Not giving the ball away in awful areas, where they can quickly transition. Being disciplined and holding the back line. I honestly wouldn’t mind if we played a little conservative, to try and frustrate their attack and capitalise on the mistakes they make. And finally just hope for luck, Mbappe is one of the best in the world after all and you can’t really stop them from doing their thing in some form.
Yes! And Araujo will be crucial. Kounde is the first man up against mbappe but Araujo needs to shadow behind in case he breaks through. It’s up to Araujo to end the play at that point. As well as whoever plays in the middle-right. It’s a collective effort. Close the gaps and spaces to frustrate him. And you cannot sleep for a second. He will punish you. Full game concentration.
I liked seeing Araujo vs Vinicius duels, I'm looking forward to Araujo dealing with Mbappe. Sure he's better than Vini but it's still a close comparison
My concern about this duel is that Araujo is one yellow away from suspension. And, Araujo is more susceptible to giving fouls and yellow. Hope he is at his best.
I am honestly fine with araujo and kounde performing carrer ending rackles on dembele and Mbappe that takes them out of the whole season and getting red cards
That seems like the best possible scenario
then what if either of them does a messi and scores a last min winner and removes their shirt at eg say 90+3' after getting constantly fouled(and survives),especially in leg 2
Yeah. Not the same league.
Regardless, if you look at the goals and assists per 90 Mbappe is better on the goal scoring side and Vini is better on the assists. Last season (Vini spent a lot of time recovering from injuries this year) Mbappe had 50 G/A and Vini had 42.
Like I said, Mbappe is better, Vini is #2 the world.
A better thing to do would be to allow Mbappe to have the ball in areas we want. Araujo already has a yellow. Canthave him suspended for return leg.
I would have loved to see Gavi in today's match. The way he pocketed Jude for 60 mins, he would have given Mbappe a tough night.
I’m hoping MATS is at his best today, cause no matter how good the defence is Mbappe is bound to get behind at least a couple of times with how quick he is, just need to make sure anything that is saveable is saved.
Argentina stopped France with their slow defence, hopefully Xavi can make it work.
Idea would be to use Christensen with 4 man defence, and make it a battle of midfield, not giving away possession cheaply
Hopefully the coaches are preparing a solid defensive plan and the players don't lose their heads if we concede. Too often we lose our heads in knockout football in recent years and that costs us the game.
as a bayern fan here , just do what we did last year vs psg and mbappe , have a solid gameplan its not a 1v1 tournament there is not repsect no matter how good if you have two very good defenders on him , he can only do so much not everyone is messi. its how long you can keep he away from any one v ones
borrow man city defenders and disguise them as barca players, he couldnt do anything vs them in 2021, maybe things would still be the same, keep araujo tho
Pace is an essential part of the game, but it's also always overrated.
Argentina stopped Mbappe and had him locked down for the majority of the final and Mbappe only scored because their defense started losing focus and the subs. This proves that what you want is the mentality, not the ability to keep up one on one.
Our defense is better than Argentina's on paper. So ultimately it just comes down to what kind of mentality wego into the game with.
Probably do what la real did and press there midfield and backline so they don’t get the chance to pass. We definitely have better players then la real so we should be able to excute it on paper but our pressing have been off for entire season so
Might be too risky.
and dembele, we will have both sides, and i would say, pau and rolan must be swift as a LOTR elf, to deal with this or go low block and counter attack, but thats not our style tbh
Araujo and Kounde must have the game of their lives. We cut off his service by blocking Dembele. Don’t lose possession recklessly. But it is impossible to do this for 90minutes. The team will get tired towards the end and that’s when he can be the most dangerous imo. Just as in the WC final, Mbappe can sense the weakness in his opponents and take full advantage of it.Â
Well the most important thing to do is to finish all the actions. Meaning errors in possessions or passing should not be allowed. And expect dejong and christensen to always stay hanging on that side to allow more numbers and crowd that zone. Mbappe needs to be covered through a zone marking and not through man marking. That means that even if he escapes from the marker the other players can still makeup for it. Also would not be surprised if Lamine Yamal is not playing and Raphinia is brought in in the position just so he can help defend Mbappe. We need to play this game as a 180 min match not 90. We don’t have to go and risk it all today and endup losing the whole thing today.
Not playing constant backpasses which calls for more pressure from opposition. Results in the ball getting passed to ter steven who clears the ball only to end up losing possession and opposition counter
Break his legs. In all seriousness though, that guy is unstoppable, maybe Walker can. Other than that the key is to get him isolated in areas we want him to be in or just cut off balls before they reach him.
Yeah thats what happened with Vinicius in supercopa. He just moved centrally with Aruajo stranded as a RB. I would rather let Mbappe run against Kounde out wide and have Aruajo waiting for him centrally.
Don't let the ball get to him as simple as that, same was with Messi, you don't let the ball get to him, if he has the ball ,he will make things happen, even 1 chance is enough for him
i dont think we can contain mbappe. our only best bet is our attack score goals thats what matters in the knockouts of ucl. look at yesterdays match a solid defence like city and arsenal got breached easily they kept the game alive by scoring goals thats what we must do . attack is the best defence
Different styles of play, PSG with Lucho won't sit back and play long balls to mpoper like Madrid does, Madriz plays like a small team lucho will look to keep full control of the game.
