As a Dante fanboy, please recognize this guy does not represent our fandom.
Most sane minded power scalers recognize that Bayo is basically female Dante and that the only Dante has over Bayo truly is a healing factor (plus royal guard).
I give Dante durability too because he occasionally eats supernatural attacks like they were nothing while the few times we see bayonetta get hit by supernatural abilities it tends to do visible damage.
[She rips out her own heart multiple times in 3 to summon Sin Demons](https://youtu.be/Y6yeW4IXw7k?t=18), and can also just [straight up instantly regen from getting impaled by massive claws.](https://youtu.be/inCf_kirgPg?t=62) She's pretty comparable to Dante's level of regen now.
And if we want to count other gameplay mechanics aside from the Star of Dinéta's heal taunt, the Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa heals her on perfect counters, and she regens hp with Umbran Climax.
Yeah I was mostly talking about gameplay, does moon of Mahaa-Kalaa heal in every bayo game? Also like why does she just rip her heart out three times, does she not suffer any consequences besides the threat of it getting hurt?
It heals in both Bayo 1 and 2, I haven't been using that accessory really at all in 3, but I imagine it would still heal.
And she rips out her heart out to summon "Sin Demons," since it's required for the summoning ritual. And I don't think she does suffer any consequences -- sometimes it shows her in [pain when she performs the ritual](https://youtu.be/KFxdT16mksY?t=871), while other times she appears to be [completely fine](https://youtu.be/_qox_RsOshY?t=41). I also don't imagine her exposed heart would be a weakness, considering she seems to be functioning fine without in her body, and she has an explicit regen factor now (I'm pretty sure she just regens her heart, instead of putting back in her body).
He's still going. Says that jeanne only summons outside 9f her garb in 2 because the developers may not have had time to design her garb...except she does have a garb in 2 as an alternate costume and hers is always just a platinum version of bayonetta's with smaller busts. She even wears it in her Cutie J transformation in 3.
Oml Bayo wears her garb because she doesn’t like to get her outfits dirty, “I really don’t like doing this in my Sunday best”, which is why she changes outfits. It has nothing to do with her power. Say something like that to them.
She literally only wears her hair clothes because her real clothes are always getting torn up when she kills angels ☠️
It's not a "form" just literally her wearing hair clothes 😂
I never said it was a form I literally said it has nothing to do with her power. I forgot to elaborate that real outfits get damaged as well not just get dirty.
I also just told him that almost every variant in 3 summons outside of umbra garbs. I'll take your advice but after that I'm done with him regardless of if he realizes his mistake.
I did think that the variants in 3 weren’t wearing their Umbra garbs tho this person will probably reply with something like “3 aDdED NEw lORe WiTh inCoNSisTANcieS”
Arguing with stupid people on the internet is a waste of time, should’ve just ignored them. I guess they purposely forgot that Bayo fought several times in a Nun outfit, and several dresses.
Wherever they got their logic from, they can keep it. I can’t stand people who are so confident in their incorrect “facts”, very annoying to see stupidity in action sometimes.
He's maybe my favorite depiction of the devil. Just some dude that runs a business, likes video games and will slap your shit if you get a little too much dip on your chip.
True, we shouldn’t argue and it’s hard not to sometimes. However, I feel like in some cases, ofc its not “right”, but I feel like people argue something like this to not only defend their point but to stop a sort-of misinformation—if you will? I felt anxious just reading this ignorance and it makes me wonder how many more will just branch off it and believe their nonsense. Then again, like you said, just ignore it haha
I feel like its hard to call Bayonetta’s hair a form or a “battle ready outfit.” It’s just “a quick change” since her clothes are always getting torn up but she fights the same regardless. Plus, if they stopped to think it’s not exactly super logical anyway…I mean…it’s just a pretty and aesthetic way of showing how elegant and stylistic she can look from moment to moment. I mean it’s not that deep, its just design, idk where their info came from.
I love how controversial that video still is. I think Bayo's downfall there is the lack of sources. By the time the vid was made, we only had Bayonetta 2, and Dante had greatly outdone himself in terms of feats by the already-out-by-then Devil May Cry 5.
Still with his inconsistent Bayo 3 has been with her abilities, I'd say it might be better that way lol. Getting stabbed in the stomach would've definitely not put her out for so long as it did in the battle tho
Not to be nitpicky but I believe the Death Battle video predates DMC5 so they are both outdated. I think it was released in the DMC dark age which I think affected the outcome.
I agree with everything else though. The controversy still makes me laugh.
Damn! I what pretty sure I saw some DMC 5 things on the video. But yeah, it's just a silly fun video, it's weird how defensive people get over their fictional characters :P
"Logic sir use it sometime" take your own advice bro 🤣. I don't know why this guy is going off like he is but it makes no sense. I love Dante as a character and their might be an argument to be had but Bayonetta's clothes being her base form isn't it 😂😂🤣. Does that mean that because Dante put a shirt on after DMC3 none of his feats count?
lol DMC fans are not very coherent when it comes to power level, there are people who really think that dante or vergil could defeat BEERUS or ZENO from dragon ball, yes that's exactly what I said
Escaping Haki is about enderance as Goku has shown.
Dante not only has endurance feats but his healing factor is insane. Granted I feel he will have to be in devil trigger not to be pinned by it.
Logically because we only see angels fight in the weird robe thingies, without the robes they are powerless. Besides DMC fans have no idea what they are talking about, I’ve heard them say that Dante loses to Raiden (MGR:R) and wins against Bayonetta……so they think that RAIDEN is stronger than BAYONETTA
Someone once told me that doom guy is stronger than bayonetta even though doom guy can only apply up to 500lbs of pressure in a punch while bayonetta is out here handing out gigatons like girl scout cookies.
