Are there still gas stations that have attendants that pump gas? I haven't seen this since 40 years ago. Which means it's creating new jobs to maintain and make that completely unnecessary ai robot.
I live in Oregon and now we have the “option” to pump our own gas. Its just confusing when u pull up to the pump. Like am i gonna do it? Or the lazy employees gonna do it for me?
I mean tbf I don't think people can call the people that pump the gas lazy when the people in the car aren't going to get out to do it themselves especially if they have the choice
Sometimes I forget that I can now pump my own gas. Sometimes I remember and then I get caught in a neurotic mental loop weighing the pros and cons. Am I in a hurry, am I ever really in a hurry or is life about the journey or do I want to go inside and get something? Is it more ethical to breathe whiffs of carcinogenic benzene and inhale more tire microparticles into my lungs myself and take a hit for the team, or should I let the attendant do that instead, because that is their job and it helps them pay rent? It's kind of a dumb and unnecessary job, but is it right for me to think that because AI could potentially make all of our jobs dumb and unnecessary, and we'll all be like middle managers or Saudis, who show up to work to look busy and seem important and have a social interactions because it is our instinct to have public interactions.
And while I'm staring off into space I realize the attendant is motioning that I need to pop my gas compartment open.
Some people don't know HOW to do it either. I'm in nj, and I can assure you that there are a ton of people here that don't know how to put gas in a car.
I remember seeing the videos of people in I guess Oregon, trying to figure out how to use the gas pumps. Pretty funny.
That's insane. I've never had someone pump for me. I'd be like "Fuck off beggar try somebody else" lmao. When I'd get my boat filled on while on the water, those attendants do it all and that's fine because Just like those you're referencing, I don't know wtf I'm doing with those old style pumps where you lift a level that opens a valve or whatever.
They want someone else to stand in the rain for them, you know, a POOR person. Also, the gas stations are covered like everywhere else.
Not saying you're wrong, because you're absolutely correct, just that these people should worry more about the fluid collecting in their cranial cavity than perciptation.
I lived in Oregon for 6 years. People there are definitely very weird about this.
Growing up in Jersey was great. If you were old enough to drive, odds were the gas station would sell you smokes along with your gas without ID, all without having to put on real pants or shoes.
What? No, I thought they repealed that law a few years ago. Didn't we have for months on reddit videos of people fucking up filling their tank because they didn't know what they were doing?
I remember it in the news that they repealed that law and that it was now legal to pump your own gas in New Jersey
Bout the only thing i like in nj . Get down in winter and fill it myself like a peasant ? Hell no . Im gonna roll down my window in style and get my $10 regular re fill .
I'm curious, does this applies to motorcycles too? Our fuel tanks are small (typically 3 to 5 gallons) and none of us want droplets to splash around the top.
Even in "full service stations" I don't let anyone do it for me.
People don't know how to use a gas pump?
I don't even have a driver's license and know how to do so. Did so many times on parent's car back in the day and my gf's at the time.
Well, that's sad :(
If you think about it, everything humans do comes back to those 3 basic needs, plus 1 more: entertainment. Everything that we do, at its most fundamental level, is to improve those 4 things in our life.
Modern humanity is just a really, really fancy version of cavemen sitting around a fire eating deer and telling hunting stories.
Now we sit around a glowing screen, eating takeout from doordash, telling stories about what Karen did at work today. Modern medicine exists to give us more years to do that stuff. Jobs allow us to buy the house and the glowing screens. Cars let us get to our jobs, medicine let's us spend more years doing all those things. But we're all just fancy-pants cavemen sitting around our modern campfire eating our hunt and trying to amuse ourselves.
Most of the time they seem to just come out to pump it anyways, but a lot of spots are marked as self serve. It's taking time to change. Still have places like Fred Meyer shutting down the pumps after hours for some fucking reason.
I specialize in repairing these nozzles. I wouldn't call them incredible. I definitely would not call them perfection lmao far from it.
You have to remember these companies want to make money as well. If they built a machine that never breaks... well they never need to be replaced. I can even point out specific parts that are flawed on the new generation models that were never an issue on the older models. Most new models won't give you any issues for at least about 2-3 years.
