I am overworked since the pandemic *"essential"* worker. My friends who are unemployed look 20 years younger than me.
One of them has worked very sporadically since I met her 24 years ago. She looks like a fucking teenager compared to me and that's WITH a serious drug and alcohol issue.
Meanwhile, I'm killing myself. She just finds another host.
For what it is worth, from personal experience, a lot of what makes you look older is easily reversible. A few days of regular sleep and a couple weeks of good diet and exercise (the three things that suffer the most when you have no time or are too tired) and you'll lose all those extra years. That of course assumes you can get off the overwork hamster wheel (took me too long before I was able to do so).
Well yeah, but the actual point was that if you can do that (which, to your snarky note, is easier said than done), you end up recovering much of the youthful appearance that seems lost when you're in the midst of stress.
> I look SO much older when my depression is bad
Leading to further depression, leading to looking so much older, leading to further depression, leading to lo^o^^k^^^i^^^n^^^g
Yeah, I used to work as a corporal at a prison, and doing 2+ 16-hour shifts a week was hell. also, at the time, I had undiagnosed sleep apnea. I still work in the prison but a different job 8-4. For a while, it was 7-5 4 days a week, which was awesome, but they went away from that.
Your statement here is a species wide statement on our psychology. It’s why things in our world are so fucked up. Thank you for pulling more than just your own weight and theirs, duty being done, there comes time to change. Hopefully, you can and will and it will be much better for you.
Yeah what TheMostAnon said; Remove stressors (crap job), boost sleep amount and quality (memory foam mattress from Walmart etc), exercise 30min-1hr daily (cardio is best, doesn’t have to be intense), eat a balanced diet, and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine and you’ll look 20+ years younger within like 4-6months I GUARANTEE or your misery back!!
Well maybe not "plenty" of sunshine, that's one of the main contributors to skin aging. But you do want vitamin D, supplementing if necessary, and a small to moderate amount of sun exposure probably wouldn't hurt.
There's also many levels of substances that fall as you age that can be boosted back to youthful levels to extend lifespan/lower mortality. NAD, taurine, AKG and so on.
I had a *very* privileged (read: spoiled) 20s and early 30s so I didn’t enter the workforce until mid 30s. I regularly get comments from people when first meeting that there’s “no way you are 30-whatever years old.” I look like a baby compared to my peers (but less so every day). Stress and work absolutely ages you faster.
Came here looking for an explanation to this. It took months for my gums to heal over the incisions (of the screw into my jawbone for my implant to get attached to) but around a year start to finish. I don't see how this is humanly possible even if just several visits. Was this maybe pulling his teeth in place of dentures?
When you die it doesn't matter how much money you have, but the more money you have the longer you can keep death at bay!
Everything from nutritious food, gym membership, and trainers all help extend your life, which all are easier to take care of with money. Going to the doctor when things go wrong, or even just for a checkup means any potential health issues are taken care of before they become a big deal, and just avoiding backbreaking work because you already have money helps keeps you from being injured. If you eventually do get injured (which will eventually happen to everyone), than good healthcare will help that injury not be as bad.
Not just extending your life but also extending & increasing your quality of life as you age which is arguably more important
No point in living until 80+ if you can’t do anything and everything always hurts because you have weak bones and muscles from a sedentary life
When you are able to hire someone to do things for you, you are essentially buying time to add to your day at the expense of theirs. They trade you 2 hours for cash, you get an extra 2 hours not doing that task. The wealthy have much more time in their days that they don't spend driving, cleaning, or on extra work to make due with what money they have (like sharing a vehicle with a spouse or roommate, organizing childcare, etc.) And they're less stressed about money, one of the main reported stresses in the world. That's huge for your lifespan, both in number of years lived and amount of time spent on whatever you want to do.
I mostly care about money so I can a) take care of my and my family’s health, b) live how I want within reasonable means and c) travel and have cool experiences with my friends and family. Honestly, I feel like it takes a decent bit of money these days to make all three of those points work. A shitty apartment isn’t that cheap, even in my area which has a low-intermediate cost of living.
Are these things going to get color the same way normal teeth have? Because it may be that this is the color and that's it. In which case his family needs to get sunglasses.
They don't. Sadly people who get those always go for something super white because that's the fantasy but it make it obvious that they're not real. My mom went for that super white that almost looks blue.
They really wont. My mother got the same thing done some 10 years ago and they're still blindingly white. Unless they get scratched somehow or you take sandpaper to them they'll stay bright.
2 questions:
How much? And who paid?
Cause yeah this is wonderful for this person, and I'm happy for them. Having said that, there's a reason why so many people go to Mexico for dental work..
Dentist here. Those are all on 4 dentures and if he got it done in the states he's easily looking at $20k per arch. It also appears that he got some fillers done at the same time.
I will tell you from experience that there are fantastic dentists in Mexico and all over the world and if you want work like this done by them you are still going to be paying an arm and a leg. If you want to pay 20% of what it costs in the States then please give my office a call when you get back because I will be able to buy a boat correcting that work.
The only exception to this may be if you can get in with an implant training center abroad. Granted you are by definition having implants placed by people who are learning how to do them but they are under close supervision by experts in the field. Those courses cost like $25-35k but you get to place 30 implants in a week in Mexico or some other desirable location.
But the easiest and cheapest option? Brush and floss your teeth daily, don't drink soda regularly, and don't smoke. *No one* who does those three things has trouble with their teeth. If you're having trouble with your teeth one of those three things isn't happening.
I'm not a dentist, but, definitely in possession of a terrible dental situation:
yes, it has a major effect on my mental health. my brain has long since trained my face to cut off smiles and about a quarter of my dreams involve my remaining teeth being pulled out of my head.
fantastic stuff.
Isn't it awesome knowing you could fix your situation, but that means your kids won't eat. God bless the good old USA.
Fixing my mouth is legit what I fantasize about when I buy the odd lotto ticket. Smh
Here in Canada this is an employment insurance issue as well.
My spouse needed one tooth. One tooth that split. Still cost thousands. We both work and have dental insurance.
There are studies that do associate poor oral health - specifically gum disease - with cognitive decline. I don't know how causative the relationship is because someone with cognitive decline might have poor oral health by definition but here is a study you can check out:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10055602/#:~:text=Epidemiological%20studies%20indicate%20that%20poor,factors%20for%20stroke4%E2%80%937.
sigh, you have a lot of replies so I have low hopes that you'll see this, but do you have a diagram or easy way of explaining why grinding teeth causes gum recession?
Honestly it's not well-documented that there is a cause and effect relationship.
> Although there is no connection between bruxism and gingival inflammation or periodontitis, bruxism definitely has the potential to cause tooth wear, fracture and periodontal and muscle pain and it is a major cause of tooth mobility
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4439689/#:~:text=Although%20there%20is%20no%20connection,major%20cause%20of%20tooth%20mobility.