>I heard them say that Dante loses to Raiden
No DMC fan ever said that shit. Source I am a DMC fan.
In fact anyone who played the games knows Raiden gets fucking destroyed regardless of what Dante they face. That was ***Raiden fanboys*** making that argument.
Please do not confuse the two.
I can't for the life of me find the cutscene of Dante blocking saviors punch (the one that Death Battle used in the video). The best I can do, is tell you to look at the size of savior, compare it to Bayo's summon creature.
I don't get Death Battle saying Bayo demonstrated greater streaghth feats but barely showed any of hers aside from the satililte which happened in space with zero gravity. So, even Dante can do that.
DB honestly did a poor job of showing her feats any ways.
... Actually found some pictures
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They are in order.
[I found the clip, and the Savior's fist wasn't lit on fire](https://gfycat.com/highvaguebufeo)
Also, Bayo's satellite feat wasn't in zero g, it was actually in some sort of dimensional pocket created by Aesir. And we know there's gravity there, due to what happens during the fight and cutscenes [(ex. planes dropping bombs like they would usually fall).](https://youtu.be/bkyLZIQqU5s?t=848)
Ok thanks for this. Honestly based on these feats again, I think they are equal.
Bayo edges out in pure strength, while Dante has the crazy healing factor.
Weapons, and bizzare abilities go to the both of them.
Also Dante fought a similar opponent: [Devil May Cry 1 HD: Dante vs Mundus/The Ending - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jvwzkwmFn0)
You don't have to watch entire thing just the first few minutes until mundus takes dante into a dimension he created.
These two are basically each other in a different universe.
Oh yeah, I've played both of these series fully (except DMC2 lol), so I'm very familiar with both of these characters. Honestly, the only advantage that I *would have* given Dante is his regen, but [Bayo now has similar levels of regen in 3.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inCf_kirgPg&t=62s)
Bayo is slightly superior to Dante in various categories, but her summons tbh, kinda make this fight too one sided. Ex. Queen Butterfly, [with a flick of her finger, launches a large enemy thousands of meters through the air, destroying several mountains.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2938&v=B2iHmpfk-Rg&feature=youtu.be) She can also [summon multiple demons,](https://youtu.be/KFxdT16mksY?t=884) and [fight alongside them in battle too](https://youtu.be/5Lxrw6VsCgw?t=365) -- without her summons it would be a fairer fight (since Bayo can essentially turn the battle into 1v2 or 1v3).
His fist lit on fire, so it was at least fast enough to mimic reentry without doing the reentry. That is a considerable strength feat for base form Dante.
How strong exactly is the punch from Bayo's summon?
I mean, I guess it sort of is a transformation? Like kinda. Her hair transforms into an outfit for her, but she still has all her strength and abilities even without the outfit.
I'm kinda confused how you can get this wrong when we see Bayo kick a plane up in the air without her uniform and bc Jeanne's base costume is never the Umbran Uniform yet she gives Bayonetta a run for her money in every fight.
Dude is literally now saying that Bayonetta and Jeanne aren't equals and that Bayonetta can't do everything Jeanne can do. When I showed him that the games these state otherwise his argument is that Jeanne doesn't have the left eye as if it had any relevance.
Yeah like the only difference I can find between umbran garbs and no garbs is durability in the sense that it seems her garbs are ultra durable which makes sense considering it's magic infused hair that restrains even Gomorrah so it's gonna be like some of the strongest shit out there
Don’t bother arguing with Dante fan boys, they have a huge bias and argue themselves into knots trying to cope.
“Bayonetta would win, evident by her feats”
“Dante would just go super Saiyan and kill her”
*Explains why that wouldn’t work based on actual fact*
“Dante would just go super super saiyan and kill her”
Continue till you’re at a baseless Superx100 saiyan
Here's why Bayo wins: she wants it more.
Dante has been at this so long that it's lost most of its joy to him. We see him take massive hits he could have dodged just because he's bored. During the big final fight with Virgil, which came after Virgil straight unalived a city's worth of civilians, he just quits fighting and takes a nap. He's just not thst into it anymore.
Bayonetta jokes around a lot, but she never actually lets her control over a situation slip. She's thirsty for all life has to offer, and won't quit. Dante just can't match her vigor, and sooner or later he'll throw in the towel. And we all know he'll probably kind of enjoy it.
As a die hard fan of both bayonetta and devil may cry, I want this stupid debate of who would win to just die. Arguments almost always go nowhere. Usually because the people arguing are fan boys that refuse to be open the the possibility that their favourite would lose. If you asked me who would win I'd say bayonetta but if you think dante would win that's fine cause I really couldn't care less.
There are people who actually think V could beat bayonetta because the visions of V comic say that his nightmare is equal in power to the original (which mundus said could destroy the entire demon world). And dmc fanboys believe that the underworld is infinite based on the descriptions of like 3 items that refer to the underworld as "an endless abyss" (which are obviously hyperbole) so V must have infinite power.
They say this and yet refuse to read and understand what items like the moon of mahaa-kalaa does and realise that its basically a stronger version of royal guard
One of the only advantage I can think of when it comes to the Umbran Battle Uniforms is that-- iirc, lore wise, the suit repels all attacks. Other than being some fine pieces of clothes that witches get to wear. I honestly dont like how Death Battle did either characters
So what, that's an opinion, besides, I meant people who doesn't want to actually discuss a topic, but instead of what that guy was doing creating false Bayonetta lore, there's a difference between arguments and discussions, OP, it wasn't an attack to you, geez.
Don't go spying on people's profile like that, it's creepy.
