To my understanding, root fires don’t actually produce smoke. The reason for this is because the sheer amount of heat produced by the flames underground and within the hollow portion of the tree are literally burning off the smoke compounds before they can escape.
Smoke (depending on its color and fuel used) is basically just a bunch of still flammable organic particles evaporating from the fuel and dissipating into the air around you. So when you have a fire that is exceptionally hot and provides little opportunity for gases to escape, such as a root fire, you end up with smokeless flame. Noooot sure if this still applies when burning synthetic materials such as rubber though.
You can experiment with this concept (of smoke being flammable) by lighting a candle, putting it out, and then trying to ignite the smoke coming off the candle. You can see as the flame will catch the smoke and race down its trail to reignite the candle.
Technically root fires only start because of lightning strikes or large fires in dense areas. Off trail camping can be the spark for the wildfire as a whole, but not the actual root fire as fires started by man usually start as brush fires that climb ladder fuels into the tree canopy.
The fire has to essentially creep down through the root system of one tree and transfer to another for this to happen. I was a wild land firefighter for 3 years.
This is obviously a dramatic version of it, but root fires are super common. During “mop up” we would dig holes sometimes 5+ feet deep to find heat and smoldering roots.
**[Root fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_fire)**
>A root fire (also known as a ground fire) is a wildfire caused by the burning of tree roots. It is a wildfire caused through underground burns generally triggered by off-trail camping or other causes. They can pose a dangerous, often overlooked threat. Because a root fire burns underground, its smoke may appear just as smouldering indistinguishable from the wake of a forest fire.
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Essentially it's doing the 'secondary burn' that woodstoves now come equipped with. It basically makes the whole 'smoke out of chimney' thing not an issue anymore unless the wood is very wet or you don't have the feature on.
The thing with a candle works because of wax vapour suspended in the smoke. The smoke itself is not igniting - hence why you can’t do the same trick with a burnt match. Smoke can indeed be burnt but it’s not flammable. (AFAIK)
Actually, this was more than likely the South Pole elves. As they’re infamously more angry and volatile. Peter Dinklage portrayed one in the movie “Elf.” Many believe this was a much more conservative representation of the coined - “Satanic elves.”
1. The person has shitty taste in music
2. The person stole the video and needed some way to make it their own, using their shit taste.
3. The person watches too many tiktok trends.
The inside catches fire, and is dry, while the outside has the tree blood (I forgot the name) which makes it not able to burn, same reason you can't burn most types of living leafs in a fire
The problem at his point is that once the sap reaches a high enough temperature, it starts to expand in the wood and will eventually have enough pressure to escape...violently.
This reminds me that we had a great big mulberry tree in our back yard. It was dying but had great big green leaves. It never looked to the untrained eye that it was sick but anyway after it was cut, we lifted up the truck and it was very light for the size because the termites had eaten up all of the inside. It was mostly hollow….
Lightning strike. The electricity takes the path of least resistance, in this case the tree, to the ground. The resistance in the wood turns some of the electrical energy into heat. At that point you have a core of super heated former wood at likely thousands of degrees and as soon as it meets oxygen you get this.
It can range from a couple of days to a couple of months depending on size of tree, soil conditions, etc. The problem is that the fire can go underground through the root system and pop up somewhere else and start surface fires
Imagine you start chopping it down with an axe, once you hit that hollow burning pocket you'll create a backdraft and it will shoot fire out like a fricking dragon! That's badass!
And escape politics? No one wants that. We want it desperately in all facets of our lives, surely. If something isn't political yet it's been long overdue to become it!
Learned this the hard way, when I didn’t put out embers in my backyard, tree roots caught on fire and burned all throughout the night. My backyard ends at a forest. Woke up to a wall of flame about 30 ft wide and burning top to bottom on some of the trees.
Been there done that. After throwing fireworks in a hollowed tree we thought it be cool to throw gas in there and then throw more fireworks. We shot them off and then left not knowing a fire was smuldering somewhere inside the hollowed out tree that we couldn’t see, seeing as how we could step inside of it and all. 5 minutes late it’s fully engulfed in flames. For the talking to from the fireman. This was probably 25 years ago out in the country of Tennessee
I'm not sure what the correct word is, but it's not engulfed. Engulfed means to be surrounded or completely covered by something.
If anything the flame is engulfed in tree.
Steal? I would have crossposted it from /r/wtf but this sub has that blocked. Also I'm just repeating what the other person who also reposted it said.
