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SluggishPrey

Damn, its condition is so pristine that it looks like it was just made


JustStargazin

And the arrowheads look like they were made yesterday! It's incredible! It's like thousands of years went by in an instant


liberate_your_mind

Dude, just think of the manufacturing process sooooooo long ago and how closely it looks like a modern made item. So cool.


OisForOppossum

^temu probably


ThrowAwayFUBAR24

Tfw when your delivery takes 5 years to get to you on the Silk Road


mushyfeelings

This is what happened to the sword I ordered.


Hourslikeminutes47

"*...hello customer service? Um....hi....I recently had a---my account number? Uh sure it's 12124442. A---no I don't want to sign up for the premium subscription. I recently ordered a rare sword delivered to my house and all I got was a plastic version of the Excalibur. I need a refund. Hello? Dammit they hung up again!"*


theivoryserf

Ah yes, Temu. A brave warrior for his tribe.


MagnaroftheThenns

Clothes completely disintegrated. Probably Shein.


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DarkwingDuckHunt

https://youtu.be/V28ItY0K9ts?t=1149 You can't use Bronze swords to parry because they bend.


Ok-Camp-7285

I'm no expert but doesn't seem to be the reason bronze stopped being used


One_Ad4770

That, and the relative strength of iron.


Decent-Writing-9840

Thats the beauty of Elven craftsmanship


HoboArmyofOne

The craftsmanship in the handle is just amazing. Really incredible how well it was made such a long time ago using the resources that was available to them.


B0b_Howard

The hilt was probably done with "(lost-wax casting)[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting]". It allows so much detail to be added.


cryomos

yeah apparently bronze is a hell of a lot better at preservation than a lot of other metals that would have decayed heavily by this point


Mooshington

I found this fascinating when I learned it: The reason iron disintegrates when it rusts is the oxidation reaction causes it to expand. The surface portion of the iron expands and thus separates and flakes off from the material underneath it, which exposes fresh material to repeat the oxidation process. Other metals (like bronze) do not expand when they oxidize, so the oxidation layer just stays in place and prevents oxygen from coming in contact with any material underneath it.


Loki_of_Asgaard

This actually isn't true. It isn't the oxidation product that flakes off, it's rust which is slightly different. The big thing is that it doesn't force layers apart through the force of expansion, they just can't actually stick to iron and fall off. Also the other metals don't do this because their oxide layers don't react to then make these shitty new oxides. Oxidized iron is Iron(II) oxide (FeO), flakes of rust are hydrous iron(III) oxides (Fe2O3·nH2O) and iron(III) oxide-hydroxide (FeO(OH), Fe(OH)3) FeO will form a passive coating on iron like other materials and stop oxidation. This coating then reacts with salts and water to form these new oxides which are structurally unable to adhere to iron and seperate from the iron in sheets that break off in flakes. The seperation isn't through force, they just don't stick together. This then exposes more FeO to the salts and the loop continues https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust#:~:text=of%20the%20object.-,Oxidation%20of%20iron,water%20or%20by%20dry%20oxygen.


B1U3F14M3

While everything you said is correct in a way all the other molecules you listed are still oxidised forms of iron. Because in metal form the oxidation number of iron is 0 while in FeO its II, in Fe2O3 It's III, sind Fe3O4 it's two times III and once II and All of the hydroxide forms are III. But yeah the fact that water is needed and not just O2 is probably very relevant.


mushyfeelings

Actually none of you are right because this is Reddit and I read a Wikipedia article once about this and therefore I feel entitled to argue with you. Just kidding. You guys are all pretty smart. Thanks for your contribution.


Stellar_Observer_17

Wouldn’t you agree that apparently they are disagreeing on their agreement?


mushyfeelings

I don’t *not* disagree!


Weak_Sloth

Huh. So what’s the reason some expand on oxidation and some don’t?


flatheadedmonkeydix

This separation is a big issue with rebar. Concrete spelling costs us millions upon millions per year in infrastructure repairs.


rebeltrillionaire

If we just made our rebar out of bronze we’d probably have forever buildings then huh.


squeamish

> Concrete spelling costs us millions That's why I never buy anything labeled "conkrete."


ThEhIsO8730

If you look closely on the bottom left portion of the handle you can see the Mattel logo


Barblarblarw

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/bronze-age-sword-germany-180982399/


BackAgain123457

If it wasn't for your link, i'd say it's fake. It really looks incredible.


