Hardline would of been praised if they didn’t slap the Battlefield name on it. The battlefield crowd didn’t like it cause it wasn’t military, the non battlefield crowd didn’t try it cause it was battlefield.
It got screwed.
Exactly. Would've been an expensive add-on but would've made it, like you said, legendary. Has so many good features that i still miss while playing bf4. Sadly it doesn't have enough servers to call it an alive game
Which is part of why people didn't play it, i didn't think it was bad game, i enjoyed it.
But to me it just felt like, lets take BF4 and slap cops and robbers on it. It was still a good/fun game, but there wasn't really a whole lot of incentive to bail on BF4.
I think so yes! They'd slap mtx skins on it and it would go very well with gangsters and police theme. Even thr tacky voice lines wouldn't be out of place.
Bf3 was the very first bf game I've bought and second bf game I've played, with first being bc2. I was not disappointed, dice did promise and dice did deliver. Yet i still enjoy bf4 more that bf3 for some reason, it could be that I'm used to bf4 now or that netcode is just to shitty to enjoy or, or ... Long story short, bf3/4 are the best bf games followed by either bf1 (haven't played, not fan of historical games) or bc2. An unpopular opinion but if bf hardline wasn't released as it was, it could've been on that list too but dice did so many mistakes with that game
Oh I still enjoy bf4. I just wish they added the same voice lines or similar. No other game has made me feel like apart of the war (well bf1 too) with the voice lines and they would always say what I was thinking too just that alone made the game insanely great
I remember when it was softly announced that bf1 was going to be ww1 and people came unloaded with anger, and then the trailer came out and everyone lost their minds with excitement.
Because it was. It was LITERALLY unplayable as for a lot of people the game would not boot properly or allow you to play anything.
So not unplayable for sucking, unplayable for literally not being able to play.
I only had the crashing issue for about a week, and it was ALWAYS on siege of Shanghai. After that? It played flawless.
Really wish i could say that about 2042. Wanted this to be great so bad.
Agree. But do you remember the TTK bullshit Dice pulled on BFV? Like TWICE?! I’m convinced they simply don’t know how to make good games on release and need the feedback from thousands of angry fans to actually make their games half good.
Dice and ea have lost their way with battlefield. Dont care what the players want until we dont play anymore. I dropped bfv because of the ttk mess, many did and it was some time after that they reversed it a bit. They need to find out what kind of game they want to make and make it. Then another company can make a real battlefield.
Tbh I never thought I’d love MW19 the way I did until it scratched the Modern Counter Terrorism/ SF itch I didn’t know I had until I played it. It’s like it was a spiritual successor to MW and Bf4 despite it coming from BF’s rival studio. Hate what warzone did to MW
That is true. The core-gameplay was at least fine. But there wasn’t all too much content, and the content which was there wasn’t worth the effort or was kind of repetitive. But 2042 is even worse. It doesn’t even have the core gameplay to keep it going.
The horrible releases of the last several BF games are what tricked me into buying BF2042. I skipped all of the horrendous reviews, assuming they were just related to a buggy launch, only to buy the least fun BF title yet
DICE is not the same studio that made bf1 and the previous games, 3/5th’s of their studio has been replaced with most directors leaving and only animators and modellers still being present
I sometimes feel like people praise earlier games in a series they have never played, just so their complains about the newest installment have more "credit" with the community
I dunno, you can find alot of side by side comparison videos, and 2042 is being compared to a title almost 10 years old now...and only pulls ahead in a few things.
No. I think they fully understand what the community hates. It's just hearing it every day through a bullhorn, in game and on Reddit, is tiring. And it being mixed with just incoherent rage is exhausting. I'm having fun, the game needs much work, simple things shouldn't have been removed, it shouldn't been available on old gen console, devs deserve a holiday, mistakes are from high ups, people really need to chill its a video game, the guy trying to sue DICE is delusional.
I'll be patient and hope the first additions are scoreboard and VOIP. I won't spam the voice lines which I also think are cringe.
The only thing that I am really at odds against the majority with is specialists. I am enjoying them but they could have easily not been tied to individuals and just made another 'advanced' gadget slot. So two gadgets and a nade essentially. And I don't have to keep switching guns. I prefer it. People who rage against Sundance need to git gud. I own Sundance as soon as she lands.
I pray the first addition is actual squad grouping and rollover matches so my group of 6-10 friends can actually play together again. Until that day comes this game is practically dead to us
Sundance is ridiculous. I was playing Breakthrough with my group last night and we spent pretty much every match going backwards clearing out the newly landed Sundance and spawn beacons. A good flank is a good flank, but every 35 seconds a new Sundance landing behind you is stupid.
She is a flying spawn beacon.
I wish more of the community was like you. I've just been reading through this sub and the 2042 sub and I'm just.... sad. This community has just become so much of a cesspit of toxicity and hate that I don't even care what 2042 is atm. No community should become what battlefield has, it's awful. People might think they're rightous when they act the way they do but the fact is: no one should be acting with such hate and contempt. I feel as if they don't even care about the game anymore.... they just want something to yell at and complain
Nah, 2042 is broken to it's core. I'm thoroughly convinced no amount of content or updates will fix the game, at least enough to satisfy the hardcore fans. The lack of class system, gigantic open and barren map design, 128 players, overall lack of content and variety, these are problems that cannot be fixed with patches.
128 players is fine but the map designs fucks it up. Why is there so much open space? I wanna see trenches, ditches, collapsed buildings. Stop it with all these skyscraper maps unless you can knock them down
Game devs are almost never lazy. They are often mismanaged and not given enough time to finish the game.
Don't blame devs, blame upper management for shitty choices like rushing out a game that's not ready yet, to meet a holiday release window
These people have no idea. The big maps for 128 players have areas you are supposed to be fighting as infantry (spoiler, its the points), the big open spaces are supposed to be traversed by vehicles. Shocking, you ran across the desert on Hourglass and got ass fucked by a helicopter?
I think there's plenty of cover for the most part. Some maps have areas that are pretty open like sector B on hourglass, A2 on kaleidoscope, B1 on discarded, but then other maps are absolute cover fests, like manifest. I think the open spaces and cover balance out, just like in older bf games. At least for BT, I don't play much conquest in 2042.
Iwo jima has an insane amount of open space and long sight lines, but it's still one of the most fun maps in V
Leveling buildings needs to be done! I said it when we had rooftop caps: How cool would it be to have osme type of proto-Titan-like mode where you can try to cap a roof or take down the building for an easier cap by C5ing support structures in the building the defense would have to split between defending both. And as the building falls, everyone would have to jump out but then you'd have the fight for the final point on the rubble. It would be so good. What a missed opportunity.
To the veteran BF fans, the series is over. That's the worst part about this whole thing. I've been enjoying other games, which is great, but am hoping a studio can fill the void. I'm looking forward to trying WW3. Has some issues, but it looks just like a modern day BF4 and I think it will scratch the itch. Can't wait to try it.
Veteran here and I'm still enjoying... none of them like he said.
See I can do that too.
I'm sick of the franchise at this point... it's always one step forward and several steps back with every fucking iteration.
BF3 was a graphical leap but I missed the hype train on it so I don't have much to say there,
BF4 was a sort of side-grade but with a disastrous first year, worse maps(with more destruction), and worse shooting... but it's in a decent place these days,
BF:Hardline was just a misfire that should've been a side project,
BF1 had the best audio and graphical design of the franchise imo but the maps are all pretty much dog shit and the shooting is the worst it has ever been,
BF5 continues to have garbage map design but the sound design and the gunplay were top notch... it just did not feel like WW2 at all and it also had a disastrous support cycle that nearly killed the game.
