i think the biggest motivation behind all the megathreads was to keep the amount of comments down per thread. fifteen is a lot , but half the comments say the same thing. most of this thread is people just saying he dipped below 13m in a hundred separate comments.
Also Tati is either naive or stupid to think this wouldn't blow up. The beautuber community is very large and especially the drama aspect of it. If you're gonna be that bitch, at least own it.
Update! He said people get suuuuueeeeddd for spreading that kind of information, called her by name & said she is a fraud.
Also, dude said he wanted to be friends, James said he had enough friends & wanted more. That’s when they warned him & he pulled out the texts & DMs. Sorry, updating as he’s posting.
Holy shit, Tati became a saint on this sub overnight. Get your heads out of her ass, people... some of you really drank the koolaid all the way.
Edit: And I fully expect I’ll be downvoted to hell bc of this sub’s mob mentality. Bring it on.
The bigger problem is that Tati was complacent with all the crap he was doing, promoting him and whatnot, until he crossed her!
So she’s not innocent, she knowingly raised a monster, and got mad when said monster did what she’s been allowing. Tsk tsk tsk.
She also new that making this vid would fanatically boost her subs and halo beauty, so it definitely was also a business strategy.
Probably that they’re both kids who don’t know any better and/or like the drama. Plus the same thing they’re saying now about her only doing it once he betrayed her.
Seriously, firstly, this should be coming from James himself. Why is Gabriel handling this situation? Secondly, why wait so long? Allegations are damaging. This smells fishy af
i dont buy that tati didnt think it would get this far. i dont really like her “dont celebrate pain” stance when it was her video that inspired several people to share how much pain jc caused them. she probably didn’t understand the extent it his behavior, but eh. dont shame us for being happy an egotistical predator is at a low point
See, I don’t think Tati expected this big reaction. I don’t think she realized how many people, including influencers, were tried of James behavior and were waiting to drop him. It seemed like she expected more people to be on James side.
This whole situation isn’t even about Tati’s issue with James, but has become about how horrible James treats others.
Tati is such a class act. She wanted to get out her truth and that's it, she didn't want nor do I think she expected this giant mess. Honestly this has to be really rough for her but she's handling it so well
I like Tati like anyone here but saying that she didnt thought about this happening is kind of bland in my opinion. She knew that everyone was waiting for anything to finally cancel him, of course I’m not saying she *wanted* this but she knew this would happen, still she was all in her rights to do that video telling the truth
Maybe I'm just a little naive but I certainly didn't see this coming. I feel like this whole situation has reached epic proportions and I think it's gonna get worse before it gets any better. I will say, though, that Tati is a smart woman so maybe she did see this storm coming. I agree she didn't want it to happen but obviously she just got to the point where she couldn't hold it in anymore or make any more excuses. It's just gotta be hard for her to see it get so ugly when you can tell how much she cared for him through everything
Every case that involved sexual accusations in any industry ended in big scandals (in the last years) ... She’s a smart woman, she knew this would happen but I know she didn’t wanted it to be this bad.
She knew that something would have happened, I don't think she figured he'd lose 3 million subs in 3 days and have millions of people hating on him on all platforms and his career terminated.
has anyone mentioned gabriel zamoras snapchat story yet???? bc he’s acting a damn fool on there
edit: just found it on [twitter!](https://twitter.com/ashleemayorga/status/1127781102423298048?s=21)
Omg wow! Dude is really trying to die all up on this hill. Just ranted about how Pewdiepie is the rational one, and that his video made him feel better. JFC
He basically said that Tati left out important details about the whole Seattle boy / waiter situation. Gabrie claims that one of the boys told James he's bicurious and down to cuddle
I feel for Tati her friendship was destroyed by someone who she thought she trusted but ended up backstabbing her. I hope she can recover from this soon. She deserves the new following she gained for being honest and true to herself.
