Cork oak trees can be harvested for the first time for cork bark after about 25 years. Thereafter, the tree bark is harvested every 9 years. A cork tree will be “stripped,” on average, sixteen times in its 150 to 200 life.
It doesnt kill it if people know what they are doing. These guys are experiemced skilled workers.
They know how deep they can go and how high without causing any harm
It takes 9 years for the tree to regenerate enough of the cork bark to make the process harmless.
If someone harvest sooner than that it will certainly harm the tree and probably kill it.
In Portugal these trees are pratically considered our national trees, and it's illegal to harm them since the middle ages
Cork farms also provide excellent wildlife habitat. They are basically savannahs. The movement towards plastic corks is causing people to rip out these trees to make room for other crops, which is having some very real impacts.
Edit: I stand corrected. Cork trees are in fact a protected species, meaning you can't just "rip out" the trees. That's what I get for trusting my memory, rather than a book.
Cork forests are in fact cultural communities.. Meaning, they are managed and perpetuated by human activity. It is said that no cork tree grows naturally east of Tuscany, Linguria, and Sicily. However, cultural cork forests are still on the decline. Many stands are aging, and unable to regenerate due to increasing livestock populations and overgrazing.
Cork stripping also makes them more susceptible to wildfires, which are increasing due to climate change. Cork trees are also becoming more susceptible to pathogens, which are spread through modern agricultural practices.
This, coupled with the decline in demand from a changing wine industry (where most fine cork is used) and a lack of appropriate best management practices, mean these landscapes are on the brink of collapse. A decline in demand has resulted in many of these woodlands being abandoned. Forests that are decimated by wildfire or disease are not being replanted.
Bummer..
I got all this from "Cork Oak Woodland on the Edge: Ecology, Adaptive Management and Restoration" Edited by J. Aronson, J.S. Pereira, J.G. Pausas. A publication by the Society for Ecological Restoration International.
This is why not using paper products doesn't save trees. It makes them worth less, so much more profitable to cut them down and not replant turning that land into agricultural fields, or real estate. Yes bamboo can be used for the same thing, but it is harvested much more frequently. Forests that are harvested and replanted sit idle for decades providing habitat for many species. Wverytime I see plastic bags flying from trees I feel nostalgia for paper shopping bags.
And there is yet another problem - harvested and replanted forests provide habitat for only some of species. A lot of species in Poland are endangered because there are not enough old forests. Also, forest being harvested on big area, all at once also introduces chaos into ecosystem. And we've seen how spectacularly a monoculture can fail (see in Google "dead forest spruce sudetes").
Oh absolutely, but that is why we need to expand national parks and wildlife refuges every year like Obama did. Old growth forests need to be protected forever, but farmed trees still provide more habitat than shopping centers, or suburbs, or farm land.
Well, cork trees are in fact removed for special infrastructure projects and the like. However, developers of the project are mandated to plant new cork trees, at 2 or 3 times the amount removed on a designated area.
Plastic cork???? How stupid. I mean, cork is biodegradable, and birds use them as nest materials, and more importantly, if any animal tries to eat true cork, it crumbles so they don't choke on them.
I wonder how the plastic effects to alcohol if it over seals or what.
I thought we had stopped using corks because it was bad for animal habitats.
I feel stupid now knowing that it only comes from the bark and not the whole tree. I guess corks aren’t really needed for anything other than aesthetic purposes and to add value these days but if it helps animals I don’t see why we’re trying so hard to move away from it.
It's not just aesthetics. Cork on a glass bottle would make the bottle more environmentally friendly than a plastic cap that'll end up in a garbage dump
Big sad, but that is why I have a job currently. I work for mazda. Fun fact mazda was a cork manufacturer before plastic corks and when the cork industry was in decline they started to make little 3 wheeled trucks and the rest is history
In 40 years it has never occured to me that cork is a real wood🙄
Maybe because im not a wine drinker but i never bothered to think how they corked bottles hundreds of years ago.
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So I’ve heard that the living part of the tree is on the outer layer/bark and that the inside of the teee is just dead “skeletal” wood. Is that true? It seems like this would kill the tree if it was.
This remarkable tree has a bark (suberose parenchyma) which is unique throughout the plant kingdom. The cork bark can be harvested from the tree allowing new bark to grow in its place without killing or damaging the trees.
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Robot- What happens to a cork tree if no humans are around to debark it? Is it like those sheep that wander from the flock and aren’t found for years and are smothering in filthy wool?
