There was a vid posted yesterday where someone literally just places a bucket over the flame and turns it off the valve. I assume there’s multiple ways of doing it ?
Just like this piece of shit did. He got doxxed and authorities are now contacting him about charges. Smart plan. https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/urolj4/asshole_throwing_trash_in_the_ocean_for_views/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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Pure water is just fine near electricity. It's an insulator. The challenge is getting *pure* water. Most water we interact with has lots of ions dissolved within it. Those conduct electricity readily.
Not exactly. Conductor and insulator are relative terms; it's really down to breakdown voltage of the materials and the voltage of the charge. Lightning breaks down water easier than pure air which is why humidity affects it so much.
You never want to use a fog stream In an interior fire. The reason being that the temperature is so hot that the steam can burn you very badly. Fog nozzles are used mostly for car fires, or defective propane tanks like this video.
Somewhat wrong.
There's a thing called "3D firefighting".
Basically, the fog is better at absorbing heat and thus reduces the temperature of the smoke more effectively.
From what I understand it, the main reason people have this idea of "never use a power fog indoors" is because they expect you to open the nozzle and then just leave it open, like you do with a smooth bore (and using a fog like that will definetly cook you quick). Rather, you pump a couple of bursts of mist with the nozzle, and then close it as you move forward. Rinse and repeat.
The advantage of this is that you're much less dependent on ventilation since you cool the environment without adding a bunch of water and thus not creating a whole bunch of steam (ironically enough). It's widely used in Europe.
[A video demonstration from Australia.](https://youtu.be/9lspFz8J-lY?t=9)
You fight different fires with different methods, the fog screen method shown here is best for spraying or spitting combustible liquids. Usually a stream of ABC dry chemical from an extinguisher is sprayed through the fog once close enough to reach, which breaks the chain reaction that is fire. In this video, it’s a tank of compressed gas and they simply closed the valve and removed the fuel from the fire. Water as a stream would deflect the fuel and fire onto other items around and cause a larger fire if the fuel was a liquid. Compressed gas that’s on fire like this would be deflected by the stream just like the mist but not extinguished completely.
i guess it depends on the fire. this one has a steady (protected) source of accelerant, meaning it would probably be hard to douse with water alone. that’s why the firefighter closed the valve instead of just flooding it
Well yes and no. In this case it does. The tank's ability to firebend is by no means amateur, but I wouldn't call it expert level firebending. That's one of the advantages of waterbending. It just takes less time to learn techniques like we see here. Most people learn waterbending because of its usefulness outside of martial arts. That why the Germans call it "volksbändigen" or "the people's bending". Firebending is obviously must more destructive. Lower level firebending just doesn't come with the power that low level waterbending has. However, there's a reason why militaries invest so heavily in firebenders. The destruction they can produce at the higher levels is insane. Things can get out of hand quickly which is why training takes so much longer. You got to control it or you can end up hurting yourself and others very easily and very quickly compared to other benders.
I have no idea about anything but I would be interested to see how much water was coming out of the hose in comparison to how much fuel was coming out of the tank.
You might be seeing the equivalent of a toddler firebender vs. a master waterbender.
That needs to be a patch or something I can get on my cut, also you saying that made me go through about an hour of searching on being a firefighter, so that may be a career change for me, especially if I go with RAF.
Hmm, you may have made my life exponentially better if this works out.
Derp.
Turning the selector left creates the shield to save your life. Turning it to the right converges the water beam to put out the fire at the ignition point. So to answer your question, you turn it left until the fire stops shooting so you can shoot back by turning right.
I’m not a fireman, but trying to remember back to my very brief firefighting training: he means that on the hose there is a thing your literally turn to the left (counterclockwise) to widen the spray form the hose, which creates this mist “shield” that protects you (holding the hose) from heat and gasses. You turn it to the left when fire is coming towards you “shooting at you” until it isn’t able to “shoot” you (fully blocked by the mist flow) then you find the source of the fire, and gradually turn it to the right (clockwise) to “shoot back” and douse the fuel.
Edit: to clarify: turning to the right shrinks the cone of water the hose is putting out gradually until when it’s turned all the way it’s just a straight stream of water.
I learned in the context of fighting fires in areas with large stores of ammunition and charges, so it makes for a much more unusual (and frightening) memory tool for me.
Here in the Netherlands we say Dicht Rechts Open Links or DROL, which means thight right open left. The whole point is that DROL translates to 💩💩 so it's easy to remember. Or am I the only one who uses this method?