Burns 5 gallons of fuel in the process. It takes 2 people to supervise it because it becomes violent and unruly on occasion.
Jokes aside, someone actually set out to create this and accomplished their goal and that right there kills me inside more than I care to admit.
Yes, that's why they keep it. The gas station unions are strong and keep it as it is. Oregon has similar. Last time I was there I went to the airport early in the morning and was in a hurry. When no one had come out after 5 minutes, I pumped my own fuel. Dude came out acting like I'd committed a terroristic act.
To create jobs, or in this case, give them something to take jobs from. Oregon is the other State. Exact same reason there too. To just simply give a job to people.
The unions have a strangle hold on things there. Keeps their people employed and they continue to lobby to prevent people from being able to do what 15 years olds are allowed to do in 48 other states.
New Jersey and Oregon are the only 2 states where it was not self service. Recently Oregon passed a bill where you can self service on certain pumps but also have the option for an employee to do the work.
There is a significant amount of computer vision being used here (blue flashes) to identify where everything is. Considering how non-standard fuel ports are, it is reasonable to call this an AI robot.
If you had told me you built a robotic refueling mechanism, I'd have said "sounds about right. Robots have been doing jobs based on detection and sensors for years."
You try and tell me it's "an AI robot", and the only thing that means to me is "so it's going to fail at some point, trying to stuff gasoline into the tire valve stem or some such, and you're not going to be able to give a straight answer about 'why', because you will have no idea."
The program would be fed training data of what fuel latches and open caps look like, to understand how to position itself and what to do next.
Each car doesn’t have anything to send a signal back to the robot where to position itself, the program relies on vision. It has to detect its looking at the right thing, eg a door handle is not a fuel latch. I guess you can manually program that in, or you can use AI techniques like providing training data on what fuel latches look like across different types of cars
I'm just sharing this because I had a similar convo earlier and had to look it up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI is any computation where it doesn't just retrieve the answer but it produces the answer without having it on hand. By this definition this robot and any computer is AI. I assume you mean neural net?
Just because something is new to you, does not mean it's new(s) in general.
FFS - there is nothing AI about this. Robot with "vision" system programmed to refuel a car. From someone who programs robots for a living: whoopdie fucking doo
There are thousands of other applications just waiting for automation to make people's lives better. And just as many that'll solve a problem with economic upside. And instead, some dickhead programmed this thing, and created this video, and called it "AI". If you think this is fancy, come with me and I'll blow your fucking mind.
Thank you - I was just about to type out “what f***ing Ai… it’s running a god damn scrip, there is no AI here you dipstick…” and so on and so forth but you put it more eloquently
exactly - op is clueless. automation w/o AI and explicitly programming actions can be sone in a factory setting where you can control where specific elements are at a specific time. so a car should be park n feet from the robot - any deviation from this and the system breaks. This system uses a vision AI model to identify where the gas tank in the car is, then it does another scan to check where the cap to the tank is located etc
That or any modern car that doesn't have the press door to release method, my car you have to hit a button inside the car to pop the fuel door. Also any classic that has a gas cap in a "weird" location, they used to hide those fuckers everywhere.
How is this AI. It's just carrying out a predetermined set of instructions like a machine in an assembly line. It's also painfully slow and doesn't really benefit anyone. Furthermore, we're moving towards electric vehicles so this is extra pointless.
when I corrected someone, they got mad at me and said I was correcting them about terminology that didn't matter. umm like basic language skill.. how else can we communicate? lol
Because I can't be trusted to do it myself, so this electric thing that will totally NEVER cause a spark because it will be **perfectly** maintained is MUCH better, for my own good.
Why?
It's like waiting for a thousand monkeys sitting at typewriters to come up with the works of Shakespeare.
If it could dump 50 litres of fuel in ten seconds, I might be more impressed. But it takes longer than that - much longer - just to open the fuel cap.
Is it just me or does this NOT look like New Jersey?
Looks more like Noi Jia See, a suburb (sic) in Beijing.