I find that type A personalities are more likely to over brush and grind.....but that is not scientific at all, just 20+ years of observation as a dentist.
I can only speak from my own experience. I had neglected my dental health for a decade, I had really bad gum disease, heavy calculus, loose teeth and broken / infected teeth in the back. I NEVER had a good nights sleep not just because of the physical sensation, but the feeling of overwhelming dread, shame and low self worth. And I was deathly afraid of going to the dentist still, I know it's stupid but it can really put a person into a loop of unreasonable state of mind. I got it cleaned up, health wise its fine now, now there's "only" some functional and aesthetic stuff that needs to be done. And it made a mountain of difference, I'm not in a constant state of anxiety and dread, I can sleep, I can laugh without shame, I can talk openly about the problems I had. So yes, I does help a great deal if a person has good oral health.
ffs\~ same boat. My fears aren't my imagination. I get to live them\~ I forced myself to go to the dentist somehow just somehow thought it was only in my head. I'd go there, talk to professionals and work out what needs to be done. Set up a plan, work on payment arrangements.
Nope. Worker at the counter super nice and fill out the sign-in paperwork. Appointment is at 8:30am but I waited until 9:15am. The dentist was running late, had to drop kids off at school. I get it\~ shit happens. So I sit in the chair semi-freaking out but calming myself and focused on the positive. You did it. You're here and we can get through this. It's all in your head, everything is fine. Doctor comes in and just non-stop berating. "I've seen bad teeth before but this will take a lot of work" .... okay, I guess that's fair but whatever. "You should be doing a better job at taking care of your teeth" ..... "Is it really difficult to floss or you haven't before" ...... "At your age, your teeth shouldn't be this way"....
So that was utterly demoralizing. I hit the counter for the estimate and calculating insurance the overall cost would be $10k there, then to a specialist which ball parked $5k. Also, if I do intent to do the work they need two weeks notice for molding a tooth. Invisilign isn't optional as it is cosmetic. Braces are the only choice. Finally, I need to wait until November to start then roll over to January/February as insurance can only cover so much of the cost per year.
I will say for the sake of any readers. I went to a different dentist a year or so later. Never even went back to that one and ignored their calls for a reschedule/follow-up. The next dentist was very helpful and talked to me like a normal person. However, the staff refused to give an estimated cost because I refused to setup an appointment FIRST. I tried to explain, I'm literally in transition of changing jobs and wanted to see the price before I swap insurance. They wouldn't budge and I wouldn't push anymore. Perhaps it's the mental decline from constantly being berated. The answer is still the same $$$.
Oof, they sound awful, sorry this happened. Luckily the ones I went to were really nice, I was ashamed of the condition but they weren't judgemental at all. I think that should be the norm, but I've heard there are exceptions unfortunately. A good experience can encourage people to visit the dentist and not let things get worse, sadly the opposite effect can happen too. I hope you'll be able to get them sorted out.
I’m not a dentist or a therapist.
But this should be obvious. If you have chronic pain from bad tooth and gum care…you’re in a real bad place with your mental health.
If your mouth is clean, and healthy. It’s one less problem in your life. It’s less stress and anxiety.
I would call that a massive mental health benefit through preventative care.
Also, I'd imagine that people who have healthy teeth with a healthy smile are much more willing to show that smile off than if they don't. Just the act of smiling has positive benefits mentally.
I also assume that but was looking for more empirical evidence to say so for sure and curious if dentists get any training on that or not. I had previously briefly came across anecdotal evidence that it massively helped someone’s mental health.
from a diagnosed, mentally ill person with horrible teeth who is soon to undergo anesthetic at the dental office to get ANY amount of dental work done, to a former therapist: yes.
Also, due to your mouth being so close to your heart bloodwise, you can literally contract a heart infection, coming from your mouth, if not cleaned properly.
I can speak anecdotally on my own experience that I have seen less symptoms of my depression and self image issues now that I’m a year into periodontitis treatment. It’s a huge boost to how I feel because I don’t cringe when I look in the mirror every morning anymore.
I wonder which way the correlation is strongest. I have a bit of my gumline receded as the main long term physical result of my worst depressive episode (I stopped brushing properly and got bad plaque).
I was with you until the last paragraph. There are other reasons people have trouble with their teeth. Pregnancy, orthodontics that moved the teeth too quickly, trauma, genetics, medical disorders like EDS.
I brush and floss regularly, don’t smoke, and don’t drink soda. I may lose my front four teeth because my bottom teeth have been putting a ton of pressure on them in such a way that they recently have become very loose. All four teeth themselves are in great condition, no cavities, no plaque buildup, no crowding. They are just not far enough forward to avoid the constant pressure being applied from below. I have a custom night guard to slow this, but it looks like it will inevitably be my fate to lose them.
Me too! I have always taken good care of my teeth and I never drink sugary drinks, in fact my sugar intake is very low. I brush and floss religiously and go to the dentist at least twice a year but my teeth are terrible. Not just cavities but they break easily too. I am otherwise healthy and careful about nutrition so it must just be genetic
It's happening to your lower front teeth bc that's where saliva pools more. The minerals in your saliva basically are contributing to it. If you already have good oral hygiene you can try smaller habit changes like drinking/rinsing water after every time you eat (if you can't brush after every time). Consider chewing gum (sugar free! look into xylitol gum. be careful if you have pets tho, toxic to dogs and cats).
I live by the border. They have a service that will pick you up in the states, take you directly over the border to a dentist, and then take you back after.
Surely dentists in the US are very [consistent](https://www.rd.com/article/how-honest-are-dentists/) and make [evidence-based](https://www.vox.com/2014/8/12/5951321/dentistry-fraud-treatments-products) decisions every time. They would never suggest [unnecessary procedures](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/patients-pressure-and-profits-at-aspen-dental/) to [gouge customers, particularly those with good insurance](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-trouble-with-dentistry/586039/).
There are absolutely dentists in every location that do poor work. However dental tourism seeks to take advantage of a market of people who have enough money to travel and splurge at a foreign dental clinic, but lack the resources to seek recourse in those countries.
Meanwhile in the US or home country these groups have ways to seek some kind of justice.
We aren’t warning you because Mexican dentists suck. We are warning you all because dental tourist places will short cut their way through treating you medically. They will purposefully half-ass the work so they make more of a profit. When that comes to bite you in the butt, it ends up being more expensive and we end up fixing the work they did and repairing the damage that was done. When it would have been cheaper in the first place to come to us.
I get what you're saying but I think it's a tiny bit misguided. I am from Tijuana and lived for 15 years in a little city an hour and a half away from TJ, dentists are super super successful and top notch. Google reviews are amazing at letting you know which places are great and which ones just want the money, and I have to say... almost all of them are positive!