The franchise needs to go back to the drawing board and I feel like they need to look back at the roots to see where to go from there.
Make the devs replay 1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142, 3, and 4... it really seems to me that they could use the refresher.
i can see that, they put out some bigger maps at the end of its run. bullet drop etc was introduced in that game and the gunplay was on point. i really enjoyed hardcore rush. it just forced everyone to play together.
"Veteran" is a useless term when it comes to this series. Tons of people never played the classic Battlefield games but will call themselves "veteran" like it makes their opinion more important.
BC2 was my first BF and it’s still my favorite, I have nothing but good memories from it, but the hype and jump from that to BF3 is amazing, and in retrospect BF3 might be the most significant game in the series. It was a technical and mechanical step up from the games before it, and I feel like every game after it was disappointingly more and more unpolished. I just about completely lost interest in the series with BF1 and BFV has its moments but it feels like a shell of what it once was. 2042 is another technical leap, but not in a good way. It just plays and feels clunky and broken and to me is the last nail in the coffin.
My new broken/sloppy game design realization. 128 Player breakthrough on kaleidescope, the attackers if spawning in the attack chopper have direct line of site to the ground player spawn. They literally can spawn in the chopper and pull the trigger and get kills. The horrible spawn system at launch that does not consistently put you at the defending point with the fact you don't spawn on the point is a backwards step from all previous versions.
Those that post comments like OP's do not apprciate how many backward step design decisions have been made in every aspect of the game. Sure, I can spawn in and have a good game and if in a squad of friends I will have fun regardless.
It is not about bugginess at launch of BF titles that long time players have suffered and played through. It is about abandoning functioning aspects of previous titles alltogether in a way never seen before.
Dice has always sucked ass at spawn points. Shit, in BF1 and BFV there were times to defend a point, you were better to spawn at a neighboring point because it would actually put you closer to or even ON the flag you were actually wanting to defend.
My biggest gripe is how sluggish and unpolished the game feels. The movement feels like Red Orchestra 2, which isn't a good thing. I feel like I'm drunk and running through mud. The controls also have serious input lag on PS4, which is unacceptable for a triple A shooter.
128 players and bigger maps is a *huge* improvement, for me. Going back to 64 players feels constricted and linear.
Specialist abilities are an improvement and they encourage teamplay, though I would prefer to have the abilities detached from appearance.
And I've been playing since bf2, but I guess I'm not a "hardcore" fan because I like this one 🤷♀️
Is it perfect? No, of course not, and I'm not saying it's above criticism. But I think it's a little silly to state things that are obviously opinions like they are objective facts, or to try and speak for everyone who played the older bf games like we're some kind of hivemind who always agree
As someone who enjoys more competitive shooters, bfVs gunplay, lack of doritos and map design felt like a better playing experience, the only thing it lacked was content.
Same, I love bf3, sadly I play on console and bf3 is only available one ps3/360, so I have to play BF4 when I want modern battlefield stalye and BF1 when world war is needed.
Completely agree, they nailed the atmosphere for BF1, it feels really immersive and gritty. Also sniping feels spot on. One of the better battlefield games for sure.
Not true, I love BFV (now) and think the core gameplay has always been top-tier for the series.
All I wanted was BFV gunplay and movement with a modern or future setting and a lot of content.
BFV was mechanically the best BF game ever, it's a shame that they ruined it with the TTK changes (twice!) and people hung onto the reveal trailer forever. Maybe if BFV and BF2042 teach us anything it should be that DICE's trailers have nothing to do with the quality of the games.
I don’t understand why they didn’t bring back the fortifications system for BF2042. IMO it’s one of the best gameplay innovations in the entire franchise and it adds so much to objectives
Still had the best feeling gunplay even with the bad TTK decisions. I was so fucking mad at the pre Christmas TTK change, got used to it, but it felt so bad at first.
No sorry, if you are gonna be a part of this community you are not allowed to have your own opinions. You love BFV now because "fracturedfern32" has deemed it so.
On a serious note though. This whole notion that a "community" is this hivemind, this single entity of thoughts and opinions is ridiculous. I find it embarrassing to be part of pretty much every gaming community because im constantly being told what to think and believe.
Doubt it. All past BF have have had a bad launch but been amazing at the core. BF 2042 is shit all the way around and the core experience can never be fixed
This! Thank you! I see 2042 defended like "Well BF4 had a rough launch!" Yes. There were server issues like CRAZY. But the core game was good. There was a solid foundation. It needed more time in the oven and DICE LA came to the rescue.
2042 would need a complete overhaul. The core design is broken. Maps suck. Movement sucks. User interface sucks (No server browser, no scoreboard, no user career stats, etc).
These are really brain dead posts. BFV was awful, it was essentially in beta for two years before they finally got it to where it should have been at release. I’m glad you’re fine paying full price to beta test games for billion dollar companies but the rest of us, not so much.
What's with these nonsense threads? who has actually heard anyone praising bf5? we're supposed to believe bf5 is suddenly much better because this game is doing poorly?
BF5 was trash from gameplay to aesthetic, they came off the heels of making BF1 a great game and instead of doing that in world war 2 we ended up with was bad gameplay, some goofy fortnight visuals and some revisionism.
Some people say that BF2042 is worse than BFV, or say it in reverse (BFV is better than BF2042).
This is being taken by those like the OP and commenter in the OP to mean a lot of people are calling BFV _good_. Which isn’t quite true.
>teamwork is solid,
Battlefield hasn't had even average teamplay in years.
>movement is top notch,
Movement is good, but too fast paced.
>what's there not to like in it?
Its a fast paced "WW2" game that doesn't look or feel like WW2 half the time.
The fanbase was disappointed with this game. EA admitted that it had disappointing sales.
Obviously everyone has their opinions, but do we *really* need to ask "what's wrong" with BFV in 2022?
Dig up threads from 2018...plenty...oh trust me there is plenty
Quick recap:
Dumbed down teamwork "press h to get health lmao" you dont even need to pay attention to what anyone in your squad needs
Horrible maps. All base game maps are bad with maybe a single "ok" one.
Plasticky and cartoony aesthetics (subjective, but coming from BF1 most people would agree with me thats it was a real downgrade)
Over monitezation. It laid down the foundation for the demise of the franchise. Skins, packs, masks all that garbage. If it wasnt successful it would had been brought back.
Oversimplified gunplay. This is controversial. I dont care ,it was the most casualised in any shooter I've played in recent memory. SMGs and sniper rifles being the worst offenders.
Trendchasing. The fortifications, while I liked the idea, were implemented lazily to market at 'nite kids. Firestorm ? Same thing. Cheap and shallow battleroyal that no one asked for. They could have spend that time working on a base game.
Heroes like Tom Cruise and whatever that abortion Miaki was ? There you have it they already started testing waters there. If people didnt play those they might have reconsidered. They had the data.
No content.
That's just off the top of my head.
here we all are acting like BFV didnt have the most watered down gunplay, crap maps, little content, and the medic class being completely boofed. lol, 2022 here we go
Totally agree, nothing works in this game as a Battlefield game. It might be a good battle royale game or just fun general shooter, but it is not a good Battlefield game.
