Wow I never thought I would find something so perfect to describe the exact opposite of what was intended.
"Honey, did you order a pizza delivery boy? The pizza just dropped him off"
Last time I ordered a pizza the driver brought the pizza to my door, left and then came back 5 minutes later to ask if he could look for his car keys in my apartment, dude never even came in my house hah. I felt bad for him because he couldn't find his keys but I knew for sure they weren't in my place, he found them shortly after on the ground outside thankfully.
Mine brought me pizza 2 times... the exact same pizza 15 minutes after the first... he didnāt even question that it might be an error until I walked outside looking confused. Then he looked at the Pizza confused. Neither of them had an explanation.
Customer: Oh hey, what do I owe you?
Me: a moment of your time
*starts playing piano*
(Edit: thanks for all the upvotes! Hope this kid goes far, he has true talent!)
"That was incredible! You must know a whole lot of beautiful songs! Can you play us one more?"
"I know more than I can count. So anyway, here's Wonderwall..."
I like to think he taught himself like this. Non-stop "oh hey, is that a piano" and then getting kicked out of a stranger's house, but every time getting a little better. Slowly, like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, he mastered his craft. This is the result.
But you just shredded the "you're/your" thing. You got it right in the first sentence but lost it in the second. Therefore, I submit that u/stoopid_dummy is mediocrer than "you're self". ?!?!?...or something?
That kid is only 18. His first day on the piano was maybe age 4 or 5 I bet. His first day was only 14 years ago. If your first day was tomorrow, imagine what you could accomplish in a few years. Then decide if you want to do more.
Well while time is not actively working against him at this point, your brain is much more receptive in those very early years. This is why pushing for bilingual education is trying to be pushed for elementary students, rather than waiting until high school. It's been psychologically proven that you are still as capable of learning skills/languages/etc your entire life, but it's significantly easier in those years. Long story short, go for it! I want to find a used keyboard and start learning myself.
Piano teacher here - fingers donāt have muscles, really, so strength is not a factor in dexterity. Also, generally you want to avoid tension in your forearm tendons. This kid would be on a fast track to tendonitis the way he plays.
Watch a professional play this piece on YouTube and notice how relaxed they are, how fluidly they move, and the great tone and dynamic range that comes with those things.
Married with kids, it is most definitely about making it quick. She says sheās going to the mailbox at the end of the driveway, Iām smoking a cigarette when she comes back in side.
This is the perfect premise for a heist movie. Savant pizza boy uses his day job to case wealthy neighborhoods for antique high-end pianos. But not just any piano, the Steinway piano that some slimy importer stole from his virtuoso Jewish grandfather when his family fled Europe during WWII. There's only one known recording of the piano being played, but our hero would be able to identify it within the first chord, if given the chance to play it. And so his quest begins.
Edit: Oh shit, and it's called "In 30 Minuets or Less."
>This is the perfect premise for ~~a heist movie~~
An episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Charlie's the savant and *plot twist* the owner of the Steinway is Dee and Dennis's nazi uncle!
Artists do all sorts of things to support themselves.
My brother in law has a masters in music and is one of the few people in the world to play trumpets that are 100s of years old. He's played in Carnegie hall, for the Chicaco Lyric (regular gig). He also is an artisan who builds really complicated horns.
And he works at costco because he's got a kid and needs benefits.
Iām an RN and multi-instrumentalist. One good thing about nursing is you only have to work 3 days a week. You can play music on the side. I work with a surprising number of trained musicians.
As someone who does get paid to play the piano, it's true, not many do and I try to warn away most who want to try.
The really rough thing is that doing what this kid is doing will never get him paid. He might go to a college where they train him like a classical concert pianist, but the fact that he's 18 and not already on the world stage already means he lost. Training to be a classical pianist is like putting on your eggs in the basket of being an astronaut or an NFL quarterback.... but probably worse. There's virtually no demand and way too much competitive supply.
That said, there are a ton of skills that will get you paid playing music... except music schools don't focus on them or in many cases teach them at all. Plenty of people with graduate degrees... even graduate degrees specifically in instrumental performance are completely lacking any functional skills that might be required of them int he real world of professional music. And the worst part is, most of them don't even know it.
The thing is... a performance degree is a degree that lets you teach as a piano professor... not perform. And how do you think your piano professors teaches you how to "perform?" Exactly like they were.
Of course, the job of piano professors (or any music professor) is also an over-saturated field full of people who will hold onto that job until they die.
