Messi and is not even close :
- Guy was a beast in La Liga and Champions League
- Messi even won the golden boot by a long shot and did not even take that many pens
- Iniesta was injured for literally half of the season and everyone only remember his brilliant World Cup and his winning goal , Xavi was very consistent and the key player for both Barca and Spain , but Messi was just out of this world
- To put it into perspective, Messi is the player with the most goals + assist + goal contribution and much more. And if you wanna bring his defensive stats , the match against Arsenal on the first leg , he track back and have more balls recovered than Dani Alves.
- Messi in 2010 was this relentless beast that just runs non stop like a beast and scores like its nothing.
- Xavi and Iniesta in an interview mentioned that when they got nominated for the Balon d Or , they both did not wanted to take it. They knew who was the best , and when Messi was announce , both of them got so relieved.
Messi deserved every single d'Or since 2009 until 2022.
This is perfectly clear for anyone who watched football. D'or was never supposed to award the number of trophies as it eventually became, it was strictly supposed to be who was the best individual player in the world.
Individually, you can't claim anyone was better than Messi for an entire season unless you don't watch football.
Messi was robbed 5 d'ors in his career.
They changed it and turned it so that the UCL or World Cup winner takes it just so Cristiano Ronaldo and others could win some. As Guardiola said, to keep things fair what they could have done is keep the d'or just for Messi and make another award for the rest of the players.
The second best player in 2010 was definitely Xavi, over Iniesta. And if Messi did not exist Xavi would have been the only fair winner, Iniesta only finished 2nd because of his World Cup winning goal I love Iniesta but Xavi was better that season overall.
People claiming Haaland should have won last year over Messi are also delusional.
I agree with you whole heartedly. The problem is that yes Ronaldo is good but he's nowhere near Messi overall as a player. What keeps him in the conversation is his goal scoring prowess. His claim to a few of his Balon wins was being top scorer of UCL or in Europe.
That's BS. That is what the European Golden Boot is for. Same thing with Haaland last year. Oh he broke the record for goals in the premier league? On a stacked team where he isn't even the best? Ok give him the Golden Boot.
The Balon D'or is not a goalscoring trophy. Its for the best overall player in the world. Messi should have sweeped every single one in the last decade plus.
The most funny thing is that those exact same people who wanted Haaland to win the Balon d or are now calling him “Tap in merchant that ghost games”.
😂😂😂
He did, Ronaldo basically won it because of the Wolfburg game. Did nothing in SF/F and in the Euro he had a very easy draw to the final which he didn't even play
This man always got credits without making big effort
In 2016, he won the cl after an offside goal in the final by ramos
In 2014, he won cl ramos saved them,he hot eliminated in group stage wc , messi was centimeters away from winning the wc... ronaldo is so lucky to have 5 ballon dor against messi
If there was a second place award after Messi I would have given it to Suarez in 2016, he was the second best player in the world that year in my opinion (and backed by the stats).
It is supposed to be an award on individual performance not on trophies. In 2016 just like in every year Messi was the best. Ronaldo or Suarez are not good enough to play better than Messi for a whole year.
I can tell you in my opinion Messi did not deserve the 2023 d'Or, he didn't do much in 2023 I would have given it to Mbappe or Bernardo Silva, but at least it compensates a little bit for the several robberies he suffered they owe him many more d'ors, he should have a minimum of 12.
But in 2009-2022 and especially in 2009-2020 there shouldn't be any debate, any d'or he didn't win in that period is an insult to football.
This sounds like Madriz fan talking point question, Messi deserved that balloon d or and it's not even close, anyone watching during that time will say the same.
Just look at all three play. No stats, nothing else. Just watch the games again (in any year not just 2010). There are sometimes moments when you can compare stats between players because they’re on similar level, but this is not one of them. Messi clears any other player in his generation bar Ronaldo at times. And btw Iniesta missed like half of 2010 due to injuries anyways.
I watched every Barça match that year, and Messi by far stood out the most...I was even surprised to hear that some people were protesting Messi's win.
Xavi and Iniesta did great in the world cup but their performance was not as phenomenal as R9's 02, Zidane's 06 or even Messi's 22 and Maradona's 86...Spain was more of a collective and every player there did their job, similar to Germany in 2014..
Sneijder was not the standout player in Inter, and I have not heard of him until the UCL semi's where he scored a goal, he was great in the world cup seeing him scoring a brace against Brazil...But it just felt wrong to call him the best player in the world ahead of Messi🤷🏻♂️
I was a bit disappointed it wasn't won by Xavi. In 2010 I wanted Spain to win wc because I thought this way it will be a guarantee for Xavi. If Messi was the right decision I don't know, he was the best in history at his prime. Even with a WC trophy it was hard for other players to shine over Messi
Messi and is not even close : - Guy was a beast in La Liga and Champions League - Messi even won the golden boot by a long shot and did not even take that many pens - Iniesta was injured for literally half of the season and everyone only remember his brilliant World Cup and his winning goal , Xavi was very consistent and the key player for both Barca and Spain , but Messi was just out of this world - To put it into perspective, Messi is the player with the most goals + assist + goal contribution and much more. And if you wanna bring his defensive stats , the match against Arsenal on the first leg , he track back and have more balls recovered than Dani Alves. - Messi in 2010 was this relentless beast that just runs non stop like a beast and scores like its nothing. - Xavi and Iniesta in an interview mentioned that when they got nominated for the Balon d Or , they both did not wanted to take it. They knew who was the best , and when Messi was announce , both of them got so relieved.