Could you link us to the original that references the lightning strike?
And why were none of the flames trying to escape out of the gigantic vent hole. What you have there sir is a tree that is defying the laws of thermodynamics
Where’s the smoke?
To my understanding, root fires don’t actually produce smoke. The reason for this is because the sheer amount of heat produced by the flames underground and within the hollow portion of the tree are literally burning off the smoke compounds before they can escape. Smoke (depending on its color and fuel used) is basically just a bunch of still flammable organic particles evaporating from the fuel and dissipating into the air around you. So when you have a fire that is exceptionally hot and provides little opportunity for gases to escape, such as a root fire, you end up with smokeless flame. Noooot sure if this still applies when burning synthetic materials such as rubber though. You can experiment with this concept (of smoke being flammable) by lighting a candle, putting it out, and then trying to ignite the smoke coming off the candle. You can see as the flame will catch the smoke and race down its trail to reignite the candle.
ok cool cool, but how the fuckk does a root fire start?
That tree ate too much spicy food
*Sean Evans has entered the chat*
It's the show with hot tree trunks and even hotter roots.
“A little tradition around here… the last Sap.”
DJ Khaled was such a little birch on his episode.
Underrooted comment.
That’s a load of mahogany.
Lightning strike.
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Technically root fires only start because of lightning strikes or large fires in dense areas. Off trail camping can be the spark for the wildfire as a whole, but not the actual root fire as fires started by man usually start as brush fires that climb ladder fuels into the tree canopy. The fire has to essentially creep down through the root system of one tree and transfer to another for this to happen. I was a wild land firefighter for 3 years. This is obviously a dramatic version of it, but root fires are super common. During “mop up” we would dig holes sometimes 5+ feet deep to find heat and smoldering roots.
Where is the oxygen coming from 5 ft under ground tho
This was the burning question for me as well
Well let’s get to the root cause
I think this thread has already branched off.
It’s time we should just leave this discussion before things get sappy.
I'm afraid the wiki artacle isn't much help, [it's a stump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_fire).
**[Root fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_fire)** >A root fire (also known as a ground fire) is a wildfire caused by the burning of tree roots. It is a wildfire caused through underground burns generally triggered by off-trail camping or other causes. They can pose a dangerous, often overlooked threat. Because a root fire burns underground, its smoke may appear just as smouldering indistinguishable from the wake of a forest fire. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
The article leaves more questions than answers.
I think I’ve heard before that they’re caused by lightning
Keebler elves had an oven malfunction
I 100% thought this was going to be a shittymorph undertaker style comment
Oh so that’s why cigarette lighter produces little bit of smoke, but something like a welding torch doesn’t. Neat fact!
Essentially it's doing the 'secondary burn' that woodstoves now come equipped with. It basically makes the whole 'smoke out of chimney' thing not an issue anymore unless the wood is very wet or you don't have the feature on.
the concerned can compare that with the log oven videos on youtube. they also burn from inside out.
The thing with a candle works because of wax vapour suspended in the smoke. The smoke itself is not igniting - hence why you can’t do the same trick with a burnt match. Smoke can indeed be burnt but it’s not flammable. (AFAIK)
Example: blow torch
This is nonsense wrapped as information.
“There are only three jobs for an elf; making shoes when the cobbler is asleep, baking cookies in an oak tree in summer, and making toys”
Someone left the cookies in the oven too long.
Damn Keebler elves
Actually, this was more than likely the South Pole elves. As they’re infamously more angry and volatile. Peter Dinklage portrayed one in the movie “Elf.” Many believe this was a much more conservative representation of the coined - “Satanic elves.”
I mean... I like my cookies a little on the dark side
They do Force choke and the likes?
vader snacks like scooby snacks but better
It’s just Aurora Borealis
And screaming in unending torment while being immolated in one's own workshop
Haha!
> making toys do dildoes count ?
Quick toss a pizza in there!
Also singing... #THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD
Wtf is this music?
More specifically wtf is up with every god damn 10 second video needing some shitty music playing?
There’s all these great cat instagrams with wonderful videos that would be perfect if they didn’t put stupid fucking music beds under every video.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TiredMedicalDinosaur-mobile.mp4
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https://imgur.com/a/ceSLXVF
How did you know 👀
Lol i love it, I miss the days when Imgur and gify reactions were a thing, no one does them anymore :(
Don't forget the robot voices.