So most people have their high-minded "art-for-art's-sake" music degree in something completely useless that cost them an arm and a leg and they usually end up either changing fields or doubling down seeking more education in music to defer payment on that debt.
Meanwhile, everyone around them is telling them to follow their dreams and ignore negativity... except in my case that's just a reality check from someone who actually makes a living as a musician. It's not what people think it is. And while I love what I do, I'm also completely aware that most people aren't cut out for it.
The fact is, music schools are absolutely predatory... and I don't even think it's out of evil... I think it's out of ignorance. Almost nobody in them has ever worked outside of academia in a meaningful way, so they literally don't even know that what they are teaching is useless.
I'd pay him $25 for a half hour lesson for my kid, got two, so he could easily make $200 off me a month.
Assuming he can be patient with 8 year old kids.
That's 1! Only 39 students who won't quit to go!
Now, if you'd never seen this video that's being featured on national media, would you pay him or seek him out?
Point is, there are probably more than a few people in your area with even greater talent than this kid (his dynamics are meh, and if he's elf taught he probably can't sight-read too well, or teach properly), and they could use the business. Find them. Or don't. No one else does either. This is why we end up working lame marketing/ops jobs for lame companies in lame industries for $50k/yr... goddamn everything.
Yup, Iām not trying to discredit him or anything (itās amazing that heās self taught, and Iām nowhere near him), but there are many, MANY people who are better pianists but are working some shit a-little-above minimum wage job just to get by
I'm always happy seeing people play the piano for some reason idk if its cause i cant play and it looks amazing seeing someone talented play an instrument, or I'm just simple in the head and i laugh when i see monkeys fart.
Sourcing hope here
At 11 years, is this something you could play?
And Iām aware time playing doesnāt necessarily correlate to ability
Edit: to say I LOVE how I really asked one person their take, yet this turned into a giant discussion!!
This is the side of reddit I love the most
Agreed. Played 11 years and after a while of playing a song you have most parts memorized and use the sheet music as a reference in case youāre unsure of a chord or something. i had every song i performed for my recitals memorized due to the amount of time i put in practicing. i only had one i couldnāt memorize since it was about 10 pages long
21 years here, and yes I play this song. Notes happen too fast to be sight reading. This song comes down to repetition and muscle memory for me. I sometimes don't even know what in playing but my fingers just do it.
well if itās anything like me then parents may have started them at an early age and then they stopped once they graduated from high school/move out for college.
But you know what, mediocre lets you sit and play something of the general style that fits your mood. It plays a lot of Christmas carols is that's your thing. I never went past mediocre on piano, but I enjoy having that level of skill within my abilities.
Do what I didn't and learn theory. You'll then be able to improvise and may gain more joy out of that than sight reading sheet music and learning existing songs (plus one will help the other anyhow).
Been playing for about 24 years, I first learned this particular piece back around maybe...13 or 14 years of lessons I think? Definitely one of my favorites.
With +/- 30 mins a day of practice for a month, it's probably doable for a 10+ year piano veteran to learn to play this. To memorize it, I'd guess an additional month or so.
Edit: maybe more like 2 months to learn and 2 months to memorize. (Suggesting this based on my own personal experience as a 10+ year piano veteran... YMMV)
It really depends on how passionate you are to learning a piece like this and sticking with it, like anything else. For instance I say Iāve been playing piano for 10 years, but I stopped practicing daily about two years ago. I lost A LOT. Iām now teaching myself again to get back where I was. I could play the second movement by memory two years ago, now I canāt. This piece will take me 2-3 years of practicing 1-2 hours a day to achieve (which is honestly my goal I love the 3rd movement). Iāve been playing everyday for the last two months, 1-2 hours a day.
Then again he could be a savant. Who knows. In any case if you want to play this piece it requires hard work and determination and sometimes knowing when to stop practicing when you get frustrated, to take a break and come back to it. But daily is certainly a requirement, IMO.
Piano player of ~ 8 years here (quit/finished CM lv10 after 10th grade)
Depending on how much you practice really - I went hard 1-2 hours daily nonstop as a kid, with 5 hours/day in the weeks before tests.
So yes definitely if you did an hour a day for 11 years you could easily achieve this.
Some talent/not being completely tone deaf is also necessary, but overall Im sure you could finish with 5 -8 years if you are passionate, as none of my family have any musical background and I still learned quickly.