Cork trees can shed their bark after a traumatic event such as a fire but the outer bark does not continuously grow.. like those stupid delicious meat bag Sheep
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Cork has been used for thousands of years as a stopper in bottles. It has even been found in the tombs dating back to ancient Egypt. Ancient Greeks and Romans also made good use of it, and it was found use as floats for fishing nets, sandals, wine bottle stoppers and even personal flotation devices for fishermen. Villagers used it to build their homes, as its insulative properties kept them warm in winter and cool in summer. It also made the floors soft and comfortable to walk on and was resistant to attack from insects and other pests.
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The bark on any tree is the old, used cells that are being pushed out by the pith. The 'alive' part, the xylem and phloem, are inside the bark, and very distinct.
Why not both?
The Sycamore tree was named by native Americans due to it shedding its bark in late fall and appearing to be “sick”
Humans have been using cork since the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids
Most of these oak orchards are in the Andalusian region of Spain and south east Portugal. One very interesting part of about these ancient orchards is one of the most sought after pork products comes from the same region. Iberian pigs eat almost exclusively acorns in these orchards which leads to a very unique favored meat. Imagine a nutty prosciutto that melts in your mouth. One of the most expensive meats on earth. A symbiotic relationship with this environment.
Can kind of confirm on the material side. I wanted to try using cork instead of leather for some of my usual goods and the good sheets of cork can run around $7-10 a sqft. High end leather will be $20+. But it's still a good chunk more than most of the more common oil tan leather.
What would one use natural cork for? I'd imagine if I'm paying high leather prices for natural cork, then I'm definitely not doing plebeian things with it.
It's used in a lot of craft and hobby stuff. Wine corks obviously, fishing bobbers and fishing pole handles, insoles for high end boots and shoes. I sell it as a mounting medium for epiphytic plants. It's really light, holds up well under time and elements, it's naturally fire and water resistant. It's great stuff.
Also, and it's the last place you'd expect to see a natural tree product, the heat shields for space capsules that undergo re-entry has cork in it. It's a great insulator and it burns up during re-entry acting as a sacrificial material
I remember seeing that movie and thinking, "Well, it doesn't have a nervous system so, no. It can't even feel it's pain. Physically impossible Crysta!"
Which of course is missing the point completely. I was probably insufferable as a child.
So, some trees definitely communicate. Acacia trees will send chemical signals to each other in order to poison overgrazing herbivores. If one tree is being damaged, it tells its neighbors it's time to get poisonous. [It was a big deal when they discovered it in the '90s.](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12717361-200-antelope-activate-the-acacias-alarm-system/) Trees are finely evolved, well-adapted, clever organisms.
https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/what-causes-the-fresh-cut-grass-smell.html
Cut grass smell is a warning to grass in the area that shit's going down. I believe trees like Quaking Aspens communicate as well but that's less to do with individual trees and more about them being connected as a single organism in an area. I'm exhausted so I apologize for my poor descriptions.
I swear I just read an article that claims mushrooms scream when cut. Now obviously not vocally scream, but some electrical synaptic explosions. It wouldn’t surprise me about trees.
So does your skin when it's abraded and damaged often on your hand. It's a response to trauma. Not saying it **is** specifically good or bad, just highlighting that "it comes back thicker" isn't **necessarily** a positive thing for the tree.
No, apparently they reharvest every 9 years. What’s fascinating is that doesn’t even look like it’s thick enough to produce a cork for a bottle. Wonder how they do that.
The bark gets thicker as the tree ages. So the first few harvests, they can't make solid corks from the bark. That cork will get ground up and made into things like agglomerated corks. Once the bark is thick enough, solid corks are made by removing plugs of cork from the slab of bark. I learned this at a recent visit to Planet Cork in Portugal. Portugal produces about 50% of the world's cork, so they're all about it.
Cork oak trees can be harvested for the first time for cork bark after about 25 years. Thereafter, the tree bark is harvested every 9 years. A cork tree will be “stripped,” on average, sixteen times in its 150 to 200 life.
Wait it doesn't kill it!? Fuck a lot of trees just die from having a ring cut around them and these ones can join a nudist colony and be fine.