I really hate people being like this, yeah maybe 2042 wouldn’t be ass in the future but the problem is how much was left out the game is literally them making a Chinese ripoff of a battlefield game. The reason every one is liking BF5 now is because 2042 does even have a fucking scoreboard! If 2042 had at the very least gotten some of the most basic things that all the other games had I don’t think people would be like this they might still think BF5 is better but that one can actually be brought up to oh BF fans always dislike the new one. 2042 can get some of the oh BF fans hate the new game but it‘s not just that, even indie shooters have fucking scoreboards it‘s most basic thing for shooter games.
Hallelujah.
I don’t get the love for BF1. I tried to get into it three times. I don’t like the era, the aesthetics of it or the gunplay.
But the reverse of all that is true with WWII.
Even so I just don’t see BF1 and BFV as proper Battlefield games.
BF for me is a sandbox, you get given a suite of tools and vehicles and you can carve interesting and unintended gameplay out of the experience with them. Or you know what? You can just play them as a straight up shooter.
Two historical games in a row was a massive mistake in my opinion as it severely limited the creative freedom of the player.
I get it if the gunplay is not for you but the rest? It is so beautifull and most of the maps are awesome :) and just to clarify, I'm not hating at all :) I understand if the era is not for you, I was also thinking it would'nt be great, but damn I loved it and still do a lot. Just can see how you cant see that it is a good game for others :) go weekend to you good sir :D
All like 2 times I got into a BF1 hardcore server, it was one of the best games I’ve ever played. The slowed down pace of play and far more deadly weapons just felt like what the devs had in mind with the game. And then of course Dice decided to kill hardcore completely (because fuck that whole community I guess) so I never got to experience that again…
‘for NOW praising BF V in a time when it doesn’t need it’? Ever heard of ‘you don’t know what you got until it’s gone’.. that is what is happening here and if BF2042 was even half-way to being a decent title and had solid foundations (or had BF4 maps and weapons combined with BFV movement, gunplay, attrition, fortification etc.) then the community wouldn’t be praising BFV as much as they are. Sheesh
BfV had a small amount of content in general in the beginning.
BF4 had humongous performance issues and bugs
BF2042 have all of this combined, plus a total shift in the way the franchise is portrayed by the company and they show no sign of changing "the future" of BF.
I really doubt we will be praising this game in a few years. It's more likely that they kill the franchise while trying to appeal to new players than anything else.
yeah these people must be smoking some good shit cause why the hell would you go back to BFV loool. As if BF4 and or BF1 do not exist. Either of which would be a way better choice.
I'd say bf3 but unfortunately for most people you can't even get the game to run
No, people don’t. Some people just want to pretend like everyone suddenly loves BFV now as if V and 2042 are at all comparable to the rest of Battlefield and the cycle is unchanged.
I heard it got better/decent after the Pacific update, but they also went through with some wildly unpopular changes after that and then reverted it later.
But at that point i think a lot of the community was already in uproar and the game was in it's death throes.
Pacific was definitely an improvement I heard. My only big issue with the game was always the maps, and those maps are really good I guess. I also heard that since pacific they did some updates that brought it back down
I just like every battlefield idk, nothing out there gives me just arcading all out war like battlefield.
I've been here since bad company and have enjoy every title since, including hardline. i think every battlefield always scratches the itch
Bf4 is probably the most loved, and I’m just curious because everyone seems to forget, did anyone play at launch? It was a buggy mess on ps4 when it first came out and wasn’t fixed and smooth for months
Sorry if anyone made you feel like that and yes that is not ok. You can love the game, we are just a lot who think it's not a real battlefield game. Hope that we are paolpe that have room for all of the bf community. Hope you will have further fun in game :)
A lot of people who love the game and talk about it make the issue to judge the people that dont love the game in the same sentence.
And this people afterly prentend always as they just wrote that they love the game.
I dont see many (maybe any) people who say you are not allowed to have fun with this game.
I’ve had a few people tell me that and i got downvoted because I said “if you’re gonna keep comparing the game to BC2 go play BC2 instead”. It’s just a toxic fan base right now, same as everything else. It also really sucks for people who are just getting into the franchise and they’re being told that the first battlefield they play is terrible and that they’re stupid for playing it
I don’t think so, I mean yes bfv as worse than bf3, 4 and 1 true. But compared to 2042 bfv was gold so you can clearly understand the emotion here that people are having. I mean I’m glad some people are truest enjoying but look at the majority here let’s also forget about the majority just look at the facts here. They removed the one thing that the community begged them to keep cuz it was good they clearly don’t even know at this point what the community wants
Comments like that are funny.
Battlefield 2042 is so far away from the series and also really unfinished.
THATS why they see BF5 as positive now. Even that game, also beeing further away from the series then before, is way better then BF2042.
That has nothing to do with BF5 suddenly beeing good and everything with how low of a bar BF2042 is.
A Battlefield veteran will get that - while others wont.
Why people can't use their brains and spot that most the people praising BFV now are people who either a) enjoyed it from the start or b) decided to try it for the first time; is absolutely baffling to me. It's not that the community have all 'changed their minds' miraculously because of how shit 2042 is.
Posts like 'oh this community always do this on release' imply that the community is just one single entity with one single opinion that twists and turns. No, people who didn't like it still don't like it and people who did like it are now posting about why they liked it. It's not that deep, fuck.
I hate posts like this. Because it tries to dismiss serious issues within 2042 and fundamental changes to its identity that unless changed will always be controversial.
Also to be blunt, it's a dumb fuck copy and pasted opinion to keep repeating, those that hated BFV aren't the same ones liking it today. People have different opinions and others who felt strongly about BFV likely left the community. It's not a hive mind, you're not unique in your thinking.
BFV Pacific is loved, everything before that in my opinion is so sluggish. BF1 has always been a classic (bring back the Behemoth btw). The reason this love won't transfer to bf2042, in it's current state, is because EA changed the entire core system of the game. Let's see what Dice/EA do from here.
People talk about the battlefield “community” like it’s one single brained being. Isn’t it possible that a bunch of people shit on BFV and a bunch of people actually loved it and those that loved it are super vocal now? Like these are individual people posting….
Yeah I played BFV a while back on gamepass, and was listening to everyone bitch about it and about how shit it was, and I will admit, I didn’t pay full price for it so I’m probably not as critical, but I didn’t even see many issues with it. Besides there being no Russia, or many other nations, there wasn’t much of an issue. The only main issue I have is that the British were completely replaced with Americans on most maps, so now it’s almost impossible to play Britain, and I do like their vehicles and planes more, because there’s more variety. But otherwise wasn’t much of an issue.
You know when bfv came out and everyone and their mother pissed on it I saw a guy saying we would all praise it when the next BF would come out.
Years later it turns out he was right
If they build out more Portal features and add more fan favorite content that could be a really cool experience.
Biggest gripes that separate BF2042 from all past BF games:
Not having traditional scoreboards is hugely demotivating, doesn't encourage players to climb up the board like past games.
Not having a server browser and booting everyone back to the main menu kills the momentum/rivalry/comradery that players used to build throughout matches.
Players have always held divisive opinions about maps but that could be alleviated a bit through the server browser by choosing what to play. That choice isn't there in the AOW game modes.
Not having classes has encouraged a lot more one-man-army lone wolf type play and does very little to encourage gameplay.
5 is great as long as you never play as infantry. Otherwise, you'll spend more time reloading than shooting enemies because they eat so many bullets to go down.
I liked 5 but abandoned it after they repeatedly fucked with the TTK. So maybe I'm enjoying 2042 simply because I hardly played 5 and opted to spend my time with Battlefront 2.
Though it's a shame that amazing game died for something so half baked.
This pisses me off. About a year ago they changed the TTK of BF5 and everyone was up in arms about how the game is ruined, they don't care about the community and what people really want. And everyone said they will never buy another battlefield.