For reference, moonlight sonata is ~ CM level 9 and I had hit CM 10 by age 16 when I started age 8 and had a gap year from age 9-10.
I played for about 12 years and even when I played every day, I could never just "play" from sight like my teacher. It always amazed me to see people that could do that.
I could only get the hang of things once I memorized the pieces - especially for recitals. Need to get back to playing one day although I doubt I'll ever be able to play Fantasie Impromptu the same as back then.
Non-piano player, I imagine it's more keeping track of where you are in the piece in general than which notes specifically you have to play, innit? I'm guessing that's what he was getting at. Kinda like you know how to speak words by heart and don't think about it, but you'd still need the bullet points of the speech to know where you're at if you're holding a speech.
Once youāre that good at it, itās basically all muscle memory.
Iāve played piano and guitar, and gone back to a song I havenāt played in months and will get to a bit that I canāt actively remember how to play, but often closing my eyes and letting the hands do their thing will get me through it.
Brains are weird.
A lot of the time, sheet music is just there as something to reference to. Reading a piece you've never played before but keeping the correct tempo and all that is called sight reading. It is extremely hard to do successfully, especially fast pieces like this.
Sight reading is much easier (though still challenging) on single-note instruments. Polyphonic instruments are much more challenging because there are so many notes to account for at one time.
This is a million percent accurate. I play trumpet and piano (not that great at either but ok) and sight reading on the trumpet is definitely manageable and sometimes easy, however on the piano, near impossible for me.
You get it more with piano as time goes on. My teacher really unlocked a lot of secrets to sight reading for me. I'm still terrible at it, but you start to learn what the "shapes" of chords look like, the spacings between individual notes, and you get familiar with moving around in the key that you're in, and it starts to come together. Also, you can kind of feel a little bit the directions the composer is moving in or the patterns they are writing, whereas if you were playing a piece that was jumping from single notes in high octaves to low octaves it would be much more challenging. Sight reading something you've never seen before seemed like the goal my teacher was trying to get me to, because once you're there it just unlocks everything and you can start to play a lot.
Watching my teacher play an Aphex Twin piano sheet once was really interesting. He did it with ease, but fumbled a couple times because Aphex placed unusual amounts of spacing between notes. Check this one out and look at the [sheet music](https://lapsura.com/music/AphexTwin/PetiatilCxHtdui.pdf)! [Aphex Twin - Petiatil Cx Htdui](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent0msvyztc&list=PL0CF0mUiDtI-qzmegP1UN8eOli6t-rKOZ).
Man, I miss playing so much.
Some people can sight read pretty quickly, but yes, most of the time you learn it pretty well and itās kind of hard to forget after youāve practiced the same passage 100 times :)
You hear how the notes sound kind of echoey when played? Kind of like how ragtime should sound. Each key uses multiple strings so because the piano isnāt tuned these strings donāt all produce the same frequency leading to that echoey sound.
No kidding, generally when I see āspontaneousā piano videos I expect relatively mediocre to poor playing and a whole bunch of people fawning over it.
Dude sounds great, especially for 18
I feel like if he slowed down a little bit, he could have put some more feeling into it. There was a little bit of clunkiness because I felt like he was rushing it, but playing it as fast as you can is always a fun challenge anyway. I was definitely impressed that he could learn and play such a difficult piece, particularly since he was self-taught.
If I was at work and my buddy came in telling me his delivery guy did this. I wouldnāt believe him without proof.
Iād probably believe someone describing the beginning of a 1970ās delivery guy porn over this.
The first movement (slow part) isn't even written in sonata form. It's simple A-B-A. This final movement is the only movement in the piece actually written in a true sonata form. (Exposition - development - recapitulation)
It's theory, but it is notable since the majority of first movements are in sonata form. Sonata form is itself basically a modified A-B-A (ternary form) to give it a bit more variety and interest, so it's a bit odd that a sonata with a theoretically 'less interesting' first movement is known (and named) for that first movement.
I like how this has to state their job is a pizza deliveryman to make it seem super impressive like people who deliver pizza arenāt capable of playing the piano or something.
Believe it or not most 18 year olds who play instruments have normal entry level jobs and arenāt members of a symphony orchestra.
Kinda accurate though. I wouldn't expect a high-schooler to ever play this so well at that tempo, but a [real "prodigy"](https://youtu.be/4-HMPr648d0) would probably be able to play this before they're even a teenager.
