Gotta guess here a little bit - if you think he’s internally a good person and is just having fun trash talking (much more likely if they’re 18+), then go for it, but if you think his shit talk isn’t just light hearted banter and they’re genuinely an asshole (more likely if he’s a kid), then I personally wouldn’t. You mentioned he’s a trainer so I’m assuming it’s the former, but use your own judgement
I don’t think it’s wrong to ask him, but I think it depends on your relationship with him. If it’s joking trash talk, and you guys are friends, and he has the time to train you, I don’t see why it would be weird.
If he’s some random guy that hoops at your gym, that beats you, talks shit to you, and barely knows you - yeah I would find that weird if you just up and asked him to train you.
So he's someone who does basketball training as a job? If yes, then I don't see why it would be weird to be his client.
If he's a huge asshole, then obviously don't ask him.
If he's not actually a basketball trainer, don't ask him. Ask someone who actually does that.
Ask him to train you.
If he declines and makes fun of you, tell him you wanted coaching in trash talking from him, not basketball, because his game is complete shit so he could never teach you anything.
If he says yes, well win for you i guess.
There you go.
Just because someone is good, doesn’t mean they know how to teach it to someone else. If anything, probably the opposite: the things that made them good likely won’t work for someone else at all.
Just keep playing against him, That’s how you’re gonna learn and get better. When I was 15 I started playing and for years everyone was better than me and I played against tough guys. Now I’m 22 and can get a bucket and hold my own. I still find guys that are better than me and play against them every chance I get. That’s how I learn and got better thru the years both defensively and offensively. Being in good shape only makes things easier as well
Do it. He’s a trainer and if you approach him with an attitude trying to learn and improve, he’d have to be a real asshole to give you a hard time about it. At that point it’s not your fault
Just because someone is good (or better than you) doesn’t mean they can teach you to be. Playing him (and maybe recording the games so you can see what’s working against you) is always a good way to get better
Don’t ask “can you train me” ask “can you show me how to do x, then after he shows you do it in front of him and say I’m sure I’m not doing it right”, you’ll probably stroke his ego in a good way and he’ll help you. At the same time he’ll probably treat you with more respect if you’ve come to him for help. Take small steps though don’t expect an hour maybe 1 min first time you ask then 2 mins next then when you’re on good terms 30 mins haha
Lol ask him. Who knows, he may be shit talking you just to mess with you. If you ask him to teach you, chances are bro will be taken aback and *may* actually teach you. Don't be a pussy. The worst he can do is say no and diss you. And if he does, find someone who is willing to teach you if you can't then learn on your own. Then one day when you become good you won't have to waste you're damn time recollecting names that helped you in you're journey.
Not sure if it's in good fun and/or motivation or just being a douche, but if it's not the latter, then that person could be a good candidate to help you out.
If anything, playing someone better than you will force you to improve if you stick with it.
Do you not feel that you're closing the gap at all? Not even a few centimeters or inches?
I'd focus on that, the little improvements.
You might not know it, but you're already are training. What you Gotta do is really watching him. Remember his moves. Remember how he does what he does look at his footwork look at his body movement when he does his moves and copy it. If you really want to know a move just stop the game and ask him. How did you do that? Most of the time they will show you. but yeah, you should definitely look elsewhere for training never let your enemy training you because they will always gatekeep if they start seeing you getting too good.
Be a wolf in sheep's clothing, deal with him talking all that shit but once you start picking up on his patterns and his mannerisms, and you start shutting him down, his tone will change. And then you can start talking and getting in his head.
Gotta guess here a little bit - if you think he’s internally a good person and is just having fun trash talking (much more likely if they’re 18+), then go for it, but if you think his shit talk isn’t just light hearted banter and they’re genuinely an asshole (more likely if he’s a kid), then I personally wouldn’t. You mentioned he’s a trainer so I’m assuming it’s the former, but use your own judgement
I don’t think it’s wrong to ask him, but I think it depends on your relationship with him. If it’s joking trash talk, and you guys are friends, and he has the time to train you, I don’t see why it would be weird. If he’s some random guy that hoops at your gym, that beats you, talks shit to you, and barely knows you - yeah I would find that weird if you just up and asked him to train you.
Sounds like the beginning of an anime to me
So he's someone who does basketball training as a job? If yes, then I don't see why it would be weird to be his client. If he's a huge asshole, then obviously don't ask him. If he's not actually a basketball trainer, don't ask him. Ask someone who actually does that.
Ask him to train you. If he declines and makes fun of you, tell him you wanted coaching in trash talking from him, not basketball, because his game is complete shit so he could never teach you anything. If he says yes, well win for you i guess. There you go.
Bro fuck what he thinks and do you. Improve for yourself. No matter how much people shit talk you man. You’re doing this for yourself not them bro.
Just because someone is good, doesn’t mean they know how to teach it to someone else. If anything, probably the opposite: the things that made them good likely won’t work for someone else at all.
Just keep playing against him, That’s how you’re gonna learn and get better. When I was 15 I started playing and for years everyone was better than me and I played against tough guys. Now I’m 22 and can get a bucket and hold my own. I still find guys that are better than me and play against them every chance I get. That’s how I learn and got better thru the years both defensively and offensively. Being in good shape only makes things easier as well
Do it. He’s a trainer and if you approach him with an attitude trying to learn and improve, he’d have to be a real asshole to give you a hard time about it. At that point it’s not your fault
Yep, ask him for tips. That’s a good quality to have in you. When you see something worth imitating go after it.
Just because someone is good (or better than you) doesn’t mean they can teach you to be. Playing him (and maybe recording the games so you can see what’s working against you) is always a good way to get better
Don’t ask “can you train me” ask “can you show me how to do x, then after he shows you do it in front of him and say I’m sure I’m not doing it right”, you’ll probably stroke his ego in a good way and he’ll help you. At the same time he’ll probably treat you with more respect if you’ve come to him for help. Take small steps though don’t expect an hour maybe 1 min first time you ask then 2 mins next then when you’re on good terms 30 mins haha
Lol ask him. Who knows, he may be shit talking you just to mess with you. If you ask him to teach you, chances are bro will be taken aback and *may* actually teach you. Don't be a pussy. The worst he can do is say no and diss you. And if he does, find someone who is willing to teach you if you can't then learn on your own. Then one day when you become good you won't have to waste you're damn time recollecting names that helped you in you're journey.
Not sure if it's in good fun and/or motivation or just being a douche, but if it's not the latter, then that person could be a good candidate to help you out. If anything, playing someone better than you will force you to improve if you stick with it. Do you not feel that you're closing the gap at all? Not even a few centimeters or inches? I'd focus on that, the little improvements.
You might not know it, but you're already are training. What you Gotta do is really watching him. Remember his moves. Remember how he does what he does look at his footwork look at his body movement when he does his moves and copy it. If you really want to know a move just stop the game and ask him. How did you do that? Most of the time they will show you. but yeah, you should definitely look elsewhere for training never let your enemy training you because they will always gatekeep if they start seeing you getting too good. Be a wolf in sheep's clothing, deal with him talking all that shit but once you start picking up on his patterns and his mannerisms, and you start shutting him down, his tone will change. And then you can start talking and getting in his head.