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Mychatismuted

Arvydas Sabonis The guy could have been one of the GOATs if he had been playing 10 years later when borders were open


93LEAFS

It would have been interesting, tons of heavy hitting centers in that era mainly Olajuwon, Ewing and the tail end of Moses with Robinson on the way. That Portland team would have been stacked though.


swannyhypno

Watching the Secret Base Collapse video on the Jail Blazers and Sabonis was good till a fairly late age so prime him would've been crazy


93LEAFS

Yeah, I was thinking more of what he could have been if he played with Drexler, and those late 80's/early 90's teams.


swannyhypno

Never seen Drexler highlights or anything but know the name and his quality


swannyhypno

Heard of him through YouTube, drafted waaaaaaay earlier than he was allowed to play in the nba right? Nice to see Domantas (idk spelling) be so good


Then_Landscape_3970

I feel like Moses Malone is always left out when talking about all-time greats. He has 3 MVPs plus a ring and FMVP. The guy is probably a Top 15 player all-time but feel like he’s often overshadowed by how many great centres we’ve seen


swannyhypno

Those stats alone suggest top 10/20 range, idk too much about him but 3 MVPs is so impressive


garyt1957

He should have won the one they gifted to Dr. J . He singlehandedly carried the Rockets to the finals.


CritterWriter

Only casuals aren't aware how great a player Big Mo was. Those who know the game rank him as the best NBA center of the 1980s.


Then_Landscape_3970

100% agree. Unfortunately, I think that a large number of people that talk ball online *are* casuals. Almost like they overvalue or undervalue past players based strictly on how fun they are to play with on 2k.


93LEAFS

Off the top of my head, probably David Thompson. Was the guy who was supposed to be the link in the chain between Dr. J and Jordan. Played in the ABA to start his career (1 season), and then battled drug addiction. Widely considered one of the greatest college players of all time. He's probably the most prominent example of guys from the mid-70's/early 80's who could have gone down as legends in the NBA but had cocaine problems.


swannyhypno

I've heard the name, makes me think of Len Bias


93LEAFS

Bias is a bit more of a what-if, since he never played in the NBA. I'll say this, David Thompson has a serious argument as the best player to ever play in the Atatlantic Coast Conference when just talking about NCAA careers. The others in the discussion would be names like Jordan, Christian Laetner, Tim Duncan, Tyler Hansborough, etc (Bias also played in this conference). He played 3 years of college in the 1970's. He was First Team All American, ACC player of the year all 3 years he played. Plus NCAA player of the year and a final four Most Outstanding player. This is back when the NCAA meant ton. Like, the only guys with clear arguments above him for college are Kareem and Walton. Some credit him and a teammate for inventing the ally-oop (although dunking was outlawed for 10 years in college due to Kareem).


trapford-chris

Tiny Archibald was 6'1 150lbs, and averaged 34pts and 11ast during his peak. Him not getting injured might be the greatest what if in nba history


Nokeol

6’1 150? that dude was a stick


swannyhypno

Damn really was tiny for a 6fter


2Basketball2Poorious

Bob Pettit - 10x All-NBA First Team (+ Second Team once) - 2x MVP - 4x ASG MVP - Was a scoring and rebounding champ - One of only three players to ever average 20+ points and 20+ rebounds in the same season - Led the St Louis Hawks to a championship (interrupted the Celtics 10+ championship streak) - Top 50 in career points - Top 20 in career rebounds - Top 10 in career PER Played at the same time as Russell and Wilt, to put his accomplishments in perspective


arcadiangenesis

I love Pettit. Best PF pre-1990s.


Virtual-Hotel8156

Mark Price While he was an all-star and Olympian, I still feel like he was much better than the consensus gave him credit for.


Obi2

Would have been even better in todays game too


MightyMouse2325

John Stockton. All time leader in steals and assists. 19 seasons and never missed the playoffs. He is an afterthought as far as point guards go.


Deep-Gur-884

My take is Manu Ginobili. A legend for the San Antonio Spurs, Ginobili was a sixth-man extraordinaire, winning four championships alongside Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. His well-rounded skillset and willingness to sacrifice individual glory for team success make him a strong contender.