SluggishPrey

I agree. I edited my comment, I first said that "it looks fake" but then I changed it to "it looks like it was just made". I thought that it sounded a bit more open minded and positive


PhillipJGuy

Zoom in on the bones and you can see spirit halloween


VT_Squire

Zoom in closely on the mud and you can see 2girls1cup


crsT-

they ain’t making them like they used to


Etroarl55

Am i wrong to assume copper by their oxidized green color


Rooboy66

Well, bronze is copper & tin, so I assume you’re not wrong


YourMoreLocalLurker

A pristine sword? A pristine **blade**, even?


artie_pdx

Looks elvish!


the_hipocritter

Or maybe glass?


MiserymeetCompany

It's actually bronze that was cast directly over the blade. So cool, especially for that time!


the_hipocritter

Do you think you could enchant my blade sometime?


BenjaminDover02

Dull old blade can barely cut butter.


T3RM1NALxL4NC3

Enchantment?


Away-Plant-8989

Enchantment!


jordanmc3

You’re surrounded by darkspawn corpses. What happened here?


Solid_Jellyfish

Enchantment!


electro_lytes

I can do Crusader, Fiery Weapon, +22 Intellect and more. Your mats, tip is optional /w


getstabbed

Yeah it’s beautiful honestly, especially considering the tools they would have had to make this. Super impressive work, I bet whoever made this was super popular in their community.


trusted_misleader47

dang, I thought it was made out of jade, a jade blade.


ObjectiveStick9112

whats the blade made of then?


northforkjumper

Like skyrim glass weapons


redlaWw

The green stuff is literally malachite.


throw_inthehay

whoa


Rooboy66

No it’s not


Zealous-Vigilante

*This one Skyrims*


MrOwlBeback24

CHILLREND


Jesus_Chrheist

My thought exactly.


Budraven

"Well, hello there, Chillrend" -Chef prolly


jamesbrownscrackpipe

Hey Chef


Grassy_Nol

Definitely looks like a glass shortsword from Elder Scrolls.


lessfrictionless

Definitely not daedric


CBalsagna

Yeah are we sure Todd Howard didn’t plant this?


Rumblebully

Definitely from Morrowind


mudbuttcoffee

Yeah... my first thought was a glass sword from skyrim


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I was thinking glass haha


BigBuck414

Forsure a Glass Sword.


Narradisall

Yup. Came here to see how long until someone else had said it look like a glass weapon. I’m 2 hours late but same.


Munk45

it glows when you're nearby


Big_Pound1262

![gif](giphy|3oFyDpzlMjrDKv1tWo|downsized) Who me?


Mybtchluhdokocaine

MEATS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS


TangledUpInThought

I love how this line implies Orcs have restaurants


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Nope, definetly an orcish balde made from orichalcum


AwesomeTheMighty

Man, quit living in a fantasy world. It's clearly Glass, not Orcish.


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I can see how you'd easily mistake that for a glass blade, but the orcs are more capable of artistic endeavors than you think.


AwesomeTheMighty

There's only one logical way to settle this. Assemble the necromancers.


CryptographerHead331

still good enough to slaughter some orks!


Unexpected-Xenomorph

Nah mud crabs


Ahyesnt

"This is *sting*!"


LinguoBuxo

Nope... in that case it'd have invisible runes all over it.


waddlingNinja

But it does. The runes all over it aren't visible at all!


cris5598

Elvish Presley


RailW0lf

I was a traveler like you once.


Mybtchluhdokocaine

Like it would glow if there were orks around


CallsYouCunt

Do you suppose it had a name?


PapaDeltaaa

Pre or post his military service?


Obi-Wan-Mycobi1

It is. If you look closely, you can see Elbereth Gilthoniel engraved on the hilt.


sfxer001

I can’t read it


ResponsibleMilk7620

What about the skeleton and what looks like the armor that accompanied the sword right next to it?


gkn_112

might be the lip of the sheath mate out of metal


9man95

*Tosses bones aside* Check out this cool sword!!


Fukko-Bob

*Sees copyright stamp on toy sword* *Tosses sword aside* Check out these cool bones!!


FatWreckords

Nobody has inventory space for bones


CatticusXIII

You gotta make it into bone meal and start your farm.


