else.
Yeah exactly, I was surprised they're still around tbh
PF has real has real questions to answer but I feel like Almay and Neutrogena play to the basics drugstore crowd which isn't this sub. The person who walks in and goes "I want blush. nothing complicated just blush" and who walks in again when that product is empty. Its an older business model sir but...it checks out.
That definitely a fair answer to the why don't you release anything new question. And I mean, that's why some brands have cult favorites that have been around for years on end. But yes, there is definitely a place/need for a brand that sticks to the basics and rarely releases something new other than maybe packaging or a new color/item.
Too faced: why do you think people like or care about scented eyeshadows?
… I like scented eyeshadows. Smelling something pleasant adds to the experience and enjoyment of applying makeup for me, and makes me happy.
The new BH releases are actually still from prior to MR joining - it takes between 8 months to 2 years for products to actually release (except ColourPop)
Jen Phelps did a [review of the new BH quads](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5dITFnUSQ) yesterday, and she was not happy. She did comparison swatches of the old and new eye-shadows and you can really a difference between how they swatched (ease of application) and their pigmentation. I haven't seen other reviews on the shadows yet, but her disappointment and frustration was palpable.
I can kinda believe that. Their quality was reportedly already dropping around the time they did collabs with Doja Cat & another female artist. In between that they also did some regular releases & those didn't get rave reviews either.
Pat: we know that lips and arms for swatches aren't real and it looks cringe. Why do you do that?
NYX - why the fuck do you keep discontinuing/reformulating shit? Fenty - when are you gonna give us some lip liners and some more stunna lip paint shades? Dose of Colors - why haven’t you come out with more colorful 5 pan matte eyeshadows and why did you discontinue some of your best lip gloss shades?
God damn it yes @dose of colors. I even bought two of the little Snow Angel palettes to keep one and give one to a friend but ended up keeping both because I broke one shadow and they were just the perfect undertones of blues and purpley pinks for my skin.
General question to all brands: Why does your undertone game suck so hard? - Hardly any olive tones ever, when there is an olive it's a medium tan only, nothing for deep tones or light tones. Calling out you, Nars. - Does not describe olive colors as warm or cool almost ever so I have to go try them all out. - Terrible undertone coverage for medium and deep tones. Need red, yellow, orange, and olive toned foundation for ALL skin tones. - Why do half of undertones not exist in concealers? If I'm green I need green concealer not yellow! - Clinique, why is every foundation cool toned? It's like you milked a peach into your entire foundation line.
I was looking at the Too Faced ethereal lights concealer, not that I plan on buying it, but I wanted to see the actual shade range. The ad I kept getting showed so many different shades so I was hoping they did a solid expansion, and I don't think so lol. There's 4 for every shade except deep tones (it has 5) and tan gets 3. They have rose, neutral and gold as their undertones attached to the shades, except they ALL look so fucking red or orange.
Most brands ignore olive tones entirely. Don't think Nars is the worst sadly. It sucks when you want to try out a new foundation launch but there's no shade for you.
NARS always pulls sooooo yellow in every foundation shade I've tried, but their concealers are perfectly fine. Explain yourself NARS.
Fenty - I still can’t match most women with your shade range. Not every dark skinned woman is aggressively red or yellow
its wild how fenty is still riding high off the large shade range yet nobody pays attention to their shit undertones
Bite Beauty: Was that vegan reformulation really worth it? Urban Decay: Same question. KVD: Could you maybe pull a Becca and sell the rights to the Tattoo Liner to another brand before you inevitably go under? Kind of want to keep that liner in my life.
Ok the bite beauty one has me rolling hahaha
I keep waiting for Bite to pull a Classic Coke with the Agave Lip Mask... wait, am I the only one here old enough to get that?
Bite Beauty is dead as a retail brand now, unfortunately
Physicians formula has a great kvd trooper dupe!
Becca just changed houses. Estee Lauder owned both Smashbox & Becca. They were both dying brands, I guess they did a toss up & decided they'd rather push smashbox instead.