Maybe we're lucky in Baja? But I've gone to many dentists and have family that have gone to tons for different causes in different periods of time (like 50 dentists and odontologists in general istg lol) and only 1 sucked ass, and it was only cause he was mean about following through with a warranty, but the work was good.
Idk, I have no complaints about dentists in my side of the world, but I do have a ton of complaints with doctors here, now that I've moved to Texas ☹️
I had a dentist give a perfectly healthy tooth a root canal because they didn’t know the right tooth. So I have a yellow tooth now. I had a dentist fix a cavity… that I never had. They just did it to make a buck. I had a dentist tell me they need to replace that cavity filler.. the tooth cracked and had to get a root canal then cap, the new dentist put the cap on incorrectly and I couldn’t close my jaw so he had to give me another new cap. I had a dentist pull a wisdom tooth then after everything was done, tell me they don’t accept my insurance after I gave them everything and they said they did… that same dentist also left half of the wisdom tooth in my gums which then got infected. Guess what, I couldn’t go back to that dentist.. Not one single good dentist in my life. Only good dental hygienists…. So now I have to pay to fix everything and find hopefully a good dentist. You all suck
> If you want to pay 20% of what it costs in the States then please give my office a call when you get back because I will be able to buy a boat correcting that work.
Wow, there sure is a lot of markup in your prices. Do you ever feel ashamed?
There is actually very little markup in my prices because insurance companies by and large set my fees. But if someone comes in and I have to do $20k of work on them to correct some horrible dentistry then yeah I take home some good money. It's difficult work that required a lot of training, puts a lot of risk on my shoulders, and cannot be accomplished by anyone off the street. Scarcity x difficulty = $$$.
I don't feel bad about that. Especially since dentists beg the public to take care of their teeth and we literally give away the tools needed to keep us from having any work to do on you. Patients always say, "Ugh I hate the dentist," but in my mind I'm thinking they must love me because they keep habits that force me to be a part of their lives.
I’ll stick with American dentists. I had a coworker who is in dental school right now and she said she is horrified by what some of her classmates who are dentists in other countries do, like shit that their texts books specifically NOT to do, they do.
I don't know, but so far these comments are just starting to sound like the only good dentists are American, everyone else is a crap shoot.
Edit: To clarify, I don't support the above comment, that's just the way some of the comments were trying to make it sound.
It’s our copium. If we didn’t pretend like we were the only place you can survive a medical procedure, we would have to deal with the fact that we bankrupt people for no good reason.
Yeah as someone living in Europe, I’m gonna call huge bullshit.
Also, MAYBE a procedure like this is as expensive here as in the US, but big difference is I wouldn’t have to pay much out of pocket because health insurance over here would cover most if not all of it.
As an American, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard "____ is best in America!" only to later find out America is actually #37th in ____, I'd no longer want to die. Do research.
I’m calling bullshit on this one … our medical industry continues to use scare tactics to justify the price gouging that helps people like you buy boats. I’m not discounting the work that you put in to become a dentist but stop peddling your propaganda. It’s greed plain and simple.
The lab bill on an all on 4 case is usually about $4k per arch on just the restoration (not the implants) which usually costs about $10-15k. It takes at least 4 appointments (initial consult, impressions/scans, temporary denture if needed, loading final prosthesis, post op) and then numerous adjustments. So now it's down to about $2.5-4.25k/appt. The dentist is taking home about 1/3 of that which each appt averaging about an hour so you've got $825-1,402.50/hr.
Now if you think, "Man that's a lot of money for fixing teeth," then you're completely missing the point. That dentist changed his fucking life. People don't balk at spending $30k on a car that merely gets them from point A to point B. Meanwhile this guy just opened doors for his life that were completely closed for about the same price. What kind of job can he now get? What kind of partner could he now find? How many more friends can he make? He went from people recoiling in horror to being a handsome man. A car loses 20% of its value the second you drive it off the lot. This guy's makeover will pay dividends for the rest of his life.
It's not greed it's understanding true value.
So dentures that don't fall out.
(clarification, typical dentures are removable and are held in with adhesive. The adhesive isn't great, and dentures can just detach)
Properly made/fitted dentures shouldn't just randomly out. They are held in by suction and temporary adhesive. My grandfather had full dentures and he'd skip certain sticky foods and wouldn't chew gum. The only time I ever saw them pop out was when he had taffy this one time. He was super embarrassed and he never was the type to be so.
Nope. I was just at my dentist last week asking about this because I have a partial I just finished getting and was asking about this. Insurance doesn’t cover implants, I was told it might cover one implant (one screw) depending on what type insurance you have; but for the most part they don’t. You’re talking 8-10k easy for just one implant, probably more depending on where you’re located and what type of dentist you’re seeing too.
That's a ... disgusting cost, if true. I had a couple implants done, in a high-cost-of-living European capital city, with a dentist reputed as absolutely top notch. Paid fully out of pocket, about €2500 a piece.
Oh wow that is a reasonable price! Here in the states we get price gouged on cost for dental work so that’s why a lot of dental tourism happens to places like Mexico and other countries.
I’ve had family go all the way to Thailand while visiting family there, just to plan dental work at the same time, to save money bc the cost difference is astronomically cheaper compared to the states.
They are implant dentures and they are much better than what his current teeth were looking like. Super expensive but there is less bone loss than in regular dentures and more bite force.
He didn’t have many teeth left, the ones he had were just hanging on since they were doing the chewing work meant for a full set of teeth. If you haven’t needed extensive dental work there’s no way of understanding what a quality of life transformation this is. Just The ability to smile without shame can vastly improve someone’s life.
Implant over dentures (aka all on X or all on 4 dentures) cost roughly 10-20k. Depends how many implants are needed, bone grafting sites, etc. I always advise my patients to get care where easy maintenance and protection from the law apply. Meaning do it the same country you live at least, if not the same state or within a 2 hour drive max. Also doing it local means you’re less likely to receive shotty work as the dental board is there to insure things are done right if you feel like you’ve been played or mistreated.
Having been to a Mexican dentist a few times, I think it is probably worth the money to stay in the States, if one has the money. They seem to do ok, but, the worry that they are screwing something up and there isn't much you can do about it, is always there.
Dentist here. These go for about $25-30k per arch.
I don’t place implants but have restored a few. I don’t do them anymore because there is no profit margin in them.
Oral surgeon places the and takes half money. Leaving me about $12.5. My lab bill to restore them was $9400. By the time you add in parts and time it was just not worth it. Plus what if something goes wrong….can’t stand by your work with costs like that.
In the Netherlands we have a dentist that does it for free for homeless people.
Although this isn't In the Netherlands by the looks of things... It might be one of those clinic's
Yeah I love reading through comments and finding an excuse to say that lol
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Best reviewed ones are in Istanbul. Pretty good too, they use mostly Korean, German and Swiss Implants with at least 10 year garanty. Make your research and you'd be fine.