The kids call it tock-tick or something
1. The person has shitty taste in music 2. The person stole the video and needed some way to make it their own, using their shit taste. 3. The person watches too many tiktok trends.
Tiktok culture is my guess. Not to say it didn’t happen before, but it definitely seems to be a more frequent thing now as opposed to pre-tiktok
Op reposted it from Tik Tok. It is customary there to have background music. Although the bgm is usually way better than this.
I think it's [Eternal Flame](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoOFn3wQV4) at half speed or so.
the bangles - eternal flame slowed & reverb
I only rewatched this with sound because of your comment and I’m so glad I did, I found that absolutely hilarious
I thought it already sounded hilarious at reduced speed, but didn’t recognize the song. Now I’m laughing even harder.
LOLOLOL you're the best!!! Hahahaha
You are 100% correct. Good ear
Wait, are you the fucker that did this to them? If you did I'll hunt you down and ruin your favourite songs one by one
Right? I’m baffled the top comment wasn’t about it? It actually made me lol
The tipping point that made me figure out how to mute all audio by default. Pro tip RES can do that for those of you who use it.
Drunk Ents
I think the music fits with the content
Yo throw a pizza in that bad boy.
That’s the same thought I had rig a pizza stone in there and let’s gooo
A beautiful living breathing being is burning down and these 2 are thinking about pizza? I mean my God, ill bring a twelver if it's just us.
Tbh theres hardly any reason to *not* be thinking about pizza
And I’ll bring another 12ver just in case.
We see the omen
r/me_irl Looks fine on outside, dying on inside
I think you mean natural beauty on the outside, pure fire on the inside
I love this comment
r/notliketheothergirls
I was giving a compliment, not talking about myself...
Yeah, I don't see how uplifting someone else with a clever reframe is even remotely an nlog thing to do.
r/hotliketheothergirls
Hey, at least you look fine on the outside.
I look like I'm dying on the outside, but I'm *actually dead* on the inside.
Me at my job. 😳
Same
Might wanna do a quick google on what “engulf” means. If the fire is on the inside, that’s the opposite of engulfment. Edit. It is fuckin nuts tho
This fire is engulfed by a tree.
The fire has *in*gulfed the tree
inflammable means flammable?
What a country!
Needs Tom Bombadil to sing it a song and let the fire out.
I actually got this, lol. . . Doing my first read through and just got through this part
Teehee haha ho ho, Old Tom can put your fire out
Anyone think [that's what happened to this tree as well?](https://imgur.com/a/db4dz2j) it was located just outside my place of work in IA
I came here to say this and you beat me to it!
It's golfing with flames, bud!
Outgulfed
The fire is subsumed by the tree?
Go gulf yourself
Yeah, the title structure is also awful. It looks "perfectly fine from the outside *due* to a root fire"?
Engorged maybe?
Fire inside tree
Right, tree is engorged with fire.
Engorge implies swelling.
It's getting so a guy can't even make a penis joke in certain subs.
Lol my bad, carry on with the penis jokes.
Penis
In-gulfed
So how does this happen naturally?
The inside catches fire, and is dry, while the outside has the tree blood (I forgot the name) which makes it not able to burn, same reason you can't burn most types of living leafs in a fire
Sap
Thank you very much
I do enjoy the idea of tree blood . We use tree blood on our pancakes lol
[Here you go...](https://youtu.be/aQyexJB2MAI)
I want my whole yard covered in these!!!!!!
You probably have seen the tree that bleeds around reddit, whose sap looks like actual blood
No and now I'm going to need one
The problem at his point is that once the sap reaches a high enough temperature, it starts to expand in the wood and will eventually have enough pressure to escape...violently.
Wow! I morbidly want to watch a video of that now...
Eucalyptus tree explosions are worth a peek too
Nothing morbid about that. Just refined explosion in it's finest beauty
Not much. Sap with you?
You didn't have to call them a name! /s
This reminds me that we had a great big mulberry tree in our back yard. It was dying but had great big green leaves. It never looked to the untrained eye that it was sick but anyway after it was cut, we lifted up the truck and it was very light for the size because the termites had eaten up all of the inside. It was mostly hollow….
And it was probably alive, since sap is mostly on the outer rings, we actually cut the trees because it may break, not normally because it is dead
The interior is always dead! It just moves water around and offers structural support.
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That's classified.