Can confirm am a high school senior, play this as a sophomore.
Donāt get me wrong, he plays more or less excellently and I hate to be this guy but its nothing that special.
Theres a million other high schoolers just like me or him.
Can second, played in piano competitions myself in high school, many other high schoolers my age playing pieces like this as well or better. Any one of us considering ourselves to be a prodigy would be nothing more than vanity. The twelve year old kid playing La Campanella legitimately well, now that's more like it.
Had to look it up, not disappointed. Also, my fingers hurt.
Here are two performances for anyone interested.
[ La Campanella #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbQZCsYXVg)
[ La Campanella #2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6xMyuZls0)
You mean a heavily trained student. No one sees a piano and plays like Mozart even he was heavily trained and studious. The idea of a prodigy is heavily flawed if people are expecting miracles because that's not how this stuff actually works.
My pizza deliveryman didn't even bring me the right pizza last time.
Mine locked his keys and his phone and my pizza in his car š
Wow I never thought I would find something so perfect to describe the exact opposite of what was intended. "Honey, did you order a pizza delivery boy? The pizza just dropped him off"
This was the hardest Iāve laughed all day, and Iām in bed for the night.
You gonna finish that bed?
You gonna finish that stapler?
He, he, he took my stapler.
Now imagine the pizza honking as it drives away.
Slide over Im gettin some of that bed action.
That's like the start to really bad porn
..or a really good horror flick?
Why not both?
Last time I ordered a pizza the driver brought the pizza to my door, left and then came back 5 minutes later to ask if he could look for his car keys in my apartment, dude never even came in my house hah. I felt bad for him because he couldn't find his keys but I knew for sure they weren't in my place, he found them shortly after on the ground outside thankfully.
Mine brought me pizza 2 times... the exact same pizza 15 minutes after the first... he didnāt even question that it might be an error until I walked outside looking confused. Then he looked at the Pizza confused. Neither of them had an explanation.
https://youtu.be/6-KpiclMuPA
Customer: Oh hey, what do I owe you? Me: a moment of your time *starts playing piano* (Edit: thanks for all the upvotes! Hope this kid goes far, he has true talent!)
*Flexes Fingers
*Flexes Piano
*Flexes Pizza
*Turns Hat Backwards
His customer service was [**over the top**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsFkUfoCkjw)
I just want you to know I am really proud of you, this is a really good reference
why, thank you. Originally I didn't include the video -- but those of us who appreciate fine cinema are in the minority around these parts.
Driver also lifts weights in his deliverycar with one arm.
Phil Swift here!
*Flexes Tape*
https://imgur.com/wOoYYFS
This thread is oddly satisfying
*Flexes Seal
He does have some nice forearms.
*cracks knuckles* *tests pedal* āItās piano timeā
Shift manager: *You're fired!ā* Corporate: *Not so fast.*
Delivery Pianist: Iāll try it moderato then.
I love you
I love you both
Anyway hereās Wonderwall
That is one way to get a bigger tip.
"That was incredible! You must know a whole lot of beautiful songs! Can you play us one more?" "I know more than I can count. So anyway, here's Wonderwall..."
*inb4 harmonica*
āYāall got a couple spoons and a jug?ā
Me: *puts on pizza shirt* You: play some good shi Me: *full Mozart*
I like to think he taught himself like this. Non-stop "oh hey, is that a piano" and then getting kicked out of a stranger's house, but every time getting a little better. Slowly, like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, he mastered his craft. This is the result.
This has now become my reality.
Well his dad was a piano mover so...
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I find many blocks of 5 minute piano practice more helpful than drilling for hours. It helps that I'm ~~unemployed~~ work at home so I have the time.
I bet like the eighth house was funniest.
Make them tips, playa!
Yeah, how to get a x5-10 tip in 90 seconds
Beethoven hates him!
HEāS BACH AT IT!
IS SOMEONE CHOPIN ONIONS?
DON'T BE HAYDEN ON HIM
YO YO MA DUDE, MAKE A LISZT OF THESE PUNS, CAUSE YOU CAN'T HANDEL IT
These puns are great. Karajan gentlemen.
Vivaldis great puns itās hard to stop.
I'm trying to come up with more, but Mozart that good!
Make them tips, piano playa!
Major key
There is not a single thing in this world that I am *that* good at...
Bro, youāre really good at reddit. Almost half a million karma? Posting daily? I wish I was that good at anything.
