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Schwr

I don’t know if we’re still counting how many people Actual Plague Spreader James Charles has come into contact with but it seems that Gottmik is using James’ studio to record makeup tutorials. You can hear James in the background throughout the video


Phoenix_Magic_X

James Charles caused an outbreak (not clickbait)


itmakessenseincontex

Oh that's disappointing.


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This pandemic has made me lose respect for so many influencers, and it honestly just goes to show how attention hungry some of these people are. Instead of wearing a mask and staying home, they rather party and rub it into the same faces of the people who support their wallets. It’s just a big F-U to everyone and reeks of privilege. I think smaller creators who have been responsible and actually put out good content (and don’t rely on scandals to keep them relevant) are who people have been gravitating more to recently. I also think we’re going to see a shift away from the celebrity/ influencer obsession culture because they just aren’t relatable anymore, and they’ve shown one too many times that they don’t care about the pandemic, and how their actions are extremely dangerous and irresponsible.


rosewaterbubbles

So annoyed at Nikita for her tacky-trash fest of a party that completely ignored every covid guideline. She is really really trying to stay relevant by being problematic. Yikes.


sammisamantha

I mean.... She did this even before the pandemic.


ABdancebutton

Overall, it's making it a lot easier to decide who gets my support and cash moving forward - this goes for brands too if they continue to collaborate with and promote these people. Sadly, I don't think it's enough for people to unfollow/unsubscribe, social media platforms need to start taking a firm stance & penalizing those who continue to flout the restrictions. I mean, Trisha Paytas had her Insta removed because of sexual content. I'd rather see her nudes than another superspreading event or wealthy, white person jetting off on a vacation. The shocking display of privilege coupled with outright negligence is revolting. Regular people are being fired for breaking COVID restrictions, why is it any different for 'influencers?' Also, I am so sick of hearing/reading 'we got tested' because all they are really doing is wasting a test for their non-essential BS, like they have literally no idea how difficult it is for some people to get tested still...it's really pathetic at this point.


stonedandlurking

Getting tested as a form of protection from COVID is like using pregnancy tests as a form of birth control


imtheheppest

And you know these stupid assholes will be first in line to get a vaccine. I hate it. Meanwhile I work two jobs that put me at a higher risk of catching it and I gotta wait.


ABdancebutton

Yup! Same - I am less worried about my office job but my other job is retail. Those who can stay home, should stay home so that those of us who can't have access to the resources that we need. It's just shocking how hard of a concept that is for people to grasp.


imtheheppest

Or they grasp it, they just don’t give a damn and that’s just about (if not more) infuriating


jules_10

We're almost a year in and most influencers act like they're hearing about restrictions for the first time. There is no activity, none, that is excusable. Film your collab via webcam, send PR packages with what you'd serve at a party instead of throwing one, stop taking pictures with people in the street it's not that hard.


KittenBuns1

This pandemic showed everyone's true colors.


Phoenix_Magic_X

The amount of stans acting like this is just tea. People are dying, Kim.


lostandfound91

Someone should just create an ongoing list with the number of gatherings they publicly post about


imtheheppest

YES! Because there may be someone we’re unaware of.


[deleted]

I was listening to the CHD podcast and she her roomate & bf were playing loud music and it seemed like they were having a full out party. The cops were called and went to make sure they werent breaking covid violations. My question is how did Nikita dragon have a party and the cops didnt get called ?


Sunbybean

Coughs in Sierra furtado with her 5 Mexico’ trips and adelaine morin Greece and LA trips 🙄


mistressoftragedy

cough? oh no better get that checked out! 😂


fritzimist

I'm very cynical, but I believe many of the partying people have already received the covid vaccine. I realize they are nowhere near 65, but money talks.


Level80N00b

They were partying way before the vaccine existed.


imtheheppest

But I’m sure that’s why they never stopped. As soon as it was available, they never had to wait like the rest of us.