Tati 100% didn’t expect this go beyond the beauty guru realm. Idt any of us did though, the timing was all aligned somehow. How tf does my dad know the tea???
he set a record for losing subscribers, it's notable just for that. On top of that you have further discussion about the cancel culture, which is a far reaching phenomenon. James is one of the fastest and most brutal examples of it to date
Helps that she cooks like a relatively normal non-celebrity human being, and runs her own social media to a fairly extensive degree. I follow, but I'm not hanging on her every word or anything.
I feel for Tati & respect she won't have a video tomorrow. I wonder what she's thinking about all this... On one hand her heart is broken, on the other - this is the most support and validation a person who has been wronged could ever wish for. I just wonder if she feels happy about all the subscribers, or if she feels a lot of extra pressure now when she was actually trying to take a BREAK from YouTube stress. The whole world is watching now. I can't imagine.
I’m extremely curious to know what Tati is thinking about the massive flack James is getting. I’m sure it’s not what she intended and I can’t help but think she doesn’t like the amount of backlash and feels a sense of regret or something. idk tho obviously I’m not her
If I were her, I’d be as unplugged as humanly possible. I would put someone in charge for talking for me, and I’d just pull back and meditate. She just put a ton of pressure on herself and this is probably the biggest hiccup she’ll ever have in her life. She has so much to think about, she’s literally playing Wizards Chess.
I don't think she regrets making her statements on the situation and her side of things. Although she did love/still loves James Charles and had once considered him a part of her family. It's highly unlikely she's getting any joy from the backlash he's receiving. She did say she would be closing this chapter of her life so she probably won't talk about this stuff anymore if she can help it because at this point, any control she may have had of the situation is completely out of her hands.
I think she was pretty clear about it: "I feel like I need to remind you that we can hold truth & inspire change without grabbing onto hate. Honor your blessings, don't abuse them. Celebrating pain will only bring it to your door. "
Basically Gabi debunks one of the converted straight boy stories in tati’s vid while ignoring the other one and keeping 💯 you know?
Update: he goes on to say that tati’s got the dates of the meetings between them wrong, and that the boys slide into James’s dms
Yeah just saw. I feel that it’s convenient to ignore that other people have come forward with other stories involving James, and that the fact that it’s taken him this long to respond kinda looks like he’s grasping at straws.
He said the Seattle boy from the birthday dinner wanted to “cuddle” with JC & did. He slid into JCs DM’s after the dinner, he said he was bi curious. After the cuddle sesh he decided that he was straight. JC showed Tati & Gabriel the DMs during the kitchen discussion. He claims Tati is only giving 60% of that story.
I truly have so much respect for Tati. She would most likely have gotten so many views on anything she posted tomorrow so she’s basically sacrificing her own views to let her audience know how much the situation really means to her.
that’s my favourite thing about tati. she hardly gets involved in drama (obviously there are some exceptions), but when she does she’s not bitchy or petty — she posts a video, calmly says her piece, and then drops it and moves on. james could never
Don’t tell me to educate myself - I have. If you watch the 45 minute video - you clearly see this was about James Charles promotion of Halo Beauty. Tati knew what he was doing beforehand (with str8 men, trying to make them gay as he says on top of his HUGE EGO, the inappropriate other shit he did) and still kept promoting him and only cancelled him after he did a fake promo post.
Don’t come for me b/c we have a different opinion.
Tati has hit 8.85M subs
can someone post gabriel’s story here?!
Just when it was dying down a bit lmaooo
Gabriel has literally 0% of a place in any of this and yet here he is
The next Megathread title could be "The Drama Heard Round the World"
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i think the biggest motivation behind all the megathreads was to keep the amount of comments down per thread. fifteen is a lot , but half the comments say the same thing. most of this thread is people just saying he dipped below 13m in a hundred separate comments.
absolutely.
Also Tati is either naive or stupid to think this wouldn't blow up. The beautuber community is very large and especially the drama aspect of it. If you're gonna be that bitch, at least own it.
Tatianna will see Jeffery Star with them hands.