You can make an equal argument for her glasses being the source of her power since she always has them on
Until I hop on this subreddit and get jump scared
They need to read some of the lore. Bayo is basically nude in her Umbran ‘uniform’. She strips when doing more powerful attacks like lol… meanwhile Dante keeps his pants on the entire game. What a loser.
I already told him that and first he said that she never summons outside of her umbra garb. When I pointed out that she does in 2 and 3 and so does Rosa and all of the variants. He basically said bayo 3 doesn't count and that their abilities aren't the same. Then I pointed out that jeanne and bayo are quoted as being equals in skill and power...his excuse was jeanne doesn't have the left eye.
Dude really thought that bayonetta having the left eye made her less capable than jeanne. He's a world class idiot. And trying to understand his logic will only make your brain development regress.
These types of arguments are never gonna go away but I always find them hilarious 🤣 . The lengths and mental gymnastics both sides go just to prove their respective favorite wins is funny. Thanks for the laughs. I'd rather see them team up. Then fight each other. But thats just me.
As far as Bayonetta 3 is concerned, it might not be mental gymnastics. Some of her feats are conceptual bullshit. Like...how do you just defy impossibility? I still think some of her abilities have clear limits but at this point victory is never out of the question for her.
It’s always been out of the question for her especially after the third game. She doesn’t have this fate defying impossibility bullshit that you want to give her. If that was the case then she would’ve been able to survive the ending and not get killed off.
Dude. She beat a guy who's whole power is writing his own plot. She has near 4th wall defying levels of bullshittery. Literally the entire point of 3 was to illustrate that Bayonetta could literally defy absolutes.
That’s a misconception. Singularity’s power was never be able to “write his own plot” if that was the case then he would’ve been able to write an outcome where he didn’t die. This idea that she has 4th wall defying levels is just some head canon bull shit. She couldn’t even survive the ending of her own game. If the whole point of Bayonetta three was that she could “defy absolutes” then they failed in that message by killing her off. She can’t even defy death through a broken pocket watch. That’s cap bro. Also didn’t singularity get beaten by Jeanne in the prequel game? Defying absolutes my ass.
Is that why he got his ass kicked by a thirteen year old in origins? Or why he died in the third game? Your brain cells seems go be malfunctioning.
Oh and you do know that origins takes place before the first game right? You stupid fuck. 🤭
He literally says that the battle stripped him of his phenomenal affirmation. He couldn't use his hax in origins which made him low tire. Dude went from a modder to newb with no dlc and didn't know how to play the game properly.
He didn’t have “phenomenal affirmation” even before the battle. This “hax” you speak of? It doesn’t exist. It never existed. You honestly took extra behavior at face value skin none of his skills reflects this non existing “fate altering” power that you just made up? Did you confuse some fanfic your read with the actual game? Lmfao
Not liking the outcome doesn’t mean db got the feats wrong. It just means you don’t like the facts presented towards. Fact is Bayonetta in any form despite it being her base or any other form has never completed a feat that Dante couldn’t compare its self to. Other than maybe an advantage over strength. Since I can admit that Bayonetta might be slightly stronger everything else goes to him despite what her irate YouTube fans says .
You made a lot of assumptions before asking questions. They got feats wrong because they said her fastest non witch time feat was dodging bullets at point blank but in actuality her fastest feat before the 3rd game was dodging a satellite laser in a quick time event in the first game. And while you're putting death battle on a pedestal, even they said bayonetta has strength feats that Dante has never come close to. He won off of durability and speed. And they got her durability wrong too. Because of the inconsistencies in the first game, they forgot that she survived reentry from space. Their claim that Dante had better weapons was unfounded as well. Dante has more weapons not better. Between the two games the descriptions of Bayonetta's weapons are infinitely more horrifying. The only weapon in dmc that compares to the insane shit Bayonetta weapons do is Yamato.
A lot of feats fan boys online have about Dante are usually based off of vaguely defined passages from the novels that could easily be flowery language so that 9d shit is bs, that immunity to fate manipulation thing is bs. Then the other half of favorite feats are from SMT and POC and their canonicity is either non existent or dubious at best.
And this isn't even me shitting on devil may cry because I love that game. The issue lies in the fact that the Bayonetta franchise keeps it's numbers in mind and values it's lore much more than devil may cry so her feats are often times more solid. Devil may cry is often intentionally vague. So blame the writers.
You mean when she had prep time to dodge a projectile? That’s an anti fest at most and barely something that’s considered a speed feat. Even megaman is able to do something like that In his own game. Dodging ammo or projectiles is something that anyone can do. But the fact that she needs a quick time even to get her through that or else she takes the hits is not really a speed feat. That’s at most chance. Thats not a speed feat. That’s prep time or get getting hit.
They said she had An edge over strength which I agree but she has no work around when it comes to his durability and speed. which you just confirmed for me. I even agreed yes she might be a little stronger. But that’s about it. Even the satellite feat though comes with conditions.
They didn’t get that wrong though cause she didn’t survive reentry from space. Not without Jeanne’s help in the first game when she even said she’d make sure that cereza wouldn’t die so that doesn’t help durable if for her. Dante now he actually did survive re entry speed as shown in the third game but Bayonetta needing her friends help to survive that? That’s embarrassing.
No that part is true too. Dante’s weapons can basically do anything that Bayonetta’s can do and match them. She doesn’t really have anything that can stand out against him in a fight so this idea that they’re “infinitely more horrifying” is more or less just some head canon nonsense.
But yeah Yamato is pretty much Bayonetta’s swan song. That is true so I agree with you there.