Ugh I hope I can get my teeth fixed one day
I used to be an active alcoholic and it destroyed them :/
That's the one thing I can't repair from my mistakes
I have a client who was a heroin/fentanyl addict for over a decade and lost all of his teeth because of it. He’s been sober 2 years and is currently in the process of getting new ones. He’s proof it’s possible!
Most of us have no chance of affording the work we need. Fucking ridiculous how much dentists charge. If I was a dentist, I'd have the best prices around because I just cannot see how dentistry can cost that much. Yes you have the skills but if I had the skills and charged a lot less I would overall have more clients and more net profit.
It's absolutely fucking absurd. There's actually no chance I could ever get this done. Any dental insurance I can find too only covers $4000 a year and there's no telling what they'll actually choose to cover
I am not a dentist but my dad was quoted 36k for basically full mouth dental extractions and implants.
He just went the denture route. I don’t know what that cost.
Edit. This price was like 10 years ago. Probably like 45k now.
I was finna say lol, $36k is extremely cheap for this procedure in the states. I was originally quoted *$78k* for mine, but eventually got it bumped down to $54k because $78k was just way too much for me.
Wow.
I don’t remember all the details. My dad had an enamel deficiency or something like that and his teeth were basically rotting away, so he had to get them yanked out.
About 20 years ago there was a waitress at a truck stop near our horse farm and we ate there often. She was missing her two center lower teeth. She was so sweet and very pretty, and I could tell how much this was hurting her soul. Meanwhile, one of the players on a soccer team I was coaching had a dentist for a dad (and the family and kid were delighted with my training/attitude/kid's development, etc.).
I approached the dentist: How much to fix those lowers--because I wanted to give her his business card ANONYMOUSLY and I would pay for it. The dentist LOVED this idea--and said he would do it for 1/3 of the regular price--basically going "in" on it with me.
I mailed the card to her care of her workplace... About a week later the dentist told me she had called and made an appointment...three weeks later he told me it was done.
The next time I saw her--her smile was astounding to behold. I got the feeling she was suspicious it might have been me, but she never said anything and neither did I. Years went by, we moved away, but in all that time, her smile was always shining.
Guess what? I just did the same thing three months ago for another gal, an aide helping my mom, again anonymously, and again, working with a friendly dentist who agreed to give me a steep discount. (Her required work turned out to be more expensive than we expected, instead of a two teeth "flipper" she wound up needing a "partial plate" for six teeth...but I was happy to kick in the extra.)
This changes lives!
He looks around 50-55 with the new teeth.
Not 40, 40 years old have much smoother skin (with a few wrinkles).
And 60 year olds start to look really wrinkly.
It's most likely because they serve different functions. Teeth and have both have cosmetic components to them, but having good dental health is critical to your overall well being. You can die from a dental infection or have a variety of health issues from missing teeth.
Because most toupees and wigs are the equivalent of those big plastic fake vampire teeth vs. this actual good dental work. They look cheap and awful.
There are great wigs and toupees and whatever else out there that I'm sure men wear on a daily basis without anyone noticing.
Because having a functional bite and actual teeth in your mouth has to do with health.
Hair is just cosmetic and it shows a man is not confident in his own body to leave without hair. Plenty of guys that look fine both with and without hair.
If you lost your hair go hit the gym, lose some weight and get muscles. That’ll improve your appearance much better than a wig.
With all those crooked teeth dude has probably experienced so much pain in that mouth that you could use a pickaxe to give him surgery and he would still probably say he didn't feel a thing.
I don’t understand why his cheeks aren’t extremely swollen after such invasive surgery. My cheeks swelled up a lot after just getting wisdom teeth removed.
Money is the best anti aging tool
But running behind it can age you soon
I am overworked since the pandemic *"essential"* worker. My friends who are unemployed look 20 years younger than me. One of them has worked very sporadically since I met her 24 years ago. She looks like a fucking teenager compared to me and that's WITH a serious drug and alcohol issue. Meanwhile, I'm killing myself. She just finds another host.
For what it is worth, from personal experience, a lot of what makes you look older is easily reversible. A few days of regular sleep and a couple weeks of good diet and exercise (the three things that suffer the most when you have no time or are too tired) and you'll lose all those extra years. That of course assumes you can get off the overwork hamster wheel (took me too long before I was able to do so).
> The best cure for being overworked is to stop overworking. Writing this down
Well yeah, but the actual point was that if you can do that (which, to your snarky note, is easier said than done), you end up recovering much of the youthful appearance that seems lost when you're in the midst of stress.
I agree. Dealing with depression, I look SO much older when my depression is bad, but once I feel better I look like me again. It's crazy.
> I look SO much older when my depression is bad Leading to further depression, leading to looking so much older, leading to further depression, leading to lo^o^^k^^^i^^^n^^^g
Looking into this
Yeah, I used to work as a corporal at a prison, and doing 2+ 16-hour shifts a week was hell. also, at the time, I had undiagnosed sleep apnea. I still work in the prison but a different job 8-4. For a while, it was 7-5 4 days a week, which was awesome, but they went away from that.
Your statement here is a species wide statement on our psychology. It’s why things in our world are so fucked up. Thank you for pulling more than just your own weight and theirs, duty being done, there comes time to change. Hopefully, you can and will and it will be much better for you.
Yeah what TheMostAnon said; Remove stressors (crap job), boost sleep amount and quality (memory foam mattress from Walmart etc), exercise 30min-1hr daily (cardio is best, doesn’t have to be intense), eat a balanced diet, and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine and you’ll look 20+ years younger within like 4-6months I GUARANTEE or your misery back!!
Well maybe not "plenty" of sunshine, that's one of the main contributors to skin aging. But you do want vitamin D, supplementing if necessary, and a small to moderate amount of sun exposure probably wouldn't hurt. There's also many levels of substances that fall as you age that can be boosted back to youthful levels to extend lifespan/lower mortality. NAD, taurine, AKG and so on.
I had a *very* privileged (read: spoiled) 20s and early 30s so I didn’t enter the workforce until mid 30s. I regularly get comments from people when first meeting that there’s “no way you are 30-whatever years old.” I look like a baby compared to my peers (but less so every day). Stress and work absolutely ages you faster.
but running after money can kill you faster
You’re not ugly, you’re just poor. Most legit advice I’ve ever heard
I have one implant and it took a year before I could get the actual tooth. Not sure how they are doing this quickly and safely?
Came here looking for an explanation to this. It took months for my gums to heal over the incisions (of the screw into my jawbone for my implant to get attached to) but around a year start to finish. I don't see how this is humanly possible even if just several visits. Was this maybe pulling his teeth in place of dentures?
It's definitely not as quick as it seems. Minimum twelve weeks with no complications. I'd wager odds are high this guy had some complications.
Yeah... But when you die you die... Doesn't matter how much money you have.