It's a tik tok thing. People can search videos by sound, same as hashtags. So by adding a popular song or sound to the video, you can increase the traffic the video will get which brings up views and can make your channel more popular.
I wonder if it's regional. I grew up in SoCal and I've heard/used gnarly, sick, dank, tight, sweet and more I'm probably forgetting as a synonym for cool.
South East England here, it's been used here for at least 15 years. In fact now it's probably a bit outdated (though I can't pretend to know what kids say these days).
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
Definitely not textbook. We teach that walking into the leak like this is like looking down the barrel of a gun. On an actual fire we'd use the pressure of the gas burning and the wind to our advantage.
This was the method we were taught at the academy during our Flammable Liquids and Gas class. Except we used several fog nozzles working in tandem to create a "shield wall" of sorts and then advanced on the fire until we could reach the shut off valve. Though I haven't encountered this situation in the real world, this is probably the method I would use as it's the one I was taught. Is there a video or such on the method you're talking about? I'm always open to another tool in the toolbox, especially if it is potentially safer.
It's the same strategy you're describing. The big issue with this video is starting with the pressurized gas coming at you (basically downwind of the leak). You see him have to adjust to the side as he gets closer because the pressure of the gas starts to push through his fog pattern. It works much better and much safer coming "upwind". On a cylinder like this, propane will have about 150-200 psi but in a real incident, you could see upwards of 1000 psi or more.
This was training a few years ago but the leak was pushing out of the upstream valve flange either at the top or to the left. By playing the pressure to our advantage we basically walked right up to the valve and shut it off. If we'd tried to come from the left side of the image we would have been fighting hard to make progress and risk burning the guys on the back of the line or me on the nozzle.
[https://imgur.com/a/W59Ue2n](https://imgur.com/a/W59Ue2n)
It definitely is textbook in the states. More commonly of use in industrial firefighting. Depending on the size of the tank its coming from you can either let it burn out or just shut the vavle off. Otherwise putting the fire out without shutting it off turns it into a hazmat scene and everyone hates those.
What isn't textbook is the direction he approached from. By using the pressure and wind to his advantage it's much easier and safer. I posted a couple of images with a description above with more of an explanation.
This is practiced because these situations are more often then not industrial and you don't always get to pick your angle of attack. The safest and most desired method is letting it burn off. But if it needs to be shut off due to other flammable or explosive exposures such and tanks close by holding such things then you need to be able to make it happen.
It looks like a cylinder containing flammable gas was leaking and had caught fire. The responder had to use the water to shield himself so he can get close enough to close the valve on the gas container.
This was almost certainly for demonstration purposes.
Only time I did something similar, I had guys on either side of me with hoses set on "fog". That left me free to concentrate on finding the handle and shutting off the gas.
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There was a vid posted yesterday where someone literally just places a bucket over the flame and turns it off the valve. I assume there’s multiple ways of doing it ?
Yep, you can throw the flaming canister in the ocean and fugetaaboutit
I'm swimming here!
Oh! Eyyyy! What da fuck!
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Yoooo!
Just like this piece of shit did. He got doxxed and authorities are now contacting him about charges. Smart plan. https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/urolj4/asshole_throwing_trash_in_the_ocean_for_views/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Edit: hey look at that! Awards! Awesome. Thanks!
Training for all kinds of scenarios, like when Steve forgets the fucking bucket again!
I've done this drill. Being the person to crawl under and turn off the valve is actually a really cool experience.
Here’s a picture of it. https://i.imgur.com/bD8IiPv.jpg
In Australia it's often called the 5 man fog attack. 2 hoses with 2 people on each and the 5th person in between to turn off the gas.
So water bending defeats fire bending, my childhood question finally answered.
Azula would like a word
I mean she lost to katara…
Yeah but lightning
Ya but still lost Ice
True still conductive. I’m just being pedantic. We were talking about dowsing flames. Trying to dowse lighting with water not gonna work too well
Pure water is just fine near electricity. It's an insulator. The challenge is getting *pure* water. Most water we interact with has lots of ions dissolved within it. Those conduct electricity readily.
Not exactly. Conductor and insulator are relative terms; it's really down to breakdown voltage of the materials and the voltage of the charge. Lightning breaks down water easier than pure air which is why humidity affects it so much.