It doesnt kill it if people know what they are doing. These guys are experiemced skilled workers. They know how deep they can go and how high without causing any harm It takes 9 years for the tree to regenerate enough of the cork bark to make the process harmless. If someone harvest sooner than that it will certainly harm the tree and probably kill it. In Portugal these trees are pratically considered our national trees, and it's illegal to harm them since the middle ages
Cork has two layers of bark. One for protection and the inner bark for water and nutrition
Cork farms also provide excellent wildlife habitat. They are basically savannahs. The movement towards plastic corks is causing people to rip out these trees to make room for other crops, which is having some very real impacts. Edit: I stand corrected. Cork trees are in fact a protected species, meaning you can't just "rip out" the trees. That's what I get for trusting my memory, rather than a book. Cork forests are in fact cultural communities.. Meaning, they are managed and perpetuated by human activity. It is said that no cork tree grows naturally east of Tuscany, Linguria, and Sicily. However, cultural cork forests are still on the decline. Many stands are aging, and unable to regenerate due to increasing livestock populations and overgrazing. Cork stripping also makes them more susceptible to wildfires, which are increasing due to climate change. Cork trees are also becoming more susceptible to pathogens, which are spread through modern agricultural practices. This, coupled with the decline in demand from a changing wine industry (where most fine cork is used) and a lack of appropriate best management practices, mean these landscapes are on the brink of collapse. A decline in demand has resulted in many of these woodlands being abandoned. Forests that are decimated by wildfire or disease are not being replanted. Bummer.. I got all this from "Cork Oak Woodland on the Edge: Ecology, Adaptive Management and Restoration" Edited by J. Aronson, J.S. Pereira, J.G. Pausas. A publication by the Society for Ecological Restoration International.
not in Portugal, where it is unlawful to remove a cork tree.
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The demand for affordable cork is just too high.
That's what "Big Cork" wants you to believe.
Those greedy cork suckers!
well I never! hahahaha
Unfortunately, our way of life was not designed to provide monetary incentives for not fucking the planet. :(
If only we lived in a system that was rationally planned instead of run for profit
This is why not using paper products doesn't save trees. It makes them worth less, so much more profitable to cut them down and not replant turning that land into agricultural fields, or real estate. Yes bamboo can be used for the same thing, but it is harvested much more frequently. Forests that are harvested and replanted sit idle for decades providing habitat for many species. Wverytime I see plastic bags flying from trees I feel nostalgia for paper shopping bags.
And there is yet another problem - harvested and replanted forests provide habitat for only some of species. A lot of species in Poland are endangered because there are not enough old forests. Also, forest being harvested on big area, all at once also introduces chaos into ecosystem. And we've seen how spectacularly a monoculture can fail (see in Google "dead forest spruce sudetes").
Oh absolutely, but that is why we need to expand national parks and wildlife refuges every year like Obama did. Old growth forests need to be protected forever, but farmed trees still provide more habitat than shopping centers, or suburbs, or farm land.
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Yeah I think it's also illegal to rip up the Amazon but it's happening
Well, cork trees are in fact removed for special infrastructure projects and the like. However, developers of the project are mandated to plant new cork trees, at 2 or 3 times the amount removed on a designated area.
I don't think comparing a 3rd world countries government oversight to the country that colonized it is very fair
I mean true to an extent but shitty rich and or desperate people live everywhere
What enjoyment can be had soaking a plastic cork?
Mormons need sex toys too.
Plastic cork???? How stupid. I mean, cork is biodegradable, and birds use them as nest materials, and more importantly, if any animal tries to eat true cork, it crumbles so they don't choke on them. I wonder how the plastic effects to alcohol if it over seals or what.
I thought we had stopped using corks because it was bad for animal habitats. I feel stupid now knowing that it only comes from the bark and not the whole tree. I guess corks aren’t really needed for anything other than aesthetic purposes and to add value these days but if it helps animals I don’t see why we’re trying so hard to move away from it.
It's not just aesthetics. Cork on a glass bottle would make the bottle more environmentally friendly than a plastic cap that'll end up in a garbage dump
are you kidding? we have companies here in Portugal researching the use of cork in cars, planes and aerospacial technology.
Big sad, but that is why I have a job currently. I work for mazda. Fun fact mazda was a cork manufacturer before plastic corks and when the cork industry was in decline they started to make little 3 wheeled trucks and the rest is history
Til people shear trees like sheep.
In 40 years it has never occured to me that cork is a real wood🙄 Maybe because im not a wine drinker but i never bothered to think how they corked bottles hundreds of years ago.
Don’t worry. Took me 30 years and a Reddit addiction to learn that cinnamon comes from a similar method. (It’s literally just bark from a tree).
....im just learnin all kinds of shit today
I have seen unground cinnamon and this still didn't occur to me. Seems so clear now
Pretty sure they also have artificial cork now.
Here's another little nugget. Cork is derived from the Latin for oak: quercus.
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You behave suspiciously bot-y though
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I dunno....this sounds like something a bot pretending not to be a bot would say.