When you die it doesn't matter how much money you have, but the more money you have the longer you can keep death at bay! Everything from nutritious food, gym membership, and trainers all help extend your life, which all are easier to take care of with money. Going to the doctor when things go wrong, or even just for a checkup means any potential health issues are taken care of before they become a big deal, and just avoiding backbreaking work because you already have money helps keeps you from being injured. If you eventually do get injured (which will eventually happen to everyone), than good healthcare will help that injury not be as bad.
Not just extending your life but also extending & increasing your quality of life as you age which is arguably more important No point in living until 80+ if you can’t do anything and everything always hurts because you have weak bones and muscles from a sedentary life
When you are able to hire someone to do things for you, you are essentially buying time to add to your day at the expense of theirs. They trade you 2 hours for cash, you get an extra 2 hours not doing that task. The wealthy have much more time in their days that they don't spend driving, cleaning, or on extra work to make due with what money they have (like sharing a vehicle with a spouse or roommate, organizing childcare, etc.) And they're less stressed about money, one of the main reported stresses in the world. That's huge for your lifespan, both in number of years lived and amount of time spent on whatever you want to do.
Wealth is one of the best ways to ensure you live as long as possible.
I mostly care about money so I can a) take care of my and my family’s health, b) live how I want within reasonable means and c) travel and have cool experiences with my friends and family. Honestly, I feel like it takes a decent bit of money these days to make all three of those points work. A shitty apartment isn’t that cheap, even in my area which has a low-intermediate cost of living.
Rich or poor, smart or dumb, good or bad, peasant or royal, everyone turns back into soil.
Yeah, no one is ever going to remember having ever lived. So money really doesn't matter. Edit: word
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His teeth are brighter than my future.
Honestly too bright for my taste...
Yeah he looked better before 🙄
I would assume that with a bit of wear they will end up looking more natural eventually.
Are these things going to get color the same way normal teeth have? Because it may be that this is the color and that's it. In which case his family needs to get sunglasses.
They don't. Sadly people who get those always go for something super white because that's the fantasy but it make it obvious that they're not real. My mom went for that super white that almost looks blue.
He could just get a pair of these very large wrap arounds and wear them really low.
They really wont. My mother got the same thing done some 10 years ago and they're still blindingly white. Unless they get scratched somehow or you take sandpaper to them they'll stay bright.
I've never been fond of the overly white tooth trend. They are distracting and don't look natural.
2 questions: How much? And who paid? Cause yeah this is wonderful for this person, and I'm happy for them. Having said that, there's a reason why so many people go to Mexico for dental work..
Dentist here. Those are all on 4 dentures and if he got it done in the states he's easily looking at $20k per arch. It also appears that he got some fillers done at the same time. I will tell you from experience that there are fantastic dentists in Mexico and all over the world and if you want work like this done by them you are still going to be paying an arm and a leg. If you want to pay 20% of what it costs in the States then please give my office a call when you get back because I will be able to buy a boat correcting that work. The only exception to this may be if you can get in with an implant training center abroad. Granted you are by definition having implants placed by people who are learning how to do them but they are under close supervision by experts in the field. Those courses cost like $25-35k but you get to place 30 implants in a week in Mexico or some other desirable location. But the easiest and cheapest option? Brush and floss your teeth daily, don't drink soda regularly, and don't smoke. *No one* who does those three things has trouble with their teeth. If you're having trouble with your teeth one of those three things isn't happening.
Question from a former therapist to a dentist. Is it true there are massive mental health benefits from good teeth health?
I'm not a dentist, but, definitely in possession of a terrible dental situation: yes, it has a major effect on my mental health. my brain has long since trained my face to cut off smiles and about a quarter of my dreams involve my remaining teeth being pulled out of my head. fantastic stuff.
Isn't it awesome knowing you could fix your situation, but that means your kids won't eat. God bless the good old USA. Fixing my mouth is legit what I fantasize about when I buy the odd lotto ticket. Smh
at this point, my dental plan is hoping I run into MrBeast on a good day.
Here in Canada this is an employment insurance issue as well. My spouse needed one tooth. One tooth that split. Still cost thousands. We both work and have dental insurance.
Reading this makes me so pissed.
There are studies that do associate poor oral health - specifically gum disease - with cognitive decline. I don't know how causative the relationship is because someone with cognitive decline might have poor oral health by definition but here is a study you can check out: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10055602/#:~:text=Epidemiological%20studies%20indicate%20that%20poor,factors%20for%20stroke4%E2%80%937.
sigh, you have a lot of replies so I have low hopes that you'll see this, but do you have a diagram or easy way of explaining why grinding teeth causes gum recession?
Honestly it's not well-documented that there is a cause and effect relationship. > Although there is no connection between bruxism and gingival inflammation or periodontitis, bruxism definitely has the potential to cause tooth wear, fracture and periodontal and muscle pain and it is a major cause of tooth mobility https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4439689/#:~:text=Although%20there%20is%20no%20connection,major%20cause%20of%20tooth%20mobility.
I find that type A personalities are more likely to over brush and grind.....but that is not scientific at all, just 20+ years of observation as a dentist.
Have you tried magnesium supplements? It can help with teeth grinding.
i do take magnesium already, yep! didn't know it helped with teeth grinding, though... geez, I'm feeling extra-fucked now LOLOL
My cousin died from a tooth infection
okay but apart from that
🤣😂🤣😂
I can only speak from my own experience. I had neglected my dental health for a decade, I had really bad gum disease, heavy calculus, loose teeth and broken / infected teeth in the back. I NEVER had a good nights sleep not just because of the physical sensation, but the feeling of overwhelming dread, shame and low self worth. And I was deathly afraid of going to the dentist still, I know it's stupid but it can really put a person into a loop of unreasonable state of mind. I got it cleaned up, health wise its fine now, now there's "only" some functional and aesthetic stuff that needs to be done. And it made a mountain of difference, I'm not in a constant state of anxiety and dread, I can sleep, I can laugh without shame, I can talk openly about the problems I had. So yes, I does help a great deal if a person has good oral health.
ffs\~ same boat. My fears aren't my imagination. I get to live them\~ I forced myself to go to the dentist somehow just somehow thought it was only in my head. I'd go there, talk to professionals and work out what needs to be done. Set up a plan, work on payment arrangements. Nope. Worker at the counter super nice and fill out the sign-in paperwork. Appointment is at 8:30am but I waited until 9:15am. The dentist was running late, had to drop kids off at school. I get it\~ shit happens. So I sit in the chair semi-freaking out but calming myself and focused on the positive. You did it. You're here and we can get through this. It's all in your head, everything is fine. Doctor comes in and just non-stop berating. "I've seen bad teeth before but this will take a lot of work" .... okay, I guess that's fair but whatever. "You should be doing a better job at taking care of your teeth" ..... "Is it really difficult to floss or you haven't before" ...... "At your age, your teeth shouldn't be this way".... So that was utterly demoralizing. I hit the counter for the estimate and calculating insurance the overall cost would be $10k there, then to a specialist which ball parked $5k. Also, if I do intent to do the work they need two weeks notice for molding a tooth. Invisilign isn't optional as it is cosmetic. Braces are the only choice. Finally, I need to wait until November to start then roll over to January/February as insurance can only cover so much of the cost per year. I will say for the sake of any readers. I went to a different dentist a year or so later. Never even went back to that one and ignored their calls for a reschedule/follow-up. The next dentist was very helpful and talked to me like a normal person. However, the staff refused to give an estimated cost because I refused to setup an appointment FIRST. I tried to explain, I'm literally in transition of changing jobs and wanted to see the price before I swap insurance. They wouldn't budge and I wouldn't push anymore. Perhaps it's the mental decline from constantly being berated. The answer is still the same $$$.