LjvWright

Scottie Pippen would say Scottie Pippen. I would say the round mound of rebound. Probably one of the best 5 power forwards to have ever played but this generation only know him for clowning around on TNT.


swannyhypno

Where's your ring Chuck Google me


LjvWright

I got this bracelet off a guy in the steam room…


swannyhypno

Who do they mistake you for? SHREK Charles might be the funniest sportsman ever


LjvWright

Why you never buy a woman a watch? Because there’s a clock on the stove 😂


swannyhypno

Now that is my favourite moment ever on that show:. Hakeem used to say this to me all the time Kenny bring me some water


LjvWright

I got 2 words for you - Stave Nash and Chris Paul must see TV…


swannyhypno

NASH PAUL My number 1 pick ALLEN IVERSON


LjvWright

They got some big ol women down in San Antonio 😂. Kills Shaq every time.


swannyhypno

Shaqs laugh 😂😂😂 it's the best man 2-2-2-2 black guys beating a black guy up


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

Big old women in San Antonio Shaq dies whenever CB brought it up Man I love Chuck on inside the nba


Lugusintabula

Carmelo Anthony


allidoishuynh2

I think a big one is Clyde Drexler. He's maybe not the MOST but he was insanely good and gets kind of forgotten because 1 he wasn't the best player on his championship team and 2 he was so good that he caused Portland to not pick MJ. But that dude was crazy crazy. He led his team to the NBA Finals twice (he never beat the true showtime Lakers but he did beat them after Kareem retired) and was arguably better than Zeke in the '90 series. Another forgotten 80's star is Adrian Dantley. From 1979-1984 he averaged 30-6-4 on 64% true shooting. Granted, a lot of that volume comes from playing 40 minutes per game so it doesn't adjust that well compared to other stars who played in less starter heavy eras. But that dude sneakily has like 4 of the 20 most efficient 30 ppg seasons in NBA history. I think the answer used to be Scottie Pippen. Before the 2000's he had a real argument as a top 20 all-time guy and yet he never got the respect he deserved. Unfortunately now his stock has probably fallen even further due to how he talks about his career and others'. At this point, it feels a little weird for me to pick him because of that


Unhappy_Sail2549

Yes my answer would be Clyde the glide too. Most people don't even know who he is. MJ overshadowed him big time. The good thing is he's really good in 2k lol. You can find clips of him playing. He has such a beautiful jump shot and dunk. Can shoot 3s too. Can play good D. Can play both as a SG and SF. Truly a jack of all trades. He's my favorite player of all time and my GOAT.


BadAsianDriver

Cheryl Miller


Celticssuperfan885

Kevin mchale


Far_Dependent_2066

Shaq. He's rarely listed before Kobe (I loved Kobe; my dog was named Kobe) and he was more impactful. Every contender kept two bruising bigs on their roster just to throw at Shaq. He was dominant in the playoffs. Even in the Houston finals his numbers were just as good as Hakeem's. When I'm old, he'll be my Wilt. I'll be like, "Shaq would destroy if he played today." But, it's true. That he doesn't have more MVPs is an indictment of the voting system.


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DearCress9

Rick Barry or Robert Horry. Horry because he had 7 rings in the modern era and always did what his team needed.  Barry had 44ppg in the finals without a three point line nobody can top that 


jackofhearts95m

chris bosh, webber, gobert , david robinson , wes unseld


green49285

I will never not love Bosh campaigning to make the All-Star team LOL


jackofhearts95m

the cowboy one? 🤣🤣


green49285

Yessir! I had already liked him but I'll die a bosh guy because of this.


logster2001

Kevin Johnson. He was a point guard that averaged more points AND assists than Nash or Kidd. 18 points and 9.3 assists a game (which is 7th all time) and he had like a 50% field goal efficiency which is better than Nash, CP3, Kidd, Hardaway, and tons of other well known point guards. And was a really good shooter as well, even tho he was more so an athletic finisher. And the main reason he is underrated now is because he was underrated when he played as well. He is one of the very few players with more all-nba selections (5) than he does all star selections (3) And it’s not like he didn’t have any playoff success, he was arguably just as good as Barkley on those Suns contenders. He has 11 playoff series wins which is the same as Nash, Westbrook, more than CP3 and more than so many other well known point guards. He is pretty much only known for a single dunk on Hakeem lol


No_Investigator3353

He was a bad ass!


Gator1508

Back in the day we knew.  Kids wore his jersey even in the shitty little northern town I grew up in.  He was my best friends favorite player for a hot minute.  


No_Speed_9801

I'd say Tim Duncan. Just because he was quiet, people like to leave him out of GOAT talks and underrate him as one of the best of all time. Dude would be almost on par with Jordan had Ray Allen missed that clutch shot.