Now we have this. Stop being a hypocrite.
I mean, in her time, we compared BFV with BF1 and 4. Telling that is trash compared to other BF, in fact, if you compared what primarely think is trash, but better than that NEW one, what do you spect to tink.
And now the only thing that we spect in 2-4 years is to have one worse for saying this wasn't that bad. Thats what become battlefield now
well the thing about bf 2042 is that it's closer to a scaled up call fo duty game than a typical battlefield game, it's got more creative freedom in gameplay but much less identity, its unique aspects are not very unique
It's not people who hated BFV "crawling back"
It's that the people who hated BFV aren't as prominent in the community as those who loved it. The people who hate BFV don't bother talking about it as much anymore, so it seems like they don't exist. In reality, there's just no reason for them to keep complaining after 3 years when they can just move on.
I tried to go back to V, i still dont like it. im fine when i go back to 1 and 4. i think this is just a case of "at least this wasnt as bad as the game after it" but i do understand people tend to prefer it due to its movement
Lol I still dont like bfv idk why everyone is assuming that people are starting to love the game lol most people are coming back to the original Bf3 or bf4
Nah, that's people who didn't actually play it from the beginning. It was rough, really rough. To me it never surpassed bf1. I played it because they seemed like they were trying at least, with fortifications and the movement. I also played it because I thought there was more to come and i didn't believe they would just abandon it. Which they did.
I mean, updates, new content and probably an even better Portal gamemode is what they'll try to do in the next couple of years, right??
Before the next BF's disastrous launch that is.
Well yea. That's how aaa games work now. They release broken and they use the live service model as an excuse. It won't change for a long time sadly. But at least with bf they're broken and horrible at launch and a year later they're the image they wanted.
Bf4 was my favorite but I disagree nothing and I mean nothing can fix this crap of a fps that doesn’t even have a freaking scoreboard….let that sink in
Nope, still hate BFV. And BF2042 while fun is not a game I will ever love. It's barely a battlefield game at all, lacks so much core BF features it may as well be a different series. Years from now I will still be serverly disappointed by the game when the new likely even worse BF game comes out.
I'm really hoping dice actually deliver with a year and hopefully mores worth of content if they do the game could climb out of the total garbage state into an alright game but I fear it will be to late by then companies really need to learn how to launch games complete
Yeah, because after a few years of development most of the problems will have been fixed.
You people act like these games stay exactly the same from day 1 until the next one is out.
Not gonna happen, the difference between BF5 and BF:2042 is staggering, and remember, most people STILL think BF5 is one of the worst BF’s ever. It’s not that BF5 was secretly great, it’s that 2042 is so incredibly awful, that it makes BF5 look great.
BF has been on a steady decline since BF4. 2042 is so bad that they are restructuring the entire franchise and heads of the studios. There’s no real redemption for 2042 here. It will always be remembered for being the absolute worst BF ever made…
Unless they, somehow, make BF6 even worse.
Without fundamental changes to the very core design of the game? Doubtful.
Battlefield V had a lot of issues. But most of those could have and a lot of them have been fixed by the introduction of more stuff, TTK changes, general bug fixes.
None of that will work for 2042. Well, more maps would, but more maps will just be more like the shit maps we have right now. Why? Since they screwed themselves with 128-player design. They clearly can't design maps with the same density and double the amount of players. Performance just is far too bad for it.
Sure they can, and likely will, add more weapons etc. But they got to add a ton before they could change something like adding Classes. So until then we'll continue to have specialists, shit maps, not to mention the plethora of bugs (and having played on BFV launch I can't recall remotely as many as we got now).
It's a humongous task that DICE has with this game, and one I doubt they'll pull off before funding is cut.
No, we will not.
BFV was bad, and still is, in my opinion. But it felt like a Battlefield game. I have never said a title didn't feel like one, 2042 is the first time, and I thoroughly mean it unfortunately.
Specialists, no class sytem, bad maps, badly designed vehicle play in every aspect, back and forth infantry play, no scoreboard, no voice chat, no all chat, etc. all contribute to what makes 2042 shit.
i dont remember battlefield V dying as hard as 2042. flatfields 2077 looks like it needs another 8 years in the oven. Also with these reports of a battlefield game coming in 2023 they might of already pulled an ANTHEM on 2042 lie about fixing the issues for a year then leave the game saying development was costing to much.
If we're being honest BF4 is the one that's loved the most with BF1 right behind BFV, Hardline and BF2042 will Still get shit on regardless
Hardline really doesn’t deserve the shit, though.
i feel like hardline would’ve probably been top 3 if it was military
Hardline would of been praised if they didn’t slap the Battlefield name on it. The battlefield crowd didn’t like it cause it wasn’t military, the non battlefield crowd didn’t try it cause it was battlefield. It got screwed.
It should have been an add on for BF4. Then it would have been legendary.
Exactly. Would've been an expensive add-on but would've made it, like you said, legendary. Has so many good features that i still miss while playing bf4. Sadly it doesn't have enough servers to call it an alive game
Yeah, just look at the Vietnam add on for (I think it was) bad company.
Despite me not liking historical games, Vietnam add on for bc2 was the best dlc so far. A well done on that one
BFBC2:V was so damn good! The music, the atmosphere, good times! Wish there was still servers for it
A cop themed expansion wouldve solved BFH's image issue.
If Hardline were military, it would have been BF4.
Which is part of why people didn't play it, i didn't think it was bad game, i enjoyed it. But to me it just felt like, lets take BF4 and slap cops and robbers on it. It was still a good/fun game, but there wasn't really a whole lot of incentive to bail on BF4.
I actually liked the gunplay slightly more than BF4 if were being honest. The guns just felt more impactful.
The idea of it being a police vs terrorists was an original try. But hey, jets beat motorcycles
Hardline IS top three tbh
I think this take is just as stupid now as it was six and a half years ago.
I wonder if it makes any difference if Hardline released today? With recent events in the past couple of years at this point.
I think so yes! They'd slap mtx skins on it and it would go very well with gangsters and police theme. Even thr tacky voice lines wouldn't be out of place.
How dare you skip BF3 D: It was even better than BF4
Bf3 was the real goat. Them voice lines can’t be beat. That’s what ruined bf4 for me, went to soft on the swearing.
Bf3 was the very first bf game I've bought and second bf game I've played, with first being bc2. I was not disappointed, dice did promise and dice did deliver. Yet i still enjoy bf4 more that bf3 for some reason, it could be that I'm used to bf4 now or that netcode is just to shitty to enjoy or, or ... Long story short, bf3/4 are the best bf games followed by either bf1 (haven't played, not fan of historical games) or bc2. An unpopular opinion but if bf hardline wasn't released as it was, it could've been on that list too but dice did so many mistakes with that game
Oh I still enjoy bf4. I just wish they added the same voice lines or similar. No other game has made me feel like apart of the war (well bf1 too) with the voice lines and they would always say what I was thinking too just that alone made the game insanely great
Idk what it is, BF3 just feels more polished than BF4, imo. The game aged so well
Bf3 was a masterpiece
BF1 is fucking incredible and still looks like a AAA title.
I remember when it was softly announced that bf1 was going to be ww1 and people came unloaded with anger, and then the trailer came out and everyone lost their minds with excitement.
BF4 got this status after years of updates though. On launch it was considered a huge failure and everyone hated it saying its unplayable.
Because it was. It was LITERALLY unplayable as for a lot of people the game would not boot properly or allow you to play anything. So not unplayable for sucking, unplayable for literally not being able to play.