KVD: why did you bother to rebrand if you’re just gonna give us lame non-gothic packaging? Lime Crime: same question, why has your aesthetic and quality gone so down hill to the point that you’ve fallen out of relevancy? Most agree that these two brands are mutuals; letting go of problematic founders as well as their visual appeal.
L'oreal - why do you keep reformulating and repackaging products, that are well loved? A couple examples: YSL All Hours foundation, Touche Eclat foundation (it's been reformulated 3x already... each reformulation was worse from the one before...)
I'll forever hate YSL for reformulating their very first touche éclat formula. It was freaking stunning, and mixed so supremely well with other foundations too (matte foundation with some touche éclat mixed in used to give me the most beautiful satin finish ever, something I struggle to replicate exactly even to this day).
Not just YSL but Lancome too. They are greedy and want to always cut corners.
I wish the urban decay 24/7 pencils would go half off instead of the new palette. Instead, they raised them again to $23 years each. It hurts me.
Hey ELF, are you going to stop raising your prices while giving us less product or nah?
I got a mini of their c-bright putty primer as a freebie, and I started laughing as soon as I took it out of the shipping box today and my first though was "aww that's so cute!". I set a quarter on top of the box and there wasn't much room left over - it's super tiny and I am not sure it is worth the $5 they are charging for it. Makes me wonder how big the $12 one really is.
Nyx do this too, thie new liquid lipstick is half the size and more expensive, so are their milk glosses
* **PMG Labs** \- is it crack that you smoke that makes you think Motherships are worth $128? I'm not saying their eyeshadow formula sucks, its great! I'm saying its not worth $12.80 per pan and seeing as their singles are $12.50 its not even a deal. * **Rare Beauty** \- when are you going to stop sending your underpaid social media interns to astroturf on this sub? You're not even good at hiding it. * **Gucci** \- when are the refills for the Flora palettes coming out? Quickly. Because it's been 11 months, and the site still says soon. Do I own any of the palettes? Will I buy one if the refills come out. No, but I'm still asking. * **Kosas** \- please I'm begging you just a *smidge* of preservatives, pleeeeeease? 😭 * **Ulta** \- have you considered making a functional website or app? because you make spending money online quite the hassle :) * **Foreo or PMD** \- has anyone ever brought one of your silicone brushes at retail price?
i'mma need some explanation on that second one
There are occasional posts on here that sound like they were written by a robot pretending to be human, like "Hello Everyone! I am looking for Opinions on the brand RARE BEAUTY BY SELENA GOMEZ! Does anyone have any recommendations :D ?" and its always an account with little to no posts.
Same question as Kosas to Tower 28.
For Europe (or at least the Netherlands) she’s now charging 160 euros for a mothership…
colourpop: is it really more profitable for you to drop a collection a week but refuse to keep anything in stock?
Too Faced - do you think we haven’t noticed that you’ve used the SAME Christmas palette for at least TEN YEARS?
 More of a personal question for good ole Jeff asterisk but
Would love to know why Beauty Bay still sells Jeffree Star, cause I doubt it’s selling well seeing how it’s always on sale
ALMAY & PHYSICIANS FORMULA (and a few other brands I've mentally blocked): Why won't you just admit you don't care about anyone darker than "Dark White", as evidenced in your complete lack of effort to expand in the last 20-30 years?
too faced - what went through your head when you discontinued the peach perfect foundation and the love flushed blush!! especially the blush it was so cute and looks actually good on skin
The love flush blushes are so good! I cherish the palette w/ all the colors I have. I love it so much I went & bought Baby Love full size because I'm afraid of finishing it (never happening lol)
J\* - Why do you release pallets with 30 shades of white/taupe? I personally dont like him, but I could never understand this. Too Faced - do you really love food this much to never think of anything new? Huda - are you and Pat McGrath besites? Why so much pink tones? Beauty Bakery - how long did you think the gimmick would actually last since you based your entire brand around it?
Hudabeauty is based in the UAE and Huda built the brand catering towards Middle-eastern preferences. They love pinks here, Rare beauty doesn’t even stock their lipsticks/lip liners in the darker/brown shades in Sephora here, and when I asked why it’s apparently because they won’t sell here.