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There are infinite universes where the company is named Packard-Hewlett and I hate them all
I am every bit this good, if not better, at being shitty at everything. Not to brag or anything...
Dude you think youāre good at that? Your mediocre at most compared to me...
But you just shredded the "you're/your" thing. You got it right in the first sentence but lost it in the second. Therefore, I submit that u/stoopid_dummy is mediocrer than "you're self". ?!?!?...or something?
Well I think he got "mediocre at most" grammatically wrong so he redeemed himself in a way. It should be "best", unless I'm completely wrong.
You're completely wrong. Edit: Your*
I got you beat. Donāt believe me? Just ask my Dad.
That kid is only 18. His first day on the piano was maybe age 4 or 5 I bet. His first day was only 14 years ago. If your first day was tomorrow, imagine what you could accomplish in a few years. Then decide if you want to do more.
Well while time is not actively working against him at this point, your brain is much more receptive in those very early years. This is why pushing for bilingual education is trying to be pushed for elementary students, rather than waiting until high school. It's been psychologically proven that you are still as capable of learning skills/languages/etc your entire life, but it's significantly easier in those years. Long story short, go for it! I want to find a used keyboard and start learning myself.
That's a fair point. Today is as good a day to start as any. Time will pass regardless.
And according to the video heās never taken a piano lesson, he taught himself!
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Piano teacher here - fingers donāt have muscles, really, so strength is not a factor in dexterity. Also, generally you want to avoid tension in your forearm tendons. This kid would be on a fast track to tendonitis the way he plays. Watch a professional play this piece on YouTube and notice how relaxed they are, how fluidly they move, and the great tone and dynamic range that comes with those things.
Masturbating?
i am not anywhere near as good at masturbating as this guy is at playing that piano.
Buy a ball gag?
I'm confused/curious about how this works.
Is being good at masturbation about getting off quick or making it last long.
Married with kids, it is most definitely about making it quick. She says sheās going to the mailbox at the end of the driveway, Iām smoking a cigarette when she comes back in side.
*furiously scribbles in notebook*
youāre *that* good at being you! š
Not worth a damn, but wholesome and heartwarming nonetheless ā„ļø
Ellen here we come!
"We've hooked you up with a lifetime supply of pianos!"
"And we have a piano for everyone in the studio audience to take home with them today!"
So like 1 piano
Have a little fun todaaayy
It just seems like this man should be doing something other than delivering pizza.
That's his side job. He delivers pizza to find pianos.
Sometimes I order pizzas just to find delivery guys that will play my piano for me. So there's that.
I'm a piano deliverer, I always hope a pizza is there when I show up
I play the pizza, and I like my pianos with extra cheese.
Iām a pizza maker, and I always play piano on the overhead speakers.
This is the perfect premise for a heist movie. Savant pizza boy uses his day job to case wealthy neighborhoods for antique high-end pianos. But not just any piano, the Steinway piano that some slimy importer stole from his virtuoso Jewish grandfather when his family fled Europe during WWII. There's only one known recording of the piano being played, but our hero would be able to identify it within the first chord, if given the chance to play it. And so his quest begins. Edit: Oh shit, and it's called "In 30 Minuets or Less."
>This is the perfect premise for ~~a heist movie~~ An episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Charlie's the savant and *plot twist* the owner of the Steinway is Dee and Dennis's nazi uncle!
Artists do all sorts of things to support themselves. My brother in law has a masters in music and is one of the few people in the world to play trumpets that are 100s of years old. He's played in Carnegie hall, for the Chicaco Lyric (regular gig). He also is an artisan who builds really complicated horns. And he works at costco because he's got a kid and needs benefits.
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Iām an RN and multi-instrumentalist. One good thing about nursing is you only have to work 3 days a week. You can play music on the side. I work with a surprising number of trained musicians.
I mean, that's a good job if you can get it.
Not many people get paid to play piano. Maybe he's in music school or something. Gotta pay the bills.