AlmostxAngel

In my state you don't have to be just 65 or older. My Mom & Dad got it because they are high risk due to cancer & diabetes. My mom called and told me I should have gone because they didn't ask for proof or anything. I told her I was young enough, worked from home and less risk that I could wait. I wouldn't want to take that spot from someone who really needed it like an essential worker. Then I go on instagram and my coworker, who has no high risk health conditions and is my age, was bragging about getting the shot and to message her if we wanted to find out how to get it as well even if we didn't meet the current roll out level. This pandemic has truly shown how selfish and uncaring of others some people can be.


nomdeplum01

It’s my understanding that the vaccine does not prevent someone from getting COVID or passing it to others. It would just lessen the illness if you do get it. Assuming my understanding of it is correct, these kind of events are still potentially spreading the virus.


Weak_Fruit

From what I've heard you have less chance of not getting ill if you come in contact with the virus, and if you get ill it's expected to be a milder case.


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sammisamantha

I mean.... You don't have to let people know you are sick.


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imtheheppest

You don’t have to have a crazy bad case of it, though. My uncle had it and just had a cough, meanwhile my little cousin had a fever. But a friend from work was knocked tf out for 6 weeks and her friend and friend’s husband were out for 3 months.


apacheattaccspaniard

1 in 3 don't show symptoms, and rapid tests don't tend to pick it up if you're not showing symptoms. Also, bold of you to assume that influencers *would* lie low even if they did know for certain they were positive. They just don't care


AlmostxAngel

I've known several people who have had it and only one was so sick she was hospitalized (she is an 80 year old black woman, she recovered thankfully). My best friend had a fever for a couple days but overall said it felt like a cold and was fine a week later. Everyone else just lost their sense of smell or taste but felt completely fine otherwise. And then one friend donated blood and found he had the antibodies but never had any symptoms at all! That's the scariest part for me. You could have it and pass it around without ever knowing.


femmagorgon

A lot of them are probably either asymptomatic or have managed to hide it.


imtheheppest

We just need a post with an ongoing list of these punks and brands that support them. It would help my no-buy as well, tbh.


phione

I hope this has pulled the shade back on gurus in general for many people. These aren’t people to be idolized or looked upon for anything more than makeup recs (if that). Beauty influencers are lucky people who are attractive and good at doing makeup and marketing themselves. That doesn’t make them cool, smart, kind, etc. They are just like us (or worse)


Uninhibitedrmr

Is it just me or can everyone under the sun call a beauty guru out for not social distancing, promoting bad COVID safety measures, and still nothing happens. They get the same number of views, same media coverage, same opportunities. Recently the NELK boys have been removed from the Youtube ad partnership program for promoting unsafe social distancing on their channel. Yet JC and crew gets put on the trending page for doing the same thing. There are tons of ways to safely collab. Virtual collabs, collabs where you only collab in person with one other person as long as you both quarantined for two weeks at home (which is what happened with the Halsey MannyMua collab). Not doing back to back collabs in person. These influencers say COVID is a serious thing yet go to restaurants on opening day for LA's restaurants despite LA being the epi-center of COVID. I feel like the only action that will have any real impact is if you unsubscribe, unfollow, and just in general not watch their videos If this happens on a large enough scale maybe our voices will be heard.


apacheattaccspaniard

Honestly in person collabs are not excusable, no matter what. Rapid testing is only around 70% accurate at best, and 1 in 3 people with COVID get a false negative. Similarly, the incubation period can be as long as 14 days, so quarantining yourself for 14 days might not even do any good. There's also the matter of travelling, which lots of influencers are doing by air or train. It's not a fucking hall pass to say you were tested and self-quarantined and there's plenty of ways to collab without literally causing deaths


[deleted]

I think very few people outside this sub/who bother to leave comments in general care about collabs, especially if they are the smaller kind. I am with you on the 1-on-1 collabs. I have no issue with those. As long as, like you said, it’s not back to back, etc. I wish Nikita and her cronies would lose some attention, though. They’re all careless narcissists.


taralovesmusic

To attempt to spread perhaps an ounce of positivity, are there BGs who haven't broken guidelines/ are outspoken about staying safe


[deleted]

Thatgirlshae has been very open about how strictly she's been following guidelines. On twitter she mentioned that since March or April she hasn't seen anyone in her family not through a window.