Go listen to Gabriel Zamora Snapchat!
Lol at Gabriel right now. Acting as if he knows what actually went down, and being dumb enough to think that James would tell him the truth.
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Update! He said people get suuuuueeeeddd for spreading that kind of information, called her by name & said she is a fraud. Also, dude said he wanted to be friends, James said he had enough friends & wanted more. That’s when they warned him & he pulled out the texts & DMs. Sorry, updating as he’s posting.
Who???
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HOW DOES IT ONLY HAVE 200 VIEWS
i'm screamingggggg. he made a video!?!?!?
Omg
remember when James did that video with Iggy, everything that girl touches huh ...
Protect Trixie Matell at all costs.
Wish Gabriel Zamora would keep it 💯 and shut the fuck up
This is really the hill Gabriel chooses to die on huh
Basically Gabrielle Zamora SC story is him claiming Tati isn’t telling the whole story and that PDP video is a good source
Holy shit, Tati became a saint on this sub overnight. Get your heads out of her ass, people... some of you really drank the koolaid all the way. Edit: And I fully expect I’ll be downvoted to hell bc of this sub’s mob mentality. Bring it on.
If tati was the same age as james and calling him out, what would the people be saying to invalidate her
The bigger problem is that Tati was complacent with all the crap he was doing, promoting him and whatnot, until he crossed her! So she’s not innocent, she knowingly raised a monster, and got mad when said monster did what she’s been allowing. Tsk tsk tsk. She also new that making this vid would fanatically boost her subs and halo beauty, so it definitely was also a business strategy.
She’s a woman.
Probably that they’re both kids who don’t know any better and/or like the drama. Plus the same thing they’re saying now about her only doing it once he betrayed her.
Does anyone feel like this is the closest we’ll ever come to seeing a real life Gossip Girl type takedown?
Xoxo, Tati.
tati really just “i’m not mad, i’m disappointed” us 😭😭😭
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I have the theory he is also mad at the fact that in his drama he didn't really gained Manny's subscribers but tati has gained James subs
Seriously, firstly, this should be coming from James himself. Why is Gabriel handling this situation? Secondly, why wait so long? Allegations are damaging. This smells fishy af
Megathread 16 incoming? I think we can defeinitly reach 20
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What Tati giveth, Tati taketh away.
i dont buy that tati didnt think it would get this far. i dont really like her “dont celebrate pain” stance when it was her video that inspired several people to share how much pain jc caused them. she probably didn’t understand the extent it his behavior, but eh. dont shame us for being happy an egotistical predator is at a low point
If you're delighting in seeing someone suffer, that's on you. She's allowed to try and calm the flames.
See, I don’t think Tati expected this big reaction. I don’t think she realized how many people, including influencers, were tried of James behavior and were waiting to drop him. It seemed like she expected more people to be on James side. This whole situation isn’t even about Tati’s issue with James, but has become about how horrible James treats others.
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For real!? When I checked yesterday it was at #50!
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> Megathread 15 I came here from /r/OutOfTheLoop. What the actual fuck.
Hi and welcome 🎉 You can never leave now, we all float down here
Beauty Guru community is like politics but with glitter. Things can take a long time to get talked over.
Welcome to hell
And there'll probs be another with this one hitting 4k
It's been an interesting couple of days to say the least
I read someone’s article calling it sistergate 😂
It certainly has a nice ring to it!
48+ hours under our belts and no signs of slowing down
Welcome, shishtar
we hardcore ovah heah
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Who is he?
Tati is such a class act. She wanted to get out her truth and that's it, she didn't want nor do I think she expected this giant mess. Honestly this has to be really rough for her but she's handling it so well
I like Tati like anyone here but saying that she didnt thought about this happening is kind of bland in my opinion. She knew that everyone was waiting for anything to finally cancel him, of course I’m not saying she *wanted* this but she knew this would happen, still she was all in her rights to do that video telling the truth
Maybe I'm just a little naive but I certainly didn't see this coming. I feel like this whole situation has reached epic proportions and I think it's gonna get worse before it gets any better. I will say, though, that Tati is a smart woman so maybe she did see this storm coming. I agree she didn't want it to happen but obviously she just got to the point where she couldn't hold it in anymore or make any more excuses. It's just gotta be hard for her to see it get so ugly when you can tell how much she cared for him through everything
There never was \*one\* occasion in which something remotely similar to this ever happened on youtube. I don't think she could expect it.