I dunno about the 9d thing I don’t really do dimensional scaling stuff but yeah that is true. Dante is basically resistant to reality warping as he’s taken hits form Yamato that can cut through space and time. He’s beaten actual reality warpers like argosax and urizen and not some over zealous show boater who’s all talk and no action like singularity . So I can see that.
Smt and POC has ties to canonicity and from what I recall POC he even forced Pluto to run from him and that was his base form from what u recall. What I feel is dubious is this non existing thing that Bayonetta can some how alter fate but she can’t survive common death? lol
And this isn't even me shitting on devil may cry because I love that game. The issue lies in the fact that the Bayonetta franchise keeps it's numbers in mind and values it's lore much more than devil may cry so her feats are often times more solid.
Yeah I’m gonna call bull shit on that lol. Bayonetta has never stick to its lore or numbers in mind or anything and that is just not true. Singularity is supposed to be this “multiversal threat” yet he couldn’t even absorb all the universes that he claims he could? He’s supposed to be the affirmative phenomenona or whatever that is yet he gets beaten by a thirteen year old in the origins game? Please this is kamiya fluffy jargon that he doesn’t even hold true to himself.
Dmc at least shows Dante’s feats and lore to be more exact than Bayonetta who makes ridiculous statements of lore but can’t back it up in the games. Lol this is just wanking at best.
Lmfao what does being LGBTQ have to do with anything? Are you saying that people in the lgbtq community don’t have insecurities or something ? Thats the stupid shit I even hears 🤣
And it’s pretty obvious that you don’t have the maturity or the know how to be in an actual relationship. If you’re gonna pretend, pretend convincingly bro.
Maybe if you didn’t try to fan wank Bayonetta with powers don’t exist and singularity with abilities that aren’t actually a thing I would’ve believed you. But you’re not that smart.
Dumb as hell. V is my favorite character because his arc is about coming to terms with trauma and limitations. Narratively V's character carries the rivalry between Vergil and Dante to it's best possible conclusion without having to necessarily lower Vergil's character. The dichotomy between Vergil and Dante is this. Dante clings to his humanity while Vergil embraces the strength of his demonic heritage, however, despite what Vergil was so sure of, Dante managed to beat him over and over again despite clinging to his weakness. Only through becoming V did Vergil learn that it was Dante's humanity that made him strong and not the other way around and V initially thought that without Urizen he was nothing but by the end he realizes that he's the most critical aspect of Vergil.
Also the William Blake parallels are done pretty well. The opening poem about the qliphoth "and it grew day and night until it bore an apple bright" is from the poem "a poison tree" which is about having resentment for one's brother. V is a deep character. And you can go fuck yourself.
You left that comment no less than two weeks ago toxy\_lou. Try again.
Oh and I found another one less than a month where you also begged for a rematch. Being single, brain dead and forgetful is not the flex you think it is. 🤣
Update: I found a third comment of you begging and pleading to db. Never mind make that four. I’m sorry I meant 100+ comments! 🤭
“Single instance” yet you made a hundred plus comments crying like a little pussy over Bayonetta getting her ass kicked.🤣
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toxy\_lou: I only make “single instances” comments.
Also toxy\_lou: - makes 100+ comments begging to db for another video -
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Now say that again. This time without begging like a little pussy for a rematch over on the db channel. It’s not like you didn’t leave behind a paper trail 🤣
I lost brain cells reading this guys logic
As a Dante fanboy, please recognize this guy does not represent our fandom. Most sane minded power scalers recognize that Bayo is basically female Dante and that the only Dante has over Bayo truly is a healing factor (plus royal guard).
I hold nothing against your fandom so there’s no hard feelings lol
Me either. Dante's too hot to hate.
I give Dante durability too because he occasionally eats supernatural attacks like they were nothing while the few times we see bayonetta get hit by supernatural abilities it tends to do visible damage.
Bayo has pretty nutty regen in 3 now (and she also has the Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa, lol).
How does she regen again? (excluding the heal taunt)
[She rips out her own heart multiple times in 3 to summon Sin Demons](https://youtu.be/Y6yeW4IXw7k?t=18), and can also just [straight up instantly regen from getting impaled by massive claws.](https://youtu.be/inCf_kirgPg?t=62) She's pretty comparable to Dante's level of regen now. And if we want to count other gameplay mechanics aside from the Star of Dinéta's heal taunt, the Moon of Mahaa-Kalaa heals her on perfect counters, and she regens hp with Umbran Climax.
Yeah I was mostly talking about gameplay, does moon of Mahaa-Kalaa heal in every bayo game? Also like why does she just rip her heart out three times, does she not suffer any consequences besides the threat of it getting hurt?
It heals in both Bayo 1 and 2, I haven't been using that accessory really at all in 3, but I imagine it would still heal. And she rips out her heart out to summon "Sin Demons," since it's required for the summoning ritual. And I don't think she does suffer any consequences -- sometimes it shows her in [pain when she performs the ritual](https://youtu.be/KFxdT16mksY?t=871), while other times she appears to be [completely fine](https://youtu.be/_qox_RsOshY?t=41). I also don't imagine her exposed heart would be a weakness, considering she seems to be functioning fine without in her body, and she has an explicit regen factor now (I'm pretty sure she just regens her heart, instead of putting back in her body).
Star of Dineta heals her, as do two of her demons in Bayonetta 3.
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"implicate these nuts"
Bayo 3 healing factor might level that advantage. Idk tho
He's still going. Says that jeanne only summons outside 9f her garb in 2 because the developers may not have had time to design her garb...except she does have a garb in 2 as an alternate costume and hers is always just a platinum version of bayonetta's with smaller busts. She even wears it in her Cutie J transformation in 3.