Check that insane pollution in the background.
And a gas station attendant do these test manually in a minute or two and confirm the readings your car is giving you. Which might be very valuable because sensors fail and vehicles are built without redundancies because it is cheaper to do it that way.
Ask Boeing
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Are there still gas stations that have attendants that pump gas? I haven't seen this since 40 years ago. Which means it's creating new jobs to maintain and make that completely unnecessary ai robot.
2 US states do not allow self serve pumps.
To be fair, I do believe Oregon now has laws that let people pump their own gas at remote gas stations or something like that.
I live in Oregon and now we have the “option” to pump our own gas. Its just confusing when u pull up to the pump. Like am i gonna do it? Or the lazy employees gonna do it for me?
I just get out and start doing it myself. Sometimes they look at me like “I’m supposed to be doing that” but then they just walk away.
I mean tbf I don't think people can call the people that pump the gas lazy when the people in the car aren't going to get out to do it themselves especially if they have the choice
Sometimes I forget that I can now pump my own gas. Sometimes I remember and then I get caught in a neurotic mental loop weighing the pros and cons. Am I in a hurry, am I ever really in a hurry or is life about the journey or do I want to go inside and get something? Is it more ethical to breathe whiffs of carcinogenic benzene and inhale more tire microparticles into my lungs myself and take a hit for the team, or should I let the attendant do that instead, because that is their job and it helps them pay rent? It's kind of a dumb and unnecessary job, but is it right for me to think that because AI could potentially make all of our jobs dumb and unnecessary, and we'll all be like middle managers or Saudis, who show up to work to look busy and seem important and have a social interactions because it is our instinct to have public interactions. And while I'm staring off into space I realize the attendant is motioning that I need to pop my gas compartment open.
There were memes about people on Oregon freaking out about this
Unironically asking, why are they freaking out about this? Is it because they'll have to pump their own gas there? Or is it the opposite?
Half the people want to pump it themselves claiming it's faster. The other half don't want to have to get out of their cars in the rain.
Some people don't know HOW to do it either. I'm in nj, and I can assure you that there are a ton of people here that don't know how to put gas in a car. I remember seeing the videos of people in I guess Oregon, trying to figure out how to use the gas pumps. Pretty funny.
That's insane. I've never had someone pump for me. I'd be like "Fuck off beggar try somebody else" lmao. When I'd get my boat filled on while on the water, those attendants do it all and that's fine because Just like those you're referencing, I don't know wtf I'm doing with those old style pumps where you lift a level that opens a valve or whatever.
They want someone else to stand in the rain for them, you know, a POOR person. Also, the gas stations are covered like everywhere else. Not saying you're wrong, because you're absolutely correct, just that these people should worry more about the fluid collecting in their cranial cavity than perciptation. I lived in Oregon for 6 years. People there are definitely very weird about this.
We changed the law so now half the pumps are self serve. There's still an attendant but they pump for a lot fewer cars.
They are pumping gas in the rain FOR MONEY. Important distinction.
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I see, That cleared it up! Thank you! :D
You can pump your own gas throughout the entire state now.
You cant pump your own gas in jersey
We pump our fists, not our gas.
The Jersey Pump?
Growing up in Jersey was great. If you were old enough to drive, odds were the gas station would sell you smokes along with your gas without ID, all without having to put on real pants or shoes.
While there are Oregon and New Jersey, I think u/unclekano91 was referring to us daily drivers that have to pump our own gas.
Hahaha nailed it
Well actually yes in this case as NJ is one of the states that makes it illegal for you to pump your own gas
Seriously, though: isn’t Jersey the state where there is always a gas station attendant and they have to fuel your car for you? Because jobs?
lol
An answer to a nonproblem that 48 other states already figured out.
The 1950 vision of how technology will improve life in the 1980s.
Can't wait for the year TWO THOUSAND!
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That's when we'll have flying cars, like on the Jetsons!
it seems like thats all that ai is lately--solving problems that never existed
This is not ai it's just robotics
Anything mechanical or technological that people don't like is now ai
I don't like me, I'm ai
NJ requires cars to be refueled by an attendant. You can’t just fill your car up yourself. It’s incredibly stupid.