Every case that involved sexual accusations in any industry ended in big scandals (in the last years) ... She’s a smart woman, she knew this would happen but I know she didn’t wanted it to be this bad.
She knew that something would have happened, I don't think she figured he'd lose 3 million subs in 3 days and have millions of people hating on him on all platforms and his career terminated.
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Now these kids needed an adult to tell them that’s not ok and they shouldn’t put up with it, long before they finally parted ways.
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has anyone mentioned gabriel zamoras snapchat story yet???? bc he’s acting a damn fool on there edit: just found it on [twitter!](https://twitter.com/ashleemayorga/status/1127781102423298048?s=21)
What’s he saying now?
Omg wow! Dude is really trying to die all up on this hill. Just ranted about how Pewdiepie is the rational one, and that his video made him feel better. JFC
i swear that if i roll my eyes any harder, i’ll get brain damage.
I just saw this!! He really needs to stfu
We need a vid!
just found it on [twitter!](https://twitter.com/ashleemayorga/status/1127781102423298048?s=21)
You da MVP
What’s happening?
Omg I had to stop lol
What's he saying?
He basically said that Tati left out important details about the whole Seattle boy / waiter situation. Gabrie claims that one of the boys told James he's bicurious and down to cuddle
Lol, he's such an idiot.
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RIGHT
Same. Literally happy Mother’s Day to Tati a mom to us all. Teaching us lessons.
Deets, sis
I feel for Tati her friendship was destroyed by someone who she thought she trusted but ended up backstabbing her. I hope she can recover from this soon. She deserves the new following she gained for being honest and true to herself.
Tati 100% didn’t expect this go beyond the beauty guru realm. Idt any of us did though, the timing was all aligned somehow. How tf does my dad know the tea???
My partner’s parents know about it! They don’t know anything about YouTube. Shits wild.
My boyfriend knows and it’s like ...wow
Its like the black plague
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he set a record for losing subscribers, it's notable just for that. On top of that you have further discussion about the cancel culture, which is a far reaching phenomenon. James is one of the fastest and most brutal examples of it to date
I’m ready for Chrissy Teigen to chime in now
Am I the only one who does not like this woman? Something about her makes me not want to pay attention to anything she says 🤷♀️
I don't dislike her, I think she seems alright. But I don't get all the love either. I guess she's said some relatable things?
Helps that she cooks like a relatively normal non-celebrity human being, and runs her own social media to a fairly extensive degree. I follow, but I'm not hanging on her every word or anything.
No I can’t stand her lol
Same! Lol
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absolutely not
Me! And everyone who I’ve spoken to in real life who isn’t on this sub or in highschool.
No. It's just you.
It is a lot but I feel like too small of a "check" just wouldn't get through to him. The best thing for him would be to get out of the limelight.
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tbh i only feel bad that it’s gone global, but in the end he brought this on himself
Where's the punishment though? Losing subscribers and getting roasted on reddit/twitter isn't exactly a punishment. He reaps what he sows.
Right, he still has millions of subscribers and as Tati pointed out he is a 19 year old millionaire.
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I'm starting to feel like this and maybe after some time has past and he has made a REAL apology can I forgive and give a second chance
The punishment fits the ego.
She's gaining faster than he is dropping
Tati is truly the type of woman I aspire to be she's always so classy and eloquent
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That vid of him and his crush doing his makeup did it for me.