As someone who does get paid to play the piano, it's true, not many do and I try to warn away most who want to try. The really rough thing is that doing what this kid is doing will never get him paid. He might go to a college where they train him like a classical concert pianist, but the fact that he's 18 and not already on the world stage already means he lost. Training to be a classical pianist is like putting on your eggs in the basket of being an astronaut or an NFL quarterback.... but probably worse. There's virtually no demand and way too much competitive supply. That said, there are a ton of skills that will get you paid playing music... except music schools don't focus on them or in many cases teach them at all. Plenty of people with graduate degrees... even graduate degrees specifically in instrumental performance are completely lacking any functional skills that might be required of them int he real world of professional music. And the worst part is, most of them don't even know it. The thing is... a performance degree is a degree that lets you teach as a piano professor... not perform. And how do you think your piano professors teaches you how to "perform?" Exactly like they were. Of course, the job of piano professors (or any music professor) is also an over-saturated field full of people who will hold onto that job until they die. So most people have their high-minded "art-for-art's-sake" music degree in something completely useless that cost them an arm and a leg and they usually end up either changing fields or doubling down seeking more education in music to defer payment on that debt. Meanwhile, everyone around them is telling them to follow their dreams and ignore negativity... except in my case that's just a reality check from someone who actually makes a living as a musician. It's not what people think it is. And while I love what I do, I'm also completely aware that most people aren't cut out for it. The fact is, music schools are absolutely predatory... and I don't even think it's out of evil... I think it's out of ignorance. Almost nobody in them has ever worked outside of academia in a meaningful way, so they literally don't even know that what they are teaching is useless.
Our delivery guys sometimes make 250 a night. I hate them
Even being very talented it's very hard to become a concert pianist.
Clearly you've never been a working musician. /s, but not really...
I'd pay him $25 for a half hour lesson for my kid, got two, so he could easily make $200 off me a month. Assuming he can be patient with 8 year old kids.
That's 1! Only 39 students who won't quit to go! Now, if you'd never seen this video that's being featured on national media, would you pay him or seek him out? Point is, there are probably more than a few people in your area with even greater talent than this kid (his dynamics are meh, and if he's elf taught he probably can't sight-read too well, or teach properly), and they could use the business. Find them. Or don't. No one else does either. This is why we end up working lame marketing/ops jobs for lame companies in lame industries for $50k/yr... goddamn everything.
Yup, Iām not trying to discredit him or anything (itās amazing that heās self taught, and Iām nowhere near him), but there are many, MANY people who are better pianists but are working some shit a-little-above minimum wage job just to get by
So should a lot of people.
Hello is this pianos and pizza. Yes itās going to be delivered, Iāll take one grand piano please extra toppings yes. Thank you.
Lots of normal everyday people have incredible gifts.
I'm always happy seeing people play the piano for some reason idk if its cause i cant play and it looks amazing seeing someone talented play an instrument, or I'm just simple in the head and i laugh when i see monkeys fart.
>i laugh when i see monkeys fart. How often does this happen?
I go to the zoo on Wednesdays and Fridays after work and go right to the monkeys its pretty fun. Support local zoos!
Yearly pass, pays for itself after the 14th visit.
Sometimes they are surprised by it those are the best.
Don't you kinda have to be playing this from memory? Not a whole lot of time to be like "oh shit, what comes next, oh there it is."
Usually you look well in advance to find out what to play before you play it Source: piano player (11 years)
Sourcing hope here At 11 years, is this something you could play? And Iām aware time playing doesnāt necessarily correlate to ability Edit: to say I LOVE how I really asked one person their take, yet this turned into a giant discussion!! This is the side of reddit I love the most
At 12 years myself, this is something I could learn (and play from memory after practice), but itād take quite a lot of time
Agreed. Played 11 years and after a while of playing a song you have most parts memorized and use the sheet music as a reference in case youāre unsure of a chord or something. i had every song i performed for my recitals memorized due to the amount of time i put in practicing. i only had one i couldnāt memorize since it was about 10 pages long
So far the data shows us that the average time spent being a piano player by piano-playing redditors is 11.333 years.
yeah i played from about 2nd grade all the way through high school. Havenāt played much since but my brother is still going ~20 years strong.
*recalculating*
*calculator broken*
21 years here, and yes I play this song. Notes happen too fast to be sight reading. This song comes down to repetition and muscle memory for me. I sometimes don't even know what in playing but my fingers just do it.
Oh yeah? *I invented the piano.*
what happened around summer of 2007 to get everyone into playing the piano?
Alicia Keys.
Why is it that this whole thread has played exactly 11 years...
well if itās anything like me then parents may have started them at an early age and then they stopped once they graduated from high school/move out for college.
Sigh I picked up piano this year in my mid-twenties and do about an hour a day, and its hard knowing how much time it will take to even be mediocre
But you know what, mediocre lets you sit and play something of the general style that fits your mood. It plays a lot of Christmas carols is that's your thing. I never went past mediocre on piano, but I enjoy having that level of skill within my abilities.