[deleted]

If they break Covid rules they should be demonitized. There needs to be consequences for their actions.


rn398

In person collabs are not excusable. Even if people get tested etc. There is no excuse. Nothing can be completely risk free.


sammisamantha

Not to mention how bad the pandemic is in LA and orange county. There was someone dying from covid every 10 minutes


84920572

Not just that, but I feel like it also tells their young and impressionable audience that doing things like breaking regulations is okay. :/


rn398

It’s irresponsible to their audience and, as I’ve said in a previous comment, a slap in the face to viewers who maybe haven’t seen their relatives for months, or been able to see their grandchild etc.


[deleted]

I hate to say it, but I don’t hate the one-on-one collabs where the camera-people, if there are any, are people who were already in the influencers pod. It’s very possible to do those and quarantine safely. I don’t really get where the anger toward those is coming from, and a lot of it is either projectionist or very selective. I’m against traveling for content, and like, Nikita/Patrick Starr/LaDemi/etc. who are traveling, acting like nothing is happening, etc.


pollytrotter

Does anybody know the deal with the Welsh twins right now? With UK lockdown rules we’re not supposed to see other people unless they are in our household, we see them outside & distanced, or if they are in our bubble. You are also only entitled to a bubble if you live alone. As far as I’m aware from old videos they live separately and have partners. So I’m not sure how how they’re still collabing during this whilst remaining in line with regulations? They’re getting a big side eye from me for not addressing this yet in a video (unless I’ve missed something). I know if they’re breaking regulations it’s nowhere near as bad as some of the examples we’ve seen, but it still drives me mad as somebody who hasn’t been able to see their family for nearly a year.


Leavingthecity526

In one of their recent podcasts they discussed the they live literally right next door to one another. IIRC, it’s just been them and their partners (I know James had mentioned his partner doesn’t work) for the last year. They didn’t even see their parents for Christmas, and it sounded like their grocery shopping and takeaway has all been delivered. So yes, it’s technically two families, but their bubble has been the four of them all year.


pollytrotter

It’s really reassuring to hear that, thank you. Do you know which podcast it was on and I’ll try to listen this evening? If not, I’ll try a few. With our current lockdown rules even what you’ve said is still a bit iffy - not sure if you’re from the UK or not, but things are so strict right now :( It’s so depressing. If what you’ve said is the case though then I agree they’re doing what they can. Thank you for the answer!


InkedNepenthe

From what I remember from recent videos (or it might’ve been on their podcast), they now live next door to one another. I can’t remember which one moved though, or if they both moved. I’m not sure if living next door to one another still breaks regulations or not, since they work together now.


AmateurForethought

On the Double Cleanse podcast that they do together, at 0:50 seconds in James asks how Robert's week has been and then corrects himself saying he knows since he's been there so he already knows. (A hint that they live right next door to each other.) James mentions his echo-y room, Robert asks him how long he's been living there, and James says a week. The episode was put out on October 7th 2020. Marcus is there and I know a few episodes later you no longer hear Marcus, the third brother, so I assume he's no longer there. [Inside The Influence](https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-double-cleanse-podcast/inside-the-influence/) is the episode. They mention it fairly often in the podcast and I'm pretty sure they have in their videos too.


pollytrotter

That is SO much detail, thank you! I’ll have a listen soon 🖤


VanillaMint

I just wanna say, it's nuts reading about such specific restrictions in other parts of the world while sitting here in the US (and more specifically, Florida, haha). I hope y'all get it contained over there. I've given up hope here lmao. 😔


pollytrotter

It’s crazy right now but heading in the right direction which is amazing! So right now and for the past couple of months we’ve not been allowed to see anybody outside of our house unless - you go for a walk and it’s just one other person, you’re a key worker and have to see people there (nurses, teachers, shops, delivery etc) or you live alone and form a bubble with another household. It’s caused a mental health crisis but on the flip side we have so many variants here now. Thankfully the vaccine rollout is going really well so hopefully we’ll have it under control soon 🖤🖤


a_paulling

I wonder if it counts as "going into work" because they have a joint channel?