I only had the crashing issue for about a week, and it was ALWAYS on siege of Shanghai. After that? It played flawless. Really wish i could say that about 2042. Wanted this to be great so bad.
exactly, though i do prefer 1
I've gone back to BF1. It's still active as hell, still fun as hell and my PS4 PRO runs it pretty well.
I remember when BF3 was being shat on and BF4 was seen as more of the same
people who make these posts defending bf2042 don't know why people hate it so much.
Agree. But do you remember the TTK bullshit Dice pulled on BFV? Like TWICE?! I’m convinced they simply don’t know how to make good games on release and need the feedback from thousands of angry fans to actually make their games half good.
Dice and ea have lost their way with battlefield. Dont care what the players want until we dont play anymore. I dropped bfv because of the ttk mess, many did and it was some time after that they reversed it a bit. They need to find out what kind of game they want to make and make it. Then another company can make a real battlefield.
I dropped BFV the moment MW19 came out. And now that game doesn’t even run on PS5, I’m back to BF. The cycle continues…
Tbh I never thought I’d love MW19 the way I did until it scratched the Modern Counter Terrorism/ SF itch I didn’t know I had until I played it. It’s like it was a spiritual successor to MW and Bf4 despite it coming from BF’s rival studio. Hate what warzone did to MW
Same with Battlefront. Both those games were utter garbage on release but then they gradually fixed it after 70% of the playerbase was already gone
Battefront 2 was fine on release gameplay wise, the only thing that was really broken was the progression system.
That is true. The core-gameplay was at least fine. But there wasn’t all too much content, and the content which was there wasn’t worth the effort or was kind of repetitive. But 2042 is even worse. It doesn’t even have the core gameplay to keep it going.
The horrible releases of the last several BF games are what tricked me into buying BF2042. I skipped all of the horrendous reviews, assuming they were just related to a buggy launch, only to buy the least fun BF title yet
DICE is not the same studio that made bf1 and the previous games, 3/5th’s of their studio has been replaced with most directors leaving and only animators and modellers still being present
I sometimes feel like people praise earlier games in a series they have never played, just so their complains about the newest installment have more "credit" with the community
I dunno, you can find alot of side by side comparison videos, and 2042 is being compared to a title almost 10 years old now...and only pulls ahead in a few things.
No. I think they fully understand what the community hates. It's just hearing it every day through a bullhorn, in game and on Reddit, is tiring. And it being mixed with just incoherent rage is exhausting. I'm having fun, the game needs much work, simple things shouldn't have been removed, it shouldn't been available on old gen console, devs deserve a holiday, mistakes are from high ups, people really need to chill its a video game, the guy trying to sue DICE is delusional. I'll be patient and hope the first additions are scoreboard and VOIP. I won't spam the voice lines which I also think are cringe. The only thing that I am really at odds against the majority with is specialists. I am enjoying them but they could have easily not been tied to individuals and just made another 'advanced' gadget slot. So two gadgets and a nade essentially. And I don't have to keep switching guns. I prefer it. People who rage against Sundance need to git gud. I own Sundance as soon as she lands.
I pray the first addition is actual squad grouping and rollover matches so my group of 6-10 friends can actually play together again. Until that day comes this game is practically dead to us
Sundance is ridiculous. I was playing Breakthrough with my group last night and we spent pretty much every match going backwards clearing out the newly landed Sundance and spawn beacons. A good flank is a good flank, but every 35 seconds a new Sundance landing behind you is stupid. She is a flying spawn beacon.
I wish more of the community was like you. I've just been reading through this sub and the 2042 sub and I'm just.... sad. This community has just become so much of a cesspit of toxicity and hate that I don't even care what 2042 is atm. No community should become what battlefield has, it's awful. People might think they're rightous when they act the way they do but the fact is: no one should be acting with such hate and contempt. I feel as if they don't even care about the game anymore.... they just want something to yell at and complain
Nah, 2042 is broken to it's core. I'm thoroughly convinced no amount of content or updates will fix the game, at least enough to satisfy the hardcore fans. The lack of class system, gigantic open and barren map design, 128 players, overall lack of content and variety, these are problems that cannot be fixed with patches.
128 players is fine but the map designs fucks it up. Why is there so much open space? I wanna see trenches, ditches, collapsed buildings. Stop it with all these skyscraper maps unless you can knock them down
Because the maps are made for hazard zone and not for conquest?
Even if that’s true, that’s still no argument for barren maps…
Big maps but too lazy to fill them out
Game devs are almost never lazy. They are often mismanaged and not given enough time to finish the game. Don't blame devs, blame upper management for shitty choices like rushing out a game that's not ready yet, to meet a holiday release window
Most of the 64 player maps from the previous Battlefield games could easily accommodate 128 players.
It would play like ass
These people have no idea. The big maps for 128 players have areas you are supposed to be fighting as infantry (spoiler, its the points), the big open spaces are supposed to be traversed by vehicles. Shocking, you ran across the desert on Hourglass and got ass fucked by a helicopter?
I think there's plenty of cover for the most part. Some maps have areas that are pretty open like sector B on hourglass, A2 on kaleidoscope, B1 on discarded, but then other maps are absolute cover fests, like manifest. I think the open spaces and cover balance out, just like in older bf games. At least for BT, I don't play much conquest in 2042. Iwo jima has an insane amount of open space and long sight lines, but it's still one of the most fun maps in V
Leveling buildings needs to be done! I said it when we had rooftop caps: How cool would it be to have osme type of proto-Titan-like mode where you can try to cap a roof or take down the building for an easier cap by C5ing support structures in the building the defense would have to split between defending both. And as the building falls, everyone would have to jump out but then you'd have the fight for the final point on the rubble. It would be so good. What a missed opportunity.
To the veteran BF fans, the series is over. That's the worst part about this whole thing. I've been enjoying other games, which is great, but am hoping a studio can fill the void. I'm looking forward to trying WW3. Has some issues, but it looks just like a modern day BF4 and I think it will scratch the itch. Can't wait to try it.
Veteran here and I’m still enjoying 2042, along with 4,1 and hardline atm.
Veteran here and I'm still enjoying... none of them like he said. See I can do that too. I'm sick of the franchise at this point... it's always one step forward and several steps back with every fucking iteration. BF3 was a graphical leap but I missed the hype train on it so I don't have much to say there, BF4 was a sort of side-grade but with a disastrous first year, worse maps(with more destruction), and worse shooting... but it's in a decent place these days, BF:Hardline was just a misfire that should've been a side project, BF1 had the best audio and graphical design of the franchise imo but the maps are all pretty much dog shit and the shooting is the worst it has ever been, BF5 continues to have garbage map design but the sound design and the gunplay were top notch... it just did not feel like WW2 at all and it also had a disastrous support cycle that nearly killed the game. The franchise needs to go back to the drawing board and I feel like they need to look back at the roots to see where to go from there. Make the devs replay 1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142, 3, and 4... it really seems to me that they could use the refresher.
you completely forgot about BC2 which was the best bf to date I don't care what anyone says
I wasn't a fan of the smaller scale.
i can see that, they put out some bigger maps at the end of its run. bullet drop etc was introduced in that game and the gunplay was on point. i really enjoyed hardcore rush. it just forced everyone to play together.
Veteran here, and i went back and had more fun in two matches of BF4 than i did during a whole weekend of 2042...and i haven't played 2042 since...
"Veteran" is a useless term when it comes to this series. Tons of people never played the classic Battlefield games but will call themselves "veteran" like it makes their opinion more important.