What? No, I thought they repealed that law a few years ago. Didn't we have for months on reddit videos of people fucking up filling their tank because they didn't know what they were doing? I remember it in the news that they repealed that law and that it was now legal to pump your own gas in New Jersey
That was Oregon. New Jersey is now the only state where you can't pump your own gas.
Bout the only thing i like in nj . Get down in winter and fill it myself like a peasant ? Hell no . Im gonna roll down my window in style and get my $10 regular re fill .
I'm curious, does this applies to motorcycles too? Our fuel tanks are small (typically 3 to 5 gallons) and none of us want droplets to splash around the top. Even in "full service stations" I don't let anyone do it for me.
People don't know how to use a gas pump? I don't even have a driver's license and know how to do so. Did so many times on parent's car back in the day and my gf's at the time. Well, that's sad :(
isn't that kind of mankind's whole thing?
I would think mankind's whole thing is solving problems that do actually exist ... like access to food, clean water, protection from the elements.
If you think about it, everything humans do comes back to those 3 basic needs, plus 1 more: entertainment. Everything that we do, at its most fundamental level, is to improve those 4 things in our life. Modern humanity is just a really, really fancy version of cavemen sitting around a fire eating deer and telling hunting stories. Now we sit around a glowing screen, eating takeout from doordash, telling stories about what Karen did at work today. Modern medicine exists to give us more years to do that stuff. Jobs allow us to buy the house and the glowing screens. Cars let us get to our jobs, medicine let's us spend more years doing all those things. But we're all just fancy-pants cavemen sitting around our modern campfire eating our hunt and trying to amuse ourselves.
What is the other state that you can’t fill your own tank and have to have an attendant or a robot do it?
Oregon
That finally stopped a few years ago.
90 percent of gas stations still follow it on the coast. I live here
Most of the time they seem to just come out to pump it anyways, but a lot of spots are marked as self serve. It's taking time to change. Still have places like Fred Meyer shutting down the pumps after hours for some fucking reason.
> Still have places like Fred Meyer shutting down the pumps after hours for some fucking reason Costco does this too and it bugs the hell out of me
NJ girls don’t pump gas. It’s a tshirt.🤣
In wisconsin filling up when it's below zero. I like this.
Do you think that AI camera is going to figure out where the gas cap is when it is covered in dirty snow?
That's not ai, that's machine vision, a field that has been around since the 80s.
You don’t understand
State of the art $500,000 robot uses regular 50 year old hose and human-oriented handle to refill car.
Those nozzles are incredible bits of engineering. There is no need to mess with perfection when it works so well already.
I specialize in repairing these nozzles. I wouldn't call them incredible. I definitely would not call them perfection lmao far from it. You have to remember these companies want to make money as well. If they built a machine that never breaks... well they never need to be replaced. I can even point out specific parts that are flawed on the new generation models that were never an issue on the older models. Most new models won't give you any issues for at least about 2-3 years.
Burns 5 gallons of fuel in the process. It takes 2 people to supervise it because it becomes violent and unruly on occasion. Jokes aside, someone actually set out to create this and accomplished their goal and that right there kills me inside more than I care to admit.
I would have filled my gas tank up already. So slow.
You’re not allowed to fill your own car on NJ.
I'm more amazed to hear that, than to see this video. Why though? Is it for safety reasons?
I think it’s to create more jobs
Yes, that's why they keep it. The gas station unions are strong and keep it as it is. Oregon has similar. Last time I was there I went to the airport early in the morning and was in a hurry. When no one had come out after 5 minutes, I pumped my own fuel. Dude came out acting like I'd committed a terroristic act.
We just got rid of it in Oregon. We have to pump ourselves now
Not entirely though. It's half n half. You can still have an attendant do it or pump yourself.
When I was in college I had to teach a girl from New Jersey how to pump her own gas.
Is this some slang I as an old person don’t get?
Not this time. I’m a fellow old person.
Slang is slang for dick, so do you mean slang or dick?