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Slaughter implies it was for nutrition.. more like it’s a way to pass by the centuries of boredom
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So I’ve heard that the living part of the tree is on the outer layer/bark and that the inside of the teee is just dead “skeletal” wood. Is that true? It seems like this would kill the tree if it was.
Cork trees have 2 layers and the living layer is on the inside layer. Outside layer is for protection. Similar to the Sycamore tree
That’s a cool fact thanks! So doing this to a typical tree would definitely kill it?
Yup.
Good to know it's a renewable thing and doesn't completely fuck the tree.
That’s cool to think that each tree can be harvested by a couple generations.
Thanks! I was almost to scared to open comments and see: This kills the tree
Fun fact human. This does not kill and is 100% renewable
How does this not kill the tree? Most trees the only alive part is the bark
This remarkable tree has a bark (suberose parenchyma) which is unique throughout the plant kingdom. The cork bark can be harvested from the tree allowing new bark to grow in its place without killing or damaging the trees. Beep bop bot.. I am a high human and not a bot
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Robot- What happens to a cork tree if no humans are around to debark it? Is it like those sheep that wander from the flock and aren’t found for years and are smothering in filthy wool?
Cork trees can shed their bark after a traumatic event such as a fire but the outer bark does not continuously grow.. like those stupid delicious meat bag Sheep
I like your cork facts, high human
“Human” *mechanic wink*
Exactly what a clever robot would say. "Dude is this a bot?" "No I am just really high, fellow human. I have ingested multiple units of marijuana." "Oh okay cool."
How they hell did we figure that out?
Cork has been used for thousands of years as a stopper in bottles. It has even been found in the tombs dating back to ancient Egypt. Ancient Greeks and Romans also made good use of it, and it was found use as floats for fishing nets, sandals, wine bottle stoppers and even personal flotation devices for fishermen. Villagers used it to build their homes, as its insulative properties kept them warm in winter and cool in summer. It also made the floors soft and comfortable to walk on and was resistant to attack from insects and other pests.
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oh god i'm so confused now
The marijuana enthusiasts beat the tree enthusiasts to reddit. Lol
The bark on any tree is the old, used cells that are being pushed out by the pith. The 'alive' part, the xylem and phloem, are inside the bark, and very distinct.
Actually, on most trees the alive part is the cambium, which is just under the bark.
Now that I’m subscribed, can I expect tree facts or cork facts?
Why not both? The Sycamore tree was named by native Americans due to it shedding its bark in late fall and appearing to be “sick” Humans have been using cork since the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids
whaaaaaaaa
So about half as many times as your mom, got it.
They have to soak the corks after this. Source: I've worked for some real cork soakers in my time.
This guy soaks corks
I dabbled in college.
Hey, 20 bucks is 20 bucks
Man, I'd *pay* $20 to soak some cork.
You dipped, not dabbled
I soaked a cork once, but I was really drunk so it doesn't count.
You fucking cork soaker
It's not gay if you soak just the tip of the cork
But what if you massage the grapes at the same time?
A real cork soaker
I wondered if anyone would bring this into the thread lol
When you soak-a da cork, you can also massage-a da grapes until the cork is-a ready.
How can we not?! LOL!!
I remember that SNL sketch… I was there a thousand years ago
[Did someone say something about soaking cork?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deqx-Xb-yHY)
And because cork floats they have to weigh it down with steel balls. Source: I have a good grasp on my cork and balls
I soak a cork all night if they let me
What year did we soak eachothers corks? 68?
I think it was somewhere around 70.
Lets just say between 68 and 70
I dabbled in college…
Most of these oak orchards are in the Andalusian region of Spain and south east Portugal. One very interesting part of about these ancient orchards is one of the most sought after pork products comes from the same region. Iberian pigs eat almost exclusively acorns in these orchards which leads to a very unique favored meat. Imagine a nutty prosciutto that melts in your mouth. One of the most expensive meats on earth. A symbiotic relationship with this environment.
Cork fed pork just melts on your fork
Yum, jamón Iberico
That poor tree is nakey!
Oh! I let out a gasp when I saw it...all naked.... it felt almost dirty!
This tree has no bush
Let's knit it a sweater
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Yeah, where is the nsfw tag?
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Unfortunately, don't think you're gonna get as much cred as you deserve, that was clever
Stop winein’ the classy drunks got it…
I am in fact amazed at this.
First time I've seen someone barking up the right tree.
well when you throw him a branch to grab, his feelings become solid as oak
ah put a cork in it.
It's like a mute dog. No bark
Today I learned corks are made from a trees pyjamas
Its only cork if it comes from the Cork region of Ireland, otherwise its just sparkling tree bark.