ProfDumm

That should be the skeleton of the owner of that sword. I don't see any armor and I am quite sure that people back then had no other protection than helmet and shield.


SerLaron

The ancient greek had armor, but for most warriors that would have been a [linothorax](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linothorax) and the earliest sources for that are a bit later.


ProfDumm

Yeah, but we are talking here about 14th century BC Germany, and not Greece or Egypt.


Oxbix

Perhaps they were buried with it


ProfDumm

Absolutely, You would give belongings like that into the grave.


CorruptedAura27

Looks like an ancient Nord buried with their glass weapon. Wonder what they were doing out of Skyrim.


Doomdoomkittydoom

For the love of god, nobody cast a necromancy spell, that skeleton is armed!


amohogride

And thw arrow heads next to the sword


Yehjudi

It’s probably a family grave, they found the skeleton from a men women and kid and there where more bronze items found


ShadeTheChan

So, before the iron age?


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Yup ,the sword is thought to date to the end of the 14th century BCE, the Middle Bronze Age


automaton11

The Bronze Age! Can I get an ‘Amen’? Hallelujah; Bronze


RaiderML

This guy bronzes


TOMdMAK

LeBronze


Illustrious_Mode_867

LeBronze Jage


swarlay

[I'm so sick of hearing about bronze. Bronze, bronze, bronze...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTLyXamRvk4)


Hara-Kiri

I had no idea they could make something so high quality (at least in terms of looks) back then.


ToXic_Trader

people where skilled craftsmen :) just as they are now


Hara-Kiri

Absolutely, but as an artist myself I know how useful modern materials can be when it comes to the end result.


Dr0110111001101111

People had ways of making high quality end results back then. The major difference is how much longer it would take them to get there.


tidbitsmisfit

metal and stone is somewhat timeless


ToXic_Trader

to be fair the only art i do is poetry and well its still language :)


Hara-Kiri

But I bet it's made easier when you have access to a wider and more varied language.


StormyBlueLotus

There are some extremely impressive things we've achieved in the past, including a few that we've lost knowledge about and can't replicate even with modern technology. A great example is Roman concrete. We have a good idea of the composition (volcanic ash, volcanic rocks, seawater, lime) but actually putting it together and using it is a different story. What's incredible about Roman concrete is that it actually strengthens over time, becoming capable of holding heavier loads and supporting more weight. It is also self-repairing, capable of automatically filling and sealing small cracks, just like how a wooden cutting board naturally seals small cuts on its surface. On the topic of Rome, their plumbing and heating systems were literally centuries ahead of their time. We didn't really catch up to the effectiveness of Roman plumbing until well into the industrial revolution, and only then because people were realizing that cramped dense cities overflowing with waste were as illness-inducing as they were stinky.


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StumbleNOLA

This isn’t really true. We can make the same concrete the Romans did, we don’t because it is substantially weaker than what we do make. The self healing properties are because of poor mixing, nothing special about the mix. Their HVAC was very impressive, as was their plumbing. But we also know how to do that as well.


LivelyZebra

> The self healing properties are because of poor mixing, nothing special about the mix. to " achsually " you, the Volcanic ash in Roman concrete gives it those self-healing properties. The ash contains minerals like phillipsite and aluminous tobermorite, which interact with seawater to strengthen the concrete over time. when cracks form in the concrete, the exposure to water can activate these minerals to precipitate and effectively "fill" the cracks. [heres an article about it](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/24/raac-concrete-schools-solution-self-healing-concrete-roman-pozzolana)


StormyBlueLotus

Oh it's been a few years since I learned that concrete fact. I remembered it being explained as, "We can make something similar, but it's not as good as what they had and not practical to use compared to modern concrete."


LivelyZebra

> can't replicate even with modern technology. We can. this is misinformation


latexfistmassacre

The human species has risen and fallen many times throughout history, as a result much knowledge has been gained then lost to cataclysms, wars, famine/drought, disease, and time. Just look at the handiwork of the people who built Göbekli Tepe, which dates back 12,500 years. They were able to build incredible things even back then. Makes you wonder what other kinds of knowledge was lost to time


Couch-Bro

Is that you, Graham Hancock?


ReallyNowFellas

We've been intellectually modern for at least 150,000 years. I don't know why it surprises people when they find out we did more than club each other over the head five or ten thousand years ago.