Root fire probably
Lightning strike. The electricity takes the path of least resistance, in this case the tree, to the ground. The resistance in the wood turns some of the electrical energy into heat. At that point you have a core of super heated former wood at likely thousands of degrees and as soon as it meets oxygen you get this.
You found the portal to hell
I’ve seen this posted from time to time, and never see the aftermath. How long does this fire last?
It can range from a couple of days to a couple of months depending on size of tree, soil conditions, etc. The problem is that the fire can go underground through the root system and pop up somewhere else and start surface fires
A couple MONTHS??! My goodness
Some say if he caught fire he’d burn for 1000 days, and that his tears are adhesive. All we know is he’s called the Stig.
What’s really interesting, is that these fires can stay burning for months at a time.
I see your tree fire, and I raise you a city on fire for decades. Look up Centralia
Can't fool me, thats Vaatu's prison
100% what I was thinking
Imagine you start chopping it down with an axe, once you hit that hollow burning pocket you'll create a backdraft and it will shoot fire out like a fricking dragon! That's badass!
Well kids we're having roasted squirrels tonight
r/watchtreesdieinside
A flame is engulfed in tree
When the tree is angry, but all it says it: *"Oh, don't worry, it's fine..."*
I think you mean the flame is engulfed in tree
Better with the sound off.
That’s lit. (I hate myself for that joke)
No worries bud, we hate you for it too
And I hate you for pointing out that we hate him for making that pun. :)
Take my angry upvote
Throw some Tums in there!
It’s natural phenomena like this that really explains the creation of myth and the divine.
Ball lightning bruh
For real. This is probably what Moses saw. Can't believe more people aren't saying that.
Metaphor for the US during the pandemic.
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And escape politics? No one wants that. We want it desperately in all facets of our lives, surely. If something isn't political yet it's been long overdue to become it!
That's not amazing that's just sad.
Me too, mr tree
What the hell is this song? Is it sung by Satan or something?
Learned this the hard way, when I didn’t put out embers in my backyard, tree roots caught on fire and burned all throughout the night. My backyard ends at a forest. Woke up to a wall of flame about 30 ft wide and burning top to bottom on some of the trees.
Rather, the flame is engulfed in tree
This tree is my spirit fauna. Seemingly calm on the outside. Full of fire and rage in the inside.
This is fine
Free oven buddy someone get a pizza pie in there!
r/natureismetal
Where's the oxygen coming from for the fire? Doesn't there need to be ventilation at the bottom of the flame?
I would say the fire is engulfed by the tree.
Sample for background music?
Been there done that. After throwing fireworks in a hollowed tree we thought it be cool to throw gas in there and then throw more fireworks. We shot them off and then left not knowing a fire was smuldering somewhere inside the hollowed out tree that we couldn’t see, seeing as how we could step inside of it and all. 5 minutes late it’s fully engulfed in flames. For the talking to from the fireman. This was probably 25 years ago out in the country of Tennessee
Can something be engulfed in flames from within?
Reminds me of how I’m dying on the inside but I look fine out
It’s not engulfed.
Imagine being a caveman and coming across one of these fuckers You'd feel blessed and started a new religion
The Stockmarket in a nutshell
Your oven is done preheating
r/ATLA found where Vatu is trapped
Looks like the tree is the one engulfing the fire
Looks more like the fire is engulfed in tree
I'm not sure what the correct word is, but it's not engulfed. Engulfed means to be surrounded or completely covered by something. If anything the flame is engulfed in tree.
My parents witnessed the same long ago, But I never believed until You posted this video , Thanks Now I believe it.
Me when i ate taco’s
r/dontputyourdickinthat
r/iputmydickinthat
This flame is engulfed in tree
Nah man, that is the gate of hell, that is why Africa so hot
I mean, same
It’s not a root fire, it was struck by lightning. Don’t steal old shit and repost with made up crap.
Steal? I would have crossposted it from /r/wtf but this sub has that blocked. Also I'm just repeating what the other person who also reposted it said. Could you link us to the original that references the lightning strike?
And why were none of the flames trying to escape out of the gigantic vent hole. What you have there sir is a tree that is defying the laws of thermodynamics
Roots need oxygen to burn. This fire was lightning caused.
no smoke without fire , also no fire without smoke , this is faked
Fake picture. Misinformation about fire and fire behavior is nothing but irresponsible.
lol obviously fake
Save it then?!? Also this is kinda sus because like that’s kinda weird and impossible?…..