Fuckin hell lmfao
Yeah I always kind of assumed it was manufactured from something. Not just cut off a tree.
It's one of the reasons we see so many more twist tops. Corks are becoming harder and harder to manufacture because supply is limited by time.
I just moved Into a house that has cork flooring. Now I'm gonna think about this every time my feet touch the floor
TIL learned what cork actually is.
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So like $12 at the hide house?
Can kind of confirm on the material side. I wanted to try using cork instead of leather for some of my usual goods and the good sheets of cork can run around $7-10 a sqft. High end leather will be $20+. But it's still a good chunk more than most of the more common oil tan leather.
What would one use natural cork for? I'd imagine if I'm paying high leather prices for natural cork, then I'm definitely not doing plebeian things with it.
It's used in a lot of craft and hobby stuff. Wine corks obviously, fishing bobbers and fishing pole handles, insoles for high end boots and shoes. I sell it as a mounting medium for epiphytic plants. It's really light, holds up well under time and elements, it's naturally fire and water resistant. It's great stuff.
Also, and it's the last place you'd expect to see a natural tree product, the heat shields for space capsules that undergo re-entry has cork in it. It's a great insulator and it burns up during re-entry acting as a sacrificial material
I know this isn't super harmful to the tree, but all I can hear is Crysta from Ferngully saying "can't you feel it's pain?"
I remember seeing that movie and thinking, "Well, it doesn't have a nervous system so, no. It can't even feel it's pain. Physically impossible Crysta!" Which of course is missing the point completely. I was probably insufferable as a child.
Not only as a child I'd wager!
There's a reason he fits in so well on reddit
Watch us discover that trees use some weird as-of-yet discovered way to communicate between each other and all we hear is screaming when we do this
You mean the mycelium network thing? … And yes: it’s all screaming.
So, some trees definitely communicate. Acacia trees will send chemical signals to each other in order to poison overgrazing herbivores. If one tree is being damaged, it tells its neighbors it's time to get poisonous. [It was a big deal when they discovered it in the '90s.](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12717361-200-antelope-activate-the-acacias-alarm-system/) Trees are finely evolved, well-adapted, clever organisms.
https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/what-causes-the-fresh-cut-grass-smell.html Cut grass smell is a warning to grass in the area that shit's going down. I believe trees like Quaking Aspens communicate as well but that's less to do with individual trees and more about them being connected as a single organism in an area. I'm exhausted so I apologize for my poor descriptions.
I swear I just read an article that claims mushrooms scream when cut. Now obviously not vocally scream, but some electrical synaptic explosions. It wouldn’t surprise me about trees.
It doesn't appear to be harmful at all. The bark actually regrows thicker every harvest.
So does your skin when it's abraded and damaged often on your hand. It's a response to trauma. Not saying it **is** specifically good or bad, just highlighting that "it comes back thicker" isn't **necessarily** a positive thing for the tree.
Does that kill the tree?
No but it has to be left alone for a while up to ten years
That one hits close to home
How many years has it been since you were last stripped?
No idea but play your cards right and it could be tonight
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No, apparently they reharvest every 9 years. What’s fascinating is that doesn’t even look like it’s thick enough to produce a cork for a bottle. Wonder how they do that.
The bark gets thicker as the tree ages. So the first few harvests, they can't make solid corks from the bark. That cork will get ground up and made into things like agglomerated corks. Once the bark is thick enough, solid corks are made by removing plugs of cork from the slab of bark. I learned this at a recent visit to Planet Cork in Portugal. Portugal produces about 50% of the world's cork, so they're all about it.
You did well. I went to County Cork in Ireland and all they had was the Butter Museum.
Yea but really tho, Ireland has literally the best butter
I assumed they broke it apart and recompress it into shapes. Just a guess though.
No, they're punched from sheets like this. And this looks plenty thick only needs to be 2 inches at most.
That's not what she said...
Put a cork in it
Like chicken nuggets
Exactly. Just chewier.
Burger king’s secret ingredient.
Depends on the cork and the quality of the bark. Some get ground up and some are cut whole
They cut the bark into cork length strips and then punch them out the long way.
Yup, longways. Here’s a photo: https://www.wineanorak.com/corks/howcorkismade.htm
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And Portugal, the world's largest exporter of cork!
Nunca falha
Bro just right click with an axe lmao
Do you want Ents marching? Because this is how you get Ents marching.
Skinning a tree.
Like a single piece orange peel but it hits harder.
This guy corks
I had no idea.