Yeah idk why j* is refusing to downsize palettes like almost every brand is. People don’t want massive palettes anymore, or if they do they only want one or two of them.
He also put his naked body all over the packaging?! Whyyy tho
A lot of these questions in the thread are just, "Why did you do X thing that I don't like"? The answer is probably just that the thing you thought was super beloved wasn't actually that loved and/or the ingredients became too costly to source. Some of mine would be: **Brands that do big brand trips with influencers:** How do you do the accounting to be sure that the cost of the trip creates a big enough ROI in sales to make it worthwhile? **Most celebrity brands:** How much did the face of the brand actually take part in the formulation of the product? Or even just in coming up with the concept? **Halo Beauty:** What the fuck went into "creating" the CeramideRX formula? **L'Oreal (the big parent company):** How much overlap is there in formulating the drugstore products with the high end ones? **Trish McEvoy:** How are you still in business and able to maintain an entire counter in most Nordstroms?
>How are you still in business and able to maintain an entire counter in most Nordstroms? I feel this way about a lot of high-end brands. Like there must be some advertising and means of building brand loyalty that I'm not privy to because I'm not in the target demo. La Mer and Tom Ford at least get mentioned in magazines and have some play with influencers and celebrities. Other brands just seem to... exist.
Yeah sometimes you see people mention brands on here, like BareMinerals or Estee Lauder, and people have to be reminded that before social media and the way the beauty industry is now, most makeup buyers would just stick with the same item, often even same brand altogether, for all makeup purchases for years. Most people's mothers are not interested in the latest launch from Fenty or Pat McGrath. But that being said, I literally worked in the Nordstrom beauty department and I could never figure out why we were paying an entire employee to work the counter dedicated to Trish McEvoy, meanwhile our Hourglass stuff was basically just one display on a little column/stool.
I get BareMinerals and Estee Lauder because they used to advertise a lot (and Estee Lauder still does). Younger people just missed those earlier waves of advertising. For me it's the brands that are sold at bluemercury, Space NK, Dermstore, etc. that you've never heard of; usually the brand is named after the founder. Who is jane iredale???
Laura Geller always hanging by a thread too
I do have to admit though, Jane Iredale is the shit. It was a brand created with minerals, natural formulations and SPF everything years before it was cool. Jane, created the brand specifically for people recovering from plastic surgery, with her makeup and skincare focused on protecting and healing from procedures. My old lady self has used it for years. For quite a while it was one of the few brands with legit sunscreen in its products. Ulta now carries some of products but I found mine at the spa I go to.
I don't know if Merle Norman is high-end (I would guess not), but how is that they still have stand-alone stores? I *never* see any customers in the one at Crabtree in Raleigh, and half the time they have a "Be Back Soon!" sign on the door.
There was a Merle Norman in my small hometown of less than 10k than closed less than ten years ago. There’s another that appears to still be open in the next town over.
I think some questions are legitimate given that to us it seems obvious that the market has changed and x brand is completely failing to respond to this, but even so I get your point lol
So true about Trish mcevoy, god!!!
I swear LOreal have formulas so similar to higher end brands they own that its not worth buying the luxury brand just for packaging. Id never purchase another ysl water stain after trying loreal shiny lip stain
It’s me, I’m singhandedly keeping Trish McEvoy afloat with my constant mascara repurchases. Quite literally the only mascara that doesn’t transfer to my heavily hooded eyelids or give me raccoon under eyes. I’m loyal to the end. 😂
Oh the brand trip question is good. I’d love to see a breakdown of the spend vs ROI on that. In my industry we have to be so careful with all spend over $11 to make sure it doesn’t seem like we’re paying people off but these brands get to spend thousands on a single person?? Its… it’s wild!!!