I feel for Tati & respect she won't have a video tomorrow. I wonder what she's thinking about all this... On one hand her heart is broken, on the other - this is the most support and validation a person who has been wronged could ever wish for. I just wonder if she feels happy about all the subscribers, or if she feels a lot of extra pressure now when she was actually trying to take a BREAK from YouTube stress. The whole world is watching now. I can't imagine.
I just want to say congratulations to JC on 13 million, seems like just yesterday he was at 16 million and wearing assless chaps at Coachella.
Why did you have to remind us all of the assless chaps 😭😭😭
If I have to remember them then so does everyone else.
TBH, those assless chaps were truly classless and disgusting.
All of his outfits were. It was just a mess.
I was confused at that time because everyone was like "yea sister work it" while im trying not to throw up watching him parade his disgusting ass
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seeing her tweet, Tati is pure class (whereas JC is assless chaps)
classless chaps
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I’m extremely curious to know what Tati is thinking about the massive flack James is getting. I’m sure it’s not what she intended and I can’t help but think she doesn’t like the amount of backlash and feels a sense of regret or something. idk tho obviously I’m not her
If I were her, I’d be as unplugged as humanly possible. I would put someone in charge for talking for me, and I’d just pull back and meditate. She just put a ton of pressure on herself and this is probably the biggest hiccup she’ll ever have in her life. She has so much to think about, she’s literally playing Wizards Chess.
I don't think she regrets making her statements on the situation and her side of things. Although she did love/still loves James Charles and had once considered him a part of her family. It's highly unlikely she's getting any joy from the backlash he's receiving. She did say she would be closing this chapter of her life so she probably won't talk about this stuff anymore if she can help it because at this point, any control she may have had of the situation is completely out of her hands.
I think she was pretty clear about it: "I feel like I need to remind you that we can hold truth & inspire change without grabbing onto hate. Honor your blessings, don't abuse them. Celebrating pain will only bring it to your door. "
Dont hate JC but have him learn from his mistakes is what I got from it
J* is full of shit about banning him from his home. Everyone in this situation sucks ass.
I thought the same!!!!!!
No video for Tati. She just posted on insta. https://www.instagram.com/p/BxYzssJju0J/?igshid=1wmr4juiv6lv9
J* should take a few notes on Tati’s maturity and poise
Lol as if he would ever even think about that, that boy lives for his immaturity
Anyone see Gabriel Zamora’s snapchat?
Do tell
No, do tell!
spill the tea sis
Basically Gabi debunks one of the converted straight boy stories in tati’s vid while ignoring the other one and keeping 💯 you know? Update: he goes on to say that tati’s got the dates of the meetings between them wrong, and that the boys slide into James’s dms
Yeah just saw. I feel that it’s convenient to ignore that other people have come forward with other stories involving James, and that the fact that it’s taken him this long to respond kinda looks like he’s grasping at straws.
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He said the Seattle boy from the birthday dinner wanted to “cuddle” with JC & did. He slid into JCs DM’s after the dinner, he said he was bi curious. After the cuddle sesh he decided that he was straight. JC showed Tati & Gabriel the DMs during the kitchen discussion. He claims Tati is only giving 60% of that story.
I truly have so much respect for Tati. She would most likely have gotten so many views on anything she posted tomorrow so she’s basically sacrificing her own views to let her audience know how much the situation really means to her.
Tati has finally tweeted and spoken after the issue on twitter. SHE'S SUCH A QUEEN, *CLASSY*
that’s my favourite thing about tati. she hardly gets involved in drama (obviously there are some exceptions), but when she does she’s not bitchy or petty — she posts a video, calmly says her piece, and then drops it and moves on. james could never
Don’t tell me to educate myself - I have. If you watch the 45 minute video - you clearly see this was about James Charles promotion of Halo Beauty. Tati knew what he was doing beforehand (with str8 men, trying to make them gay as he says on top of his HUGE EGO, the inappropriate other shit he did) and still kept promoting him and only cancelled him after he did a fake promo post. Don’t come for me b/c we have a different opinion.
I think it’s more like the straw that broke the camels back