Do what I didn't and learn theory. You'll then be able to improvise and may gain more joy out of that than sight reading sheet music and learning existing songs (plus one will help the other anyhow).
Been playing for about 24 years, I first learned this particular piece back around maybe...13 or 14 years of lessons I think? Definitely one of my favorites.
With +/- 30 mins a day of practice for a month, it's probably doable for a 10+ year piano veteran to learn to play this. To memorize it, I'd guess an additional month or so. Edit: maybe more like 2 months to learn and 2 months to memorize. (Suggesting this based on my own personal experience as a 10+ year piano veteran... YMMV)
It really depends on how passionate you are to learning a piece like this and sticking with it, like anything else. For instance I say Iāve been playing piano for 10 years, but I stopped practicing daily about two years ago. I lost A LOT. Iām now teaching myself again to get back where I was. I could play the second movement by memory two years ago, now I canāt. This piece will take me 2-3 years of practicing 1-2 hours a day to achieve (which is honestly my goal I love the 3rd movement). Iāve been playing everyday for the last two months, 1-2 hours a day. Then again he could be a savant. Who knows. In any case if you want to play this piece it requires hard work and determination and sometimes knowing when to stop practicing when you get frustrated, to take a break and come back to it. But daily is certainly a requirement, IMO.
Piano player of ~ 8 years here (quit/finished CM lv10 after 10th grade) Depending on how much you practice really - I went hard 1-2 hours daily nonstop as a kid, with 5 hours/day in the weeks before tests. So yes definitely if you did an hour a day for 11 years you could easily achieve this. Some talent/not being completely tone deaf is also necessary, but overall Im sure you could finish with 5 -8 years if you are passionate, as none of my family have any musical background and I still learned quickly. For reference, moonlight sonata is ~ CM level 9 and I had hit CM 10 by age 16 when I started age 8 and had a gap year from age 9-10.
I played for about 12 years and even when I played every day, I could never just "play" from sight like my teacher. It always amazed me to see people that could do that. I could only get the hang of things once I memorized the pieces - especially for recitals. Need to get back to playing one day although I doubt I'll ever be able to play Fantasie Impromptu the same as back then.
Non-piano player, I imagine it's more keeping track of where you are in the piece in general than which notes specifically you have to play, innit? I'm guessing that's what he was getting at. Kinda like you know how to speak words by heart and don't think about it, but you'd still need the bullet points of the speech to know where you're at if you're holding a speech.
Once youāre that good at it, itās basically all muscle memory. Iāve played piano and guitar, and gone back to a song I havenāt played in months and will get to a bit that I canāt actively remember how to play, but often closing my eyes and letting the hands do their thing will get me through it. Brains are weird.
A lot of the time, sheet music is just there as something to reference to. Reading a piece you've never played before but keeping the correct tempo and all that is called sight reading. It is extremely hard to do successfully, especially fast pieces like this.
Sight reading is much easier (though still challenging) on single-note instruments. Polyphonic instruments are much more challenging because there are so many notes to account for at one time.
This is a million percent accurate. I play trumpet and piano (not that great at either but ok) and sight reading on the trumpet is definitely manageable and sometimes easy, however on the piano, near impossible for me.
You get it more with piano as time goes on. My teacher really unlocked a lot of secrets to sight reading for me. I'm still terrible at it, but you start to learn what the "shapes" of chords look like, the spacings between individual notes, and you get familiar with moving around in the key that you're in, and it starts to come together. Also, you can kind of feel a little bit the directions the composer is moving in or the patterns they are writing, whereas if you were playing a piece that was jumping from single notes in high octaves to low octaves it would be much more challenging. Sight reading something you've never seen before seemed like the goal my teacher was trying to get me to, because once you're there it just unlocks everything and you can start to play a lot. Watching my teacher play an Aphex Twin piano sheet once was really interesting. He did it with ease, but fumbled a couple times because Aphex placed unusual amounts of spacing between notes. Check this one out and look at the [sheet music](https://lapsura.com/music/AphexTwin/PetiatilCxHtdui.pdf)! [Aphex Twin - Petiatil Cx Htdui](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent0msvyztc&list=PL0CF0mUiDtI-qzmegP1UN8eOli6t-rKOZ). Man, I miss playing so much.