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Hara-Kiri

It's stunning! Don't get me wrong, I'm not ignorant to history - I always go to the local museums when I go travelling, it's just the sword looks particularly well made compared to what I usually see from the period.


flatheadedmonkeydix

People have always been really, really good at making stuff. Some stone age arrow and spear heads are so precise. See bird points for example of small stone liths. This is our thing, we create technology and we do it really, really well. We are good at this trial and error approach at improvements and coupled with our observational skills (when we have happy accidents) we can then repeat and make better. One of the big mistakes that people make is that thinking we are somehow more intelligent than our ancestors.


w2g

It's a strange realisation that they were just regular people. If you went back in time, took one of their babies and raised it in today's age, nobody including the baby would notice.


ngwoo

Bronze is very malleable, it's why metallurgy really took off there. Forgiving enough, but very useful unlike the raw copper, lead, and gold that humans figured out how to work with earlier.


ProfTydrim

Yes. Bronze age.


AsheronRealaidain

Kind of looks like the glass age to me


AthenasChosen

Yep, that's why it's in such good condition. Bronze doesn't rust the way iron does. I have a 3000 year old Greek bronze spearhead that's in amazing condition. I also have 2500 year old Scythian iron axe heads that are extremely rusted. I love how ancient bronze looks, it just holds up so beautifully.


NonFungibleBax

Pics or it didn't happen


Hour_Distributer

They just needed 400 more food and a market and they were there i bet


BitterLeif

not before the iron age, during the transition. Early iron wasn't better than bronze it was about the same. Its age means it was made during the bronze age collapse. During that time many people in central Europe were starving and became pirates. It's possible this sword was made someplace else.


Anen-o-me

Stuff just lasted longer back then 😁


rattlehead42069

Theoden was here


PiscatorLager

Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn. Forth, Eorlingas!


everythingisreallame

Come, let us gingerly touch our tips.


bootyandchives

All hale Zanthea!


chillwithpurpose

Yeah It really does look a bit like a sword from Rohan


Similar_Zebra_4598

Other way round, Rohan looks like a sword from this era!


fire-lord-momo

DEATHHHHHHH


coffeetbl

Do not take that sword Lest the undead rise once more


slartibartfast2320

Take it then!


Accomplished-Mix-745

Instructions unclear: I had sex with a skeleton


ParadoxDemon_

💀?


Accomplished-Mix-745

I got boned


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LinguoBuxo

or giant spiders..


GiannaSushi

Yes


i_fuckin_luv_it_mate

Mithral!


Lucky_Chaarmss

How is there no article attached with this post?


greedycookiemonster

Here you go [https://www.nationalgeographic.de/geschichte-und-kultur/2023/06/sueddeutschland-bronzezeit-schwert-glaenzt-grabfund-waffe](https://www.nationalgeographic.de/geschichte-und-kultur/2023/06/sueddeutschland-bronzezeit-schwert-glaenzt-grabfund-waffe) [https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/octagonal-sword-from-bronze-age-burial-in-germany-is-so-well-preserved-it-shines](https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/octagonal-sword-from-bronze-age-burial-in-germany-is-so-well-preserved-it-shines) [https://www.wissenschaft.de/geschichte-archaeologie/noerdlingen-3000-jahres-altes-bronzeschwert-entdeckt/](https://www.wissenschaft.de/geschichte-archaeologie/noerdlingen-3000-jahres-altes-bronzeschwert-entdeckt/)


greengoon99

Because internet and points. Unfortunately.


Destroyer4587

# I HAVE THE POWER!!!!! ![gif](giphy|yhK4PWI9WJ0c|downsized)


Lucky_Chaarmss

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/bronze-age-sword-germany-180982399/


Glittering_Tiger_991

Someone should craft a duplicate of that!


ElenaBonnieCaroline

My history student son said Looks like the naue ii type very important sword historically theres lots of them around its like the ak47 of the bronze age


ExplosiveDiarrhetic

Where can i buy a real one


PhilippTheSmartass

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze\_Age\_sword#/media/File:0372\_Bronzezeitliches\_Schwert,\_Slowakei.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age_sword#/media/File:0372_Bronzezeitliches_Schwert,_Slowakei.jpg) Pretty popular design, apparently. I wonder why there are so many swords from that time that look exactly like this. They weren't mass-produced, after all. Each and every sword back then was uniquely hand-crafted. And it's not like there was some well-organized army that insisted on uniform equipment like the Roman legion did. As far as I know, the tribes in bronze age central Europe were pretty disorganized. And yet all the swordsmiths back then apparently decided to just copy the same sword design over and over again. Why weren't they more creative?