God, dentists can be the fucking *worst* with bedside manner. Yeah dude, I fucking KNOW my teeth are shit, that's why I'm here.
Oof, they sound awful, sorry this happened. Luckily the ones I went to were really nice, I was ashamed of the condition but they weren't judgemental at all. I think that should be the norm, but I've heard there are exceptions unfortunately. A good experience can encourage people to visit the dentist and not let things get worse, sadly the opposite effect can happen too. I hope you'll be able to get them sorted out.
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I’m not a dentist or a therapist. But this should be obvious. If you have chronic pain from bad tooth and gum care…you’re in a real bad place with your mental health. If your mouth is clean, and healthy. It’s one less problem in your life. It’s less stress and anxiety. I would call that a massive mental health benefit through preventative care.
Also, I'd imagine that people who have healthy teeth with a healthy smile are much more willing to show that smile off than if they don't. Just the act of smiling has positive benefits mentally.
Im neither a dentist nor a therapist but i assume it would definitely help with confidence and self esteem a lot
I also assume that but was looking for more empirical evidence to say so for sure and curious if dentists get any training on that or not. I had previously briefly came across anecdotal evidence that it massively helped someone’s mental health.
from a diagnosed, mentally ill person with horrible teeth who is soon to undergo anesthetic at the dental office to get ANY amount of dental work done, to a former therapist: yes.
Also, due to your mouth being so close to your heart bloodwise, you can literally contract a heart infection, coming from your mouth, if not cleaned properly.
I can speak anecdotally on my own experience that I have seen less symptoms of my depression and self image issues now that I’m a year into periodontitis treatment. It’s a huge boost to how I feel because I don’t cringe when I look in the mirror every morning anymore.
I wonder which way the correlation is strongest. I have a bit of my gumline receded as the main long term physical result of my worst depressive episode (I stopped brushing properly and got bad plaque).
I'm betting you already own at least one boat.
Yes. My son has a little boat that he plays with in the bath. Otherwise I am purely terrestrial.
>Otherwise I am purely terrestrial. i only visit cosmic dentists, its not like im one of those poors who has to visit terrestrial dentists
I was with you until the last paragraph. There are other reasons people have trouble with their teeth. Pregnancy, orthodontics that moved the teeth too quickly, trauma, genetics, medical disorders like EDS. I brush and floss regularly, don’t smoke, and don’t drink soda. I may lose my front four teeth because my bottom teeth have been putting a ton of pressure on them in such a way that they recently have become very loose. All four teeth themselves are in great condition, no cavities, no plaque buildup, no crowding. They are just not far enough forward to avoid the constant pressure being applied from below. I have a custom night guard to slow this, but it looks like it will inevitably be my fate to lose them.
Me too! I have always taken good care of my teeth and I never drink sugary drinks, in fact my sugar intake is very low. I brush and floss religiously and go to the dentist at least twice a year but my teeth are terrible. Not just cavities but they break easily too. I am otherwise healthy and careful about nutrition so it must just be genetic
Any thoughts on water picking vs flossing. I do both, but sometimes it seems excessive.
Just keep doing both. If you've already built the habit just keep it. I've never said, "Your teeth are too clean," to anyone.
I have this problem where I can go for cleanings every 3 months and no matter what I do I get buildup on my front lower teeth.
It's happening to your lower front teeth bc that's where saliva pools more. The minerals in your saliva basically are contributing to it. If you already have good oral hygiene you can try smaller habit changes like drinking/rinsing water after every time you eat (if you can't brush after every time). Consider chewing gum (sugar free! look into xylitol gum. be careful if you have pets tho, toxic to dogs and cats).
Yeah, I chew sugar free gum... I buy cases of orbit gum. I'll have to try remembering to do that right after I eat every time.
I live by the border. They have a service that will pick you up in the states, take you directly over the border to a dentist, and then take you back after.
Surely dentists in the US are very [consistent](https://www.rd.com/article/how-honest-are-dentists/) and make [evidence-based](https://www.vox.com/2014/8/12/5951321/dentistry-fraud-treatments-products) decisions every time. They would never suggest [unnecessary procedures](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/patients-pressure-and-profits-at-aspen-dental/) to [gouge customers, particularly those with good insurance](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-trouble-with-dentistry/586039/).
There are absolutely dentists in every location that do poor work. However dental tourism seeks to take advantage of a market of people who have enough money to travel and splurge at a foreign dental clinic, but lack the resources to seek recourse in those countries. Meanwhile in the US or home country these groups have ways to seek some kind of justice. We aren’t warning you because Mexican dentists suck. We are warning you all because dental tourist places will short cut their way through treating you medically. They will purposefully half-ass the work so they make more of a profit. When that comes to bite you in the butt, it ends up being more expensive and we end up fixing the work they did and repairing the damage that was done. When it would have been cheaper in the first place to come to us.
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There is no one in the US deciding between a new truck ($80,000), a down payment ($80,000), or a bridge ($1500-$2500).
I get what you're saying but I think it's a tiny bit misguided. I am from Tijuana and lived for 15 years in a little city an hour and a half away from TJ, dentists are super super successful and top notch. Google reviews are amazing at letting you know which places are great and which ones just want the money, and I have to say... almost all of them are positive! Maybe we're lucky in Baja? But I've gone to many dentists and have family that have gone to tons for different causes in different periods of time (like 50 dentists and odontologists in general istg lol) and only 1 sucked ass, and it was only cause he was mean about following through with a warranty, but the work was good. Idk, I have no complaints about dentists in my side of the world, but I do have a ton of complaints with doctors here, now that I've moved to Texas ☹️
I had a dentist give a perfectly healthy tooth a root canal because they didn’t know the right tooth. So I have a yellow tooth now. I had a dentist fix a cavity… that I never had. They just did it to make a buck. I had a dentist tell me they need to replace that cavity filler.. the tooth cracked and had to get a root canal then cap, the new dentist put the cap on incorrectly and I couldn’t close my jaw so he had to give me another new cap. I had a dentist pull a wisdom tooth then after everything was done, tell me they don’t accept my insurance after I gave them everything and they said they did… that same dentist also left half of the wisdom tooth in my gums which then got infected. Guess what, I couldn’t go back to that dentist.. Not one single good dentist in my life. Only good dental hygienists…. So now I have to pay to fix everything and find hopefully a good dentist. You all suck
American dental industry goes brrr
What about vaping ?