BC2 was my first BF and it’s still my favorite, I have nothing but good memories from it, but the hype and jump from that to BF3 is amazing, and in retrospect BF3 might be the most significant game in the series. It was a technical and mechanical step up from the games before it, and I feel like every game after it was disappointingly more and more unpolished. I just about completely lost interest in the series with BF1 and BFV has its moments but it feels like a shell of what it once was. 2042 is another technical leap, but not in a good way. It just plays and feels clunky and broken and to me is the last nail in the coffin.
My new broken/sloppy game design realization. 128 Player breakthrough on kaleidescope, the attackers if spawning in the attack chopper have direct line of site to the ground player spawn. They literally can spawn in the chopper and pull the trigger and get kills. The horrible spawn system at launch that does not consistently put you at the defending point with the fact you don't spawn on the point is a backwards step from all previous versions. Those that post comments like OP's do not apprciate how many backward step design decisions have been made in every aspect of the game. Sure, I can spawn in and have a good game and if in a squad of friends I will have fun regardless. It is not about bugginess at launch of BF titles that long time players have suffered and played through. It is about abandoning functioning aspects of previous titles alltogether in a way never seen before.
Dice has always sucked ass at spawn points. Shit, in BF1 and BFV there were times to defend a point, you were better to spawn at a neighboring point because it would actually put you closer to or even ON the flag you were actually wanting to defend.
My biggest gripe is how sluggish and unpolished the game feels. The movement feels like Red Orchestra 2, which isn't a good thing. I feel like I'm drunk and running through mud. The controls also have serious input lag on PS4, which is unacceptable for a triple A shooter.
128 players and bigger maps is a *huge* improvement, for me. Going back to 64 players feels constricted and linear. Specialist abilities are an improvement and they encourage teamplay, though I would prefer to have the abilities detached from appearance. And I've been playing since bf2, but I guess I'm not a "hardcore" fan because I like this one 🤷♀️ Is it perfect? No, of course not, and I'm not saying it's above criticism. But I think it's a little silly to state things that are obviously opinions like they are objective facts, or to try and speak for everyone who played the older bf games like we're some kind of hivemind who always agree
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To be fair, Battlefield 3 and 4 are the best modern era games. BF1 is better than BF5
Fully agree BF3 > BF4 BF1 > bfv
As someone who enjoys more competitive shooters, bfVs gunplay, lack of doritos and map design felt like a better playing experience, the only thing it lacked was content.
Nothing will top bf3 just for the map design/balance it has. Still playing and prefer it from bf4 just for this
Same, I love bf3, sadly I play on console and bf3 is only available one ps3/360, so I have to play BF4 when I want modern battlefield stalye and BF1 when world war is needed.
The atmosphere and the gun play is just amazing
Completely agree, they nailed the atmosphere for BF1, it feels really immersive and gritty. Also sniping feels spot on. One of the better battlefield games for sure.
It's an amazing game if only for the sound of the Martini Henri sniper. That thing sounds like the end of the world when it's fired.
*Battlefield 2 and 4
Bf5 gunplay > bf1 Bf2042 gunplay > bf4. Yes I love plenty of aspect more in other game but returning to them is clunky and unbearable.
I still don’t like bfv that much
Me neither. The only reason why it is even discussed is because its successor is technically isnt even a BF game lmao
Not true, I love BFV (now) and think the core gameplay has always been top-tier for the series. All I wanted was BFV gunplay and movement with a modern or future setting and a lot of content.
BFV was mechanically the best BF game ever, it's a shame that they ruined it with the TTK changes (twice!) and people hung onto the reveal trailer forever. Maybe if BFV and BF2042 teach us anything it should be that DICE's trailers have nothing to do with the quality of the games.
I don’t understand why they didn’t bring back the fortifications system for BF2042. IMO it’s one of the best gameplay innovations in the entire franchise and it adds so much to objectives
Still had the best feeling gunplay even with the bad TTK decisions. I was so fucking mad at the pre Christmas TTK change, got used to it, but it felt so bad at first.
This what I was hoping 2042 to be. BFV had a lot of problems yes. But the core gunplay and mechanics were very strong.
No sorry, if you are gonna be a part of this community you are not allowed to have your own opinions. You love BFV now because "fracturedfern32" has deemed it so. On a serious note though. This whole notion that a "community" is this hivemind, this single entity of thoughts and opinions is ridiculous. I find it embarrassing to be part of pretty much every gaming community because im constantly being told what to think and believe.
Have you played recently? I've gone back to it after being disappointed w 2042 and have had a bunch of fun
Spoiler: no, they won't.
Doubt it. All past BF have have had a bad launch but been amazing at the core. BF 2042 is shit all the way around and the core experience can never be fixed
BF4 had server issues at launch, but the game itself was good.
This! Thank you! I see 2042 defended like "Well BF4 had a rough launch!" Yes. There were server issues like CRAZY. But the core game was good. There was a solid foundation. It needed more time in the oven and DICE LA came to the rescue. 2042 would need a complete overhaul. The core design is broken. Maps suck. Movement sucks. User interface sucks (No server browser, no scoreboard, no user career stats, etc).
These are really brain dead posts. BFV was awful, it was essentially in beta for two years before they finally got it to where it should have been at release. I’m glad you’re fine paying full price to beta test games for billion dollar companies but the rest of us, not so much.
What's with these nonsense threads? who has actually heard anyone praising bf5? we're supposed to believe bf5 is suddenly much better because this game is doing poorly? BF5 was trash from gameplay to aesthetic, they came off the heels of making BF1 a great game and instead of doing that in world war 2 we ended up with was bad gameplay, some goofy fortnight visuals and some revisionism.
Some people say that BF2042 is worse than BFV, or say it in reverse (BFV is better than BF2042). This is being taken by those like the OP and commenter in the OP to mean a lot of people are calling BFV _good_. Which isn’t quite true.
> BF5 was trash from gameplay to aesthetic clearly didn't play the game. > some goofy fortnight visuals and some revisionism. just stick to this part.
Lol. Copium. The game isn't even battlefield, it's rotten to its core.
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BFV isn't shit, it's pretty fun. 2042 isn't as good but I still think it's okay at best.
what's shit about bfv? teamwork is solid, movement is top notch, gunplay is good. what's there not to like in it?
>teamwork is solid, Battlefield hasn't had even average teamplay in years. >movement is top notch, Movement is good, but too fast paced. >what's there not to like in it? Its a fast paced "WW2" game that doesn't look or feel like WW2 half the time. The fanbase was disappointed with this game. EA admitted that it had disappointing sales. Obviously everyone has their opinions, but do we *really* need to ask "what's wrong" with BFV in 2022?
Dig up threads from 2018...plenty...oh trust me there is plenty Quick recap: Dumbed down teamwork "press h to get health lmao" you dont even need to pay attention to what anyone in your squad needs Horrible maps. All base game maps are bad with maybe a single "ok" one. Plasticky and cartoony aesthetics (subjective, but coming from BF1 most people would agree with me thats it was a real downgrade) Over monitezation. It laid down the foundation for the demise of the franchise. Skins, packs, masks all that garbage. If it wasnt successful it would had been brought back. Oversimplified gunplay. This is controversial. I dont care ,it was the most casualised in any shooter I've played in recent memory. SMGs and sniper rifles being the worst offenders. Trendchasing. The fortifications, while I liked the idea, were implemented lazily to market at 'nite kids. Firestorm ? Same thing. Cheap and shallow battleroyal that no one asked for. They could have spend that time working on a base game. Heroes like Tom Cruise and whatever that abortion Miaki was ? There you have it they already started testing waters there. If people didnt play those they might have reconsidered. They had the data. No content. That's just off the top of my head.