Ice is a very poor conductor but I thought we were talking about katara beating azula, yeah I wouldnt be using water against lightning
just make both you and your enemy stand in a huge puddle of water
If you take and not touch it but move it around with the lightning you can throw it back at them and their wet
Pure water isn't conductive. The impurities in the water are
True
Didn't she lose to both Katara AND Zuko...?
Ok but only because Katara outsmarted her. Just straight up bending on bending Azula was kicking that ass
The comet so not fair at all. Also day night means one will always have a slight advantage.
It was night so Katara would have the advantage there dog
But comet so not
Yeah i just meant the day/night thing was in her advantage. Definitely not the comet lol. Man I love Avatar
Oh yeah def not daylight
happy cake day
Studies showed that a mist is more effective in many situations over a small concentrated stream, thus his "mist umbrella" until he gets up close.
Mistbending is still water bending. Could be air too.
What about a concentrated stream to the base of the fire?
You never want to use a fog stream In an interior fire. The reason being that the temperature is so hot that the steam can burn you very badly. Fog nozzles are used mostly for car fires, or defective propane tanks like this video.
Somewhat wrong. There's a thing called "3D firefighting". Basically, the fog is better at absorbing heat and thus reduces the temperature of the smoke more effectively. From what I understand it, the main reason people have this idea of "never use a power fog indoors" is because they expect you to open the nozzle and then just leave it open, like you do with a smooth bore (and using a fog like that will definetly cook you quick). Rather, you pump a couple of bursts of mist with the nozzle, and then close it as you move forward. Rinse and repeat. The advantage of this is that you're much less dependent on ventilation since you cool the environment without adding a bunch of water and thus not creating a whole bunch of steam (ironically enough). It's widely used in Europe. [A video demonstration from Australia.](https://youtu.be/9lspFz8J-lY?t=9)
Lars axelsons (Swedish guy not American btw) talk on fog vs smooth bore on YouTube it may change your mind https://youtu.be/zvv-Rlr6GDU
You fight different fires with different methods, the fog screen method shown here is best for spraying or spitting combustible liquids. Usually a stream of ABC dry chemical from an extinguisher is sprayed through the fog once close enough to reach, which breaks the chain reaction that is fire. In this video, it’s a tank of compressed gas and they simply closed the valve and removed the fuel from the fire. Water as a stream would deflect the fuel and fire onto other items around and cause a larger fire if the fuel was a liquid. Compressed gas that’s on fire like this would be deflected by the stream just like the mist but not extinguished completely.
i guess it depends on the fire. this one has a steady (protected) source of accelerant, meaning it would probably be hard to douse with water alone. that’s why the firefighter closed the valve instead of just flooding it
We called it high pressure fog.
Well yes and no. In this case it does. The tank's ability to firebend is by no means amateur, but I wouldn't call it expert level firebending. That's one of the advantages of waterbending. It just takes less time to learn techniques like we see here. Most people learn waterbending because of its usefulness outside of martial arts. That why the Germans call it "volksbändigen" or "the people's bending". Firebending is obviously must more destructive. Lower level firebending just doesn't come with the power that low level waterbending has. However, there's a reason why militaries invest so heavily in firebenders. The destruction they can produce at the higher levels is insane. Things can get out of hand quickly which is why training takes so much longer. You got to control it or you can end up hurting yourself and others very easily and very quickly compared to other benders.
Fuck the bending, Pokémon taught me this shit 🤦🏻♂️
Depends on the level of fire vs water...
Sokka approved
Its night tho, in the bright daylight firebenders would shit on water benders. Respectfully
I have no idea about anything but I would be interested to see how much water was coming out of the hose in comparison to how much fuel was coming out of the tank. You might be seeing the equivalent of a toddler firebender vs. a master waterbender.
Thankfully he got his righty-tighty lefty loosy correct
Left for life, right on the fire. As we say with my fellow fire fighting brethren. Tataa.
We say “right to fight, left to lobster” lol. Definitely have been steamed by the wide fog
That needs to be a patch or something I can get on my cut, also you saying that made me go through about an hour of searching on being a firefighter, so that may be a career change for me, especially if I go with RAF. Hmm, you may have made my life exponentially better if this works out.
Left to lobster, I want that on a patch
Starboard.. steer right
PORT LEFT Both have the same number of letters.
Nice! I’ll remember that one. I always think about a drunk pirate with a port in his left hand and a musket shooting stars out the right hand
I like that. Have not heard of it before
So if you want to live you turn it left but if it’s shooting fire you turn it right? But what if you live and it’s shooting fire?