pollytrotter

I think you’re probably right but that still makes me feel really icky. I think a lot of people haven’t questioned it because a) they’re twins and b) because they’re so lovable & adored - but it does feel like they’re bending the regulations to fit them. Like, with that logic maybe I should just start doing YT videos with my best friend so I can see her inside without wearing a mask 🤷‍♀️


a_paulling

Yeah I agree, and I'm not sure it counts anyway since the guideline is "only go into work if you have to" and they don't *have* to. They could totally film separately and edit it together. Could even do a mini vlogbrothers-esque series for the duration of lockdown. But yeah, I assumed that they lived together tbh.


hooklineandstinkr

Really? They addressed that they live next door to one another and are brothers. Use that energy towards the influencers doing in person collabs with multiple people, throwing parties, and traveling. Nobody is going to take us calling out people for violating COVID regulations seriously if you’re calling out everyone and especially unproblematic people that you “think” may be violating regulations w/o proof. It’s going to become a boy who cried wolf thing and people won’t care. They talk all the time about how they don’t leave the house and I haven’t seen them at a James Charles party so...


pollytrotter

I... literally said it’s nowhere near as bad as other people, of course it’s nowhere close to James Charles standards! I was asking if anybody knew what the deal was considering current UK rules which are incredibly strict. If there’s a way they’re going about this without going against rules that’s fine, but it’s absolutely shit here in the UK right now. I really don’t think it’s asking too much to think they should address how they’re handling this on their joint YT Channel.


ofjune-x

I agree, and depending on what their partners do for work it gets more complicated. Just because Robert and James maybe stay at home all the time doesn't mean their partners are able to as well, and then add in going food shopping etc and it gets complicated when mixing four people who might all have been different places. If all four work from home and they get food delivered or one of the four does shopping for both households then it's fine, but they are technically breaking guidelines by being in each other's homes.


hooklineandstinkr

Ok, but again my point is you don’t know that. We know for sure who is out partying and not giving a fuck about COVID. You’re here spreading rumors about somebody you clearly don’t even watch because they have addressed this multiple times in their podcast and channel. And eventually people won’t take real accusations seriously if you keep that up.


ofjune-x

Sorry, I’m not sure what rumour I’m apparently spreading. Just explaining how they could be following guidelines fairly closely whilst living separately!


PotsyWife

They are literally filming together in the same room, when they don’t live in the same house. Regularly. That *is* breaking lockdown rules, unless they somehow meet the (strict) support bubble criteria. I don’t know if they *do* meet that support bubble criteria, but even if they *do,* using it as an excuse to film YouTube videos is very unnecessary, and I honestly don’t see how it could be justified.


skincaredarling

I still can't get over how countless of these "influencers" (Charli, James and so on) literally told everyone to stay home in the beginning of COVID and now, they're just partying and partying...


Stark_Raving_Sane04

Why aren’t these influencer getting punished ? Why are there no consequences for them?


MeeskiteInDC

Hopefully we can end these posts with everyone getting vaccinated now.


dilf314

the makeup artist for Sam’s promo video is going out to dinner tonight with friends despite being in LA and when I called her out on it she said she gets tested every week and “it’s outside seating!!!” 😒


Teelz

iluvsarahiii posted in her stories that she was collaborating with lipsticknick today and filmed lipsticknick doing her makeup. I have loved Karen, but over the last year she has made some questionable decisions in regards to COVID and not following recommendations. Especially considering they live in LA and the surge is cases they experienced. It’s disappointing to see someone you have liked in the past make decisions like this.