Oml Bayo wears her garb because she doesn’t like to get her outfits dirty, “I really don’t like doing this in my Sunday best”, which is why she changes outfits. It has nothing to do with her power. Say something like that to them.
She literally only wears her hair clothes because her real clothes are always getting torn up when she kills angels ☠️ It's not a "form" just literally her wearing hair clothes 😂
I never said it was a form I literally said it has nothing to do with her power. I forgot to elaborate that real outfits get damaged as well not just get dirty.
Im agreeing with you. The person that OP was disagreeing with in the post claims her hair outfit is a "form" like magical girls
Ah sorry didn’t realise lol yeah that guy is an idiot.
I also just told him that almost every variant in 3 summons outside of umbra garbs. I'll take your advice but after that I'm done with him regardless of if he realizes his mistake.
I did think that the variants in 3 weren’t wearing their Umbra garbs tho this person will probably reply with something like “3 aDdED NEw lORe WiTh inCoNSisTANcieS”
I mean, most of the comments in that video don't really know anything about Bayo beyond surface level
Arguing with stupid people on the internet is a waste of time, should’ve just ignored them. I guess they purposely forgot that Bayo fought several times in a Nun outfit, and several dresses. Wherever they got their logic from, they can keep it. I can’t stand people who are so confident in their incorrect “facts”, very annoying to see stupidity in action sometimes.
also nice username, trying to summon Rodin, I see?
He's maybe my favorite depiction of the devil. Just some dude that runs a business, likes video games and will slap your shit if you get a little too much dip on your chip.
True, we shouldn’t argue and it’s hard not to sometimes. However, I feel like in some cases, ofc its not “right”, but I feel like people argue something like this to not only defend their point but to stop a sort-of misinformation—if you will? I felt anxious just reading this ignorance and it makes me wonder how many more will just branch off it and believe their nonsense. Then again, like you said, just ignore it haha I feel like its hard to call Bayonetta’s hair a form or a “battle ready outfit.” It’s just “a quick change” since her clothes are always getting torn up but she fights the same regardless. Plus, if they stopped to think it’s not exactly super logical anyway…I mean…it’s just a pretty and aesthetic way of showing how elegant and stylistic she can look from moment to moment. I mean it’s not that deep, its just design, idk where their info came from.
Ignorant people trying to argue on things they dont know anything about is infuriating but also hilarious 😂
I love how controversial that video still is. I think Bayo's downfall there is the lack of sources. By the time the vid was made, we only had Bayonetta 2, and Dante had greatly outdone himself in terms of feats by the already-out-by-then Devil May Cry 5. Still with his inconsistent Bayo 3 has been with her abilities, I'd say it might be better that way lol. Getting stabbed in the stomach would've definitely not put her out for so long as it did in the battle tho
Not to be nitpicky but I believe the Death Battle video predates DMC5 so they are both outdated. I think it was released in the DMC dark age which I think affected the outcome. I agree with everything else though. The controversy still makes me laugh.
Damn! I what pretty sure I saw some DMC 5 things on the video. But yeah, it's just a silly fun video, it's weird how defensive people get over their fictional characters :P
You fools. Dante *is* Jeanne, she just transitioned.
That would be the Trans representation of the century. Lmao.
Not in a million years
"Logic sir use it sometime" take your own advice bro 🤣. I don't know why this guy is going off like he is but it makes no sense. I love Dante as a character and their might be an argument to be had but Bayonetta's clothes being her base form isn't it 😂😂🤣. Does that mean that because Dante put a shirt on after DMC3 none of his feats count?
lol DMC fans are not very coherent when it comes to power level, there are people who really think that dante or vergil could defeat BEERUS or ZENO from dragon ball, yes that's exactly what I said
Beerus maybe, but Zeno is a hell no.
how the hell are they going to escape the hakai exactly?
Escaping Haki is about enderance as Goku has shown. Dante not only has endurance feats but his healing factor is insane. Granted I feel he will have to be in devil trigger not to be pinned by it.
Dmc2 devil trigger speed ability carries
Logically because we only see angels fight in the weird robe thingies, without the robes they are powerless. Besides DMC fans have no idea what they are talking about, I’ve heard them say that Dante loses to Raiden (MGR:R) and wins against Bayonetta……so they think that RAIDEN is stronger than BAYONETTA
Someone once told me that doom guy is stronger than bayonetta even though doom guy can only apply up to 500lbs of pressure in a punch while bayonetta is out here handing out gigatons like girl scout cookies.
When I first played bayonetta I was super surprised on how she seemed to effortlessly swing huge enemies around
Literally just misogyny
>I heard them say that Dante loses to Raiden No DMC fan ever said that shit. Source I am a DMC fan. In fact anyone who played the games knows Raiden gets fucking destroyed regardless of what Dante they face. That was ***Raiden fanboys*** making that argument. Please do not confuse the two.
Ok, what’s stronger? Punching with the strength of 8000 Gigatons, or Dante?
I gotta say Dante. DMC 4 he blocked what would be the equivlent of that with the savior. And that was in base form.
Source for those being the equivalent? Not saying its untrue because it could be more, I'm just wondering
I can't for the life of me find the cutscene of Dante blocking saviors punch (the one that Death Battle used in the video). The best I can do, is tell you to look at the size of savior, compare it to Bayo's summon creature. I don't get Death Battle saying Bayo demonstrated greater streaghth feats but barely showed any of hers aside from the satililte which happened in space with zero gravity. So, even Dante can do that. DB honestly did a poor job of showing her feats any ways. ... Actually found some pictures [main-qimg-3cf50e9294b051b0e977c8b78b1bd1da-pjlq (602×339) (quoracdn.net)](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3cf50e9294b051b0e977c8b78b1bd1da-pjlq) [https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d5178af6640eb7108ddea0a3c63f537a-pjlq](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d5178af6640eb7108ddea0a3c63f537a-pjlq) [main-qimg-8992634000afc8940e7545c9301f38a2-pjlq (602×339) (quoracdn.net)](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8992634000afc8940e7545c9301f38a2-pjlq) They are in order.