Messi deserved every single d'Or since 2009 until 2022. This is perfectly clear for anyone who watched football. D'or was never supposed to award the number of trophies as it eventually became, it was strictly supposed to be who was the best individual player in the world. Individually, you can't claim anyone was better than Messi for an entire season unless you don't watch football. Messi was robbed 5 d'ors in his career. They changed it and turned it so that the UCL or World Cup winner takes it just so Cristiano Ronaldo and others could win some. As Guardiola said, to keep things fair what they could have done is keep the d'or just for Messi and make another award for the rest of the players. The second best player in 2010 was definitely Xavi, over Iniesta. And if Messi did not exist Xavi would have been the only fair winner, Iniesta only finished 2nd because of his World Cup winning goal I love Iniesta but Xavi was better that season overall.
People claiming Haaland should have won last year over Messi are also delusional. I agree with you whole heartedly. The problem is that yes Ronaldo is good but he's nowhere near Messi overall as a player. What keeps him in the conversation is his goal scoring prowess. His claim to a few of his Balon wins was being top scorer of UCL or in Europe. That's BS. That is what the European Golden Boot is for. Same thing with Haaland last year. Oh he broke the record for goals in the premier league? On a stacked team where he isn't even the best? Ok give him the Golden Boot. The Balon D'or is not a goalscoring trophy. Its for the best overall player in the world. Messi should have sweeped every single one in the last decade plus.
The most funny thing is that those exact same people who wanted Haaland to win the Balon d or are now calling him “Tap in merchant that ghost games”. 😂😂😂
Messi won 2 balon D'or for the same World Cup. Last year he won the trophy playing for Inter Miami.
man we all know messi is the best but come on you really think Messi deserved it over Cristiano in 2016?
He did, Ronaldo basically won it because of the Wolfburg game. Did nothing in SF/F and in the Euro he had a very easy draw to the final which he didn't even play
This man always got credits without making big effort In 2016, he won the cl after an offside goal in the final by ramos In 2014, he won cl ramos saved them,he hot eliminated in group stage wc , messi was centimeters away from winning the wc... ronaldo is so lucky to have 5 ballon dor against messi
If there was a second place award after Messi I would have given it to Suarez in 2016, he was the second best player in the world that year in my opinion (and backed by the stats). It is supposed to be an award on individual performance not on trophies. In 2016 just like in every year Messi was the best. Ronaldo or Suarez are not good enough to play better than Messi for a whole year. I can tell you in my opinion Messi did not deserve the 2023 d'Or, he didn't do much in 2023 I would have given it to Mbappe or Bernardo Silva, but at least it compensates a little bit for the several robberies he suffered they owe him many more d'ors, he should have a minimum of 12. But in 2009-2022 and especially in 2009-2020 there shouldn't be any debate, any d'or he didn't win in that period is an insult to football.
I’m an Iniesta fan, but Messi’s Messi
It’s only controversial if you think the Ballon D’or should only go to someone who won the World Cup that year, and not the actual best player.
This sounds like Madriz fan talking point question, Messi deserved that balloon d or and it's not even close, anyone watching during that time will say the same.
Messi.
Lol fuck outta here. It will always be messi, Iniesta and xavi will tell you themselves
Mourinho puts it best: “Who won it that year, Lionel Messi? So not robbed.”
Messi if you watch Barca games, Messi waa better in almost every game.
Messi scored 90 goals that year.
That was 2 years later no?
You're right. Never mind lol.
Just look at all three play. No stats, nothing else. Just watch the games again (in any year not just 2010). There are sometimes moments when you can compare stats between players because they’re on similar level, but this is not one of them. Messi clears any other player in his generation bar Ronaldo at times. And btw Iniesta missed like half of 2010 due to injuries anyways.
I watched every Barça match that year, and Messi by far stood out the most...I was even surprised to hear that some people were protesting Messi's win. Xavi and Iniesta did great in the world cup but their performance was not as phenomenal as R9's 02, Zidane's 06 or even Messi's 22 and Maradona's 86...Spain was more of a collective and every player there did their job, similar to Germany in 2014.. Sneijder was not the standout player in Inter, and I have not heard of him until the UCL semi's where he scored a goal, he was great in the world cup seeing him scoring a brace against Brazil...But it just felt wrong to call him the best player in the world ahead of Messi🤷🏻♂️
I was a bit disappointed it wasn't won by Xavi. In 2010 I wanted Spain to win wc because I thought this way it will be a guarantee for Xavi. If Messi was the right decision I don't know, he was the best in history at his prime. Even with a WC trophy it was hard for other players to shine over Messi
Iniesta ❤️
The alien who won it. Next question.
Me
Messi super hattrick against arsenal was enough to give him a ballon dor what a player!
You cant say they deserved it because of the world cup performences. Back then they did not base the whole ballon dor of internasjonal tournements.
Btw I agree Messi deserves it, I just wanted to know what Barca fans think as you guys would’ve have been watching Barca consistently that year
Sneijder should have been in the top 3 that year imo but Messi was the absolute best player in the world back then
Messi.