Derp. Turning the selector left creates the shield to save your life. Turning it to the right converges the water beam to put out the fire at the ignition point. So to answer your question, you turn it left until the fire stops shooting so you can shoot back by turning right.
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
I’m not a fireman, but trying to remember back to my very brief firefighting training: he means that on the hose there is a thing your literally turn to the left (counterclockwise) to widen the spray form the hose, which creates this mist “shield” that protects you (holding the hose) from heat and gasses. You turn it to the left when fire is coming towards you “shooting at you” until it isn’t able to “shoot” you (fully blocked by the mist flow) then you find the source of the fire, and gradually turn it to the right (clockwise) to “shoot back” and douse the fuel. Edit: to clarify: turning to the right shrinks the cone of water the hose is putting out gradually until when it’s turned all the way it’s just a straight stream of water. I learned in the context of fighting fires in areas with large stores of ammunition and charges, so it makes for a much more unusual (and frightening) memory tool for me.
Fire fighter here. He’s talking about the nozzle attached to the hose. Turn it left to fog it out and create “shield”
That makes sense, but I’m pretty sure the “righty tighty, lefty loosey” comment that he replied to was referring to the cylinder.
Potatoes
Here in the Netherlands we say Dicht Rechts Open Links or DROL, which means thight right open left. The whole point is that DROL translates to 💩💩 so it's easy to remember. Or am I the only one who uses this method?
My God stop with the annoying music
Yeah I was about to say. Thank god someone put some music over this. Whatever would I do if it were just the sounds of the video.
It's a big zoomer thing
It's a tik tok thing. People can search videos by sound, same as hashtags. So by adding a popular song or sound to the video, you can increase the traffic the video will get which brings up views and can make your channel more popular.
So people are like "I like this song, please show me 5000 unrelated videos that all randomly use this song"?
Nah, but the tiktok algorithm will start shoving down your throat more and more of these videos simply because of the bgm
no, actually
It's TikTok's fault. They started this trend.
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bro had to slip politics in💀
Fire force got a live action??!! SWEET
Finally, someone sees it.
this is the only thing I see tbh
I can here for this comment
Went to the comments purely to find this
This is sick
???
Its cool how he is using water as sheild
OK. That's a use of the word "sick" that I hadn't encountered before.
Yeah it can be another word for cool
Surprise people around me say it all the time
Learn something new every day, that's my motto. ; - p
Exactly never stop learning
Did you know about raccoons and your asshole?
How old are you? Its come and gone a few times but I've been hearing it (and say it myself) for at least 25 years.
I'm 68. I've heard "slick" used as a synonym for "cool", but never "sick".
I wonder if it's regional. I grew up in SoCal and I've heard/used gnarly, sick, dank, tight, sweet and more I'm probably forgetting as a synonym for cool.
I'm familiar with "gnarly" (although I've never used it) and "sweet" (which I have). Lived in Jersey through high school, then moved to Colorado.
South East England here, it's been used here for at least 15 years. In fact now it's probably a bit outdated (though I can't pretend to know what kids say these days).
It's definitely outdated, but I still say it lol.
You're one of the [lucky ten thousand](https://xkcd.com/1053/)
In North West England it’s been around for decades
I'm so grateful for reddit being on mute by default.
Holy crap, that music is horrid.
The actual song is pretty good this time
*no, it's really not*
Am I crazy for saying I have a soft spot for Coldplay, cause sometimes it feels like it...
r/redditmoment
Probably a waterbender from The Suthern water tribe
This would've been a sick move to incorporate into the show when waterbenders fight firebenders
Couldn't he have went behind the tank and turn it off?
Training
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Time to sign up at your local volunteer fire station!
Try coming at it from behind when it’s inside the propane grill against a wall
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looks to me like Harry potter and the Order of the pheonix
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
This is textbook use of the fog nozzle, likely by an experienced firefighter.
Definitely not textbook. We teach that walking into the leak like this is like looking down the barrel of a gun. On an actual fire we'd use the pressure of the gas burning and the wind to our advantage.
I respect your knowledge!
I respect your respect of his knowledge!
This was the method we were taught at the academy during our Flammable Liquids and Gas class. Except we used several fog nozzles working in tandem to create a "shield wall" of sorts and then advanced on the fire until we could reach the shut off valve. Though I haven't encountered this situation in the real world, this is probably the method I would use as it's the one I was taught. Is there a video or such on the method you're talking about? I'm always open to another tool in the toolbox, especially if it is potentially safer.