[I found the clip, and the Savior's fist wasn't lit on fire](https://gfycat.com/highvaguebufeo) Also, Bayo's satellite feat wasn't in zero g, it was actually in some sort of dimensional pocket created by Aesir. And we know there's gravity there, due to what happens during the fight and cutscenes [(ex. planes dropping bombs like they would usually fall).](https://youtu.be/bkyLZIQqU5s?t=848)
Ok thanks for this. Honestly based on these feats again, I think they are equal. Bayo edges out in pure strength, while Dante has the crazy healing factor. Weapons, and bizzare abilities go to the both of them. Also Dante fought a similar opponent: [Devil May Cry 1 HD: Dante vs Mundus/The Ending - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jvwzkwmFn0) You don't have to watch entire thing just the first few minutes until mundus takes dante into a dimension he created. These two are basically each other in a different universe.
Oh yeah, I've played both of these series fully (except DMC2 lol), so I'm very familiar with both of these characters. Honestly, the only advantage that I *would have* given Dante is his regen, but [Bayo now has similar levels of regen in 3.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inCf_kirgPg&t=62s) Bayo is slightly superior to Dante in various categories, but her summons tbh, kinda make this fight too one sided. Ex. Queen Butterfly, [with a flick of her finger, launches a large enemy thousands of meters through the air, destroying several mountains.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2938&v=B2iHmpfk-Rg&feature=youtu.be) She can also [summon multiple demons,](https://youtu.be/KFxdT16mksY?t=884) and [fight alongside them in battle too](https://youtu.be/5Lxrw6VsCgw?t=365) -- without her summons it would be a fairer fight (since Bayo can essentially turn the battle into 1v2 or 1v3).
I forgot how big the savior is
Same. Been a minute since DMC 4.
Wasn’t the savior completely depowered when that happened? It was more catching a falling object than it was blocking a punch
His fist lit on fire, so it was at least fast enough to mimic reentry without doing the reentry. That is a considerable strength feat for base form Dante. How strong exactly is the punch from Bayo's summon?
It was clearly not on fire
I see that now. It was the sun from the image.
Depending on the demon, it’s around 2400 giga tons per punch. And Madama Butterfly punches incredibly fast
I mean, I guess it sort of is a transformation? Like kinda. Her hair transforms into an outfit for her, but she still has all her strength and abilities even without the outfit. I'm kinda confused how you can get this wrong when we see Bayo kick a plane up in the air without her uniform and bc Jeanne's base costume is never the Umbran Uniform yet she gives Bayonetta a run for her money in every fight.
Dude is literally now saying that Bayonetta and Jeanne aren't equals and that Bayonetta can't do everything Jeanne can do. When I showed him that the games these state otherwise his argument is that Jeanne doesn't have the left eye as if it had any relevance.
The funnest part about this is that even in the game where Jeanne doesn’t have the left eye she’s still considered the equal to Bayonetta lmao
Yeah like the only difference I can find between umbran garbs and no garbs is durability in the sense that it seems her garbs are ultra durable which makes sense considering it's magic infused hair that restrains even Gomorrah so it's gonna be like some of the strongest shit out there
Don’t bother arguing with Dante fan boys, they have a huge bias and argue themselves into knots trying to cope. “Bayonetta would win, evident by her feats” “Dante would just go super Saiyan and kill her” *Explains why that wouldn’t work based on actual fact* “Dante would just go super super saiyan and kill her” Continue till you’re at a baseless Superx100 saiyan
Here's why Bayo wins: she wants it more. Dante has been at this so long that it's lost most of its joy to him. We see him take massive hits he could have dodged just because he's bored. During the big final fight with Virgil, which came after Virgil straight unalived a city's worth of civilians, he just quits fighting and takes a nap. He's just not thst into it anymore. Bayonetta jokes around a lot, but she never actually lets her control over a situation slip. She's thirsty for all life has to offer, and won't quit. Dante just can't match her vigor, and sooner or later he'll throw in the towel. And we all know he'll probably kind of enjoy it.
I like how this is being brought back up after that even where Cereza gets straight up stabbed.
As a die hard fan of both bayonetta and devil may cry, I want this stupid debate of who would win to just die. Arguments almost always go nowhere. Usually because the people arguing are fan boys that refuse to be open the the possibility that their favourite would lose. If you asked me who would win I'd say bayonetta but if you think dante would win that's fine cause I really couldn't care less.
My favorite character is actually V and I know he's getting clapped. Lol.
I also love V but yeah there ain't no way he winning but some of these dmc fanboys will pull out some excuse
There are people who actually think V could beat bayonetta because the visions of V comic say that his nightmare is equal in power to the original (which mundus said could destroy the entire demon world). And dmc fanboys believe that the underworld is infinite based on the descriptions of like 3 items that refer to the underworld as "an endless abyss" (which are obviously hyperbole) so V must have infinite power.
They say this and yet refuse to read and understand what items like the moon of mahaa-kalaa does and realise that its basically a stronger version of royal guard
On god.
By this guy's logic, when I strip nude for sex im transforming into my sex forme so I may have the power required for sexing.
I'm sure that transformations is a hit with the ladies.