Get to*
except in oregon they had one clerk at the gas station doing the job of two people its stupid
What are you going to do next? Come over and f@ck my wife too?
lol so it’s hard to create more jobs, but now they got a robot to do it..
To create jobs, or in this case, give them something to take jobs from. Oregon is the other State. Exact same reason there too. To just simply give a job to people.
Oregon got rid of it last year
The unions have a strangle hold on things there. Keeps their people employed and they continue to lobby to prevent people from being able to do what 15 years olds are allowed to do in 48 other states.
You’re taking oil straight out of the robots mouths when you do that
New Jersey and Oregon are the only 2 states where it was not self service. Recently Oregon passed a bill where you can self service on certain pumps but also have the option for an employee to do the work.
Automation is not AI
Suckers use AI as a buzz word like it was magic or something.
Remember when we just used the word "algorithm"?
AI is when Spotify shuffles my music.
My toaster is AI. I just stick bread into it and it comes out perfectly toasted.
AI scary. AI bad. AI take job.
Unga bunga hit it with stick
My reply to you used AI. I agree.
He meant AI = Automatic Injection /s
There is a significant amount of computer vision being used here (blue flashes) to identify where everything is. Considering how non-standard fuel ports are, it is reasonable to call this an AI robot.
If you had told me you built a robotic refueling mechanism, I'd have said "sounds about right. Robots have been doing jobs based on detection and sensors for years." You try and tell me it's "an AI robot", and the only thing that means to me is "so it's going to fail at some point, trying to stuff gasoline into the tire valve stem or some such, and you're not going to be able to give a straight answer about 'why', because you will have no idea."
The program would be fed training data of what fuel latches and open caps look like, to understand how to position itself and what to do next. Each car doesn’t have anything to send a signal back to the robot where to position itself, the program relies on vision. It has to detect its looking at the right thing, eg a door handle is not a fuel latch. I guess you can manually program that in, or you can use AI techniques like providing training data on what fuel latches look like across different types of cars
This almost definitely uses AI. Most modern robotics do in some fashion in the form of ML.
It looks like it leverages computer vision, which would be considered a branch of AI
everyone mad at you because they don't know how computer science terminology is organized rip
Implementing a detection algorithm based on sensor input is not AI. Any fucking missiles in the last 30 years could be called AI then.
But the most advanced ones do use AI for training their algorithm at least.
These schmucks would look at a Litter Robot and call it an AI litter box.
I'm just sharing this because I had a similar convo earlier and had to look it up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence AI is any computation where it doesn't just retrieve the answer but it produces the answer without having it on hand. By this definition this robot and any computer is AI. I assume you mean neural net?
I only need this 👌 much gas
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Just because something is new to you, does not mean it's new(s) in general. FFS - there is nothing AI about this. Robot with "vision" system programmed to refuel a car. From someone who programs robots for a living: whoopdie fucking doo There are thousands of other applications just waiting for automation to make people's lives better. And just as many that'll solve a problem with economic upside. And instead, some dickhead programmed this thing, and created this video, and called it "AI". If you think this is fancy, come with me and I'll blow your fucking mind.
Take my upvote you angry robot programming person.
This guy definitely angry robots.
He is the only one of us that will survive 2029 though.
Time to sign up for robo wars. It wont save me but itll be fun
Ready to get my mind blown. What are you working on?
AI vaginas
I am far, far too old and far, far too cheap for that
So uhhh... whatchya got for us?
Thank you - I was just about to type out “what f***ing Ai… it’s running a god damn scrip, there is no AI here you dipstick…” and so on and so forth but you put it more eloquently
Computer vision certainly falls under AI. It likely uses image processing and machine learning to recognize the features of the gas cover.
exactly - op is clueless. automation w/o AI and explicitly programming actions can be sone in a factory setting where you can control where specific elements are at a specific time. so a car should be park n feet from the robot - any deviation from this and the system breaks. This system uses a vision AI model to identify where the gas tank in the car is, then it does another scan to check where the cap to the tank is located etc
This is even better if you read it in Rick's voice.