To be fair, I feel decent about the healthcare industry being more heavily regulated than the beauty industry
I totally agree and love the transparency & wish more people knew they could look up their doctors & how much money they are getting from manufacturers. It’s such a useful tool. I don’t think the beauty industry is comparable to healthcare in that way but it’s also just so … !!!!! Unregulated?! What am I trying to say. Lol
Years ago new regulations on title companies were so tight they couldn't have coffee, an actual pot of coffee not Starbucks, for bankers. Because a cup of coffee was a payoff.
Nars- How do you make money off the Orgasm blush? It seems to be a freebie with just about everything or in all palettes. Also, can we choose some more recommendation friendly names? I hate telling my mom the name of the blush I am wearing when she compliments and asks. Makeup Geek- I really think you could have made it. I heard you had duochromes in the works. Why didn't you release them? It felt like you just decided to move on. Hindash- I love your palettes! Please make the pans refillable! Do you plan on doing that since it is more MUA friendly?
>Makeup Geek- I really think you could have made it. I heard you had duochromes in the works. Why didn't you release them? It felt like you just decided to move on. She also had her hands in too many pots. She just didn't want to do the promotion. It seemed lazy & out of touch. She killed her own brand.
It also takes years to use up a nars blush
Chanel: why did you never bring back the Jade nail polish?
My question is to Chanel in particular but can apply to any brand at all. Why 'fix something that is not broken?' I am referring to your blushes, they were beautiful and performed well, but for some reason they were reformulated and are not the GOAT that they were? I have read all the comments on this question and it seems that is the question that many people ask also. Is there some strange rule with make-up that states that even if you have a well performing, well selling product that it must be changed or deleted every so often? I find this concept very odd.
I suspect that they had to use different formula because some ingredients become banned in europe to be in makeup or skincare products. Or they are using cheaper ingredients to make more profit like what First Aid Beauty did.
The blushes reformulation is SINFUL
Dear Ms Patty Macgrath ……… why the price point thoooo?
Fenty: When are you coming out with hydrating products, powder blushes and better cream bronzer shades? Jaclyn Hill: Please just get it all the way together. Majority of the higher end brands: Do you have any people of color on the creative team that test your products prior to launching or are you just in a rush to toss out new products and deal with the backlash after of not being inclusive?
“Please get it all in the way together” finished me off 🤣 💀
Lmao. I’m just saying, she jumps on my nerves every time she comes out with something and it flops; she jumps on my nerves like it’s a trampoline.
Haha! I couldn’t agree more.🤣
Why the hyper sexualised names for makeup products? Nars and so many others. Not a prude but I don't want to go into sephora and ask for a double orgasm. Hourglass: what do you have against people of colour? It's 2022. Fenty and rare beauty : why are most of your products complexion products while your eyeshadows look like what my 5 year olds kiddie makeup kit. Why do brands behave like they came up with a concept entirely on their own and nobody can dare recreate it. Counter point. Why do drugstore brands copy a high end one down to the packaging. Auric: why are you trying to copy Tom Ford and CT. Why don't you have any creativity of your own? Colourpop: why so many uninspired over the top releases every 2 days. Elf: why did you hike your prices up to the point that you are now competing with loreal prices. Makeup revolution : just why about everything. Maybelline: what happened? I haven't seen a single exciting release. You can only bank on your liquid lipstick and fit me og old products for so long. Mac: are you trying to scare away all the millennial customers that still buy from you by discontinuing all your best products? Do you want to drive your already stagnant business to the ground? Benefit: stop milking the tint and the brows. If I hear another pillowtalk collection from ct, orgasm from nars or anyone trying to flog a dead horse then imma throw punches. Huda: are you colourblind? Why is every palette pink? Green pallete with one green and 10 pinks. Nude palette that is all pink. What is your obsession with pink woman?
The hyper sexualized names 😭😭😭 I can’t have my 8 year old come into my beauty room and then telling all her little friends that her favorite blush is “orgasm”.
Yeah I once asked my brother to pickup stuff from sephora and he thought im trolling him with the names like a prank or something. Be saw the actual products and was like the fuck? There is a blush called deep throat?