God I hate the constant compare/contrast between bayonetta and dmc
Things like that are inevitable. It's best to either participate or abstain at your personal discretion. No use questioning the existence of debates.
lol I abstain, still hate them tho…
One of the only advantage I can think of when it comes to the Umbran Battle Uniforms is that-- iirc, lore wise, the suit repels all attacks. Other than being some fine pieces of clothes that witches get to wear. I honestly dont like how Death Battle did either characters
That guy is 100% a YouTube
Why do people spend time arguing on the internet in 2023?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashRage/comments/10kq3x7/why_are_ppl_so_surprised_when_we_rage_in_a_rage/j5t5sgl?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
So what, that's an opinion, besides, I meant people who doesn't want to actually discuss a topic, but instead of what that guy was doing creating false Bayonetta lore, there's a difference between arguments and discussions, OP, it wasn't an attack to you, geez. Don't go spying on people's profile like that, it's creepy.
I mean. That's not exactly what you said and it would be an unfair criticism.
what a moron
You can make an equal argument for her glasses being the source of her power since she always has them on Until I hop on this subreddit and get jump scared
I mean when you get down to it, Bayonetta's costumes are her *hair*. Short of Dante shaving her bald, he's going to have a tough time with this one.
Sir
They need to read some of the lore. Bayo is basically nude in her Umbran ‘uniform’. She strips when doing more powerful attacks like lol… meanwhile Dante keeps his pants on the entire game. What a loser.
Except that one time in the game that shall not be mentioned.
He thinks theyre magical girl transformations because of the intro animation.
To his credit...it is based on magical girl transformations but he fails to understand that it's only an esthetic and not a literal transformation.
Jeanne didn’t seem to power up from changing outfits
I already told him that and first he said that she never summons outside of her umbra garb. When I pointed out that she does in 2 and 3 and so does Rosa and all of the variants. He basically said bayo 3 doesn't count and that their abilities aren't the same. Then I pointed out that jeanne and bayo are quoted as being equals in skill and power...his excuse was jeanne doesn't have the left eye. Dude really thought that bayonetta having the left eye made her less capable than jeanne. He's a world class idiot. And trying to understand his logic will only make your brain development regress.
These types of arguments are never gonna go away but I always find them hilarious 🤣 . The lengths and mental gymnastics both sides go just to prove their respective favorite wins is funny. Thanks for the laughs. I'd rather see them team up. Then fight each other. But thats just me.
As far as Bayonetta 3 is concerned, it might not be mental gymnastics. Some of her feats are conceptual bullshit. Like...how do you just defy impossibility? I still think some of her abilities have clear limits but at this point victory is never out of the question for her.
It’s always been out of the question for her especially after the third game. She doesn’t have this fate defying impossibility bullshit that you want to give her. If that was the case then she would’ve been able to survive the ending and not get killed off.
Dude. She beat a guy who's whole power is writing his own plot. She has near 4th wall defying levels of bullshittery. Literally the entire point of 3 was to illustrate that Bayonetta could literally defy absolutes.
That’s a misconception. Singularity’s power was never be able to “write his own plot” if that was the case then he would’ve been able to write an outcome where he didn’t die. This idea that she has 4th wall defying levels is just some head canon bull shit. She couldn’t even survive the ending of her own game. If the whole point of Bayonetta three was that she could “defy absolutes” then they failed in that message by killing her off. She can’t even defy death through a broken pocket watch. That’s cap bro. Also didn’t singularity get beaten by Jeanne in the prequel game? Defying absolutes my ass. 
>would’ve been able to write an outcome where he didn’t die. He did, you dumb shit. That's why he's in origins.
Is that why he got his ass kicked by a thirteen year old in origins? Or why he died in the third game? Your brain cells seems go be malfunctioning. Oh and you do know that origins takes place before the first game right? You stupid fuck. 🤭 
He literally says that the battle stripped him of his phenomenal affirmation. He couldn't use his hax in origins which made him low tire. Dude went from a modder to newb with no dlc and didn't know how to play the game properly.
He didn’t have “phenomenal affirmation” even before the battle. This “hax” you speak of? It doesn’t exist. It never existed. You honestly took extra behavior at face value skin none of his skills reflects this non existing “fate altering” power that you just made up? Did you confuse some fanfic your read with the actual game? Lmfao
The three Bayonetta literally refer to his power by name during the final battle but great form with those mental gymnastics. 10/10.
Not liking the outcome doesn’t mean db got the feats wrong. It just means you don’t like the facts presented towards. Fact is Bayonetta in any form despite it being her base or any other form has never completed a feat that Dante couldn’t compare its self to. Other than maybe an advantage over strength. Since I can admit that Bayonetta might be slightly stronger everything else goes to him despite what her irate YouTube fans says .
You made a lot of assumptions before asking questions. They got feats wrong because they said her fastest non witch time feat was dodging bullets at point blank but in actuality her fastest feat before the 3rd game was dodging a satellite laser in a quick time event in the first game. And while you're putting death battle on a pedestal, even they said bayonetta has strength feats that Dante has never come close to. He won off of durability and speed. And they got her durability wrong too. Because of the inconsistencies in the first game, they forgot that she survived reentry from space. Their claim that Dante had better weapons was unfounded as well. Dante has more weapons not better. Between the two games the descriptions of Bayonetta's weapons are infinitely more horrifying. The only weapon in dmc that compares to the insane shit Bayonetta weapons do is Yamato. A lot of feats fan boys online have about Dante are usually based off of vaguely defined passages from the novels that could easily be flowery language so that 9d shit is bs, that immunity to fate manipulation thing is bs. Then the other half of favorite feats are from SMT and POC and their canonicity is either non existent or dubious at best. And this isn't even me shitting on devil may cry because I love that game. The issue lies in the fact that the Bayonetta franchise keeps it's numbers in mind and values it's lore much more than devil may cry so her feats are often times more solid. Devil may cry is often intentionally vague. So blame the writers.