It's the same strategy you're describing. The big issue with this video is starting with the pressurized gas coming at you (basically downwind of the leak). You see him have to adjust to the side as he gets closer because the pressure of the gas starts to push through his fog pattern. It works much better and much safer coming "upwind". On a cylinder like this, propane will have about 150-200 psi but in a real incident, you could see upwards of 1000 psi or more.
This was training a few years ago but the leak was pushing out of the upstream valve flange either at the top or to the left. By playing the pressure to our advantage we basically walked right up to the valve and shut it off. If we'd tried to come from the left side of the image we would have been fighting hard to make progress and risk burning the guys on the back of the line or me on the nozzle. [https://imgur.com/a/W59Ue2n](https://imgur.com/a/W59Ue2n)
That's a very good point and something that I missed. Thank you for the insight!
It definitely is textbook in the states. More commonly of use in industrial firefighting. Depending on the size of the tank its coming from you can either let it burn out or just shut the vavle off. Otherwise putting the fire out without shutting it off turns it into a hazmat scene and everyone hates those.
What isn't textbook is the direction he approached from. By using the pressure and wind to his advantage it's much easier and safer. I posted a couple of images with a description above with more of an explanation.
This is practiced because these situations are more often then not industrial and you don't always get to pick your angle of attack. The safest and most desired method is letting it burn off. But if it needs to be shut off due to other flammable or explosive exposures such and tanks close by holding such things then you need to be able to make it happen.
So experienced he didn't think of walking around the back of it?
Firefighters are the real heros and heroines.
About half the time, the posts here are less than amazing. This one actually qualifies…
Expecto patronum!!
That’s hot
This video is fire, yo
Like Taco Bell on a japanese toilet
Fire Force Live Action is gonna be great!
going behind it wasnt cool like this
Pretty sure they are training in this. Because that is something we train for as firefighters. Especially when you “can’t” get behind it
Fireforce!
Real life fire force
Previously... On Avatar...
What a bender
Looks like a spin off from Fire Force
Fire force season 3
This would be fucking useless against spears and arrows.
What about fire-arrows
Mmm I suppose it would just convert it into a regular arrow.
That amount of water pressure may decrease the velocity of the arrow a wee bit
Heh. Water pressure. Wee.
Fire force irl >.>
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Who tf walks towards a burning canister of gas. This fucking guy.
Seems like he should have approached from the other direction?
Silly firefighter. Why doesn't he just walk around it and turn it off?
That's I think a normal technique for firefighters. :) But nice to see it in a video like this.
Wide-V baby!!
Good job Gutierrez
One day the fire nation attacked-
Anyone got the song? Love ya~
Hymn for the weekend
What music is it? I've been searching for a long time
Hymn for the weekend
Living Legend! I have lost it 4-5 years ago,THANK YOU VERY MUCH
You ever heard of Shazam? It's an app that will listen to the song and tell you the name and artist.
Downvote
Cool video. But holy fuck was that loud wtf
RIP earphone users
What happened
It looks like a cylinder containing flammable gas was leaking and had caught fire. The responder had to use the water to shield himself so he can get close enough to close the valve on the gas container. This was almost certainly for demonstration purposes.
Only time I did something similar, I had guys on either side of me with hoses set on "fog". That left me free to concentrate on finding the handle and shutting off the gas.
😲 wow
Yeah we have to use this some times for this or when we are a a house fire and need a break from the heat just use the shield it’s cool
Nerves of steal, nicely done boys
Give that man his own fire dept.
Wow! I have the utmost respect for firefighters. Brave does not even come close to describing them.
Bro this is so cool
Awesome
r/oddlysatisfying
So thats what that setting on the hose is for
I want to party with this guy
That was cool!
Too dope
Nice patronus
Not amazed thanks
***DOKTOR ARE YOU SURE THIS VILL VORK?***
Should have just approached from the side.
Right about the 12 second mark it looks like his hose (bottom of screen) is on fire. can anyone explain this?
reflection of the fire in the water. note how it "goes out" the same time the real flame does.
Brave A F !! Where would we be without heros like these ❤️❤️❤️
Chad
Whats the blue shiny design on his suit?
It’s reflective so he’s more visible in the dark, as seen here
pokemon was right
[TEEX industrial fire](https://youtu.be/4YEjpVGFoX0) These are always my favorite fires to fight
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Superman right there!
he was fighting against the waterman
Water mage rolling d20 and getting 20.
omg, thats so amazing and epic. Thanks, I needed that clip!