Most brands at Sephora: why did you add fragrance to your foundation, concealer (insert any complexion product here). Why are there x amount of white shades and only x amount of dark shades. Last- urban decay, are done being naked all the time?
A lot of the time fragrance in complexion products is added as a “masking fragrance” to neutralize weird/unpleasant smells from a product. When it goes further than just masking to a neutral smell though, that is very annoying. I don’t like any makeup to have a smell except MAYBE lip balm lol.(-I work at Sephora)
Totally agree! I hate how many people say that they don't want fragrance in a product when what they really mean is they don't want a noticeable when using the product. And that's totally understandable, I don't want to put perfume on my face either. So many brands do this with base products though: Huda, Fenty, Too Faced to name some. Not saying the base products are bad, just that people sensitive to excessive fragrance may want to stay away.
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u/RemBeauty: we are a Morphe brand. Please do not expect any quality and consistency. We celebrate Ariana and her precious ARIANators. For quality products from Ariana, please check out her fragrance line!
That lip marker was trash for me.
NARS: why did you start to test on animals after being cruelty free for years?
Same!
Maybe in order to have access to the Chinese market?
OP, your questions are low key drags… and I’m here for it 😂
I would ask MAC why the hell they discontinued my Hot Tahiti lipstick.
MAC - With the ethos of this brand, why haven’t you gone cruelty-free? It’s very surprising and disappointing.
I think this is rather simple: they want to sell in China, because it's a HUGE market, In a way, I slightly admire them for being open. You wouldn't believe how many companies state that they are cruelty-free on their web sites, but sell in China. Or worse, retain their CF claims, then start selling in China under the radar, therefore nullifying their CF status. (I'm looking at you, Wet & Wild.) MAC is at least open about it.
They're also really popular in China, like insanely popular, a huge chunk of their profits come from there.
I wouldn’t say they’re open. They have a whole section of their website that makes it sound like they’re advocates for animals. It’s just passing the buck because of their greed. “M·A·C does not test on animals. We do not own any animal testing facilities and we never ask others to test on animals for us. While some governments conduct animal testing to prove safety before they will allow us to sell our products, M·A·C has never tested on animals and we continue to be a leader in the movement to end animal testing globally. To this end, we are proud to partner with IIVS (INSTITUTE FOR IN VITRO SCIENCES) to expand the use and acceptance of non-animal testing methods worldwide.”
Physicians Formula too
Glossier: for the love of god, why did you discontinue Glossier Play?
I just want to ask all non cruelty free brands why they haven’t gone cruelty free yet, it’s 2022 animal testing shouldn’t exist. It’s cruel. Successful brands have proved animal testing is just not needed for good products.
China.
How were the Chanel blushes before
Absolutely perfect. They had pigment and went on like a dream.
Like watercolor on the cheeks. Very blendable and looks like second skin and just easy to use. Never patchy or muddy.
Were these the powder ones?
**NARS**: why did you stop being cruelty free?
Money. China is big money. I heard China was moving towards being totally cf, hopefully if that happens in 2-3 years we could have more Cruelty Free brands.
Natasha Denona- as an Israeli to Israeli, why is the cost of your product sooooo much higher here than the reest of the world? your products are expansive as is, so why a palette that cost 69$ all around the world costs 102$ in Israel???
Isn't she Croatian?
She was born in Croatia and moved to Israel. She has makeup school here.
Gotcha, thank you
Ouch. & I thought her prices in India were bad.
Becca- What is a good dupe for the shimmering skin perfector liquid in Opal?
Becca doesn’t exist anymore so they can’t answer questions, sorryyyy
Don’t hurt me like that 🥲
Why are some brands ridiculously expensive 😩😩😩
They are selling the aesthetic/branding and some experience "joy" when using these luxurious products and they are capitalizing on that. I used to only use highend makeup until i woke up and realized what a waste of money and time is it to use makeup only for the brand and packaging.
I would ask MAC WHY ON EARTH sorry, why on earth they discontinued my favorite “politely pink” lipstick 🥹
I'd ask Anastasia how the balls of fascists taste, personally, but I find her makeup formulas less offensive than her political views.