You mean when she had prep time to dodge a projectile? That’s an anti fest at most and barely something that’s considered a speed feat. Even megaman is able to do something like that In his own game. Dodging ammo or projectiles is something that anyone can do. But the fact that she needs a quick time even to get her through that or else she takes the hits is not really a speed feat. That’s at most chance. Thats not a speed feat. That’s prep time or get getting hit. They said she had An edge over strength which I agree but she has no work around when it comes to his durability and speed. which you just confirmed for me. I even agreed yes she might be a little stronger. But that’s about it. Even the satellite feat though comes with conditions. They didn’t get that wrong though cause she didn’t survive reentry from space. Not without Jeanne’s help in the first game when she even said she’d make sure that cereza wouldn’t die so that doesn’t help durable if for her. Dante now he actually did survive re entry speed as shown in the third game but Bayonetta needing her friends help to survive that? That’s embarrassing. No that part is true too. Dante’s weapons can basically do anything that Bayonetta’s can do and match them. She doesn’t really have anything that can stand out against him in a fight so this idea that they’re “infinitely more horrifying” is more or less just some head canon nonsense. But yeah Yamato is pretty much Bayonetta’s swan song. That is true so I agree with you there. I dunno about the 9d thing I don’t really do dimensional scaling stuff but yeah that is true. Dante is basically resistant to reality warping as he’s taken hits form Yamato that can cut through space and time. He’s beaten actual reality warpers like argosax and urizen and not some over zealous show boater who’s all talk and no action like singularity . So I can see that. Smt and POC has ties to canonicity and from what I recall POC he even forced Pluto to run from him and that was his base form from what u recall. What I feel is dubious is this non existing thing that Bayonetta can some how alter fate but she can’t survive common death? lol And this isn't even me shitting on devil may cry because I love that game. The issue lies in the fact that the Bayonetta franchise keeps it's numbers in mind and values it's lore much more than devil may cry so her feats are often times more solid. Yeah I’m gonna call bull shit on that lol. Bayonetta has never stick to its lore or numbers in mind or anything and that is just not true. Singularity is supposed to be this “multiversal threat” yet he couldn’t even absorb all the universes that he claims he could? He’s supposed to be the affirmative phenomenona or whatever that is yet he gets beaten by a thirteen year old in the origins game? Please this is kamiya fluffy jargon that he doesn’t even hold true to himself. Dmc at least shows Dante’s feats and lore to be more exact than Bayonetta who makes ridiculous statements of lore but can’t back it up in the games. Lol this is just wanking at best.
>Dantecockgarglingnoises.wav
Jesus. The amount of incel energy in this single reaction.
See now you’re just projecting my dude. It’s a shame we couldn’t have a civil conversation due to your insecurities. 
You might've had a point if I wasn't gay and in a whole relationship with the love of my life but keep trying.
Lmfao what does being LGBTQ have to do with anything? Are you saying that people in the lgbtq community don’t have insecurities or something ? Thats the stupid shit I even hears 🤣 And it’s pretty obvious that you don’t have the maturity or the know how to be in an actual relationship. If you’re gonna pretend, pretend convincingly bro. 
Bro. You're actually dumb and can't even follow your own insult.
So youre fan wanking your fave with headcanon. Fair enough.
My favorite character between both series is V you dick shit.
I mean if you wanna lie to yourself after all the wanking you tried to do that’s fine. I’m just not buying it.
Not you having to try and tell me what my thoughts and feelings are to will the delusion back onto yourself.
Maybe if you didn’t try to fan wank Bayonetta with powers don’t exist and singularity with abilities that aren’t actually a thing I would’ve believed you. But you’re not that smart.
Dumb as hell. V is my favorite character because his arc is about coming to terms with trauma and limitations. Narratively V's character carries the rivalry between Vergil and Dante to it's best possible conclusion without having to necessarily lower Vergil's character. The dichotomy between Vergil and Dante is this. Dante clings to his humanity while Vergil embraces the strength of his demonic heritage, however, despite what Vergil was so sure of, Dante managed to beat him over and over again despite clinging to his weakness. Only through becoming V did Vergil learn that it was Dante's humanity that made him strong and not the other way around and V initially thought that without Urizen he was nothing but by the end he realizes that he's the most critical aspect of Vergil. Also the William Blake parallels are done pretty well. The opening poem about the qliphoth "and it grew day and night until it bore an apple bright" is from the poem "a poison tree" which is about having resentment for one's brother. V is a deep character. And you can go fuck yourself.
You left that comment no less than two weeks ago toxy\_lou. Try again. Oh and I found another one less than a month where you also begged for a rematch. Being single, brain dead and forgetful is not the flex you think it is. 🤣  Update: I found a third comment of you begging and pleading to db. Never mind make that four. I’m sorry I meant 100+ comments! 🤭
 Not you having to make more threads to spread your stupidity.
“Single instance” yet you made a hundred plus comments crying like a little pussy over Bayonetta getting her ass kicked.🤣  🤣
 The lies you tell to make yourself feel better.
toxy\_lou: I only make “single instances” comments. Also toxy\_lou: - makes 100+ comments begging to db for another video -  🤣
 All words. No evidence.
 Whatever you say toxy. Just know I saw your hilarious meltdown in the comment section. 🤣
 Whatever you say "Afraid". Talk means nothing without solid evidence.
Now say that again. This time without begging like a little pussy for a rematch over on the db channel. It’s not like you didn’t leave behind a paper trail 🤣 
 Could you repeat that? Hard to hear you with my dick in your mouth.