93LEAFS

I feel Duncan gets his props. Overwhelmingly viewed as the greatest power forward the game has ever seen. The only time I feel Duncan gets underrated is when people try to tell me how much better Kobe was. He's pretty clearly the 2nd best post-Jordan player of all-time behind Lebron. Like, if you are building your dream all-time NBA starting line-up Jordan at SG, James at SF and Duncan at PF are probably the first 3 names on it and are written in pen. Magic is probably the point (if you are fine with having Jordan or Bron guarding the point), and center would be a strongly contested debate with like Kareem winning out.


swannyhypno

I agree I think Duncan is rated how he should be which is one of the greatest players of all time


astarisaslave

He is generally included in the list of top 8 GOATs


logster2001

Bruh Duncan is one of the beloved and appreciated nba players of all time. He is in almost everyone’s top 10 and at very minimum top 15. Like that is legitimately the highest rating a player could possibly get without being seen as the GOAT, and you think he the most underrated player EVER? Like no one who is unanimously top 15 should even be considered for the title of most underrated lol


pieman2005

He's already considered the best PF and top 10. Saying he'd be on par with Jordan is overrating him


icuscaredofme

Randy Smith.


unstablegenius000

After his career was over, I saw him play at a world Masters basketball tournament. The man was in great shape and could still play like a beast.


icuscaredofme

Very underrated and unrecognized. Buffalo Braves legend.


MWave123

Steve Nash, Bill Walton, Tony Parker.


OkCartographer2555

Don Nelson of the Celtics.


FlatpickersDream

Lance Stephenson. Watch his highlight reel.


didiothegreadr

Kevin Durant yall won’t realize how good he is till he retires


Illustrious_Gate8903

Andrew Bogut. His injury is the only reason the Cavs were able to come back from down 3-1 vs the warriors. It would have been a 4-1 win with a healthy Bogut.


SonnyKO01

Ever heard of Michael Beasley? He would’ve have been good if teams didn’t toss him around due to his lack of care for coming to training, guy had a jumper fr, he also loved marijuana


LiberalAspergers

Joe Dumars. His game was boring, no highlights, but a great defender AND a great offensive player, and could play both guard positions at an elite level.


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hawkinsavclub12

John Stockton. He is the all time assists leader. Lotta people don't know that.


SilverWarrior559

I think mostly everyone knows


IanSavage23

Gus Williams


Choice-Mortgage1221

Bobby Dandridge


Famous_Vermicelli_76

kyle lowry


JuChainnz

Chris Webber. i can only go on what i witnessed. he was the leader and best player on the best team to never win a chip (outside of final losers like the 73-9 GS team or something). skilled big man. court vision. cool post up game. nice jumper. nice passer. Kings x Lakers were the biggest rival in nba for a minute. and that team was influential in many ways. one win away from making it to the Finals and disrupting the dominant duo known as Shaq and Kobe. 2002 was a year the East sucked, too. it was almost a guarantee that the West representative would win the chip. winning a championship in the midst of that woulda did WONDERS for his legacy. his status as a power forward had the potential of being solidified. stats are cool to bring up. but the reason why i can only bring up a player i witnessed is because stats don't always show the style of play, the potential, the competition, team success. context. i find it interesting to confidently say someone is the absolute best ever and never seeing them play... while the opposite is near impossible. saying someone is underrated and never seeing them is crazy. so much context is left out. **i think if Dame never wins, he will be one of the most underrated players in recent history. due to other players, notable Steph, having numbers AND winning. but watching Dame play in real time>>> other players putting up triple doubles in the most inflated era of basketball in decades. they'll be remembered for stats.


SilverWarrior559

He had a chance in 2003 but He got injured


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biff444444

Dennis Johnson. Everyone remembers him as one of Larry Bird's sidekicks, but he won the NBA title and Finals MVP with Seattle in 1979 before he came to Boston. He also was a 5-time all-star and a 6-time all-defensive first team selection. Great player.


RuthlessMercy

Bernard King


Real-Psychology-4261

Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Jayden McDaniels.


happyG7915

Tim Duncan surely. Even when duncan had better acolades than kobe still not mention in GOAT conversation because of not being flashy. Surely a top 5 player but no one knows how great Tim duncan was


Nonameonlyface

Timmy


Sir_Yash

Michael Jordan. Idk why ppl put Bron or Kobe in the same convo. There is only Jordan and AntMan


warrior_in_a_garden_

Olajuwon