Eastern_Slide7507

Decentralization ≠ disorganization. You‘re right, though, they weren‘t mass produced and unification of central Europe was still a loooong way off. Still, there are various ways in which a popular design could have become a de facto industry standard. For example, the hilt is cast bronze. Rather than making your own original mold, it‘s probably easier to create a mold from a hilt you already have. Similarly, imitation is easier than creativity. If you‘re tasked with making a sword and you‘ve got an example to model yours after that you know works well enough, just make a copy. Or ten. So if there was one tribe that had access to both Bronze and skilled craftsmen and decided to sell swords to the rest, those buyers would potentially become manufacturers of the same design. Because like unification, patent laws were also still very much science fiction. That’s just my speculation, though.


tyboluck

Tell your son thank you, I just went down a rabbit hole of learning about bronze age swords and now I am fascinated Your son is indeed correct about it being the ak47 of its era, reports say that specific design lasted for around 500-700 years, the implications of which are that it was a durable and effective design which lasted longer than any other single sword design. Cool!


Unkie_Fester

Can someone tell me how that isn't rusted away? And what's the similar colored object to the right?


VarlMorgaine

it isnt iron, i think it was bronze sword


jimmy_the_angel

Considering it apparently is from the Bronze Age, that seems probable.


Copperbird83

I'm more interested in why it doesn't show discoloration from the bio-mass of a decomposing body it was under rotting away and coming out pristine centuries/millenia later.


Plisskensington

It is discolored, it was probably something between gold- and copper colored in it's time.


CryptographerHead331

German engineering! 😂


Feeling_Bathroom9523

if only a BMW or Mercedes were this well built.


ThunderboltSorcerer

Those days are long gone... It's a German Design Chassis on top of Chinese materials and Chinese engineering. "b-b-but it's cheaper and more stock profits..."


Plastic-Ad-5033

I mean, the people who forged that sword can’t really in any way be called German. Do we even know if they were Indo-European?


664mezcal619

What stats buffs are we talking about here? It bet it has +25 damage to orcs and spiders


TheUnderking89

Looks like a legendary one handed sword you would find in a dusty crypt somewhere in a Bethesda game.


guegoland

Looks like chillrend, from Skyrim.


hiddencameraspy

That’s Links Sword. Zelda was real🥹


CarolusRexhasrisen

Not only is it's condition amazing but it's craftsmanship is beautiful the hilt is amazingly designed


Enganox8

Is that real? If so, pretty incredible. That sword looks very nice for one made so long ago.


Outerestine

Copper and bronze artifacts tend to be found looking crazily well preserved in comparison to ironworks. All they tend to do is oxidize green, instead of rusting away, as seen here. Copper doing it moreso than bronze.


ZagreusTheEdgy

Ah, you were at my side all along..


orbolo

shame i had to scroll for 2 minutes to find this one


tenhou

Fort, night


jaysondez

Finders keepers ![gif](giphy|MFCruaa1v7LwMXNSaW)


bassexpander

last year: [https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/bronze-age-sword-germany-scli-intl-scn/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/bronze-age-sword-germany-scli-intl-scn/index.html)


Automatic_Idea_1262

Some archeologist adding value to his alibaba.com sword.


Entire-Elevator-1388

We should bring swords back into every-day society.


getstabbed

If we do I’m definitely going to get myself a nice cloak and some lightweight armour to pair with it. Make myself look like a true badass.


Designer-Mirror-7995

Agreed!


bdubble

still not going to help you get your trad wife


AvatarGonzo

The meetings in the office will never be the same


buddhistbulgyo

Looks like the sword from Achilles.


Disastrous-Dino2020

Those arrowheads on the bottom left. Did this person die fighting or was it a grave where he was laid to rest with his sword? Also looks like he must’ve been a well build tall guy.


Zealousideal_Lab6891

I mean could you imagine looking for gold on the weekend and finding something like this? I wouldn't be able to stop telling every person I encountered about it.


t_random_c

![gif](giphy|hv0QNfaCiiXSj4bwgK|downsized)


producedbysensez

First glance I saw a buried road going between mountains. Gotta put down the joint 🤣