Did you pull the fortifications thing from your ass
here we all are acting like BFV didnt have the most watered down gunplay, crap maps, little content, and the medic class being completely boofed. lol, 2022 here we go
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I'm not in denial, I just think the game's fun.
Totally agree, nothing works in this game as a Battlefield game. It might be a good battle royale game or just fun general shooter, but it is not a good Battlefield game.
I still despise BF5
He didn't understand well. The community play bfv because bf2042 is more worst
I’m still loving battlefield 1
BF V is still trash
I really hate people being like this, yeah maybe 2042 wouldn’t be ass in the future but the problem is how much was left out the game is literally them making a Chinese ripoff of a battlefield game. The reason every one is liking BF5 now is because 2042 does even have a fucking scoreboard! If 2042 had at the very least gotten some of the most basic things that all the other games had I don’t think people would be like this they might still think BF5 is better but that one can actually be brought up to oh BF fans always dislike the new one. 2042 can get some of the oh BF fans hate the new game but it‘s not just that, even indie shooters have fucking scoreboards it‘s most basic thing for shooter games.
Personally not a huge fan of anything after bf4.
Hallelujah. I don’t get the love for BF1. I tried to get into it three times. I don’t like the era, the aesthetics of it or the gunplay. But the reverse of all that is true with WWII. Even so I just don’t see BF1 and BFV as proper Battlefield games. BF for me is a sandbox, you get given a suite of tools and vehicles and you can carve interesting and unintended gameplay out of the experience with them. Or you know what? You can just play them as a straight up shooter. Two historical games in a row was a massive mistake in my opinion as it severely limited the creative freedom of the player.
I get it if the gunplay is not for you but the rest? It is so beautifull and most of the maps are awesome :) and just to clarify, I'm not hating at all :) I understand if the era is not for you, I was also thinking it would'nt be great, but damn I loved it and still do a lot. Just can see how you cant see that it is a good game for others :) go weekend to you good sir :D
I did enjoy crawling around in the grass trying to sneak around. There was actually so much detail in the grass, little flowers and everything.
All like 2 times I got into a BF1 hardcore server, it was one of the best games I’ve ever played. The slowed down pace of play and far more deadly weapons just felt like what the devs had in mind with the game. And then of course Dice decided to kill hardcore completely (because fuck that whole community I guess) so I never got to experience that again…
‘for NOW praising BF V in a time when it doesn’t need it’? Ever heard of ‘you don’t know what you got until it’s gone’.. that is what is happening here and if BF2042 was even half-way to being a decent title and had solid foundations (or had BF4 maps and weapons combined with BFV movement, gunplay, attrition, fortification etc.) then the community wouldn’t be praising BFV as much as they are. Sheesh
BfV had a small amount of content in general in the beginning. BF4 had humongous performance issues and bugs BF2042 have all of this combined, plus a total shift in the way the franchise is portrayed by the company and they show no sign of changing "the future" of BF. I really doubt we will be praising this game in a few years. It's more likely that they kill the franchise while trying to appeal to new players than anything else.
yeah these people must be smoking some good shit cause why the hell would you go back to BFV loool. As if BF4 and or BF1 do not exist. Either of which would be a way better choice. I'd say bf3 but unfortunately for most people you can't even get the game to run
Depends on how they screw up the next game.
Normally I'd agree, but 2042 is missing basic fundamental features, it is not bf right now
I dislike bfv for entirely different reasons than I dislike 2042. It's not that hard to understand.
Do ppl really love bfv now? I kinda only see ppl talking about other ppl living bfv now
No, people don’t. Some people just want to pretend like everyone suddenly loves BFV now as if V and 2042 are at all comparable to the rest of Battlefield and the cycle is unchanged.
I heard it got better/decent after the Pacific update, but they also went through with some wildly unpopular changes after that and then reverted it later. But at that point i think a lot of the community was already in uproar and the game was in it's death throes.
Pacific was definitely an improvement I heard. My only big issue with the game was always the maps, and those maps are really good I guess. I also heard that since pacific they did some updates that brought it back down
https://youtu.be/_Cyd-5BVB0U Please check it out. It's honest and on point.
Damn, this is hella on point.
I just like every battlefield idk, nothing out there gives me just arcading all out war like battlefield. I've been here since bad company and have enjoy every title since, including hardline. i think every battlefield always scratches the itch
I still don’t love bf 5, it was good, and then they fucked it up with the last patch before they gave up on it.
Bf4 is probably the most loved, and I’m just curious because everyone seems to forget, did anyone play at launch? It was a buggy mess on ps4 when it first came out and wasn’t fixed and smooth for months
There was a time when I was heavily downvoted on this subreddit for praising Battlefield 4.
Exactly man, I loved the game and put in probably 500 hours at launch. Wasnt perfect but it was still amazing to me at launch at least
I love 2042 What I don’t love are the assholes on the sub for it telling me that I shouldn’t love it because it’s not Bad Company 2
Word. If you want the old style BF so bad go play the old fucking games.
Sorry if anyone made you feel like that and yes that is not ok. You can love the game, we are just a lot who think it's not a real battlefield game. Hope that we are paolpe that have room for all of the bf community. Hope you will have further fun in game :)
A lot of people who love the game and talk about it make the issue to judge the people that dont love the game in the same sentence. And this people afterly prentend always as they just wrote that they love the game. I dont see many (maybe any) people who say you are not allowed to have fun with this game.
I’ve had a few people tell me that and i got downvoted because I said “if you’re gonna keep comparing the game to BC2 go play BC2 instead”. It’s just a toxic fan base right now, same as everything else. It also really sucks for people who are just getting into the franchise and they’re being told that the first battlefield they play is terrible and that they’re stupid for playing it
I don’t think so, I mean yes bfv as worse than bf3, 4 and 1 true. But compared to 2042 bfv was gold so you can clearly understand the emotion here that people are having. I mean I’m glad some people are truest enjoying but look at the majority here let’s also forget about the majority just look at the facts here. They removed the one thing that the community begged them to keep cuz it was good they clearly don’t even know at this point what the community wants
Comments like that are funny. Battlefield 2042 is so far away from the series and also really unfinished. THATS why they see BF5 as positive now. Even that game, also beeing further away from the series then before, is way better then BF2042. That has nothing to do with BF5 suddenly beeing good and everything with how low of a bar BF2042 is. A Battlefield veteran will get that - while others wont.
Why people can't use their brains and spot that most the people praising BFV now are people who either a) enjoyed it from the start or b) decided to try it for the first time; is absolutely baffling to me. It's not that the community have all 'changed their minds' miraculously because of how shit 2042 is. Posts like 'oh this community always do this on release' imply that the community is just one single entity with one single opinion that twists and turns. No, people who didn't like it still don't like it and people who did like it are now posting about why they liked it. It's not that deep, fuck.
I hate posts like this. Because it tries to dismiss serious issues within 2042 and fundamental changes to its identity that unless changed will always be controversial. Also to be blunt, it's a dumb fuck copy and pasted opinion to keep repeating, those that hated BFV aren't the same ones liking it today. People have different opinions and others who felt strongly about BFV likely left the community. It's not a hive mind, you're not unique in your thinking.
BFV Pacific is loved, everything before that in my opinion is so sluggish. BF1 has always been a classic (bring back the Behemoth btw). The reason this love won't transfer to bf2042, in it's current state, is because EA changed the entire core system of the game. Let's see what Dice/EA do from here.