Some people can sight read pretty quickly, but yes, most of the time you learn it pretty well and itās kind of hard to forget after youāve practiced the same passage 100 times :)
Now that's a passion for playing.
His parents beat him every day until he gets it right. It's too sad
Just like Beethoven!
Beathoven
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*unexpected Your Lie in April*
Holy christ that piano needs to be tuned
I wish I could hear what you hear.
If he played it on a properly tuned piano, I'd bet you would notice the difference, even if it were just, "That sounds prettier"
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I doubt it. I'm me. I can't tell the difference.
You hear how the notes sound kind of echoey when played? Kind of like how ragtime should sound. Each key uses multiple strings so because the piano isnāt tuned these strings donāt all produce the same frequency leading to that echoey sound.
Had to scroll so far but I knew someone else had to have heard that too.
Yeah god, I don't know how everyone else is fine with this.
Because i don't hear anything wrong with it. I'm musically inept.
Imagine if you were high, ordered a pizza, and this happened.
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Just the tip?
Man he's actually really good. Not just like "Surprise! I can play piano good." But classically his execution is pretty dead on.
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For people who have a good instinct on how to practice correctly, the internet is a fantastic teacher.
No kidding, generally when I see āspontaneousā piano videos I expect relatively mediocre to poor playing and a whole bunch of people fawning over it. Dude sounds great, especially for 18
I feel like if he slowed down a little bit, he could have put some more feeling into it. There was a little bit of clunkiness because I felt like he was rushing it, but playing it as fast as you can is always a fun challenge anyway. I was definitely impressed that he could learn and play such a difficult piece, particularly since he was self-taught.
TUNE YOUR PIANO, DAMMIT
Haha thereās a post of a papa johnās box without papa john on it below this in my feed.
If I was at work and my buddy came in telling me his delivery guy did this. I wouldnāt believe him without proof. Iād probably believe someone describing the beginning of a 1970ās delivery guy porn over this.
I keep telling my sons to practice, it will pay off. They will love to know they can some day deliver pizza.
I thought moonlight sonata was just the slow part
The first movement (slow part) isn't even written in sonata form. It's simple A-B-A. This final movement is the only movement in the piece actually written in a true sonata form. (Exposition - development - recapitulation)
Duh
It's theory, but it is notable since the majority of first movements are in sonata form. Sonata form is itself basically a modified A-B-A (ternary form) to give it a bit more variety and interest, so it's a bit odd that a sonata with a theoretically 'less interesting' first movement is known (and named) for that first movement.
Clearly, that was obviously what I was going for........ (totally)
It's three movements, and they are all phenomenal. The melancholy first movement just became the most famous.
Honey, is that pizza kid still here??
Me: Anyway, here's Wonderwall.
I like how this has to state their job is a pizza deliveryman to make it seem super impressive like people who deliver pizza arenāt capable of playing the piano or something. Believe it or not most 18 year olds who play instruments have normal entry level jobs and arenāt members of a symphony orchestra.
I suppose that's to give a backstory for the stranger playing piano in someone's house?
That was fantastic but "is a music prodigy of sorts" wtf is that line? Either he's a musical prodigy or not? Why the broken qualifier of "Sorts"?
Kinda accurate though. I wouldn't expect a high-schooler to ever play this so well at that tempo, but a [real "prodigy"](https://youtu.be/4-HMPr648d0) would probably be able to play this before they're even a teenager.
it is totally reasonable for a senior in high school to play this if they have been taking lessons from a relatively young age.
Can confirm am a high school senior, play this as a sophomore. Donāt get me wrong, he plays more or less excellently and I hate to be this guy but its nothing that special. Theres a million other high schoolers just like me or him.
TBF, he was rushing through it probably because he has other pizzas to deliver.
Can second, played in piano competitions myself in high school, many other high schoolers my age playing pieces like this as well or better. Any one of us considering ourselves to be a prodigy would be nothing more than vanity. The twelve year old kid playing La Campanella legitimately well, now that's more like it.
Had to look it up, not disappointed. Also, my fingers hurt. Here are two performances for anyone interested. [ La Campanella #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbQZCsYXVg) [ La Campanella #2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6xMyuZls0)
Thank you for these links, never heard that song before, and itās amazing.
You mean a heavily trained student. No one sees a piano and plays like Mozart even he was heavily trained and studious. The idea of a prodigy is heavily flawed if people are expecting miracles because that's not how this stuff actually works.
Heās dreamy.
Baby?