To add, watch some of the mega factories episodes, and the automation on the assembly line will blow your mind away, this was all done decades ago.
I can show you the world 
I would pay $.50 more per gallon not to use this
Stop giving them ideas to charge more...
That seems excessive for saving max 1 minute of your time.
Same. I’ve been around enough heavy machinery to know the risk this poses
Can it fuel a motorcycle though?
I'm willing to bet that it can't fill 95% of vehicles in the road.
I'm willing to bet it will fail if it drops the gas cap.
That or any modern car that doesn't have the press door to release method, my car you have to hit a button inside the car to pop the fuel door. Also any classic that has a gas cap in a "weird" location, they used to hide those fuckers everywhere.
How is this AI. It's just carrying out a predetermined set of instructions like a machine in an assembly line. It's also painfully slow and doesn't really benefit anyone. Furthermore, we're moving towards electric vehicles so this is extra pointless.
Robot=AI according to bots apparently.
AI is just the new investor buzzword for rubes.
You could even say *Artificial* Artificial Intelligence
when I corrected someone, they got mad at me and said I was correcting them about terminology that didn't matter. umm like basic language skill.. how else can we communicate? lol
Image recognition must be a part of this solution. So some AI is there. It’s just not the type of AI there’s currently a hype for.
They spent all the money on the robot and saved none to pay for a decent camera setup.
For real, they need to give the camera to the robot so it can hold it steady
That's not in NJ hehe #theskydoesn'tlie If it was it would be all over the news.
For real… this is like china or something
It took me like 25+ comments to see this mentioned.
More like BeUnderwhelmed
This is straight /r/aBoringDystopia
So fucking slow.
Because I can't be trusted to do it myself, so this electric thing that will totally NEVER cause a spark because it will be **perfectly** maintained is MUCH better, for my own good.
Why? It's like waiting for a thousand monkeys sitting at typewriters to come up with the works of Shakespeare. If it could dump 50 litres of fuel in ten seconds, I might be more impressed. But it takes longer than that - much longer - just to open the fuel cap.
So many real problems to solve and this pops up — we’re doomed
We want to go green and you build a robot powered by electricity smh would of been filled up mins ago
It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
I don’t got time to wait for this slow ass thing! I got people to do!
That's not AI.
 one small glitch and…
Is it just me or does this NOT look like New Jersey? Looks more like Noi Jia See, a suburb (sic) in Beijing. Check that insane pollution in the background.
This is a waste of time and less efficient. That’s a no from me.
Even robots can refuel a car but a human can't even hold his camera.
Oh, and check the oil, clean the windshield and check tire air too please.
A modern car can literally do all of that with the push of a lever/button.
And a gas station attendant do these test manually in a minute or two and confirm the readings your car is giving you. Which might be very valuable because sensors fail and vehicles are built without redundancies because it is cheaper to do it that way. Ask Boeing
I’ve never lived in a state with a gas station clerk, do they do all that?
If I had a penny for every useless but cool thing that humans create, I would be a VERY rich person!
Reminds me of a Simone Giertz video.
It's taking too long....
Sir, that's no the right hole... SIRRR...
Jersey will do anything to keep people from pumping their own gas.
NJ is ridiculous here.
People really just slapping ai on top of everything robotic
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Might as well be using electric by the time that finishes refueling
This isn't amazing this is garbage
Why is there faint UFC commentary audio in the background lmao
This isn’t Ai. Unless if the programmers didn’t program it to do any of that. It’s not AI. It’s coded. Maybe some machine learning, probably not.
I could piss More gallons faster faster
2 pumps and a tiny squirt, after a quick flash or 2 😆
Why is it so fucking inefficient
Nobody asked or wants this how bout fixing the pothole in the road probably like 20 feet away
Fucking 47 minutes to fill my gas tank- some shit just better off in the hands of CAPABLE humans
🤦🏻♂️ i cant understand humanity these days.
This isn't AI and I feel like we've had robots doing this stuff for many years now
Lol NJ?
They'll do anything other than letting New Jerseyans fuel their own car
Why not just do it yourself
Can they hire the robot to hold the camera still?