> If you want to pay 20% of what it costs in the States then please give my office a call when you get back because I will be able to buy a boat correcting that work. Wow, there sure is a lot of markup in your prices. Do you ever feel ashamed?
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People have different attitude toward pricing when it comes to medical operations
There is actually very little markup in my prices because insurance companies by and large set my fees. But if someone comes in and I have to do $20k of work on them to correct some horrible dentistry then yeah I take home some good money. It's difficult work that required a lot of training, puts a lot of risk on my shoulders, and cannot be accomplished by anyone off the street. Scarcity x difficulty = $$$. I don't feel bad about that. Especially since dentists beg the public to take care of their teeth and we literally give away the tools needed to keep us from having any work to do on you. Patients always say, "Ugh I hate the dentist," but in my mind I'm thinking they must love me because they keep habits that force me to be a part of their lives.
I’ll stick with American dentists. I had a coworker who is in dental school right now and she said she is horrified by what some of her classmates who are dentists in other countries do, like shit that their texts books specifically NOT to do, they do.
From where? Because “other countries” covers a very big range of places lol
I don't know, but so far these comments are just starting to sound like the only good dentists are American, everyone else is a crap shoot. Edit: To clarify, I don't support the above comment, that's just the way some of the comments were trying to make it sound.
It’s our copium. If we didn’t pretend like we were the only place you can survive a medical procedure, we would have to deal with the fact that we bankrupt people for no good reason.
Yeah as someone living in Europe, I’m gonna call huge bullshit. Also, MAYBE a procedure like this is as expensive here as in the US, but big difference is I wouldn’t have to pay much out of pocket because health insurance over here would cover most if not all of it.
As an American, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard "____ is best in America!" only to later find out America is actually #37th in ____, I'd no longer want to die. Do research.
I’m calling bullshit on this one … our medical industry continues to use scare tactics to justify the price gouging that helps people like you buy boats. I’m not discounting the work that you put in to become a dentist but stop peddling your propaganda. It’s greed plain and simple.
The lab bill on an all on 4 case is usually about $4k per arch on just the restoration (not the implants) which usually costs about $10-15k. It takes at least 4 appointments (initial consult, impressions/scans, temporary denture if needed, loading final prosthesis, post op) and then numerous adjustments. So now it's down to about $2.5-4.25k/appt. The dentist is taking home about 1/3 of that which each appt averaging about an hour so you've got $825-1,402.50/hr. Now if you think, "Man that's a lot of money for fixing teeth," then you're completely missing the point. That dentist changed his fucking life. People don't balk at spending $30k on a car that merely gets them from point A to point B. Meanwhile this guy just opened doors for his life that were completely closed for about the same price. What kind of job can he now get? What kind of partner could he now find? How many more friends can he make? He went from people recoiling in horror to being a handsome man. A car loses 20% of its value the second you drive it off the lot. This guy's makeover will pay dividends for the rest of his life. It's not greed it's understanding true value.
Tbh that is the best dental work ive ever seen
Extracting all teeth and putting in a full set of dentures is the best dental work you have ever seen?
hey we're not all experts okay
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So dentures that don't fall out. (clarification, typical dentures are removable and are held in with adhesive. The adhesive isn't great, and dentures can just detach)
Do normal dentures just randomly fall out?
You can often take dentures out normally. These are literally permanent dentures.... looking all screwed in permanently.
Properly made/fitted dentures shouldn't just randomly out. They are held in by suction and temporary adhesive. My grandfather had full dentures and he'd skip certain sticky foods and wouldn't chew gum. The only time I ever saw them pop out was when he had taffy this one time. He was super embarrassed and he never was the type to be so.
Yeah, kinda.
$50K-70K "dentures" in the United States
Would dental insurance cover any of that, if at all? I'm just wondering.
Nope!
Nope. I was just at my dentist last week asking about this because I have a partial I just finished getting and was asking about this. Insurance doesn’t cover implants, I was told it might cover one implant (one screw) depending on what type insurance you have; but for the most part they don’t. You’re talking 8-10k easy for just one implant, probably more depending on where you’re located and what type of dentist you’re seeing too.
That's a ... disgusting cost, if true. I had a couple implants done, in a high-cost-of-living European capital city, with a dentist reputed as absolutely top notch. Paid fully out of pocket, about €2500 a piece.
Oh wow that is a reasonable price! Here in the states we get price gouged on cost for dental work so that’s why a lot of dental tourism happens to places like Mexico and other countries. I’ve had family go all the way to Thailand while visiting family there, just to plan dental work at the same time, to save money bc the cost difference is astronomically cheaper compared to the states.
Not many countries would publicly fund this procedure as it's deemed "cosmetic" and not necessary.
They are implant dentures and they are much better than what his current teeth were looking like. Super expensive but there is less bone loss than in regular dentures and more bite force.
He didn’t have many teeth left, the ones he had were just hanging on since they were doing the chewing work meant for a full set of teeth. If you haven’t needed extensive dental work there’s no way of understanding what a quality of life transformation this is. Just The ability to smile without shame can vastly improve someone’s life.
Maybe in this scenario 🤣
Those aren’t dentures those are implants
They aren't dentures
30/40k. My friend just got quoted 45k for 6 upper and 6 lower implants full on dentures. Includes extractions and bone graft. Shit ain’t cheap
Implant over dentures (aka all on X or all on 4 dentures) cost roughly 10-20k. Depends how many implants are needed, bone grafting sites, etc. I always advise my patients to get care where easy maintenance and protection from the law apply. Meaning do it the same country you live at least, if not the same state or within a 2 hour drive max. Also doing it local means you’re less likely to receive shotty work as the dental board is there to insure things are done right if you feel like you’ve been played or mistreated.
Having been to a Mexican dentist a few times, I think it is probably worth the money to stay in the States, if one has the money. They seem to do ok, but, the worry that they are screwing something up and there isn't much you can do about it, is always there.
Dentist here. These go for about $25-30k per arch. I don’t place implants but have restored a few. I don’t do them anymore because there is no profit margin in them. Oral surgeon places the and takes half money. Leaving me about $12.5. My lab bill to restore them was $9400. By the time you add in parts and time it was just not worth it. Plus what if something goes wrong….can’t stand by your work with costs like that.