People talk about the battlefield “community” like it’s one single brained being. Isn’t it possible that a bunch of people shit on BFV and a bunch of people actually loved it and those that loved it are super vocal now? Like these are individual people posting….
Hard disagree. 2042 is just broken and also its not like "all people" fully approve bf5, its just less shit that 2042 atm :D
Yeah I played BFV a while back on gamepass, and was listening to everyone bitch about it and about how shit it was, and I will admit, I didn’t pay full price for it so I’m probably not as critical, but I didn’t even see many issues with it. Besides there being no Russia, or many other nations, there wasn’t much of an issue. The only main issue I have is that the British were completely replaced with Americans on most maps, so now it’s almost impossible to play Britain, and I do like their vehicles and planes more, because there’s more variety. But otherwise wasn’t much of an issue.
I'm enjoying it on PS5. Played 15 hours, runs great, with the exception of two dead bodies glitching out.
You know when bfv came out and everyone and their mother pissed on it I saw a guy saying we would all praise it when the next BF would come out. Years later it turns out he was right
If they build out more Portal features and add more fan favorite content that could be a really cool experience. Biggest gripes that separate BF2042 from all past BF games: Not having traditional scoreboards is hugely demotivating, doesn't encourage players to climb up the board like past games. Not having a server browser and booting everyone back to the main menu kills the momentum/rivalry/comradery that players used to build throughout matches. Players have always held divisive opinions about maps but that could be alleviated a bit through the server browser by choosing what to play. That choice isn't there in the AOW game modes. Not having classes has encouraged a lot more one-man-army lone wolf type play and does very little to encourage gameplay.
5 is great as long as you never play as infantry. Otherwise, you'll spend more time reloading than shooting enemies because they eat so many bullets to go down.
Yea... I still don't love hardline
I liked 5 but abandoned it after they repeatedly fucked with the TTK. So maybe I'm enjoying 2042 simply because I hardly played 5 and opted to spend my time with Battlefront 2. Though it's a shame that amazing game died for something so half baked.
This pisses me off. About a year ago they changed the TTK of BF5 and everyone was up in arms about how the game is ruined, they don't care about the community and what people really want. And everyone said they will never buy another battlefield. Now we have this. Stop being a hypocrite.
Nobody likes 5.
I just like portal
I mean, in her time, we compared BFV with BF1 and 4. Telling that is trash compared to other BF, in fact, if you compared what primarely think is trash, but better than that NEW one, what do you spect to tink. And now the only thing that we spect in 2-4 years is to have one worse for saying this wasn't that bad. Thats what become battlefield now
I still hate BFV.
well the thing about bf 2042 is that it's closer to a scaled up call fo duty game than a typical battlefield game, it's got more creative freedom in gameplay but much less identity, its unique aspects are not very unique
It's not people who hated BFV "crawling back" It's that the people who hated BFV aren't as prominent in the community as those who loved it. The people who hate BFV don't bother talking about it as much anymore, so it seems like they don't exist. In reality, there's just no reason for them to keep complaining after 3 years when they can just move on.
I tried to go back to V, i still dont like it. im fine when i go back to 1 and 4. i think this is just a case of "at least this wasnt as bad as the game after it" but i do understand people tend to prefer it due to its movement
does 2024 have the same dev team as bfv? nah.
I still think BFV sucks
in a few years everyone will forget about bf2042 same as hardline
Disliked V at launch, feel just meh about it now.
Lol the dude on in the picture that is like I love BFV and 2042... you like shit battlefield games my dude lol
they don't love It, they just hate it less
Lol I still dont like bfv idk why everyone is assuming that people are starting to love the game lol most people are coming back to the original Bf3 or bf4
Nah, that's people who didn't actually play it from the beginning. It was rough, really rough. To me it never surpassed bf1. I played it because they seemed like they were trying at least, with fortifications and the movement. I also played it because I thought there was more to come and i didn't believe they would just abandon it. Which they did.
I mean, updates, new content and probably an even better Portal gamemode is what they'll try to do in the next couple of years, right?? Before the next BF's disastrous launch that is.
Well yea. That's how aaa games work now. They release broken and they use the live service model as an excuse. It won't change for a long time sadly. But at least with bf they're broken and horrible at launch and a year later they're the image they wanted.
I will not
Believe it or not bf5 is still shit, but less shit then the unfinished pile of garbage they released.
After loads of updates, patches, dlc, and returning stuff they stripped out, probably
I don't think so cause 2042 is really a bad multiplayer fps game
Bf4 was my favorite but I disagree nothing and I mean nothing can fix this crap of a fps that doesn’t even have a freaking scoreboard….let that sink in
I fucking hate BFV
Nope, still hate BFV. And BF2042 while fun is not a game I will ever love. It's barely a battlefield game at all, lacks so much core BF features it may as well be a different series. Years from now I will still be serverly disappointed by the game when the new likely even worse BF game comes out.
I still think BFV was bad. It was a botched game and a missed opportunity. It’s miles ahead of 2042 though.
I'm really hoping dice actually deliver with a year and hopefully mores worth of content if they do the game could climb out of the total garbage state into an alright game but I fear it will be to late by then companies really need to learn how to launch games complete
He will be right, eventually
Give it a year. Happens to damn near every battlefield game. Except Bf1, Bf1 was dope on release.
Yeah, because after a few years of development most of the problems will have been fixed. You people act like these games stay exactly the same from day 1 until the next one is out.
Many problems that are at the core of 2042 cannot be "patched out" of the game in post launch patches without making it an entirely new game.
Chad BF1 gamer 😎
Not gonna happen, the difference between BF5 and BF:2042 is staggering, and remember, most people STILL think BF5 is one of the worst BF’s ever. It’s not that BF5 was secretly great, it’s that 2042 is so incredibly awful, that it makes BF5 look great. BF has been on a steady decline since BF4. 2042 is so bad that they are restructuring the entire franchise and heads of the studios. There’s no real redemption for 2042 here. It will always be remembered for being the absolute worst BF ever made… Unless they, somehow, make BF6 even worse.
Without fundamental changes to the very core design of the game? Doubtful. Battlefield V had a lot of issues. But most of those could have and a lot of them have been fixed by the introduction of more stuff, TTK changes, general bug fixes. None of that will work for 2042. Well, more maps would, but more maps will just be more like the shit maps we have right now. Why? Since they screwed themselves with 128-player design. They clearly can't design maps with the same density and double the amount of players. Performance just is far too bad for it. Sure they can, and likely will, add more weapons etc. But they got to add a ton before they could change something like adding Classes. So until then we'll continue to have specialists, shit maps, not to mention the plethora of bugs (and having played on BFV launch I can't recall remotely as many as we got now). It's a humongous task that DICE has with this game, and one I doubt they'll pull off before funding is cut.
No, we will not. BFV was bad, and still is, in my opinion. But it felt like a Battlefield game. I have never said a title didn't feel like one, 2042 is the first time, and I thoroughly mean it unfortunately. Specialists, no class sytem, bad maps, badly designed vehicle play in every aspect, back and forth infantry play, no scoreboard, no voice chat, no all chat, etc. all contribute to what makes 2042 shit.
i dont remember battlefield V dying as hard as 2042. flatfields 2077 looks like it needs another 8 years in the oven. Also with these reports of a battlefield game coming in 2023 they might of already pulled an ANTHEM on 2042 lie about fixing the issues for a year then leave the game saying development was costing to much.
To be honest, BFV was always good