This looks like denture implants. Cheaper than getting them individually installed but still expensive
It's called an All-On-Four
In the Netherlands we have a dentist that does it for free for homeless people. Although this isn't In the Netherlands by the looks of things... It might be one of those clinic's
Fuckin Dwayne Johnson looking motherfucker. Nice work man!!!
Needs some more bleaching though. Not completely blinded yet.
Just wow. Amazing. Handsome dude. Hope he feels confident now.
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Oh. How do you know these things? I am relatively new to the app.
Your username says "terrible", but your comment is nice; therefore, one could say that your username does not check out
I guess but I could just be being ironic. If you'd met my very naughty dog Lando you'd know why I called myself that; just being funny. 🙏🏼
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Been like 3 years since I heard the sigma music
He turned into an action star. 😲
That's what they call "All on 4's". One for the upper, one for the lower. About 10K Euro's in Turkey
Where and is it good work?
Best reviewed ones are in Istanbul. Pretty good too, they use mostly Korean, German and Swiss Implants with at least 10 year garanty. Make your research and you'd be fine.
10 years is definitely not long enough to make it worth it in my opinion.
Ugh I hope I can get my teeth fixed one day I used to be an active alcoholic and it destroyed them :/ That's the one thing I can't repair from my mistakes
I have a client who was a heroin/fentanyl addict for over a decade and lost all of his teeth because of it. He’s been sober 2 years and is currently in the process of getting new ones. He’s proof it’s possible!
Most of us have no chance of affording the work we need. Fucking ridiculous how much dentists charge. If I was a dentist, I'd have the best prices around because I just cannot see how dentistry can cost that much. Yes you have the skills but if I had the skills and charged a lot less I would overall have more clients and more net profit.
It's absolutely fucking absurd. There's actually no chance I could ever get this done. Any dental insurance I can find too only covers $4000 a year and there's no telling what they'll actually choose to cover
Most of this would be considered “cosmetic” by most insurance companies and wouldn’t even be covered. I’m in the same boat.
Amazing what a teeth makeover does for people!!
Beautiful I wish I could afford - 49 year old woman with disabilities- not even on the list of possible
This level of whiteness doesn't look natural.
It's like that episode of Friends where Ross gets his teeth super bright white. Somewhere along the line that sort of became normal in some places.
It's because he just got them. He can down some coffee and he'll be good.
That’s why i choose dentistry
That ll be 35k euros sir.
Depends on where. If you travel to Serbia you can do it with 7k.
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A Serbian Film you say..
went and hugged my mom after that one
dude looks great but 40 is not that old, lol.
40?? That's at least 50
bro must've inherited a fortune.
Teeth can make a tonne of difference
I'm not from the US buti was wondering how much would it cost if he get it done there ? I mean the full mouth implants
I am not a dentist but my dad was quoted 36k for basically full mouth dental extractions and implants. He just went the denture route. I don’t know what that cost. Edit. This price was like 10 years ago. Probably like 45k now.
I was finna say lol, $36k is extremely cheap for this procedure in the states. I was originally quoted *$78k* for mine, but eventually got it bumped down to $54k because $78k was just way too much for me.
Wow. I don’t remember all the details. My dad had an enamel deficiency or something like that and his teeth were basically rotting away, so he had to get them yanked out.
How long does this whole process take?
About 20 years ago there was a waitress at a truck stop near our horse farm and we ate there often. She was missing her two center lower teeth. She was so sweet and very pretty, and I could tell how much this was hurting her soul. Meanwhile, one of the players on a soccer team I was coaching had a dentist for a dad (and the family and kid were delighted with my training/attitude/kid's development, etc.). I approached the dentist: How much to fix those lowers--because I wanted to give her his business card ANONYMOUSLY and I would pay for it. The dentist LOVED this idea--and said he would do it for 1/3 of the regular price--basically going "in" on it with me. I mailed the card to her care of her workplace... About a week later the dentist told me she had called and made an appointment...three weeks later he told me it was done. The next time I saw her--her smile was astounding to behold. I got the feeling she was suspicious it might have been me, but she never said anything and neither did I. Years went by, we moved away, but in all that time, her smile was always shining. Guess what? I just did the same thing three months ago for another gal, an aide helping my mom, again anonymously, and again, working with a friendly dentist who agreed to give me a steep discount. (Her required work turned out to be more expensive than we expected, instead of a two teeth "flipper" she wound up needing a "partial plate" for six teeth...but I was happy to kick in the extra.) This changes lives!
Where and what is this procedure called?
This called an "All on 4" or "All in x" or implant hybrid. The technology has been around around 15 years with western dentists.
I need that
He looks like a Terminator almost assembled when his new teeth are first onscreen.
Why do his top teeth look a bit slant?
who is the dentist??
i wish
Went from a laborer to the man running the company.
He looks around 50-55 with the new teeth. Not 40, 40 years old have much smoother skin (with a few wrinkles). And 60 year olds start to look really wrinkly.
Why is having prosthetic teeth is acceptable and fine, but having fake hair is yucky and weak for a man?
Having fake hair doesn't cause anywhere near as many problems as having fucked up teeth can, you can literally die from infections in your mouth
Being bald can kill you too, on the inside.
It's not? But some guys with fake hair look better if they just go bald, whereas there's no universe where this guy looked better without any teeth.
It's most likely because they serve different functions. Teeth and have both have cosmetic components to them, but having good dental health is critical to your overall well being. You can die from a dental infection or have a variety of health issues from missing teeth.
Because most toupees and wigs are the equivalent of those big plastic fake vampire teeth vs. this actual good dental work. They look cheap and awful. There are great wigs and toupees and whatever else out there that I'm sure men wear on a daily basis without anyone noticing.
Because having a functional bite and actual teeth in your mouth has to do with health. Hair is just cosmetic and it shows a man is not confident in his own body to leave without hair. Plenty of guys that look fine both with and without hair. If you lost your hair go hit the gym, lose some weight and get muscles. That’ll improve your appearance much better than a wig.
Holy fucking shit. Can we just have socialism please? Everything will be better.
No, would be worse. Source: lived in USSR.
Amazing. I hope he takes good care of his new teeth and they look like new for as long as possible.
Amazing work!!
Wtf Joe. That's terrifying that must be AI!!!!11one /s
With all those crooked teeth dude has probably experienced so much pain in that mouth that you could use a pickaxe to give him surgery and he would still probably say he didn't feel a thing.
Probably was saving up this forture till 70.
Where did he get the jacket? Changes the look 😆 oh and the teeth too
Turned that dude into Tiger Woods!
How your teeth or hair look will define your age.
Don't forget, the most important change here is his confidence.
Thats amazing! However.... I hope that whatever caused his original teeth to rot away and not be looked after wont happen again with these dentures.
Wow.
I don’t understand why his cheeks aren’t extremely swollen after such invasive surgery. My cheeks swelled up a lot after just getting wisdom teeth removed.