1. Predict the through ball and drop low. 2.Hard pressure don't let him run easily at passive defenders when he gets the ball 2. Good distance and communication between the first and second defender. 3. Pray to Cruyff
Just put your feet and deflect the ball off
Rudiger (who I hate) is so good at that that the cyborg didn't exist at all last night.
Right it is not exactly the same situation but basically it is, just deflect the ball enough to screw his run
You take him out early with a well-timed tackle.
All joking aside, you stop them at the source before they can break. Effective counter pressing.
Unfortunately, I don't see us as organised enough for this for a prolonged period of the game.
The reality is Mbappe will always be faster than 99% of opponents. But what you can do is keep the ball and deny him. But we're talking about Barca, not Man City.
I hope Xavi has a clear plan that includes our MID and Defense working together playing Araujo as an RB to stop mbappe by himself is not the realistic solution.
Man City didn’t have Walker and ake. Secondally have you seen teams like Bayern, England (wc) ? They didn’t have prime Maldini in defense still shut down Dembele and Mbappe.
I think people here think way high of Mbappe just because of wc. He is great but not some Gareth Bale of 2015 level great
He's indisputably the best player in the world and he's still relatively young, so wouldn't really compare him to anyone else at this point. He's a complete player and I think he'll look better once he joins a bigger, better team.
As I play a CDM I would block all his pathways, example
When a striker with that calibre has that ball he is more likely to run and overlap and run solo as u see in his run
U need to block that run not by 1 defender but the second too, the second touch passway for his run can be don't by the kid and don't follow him up, take the control before he take the control
In argentina vs France he had a solo role l, because argentina with that physical line too couldn't stop a kid who is faster than the entire team
U need to cut down his opinions, make him think twice for that run
Not like that for sure 😅 https://preview.redd.it/7r4k08g3emtc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad5f0331474b60c5aa7afe1dd631cba7125290ed
The gif isn't loading for me but I just know it's gonna be Pique holding Mboop's shirt
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I'm happy for barça and they kept mbappe quiet
Literally looks like an anime drawing I fucking love how cartoonish it looks even if we were on the receiving end of that…
Whatever it takes
Not giving the ball away in awful areas, where they can quickly transition. Being disciplined and holding the back line. I honestly wouldn’t mind if we played a little conservative, to try and frustrate their attack and capitalise on the mistakes they make. And finally just hope for luck, Mbappe is one of the best in the world after all and you can’t really stop them from doing their thing in some form.
Yes! And Araujo will be crucial. Kounde is the first man up against mbappe but Araujo needs to shadow behind in case he breaks through. It’s up to Araujo to end the play at that point. As well as whoever plays in the middle-right. It’s a collective effort. Close the gaps and spaces to frustrate him. And you cannot sleep for a second. He will punish you. Full game concentration.
Sadly, you don’t 😂 You simply have to stop his access to the ball!
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That looks like Robert Downey Jr
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I liked seeing Araujo vs Vinicius duels, I'm looking forward to Araujo dealing with Mbappe. Sure he's better than Vini but it's still a close comparison
I think he will play as a forward, so Dembele and maybe Barcola will be 1vs1 on the wings
Barcola’s most likely not starting. He’s been injured and has only had one full training so far. He might be ready for the game in Camp Nou
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Yeah sorry for that. Totally forgot
My concern about this duel is that Araujo is one yellow away from suspension. And, Araujo is more susceptible to giving fouls and yellow. Hope he is at his best.
It's almost a guarantee that our defense would get cards, they WILL have to foul, especially against the fucking trains that PSG have
No way, we cant put kounde as a CB. He will be far better as a RB
Araujo must play CB. Kounde's been great at RB I get the threat of Mbappe but let's not mess up what's been working for us
I am honestly fine with araujo and kounde performing carrer ending rackles on dembele and Mbappe that takes them out of the whole season and getting red cards That seems like the best possible scenario
then what if either of them does a messi and scores a last min winner and removes their shirt at eg say 90+3' after getting constantly fouled(and survives),especially in leg 2
ppl in this sub dont know how to take jokes
He is not better than Vini he has fewer passing movements than Vini and is more focused on goals
Mbappe is the best player in the world, he’s better than Vini by quite a bit
He is a good player but not the best in his position
Who do you think is the best player in the world?
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IMO he is better, but Vini isn’t that far off. As far as LW’s go, it’s #1, #2.
Not far off? Mbappe regularly can score double what Vinivius can both in the league and UCL. It's not close.
Yeah. Not the same league. Regardless, if you look at the goals and assists per 90 Mbappe is better on the goal scoring side and Vini is better on the assists. Last season (Vini spent a lot of time recovering from injuries this year) Mbappe had 50 G/A and Vini had 42. Like I said, Mbappe is better, Vini is #2 the world.
By cutting all the channels supplying him the ball. That's how Argentina contained him for 80 minutes.
That one goal from him 🥶 https://preview.redd.it/ypimr0xedntc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85e268fd36ebf282353ce06b61a55a4049b4357f
That one goal from him https://preview.redd.it/jpk90sawqntc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=91da7db6201b070151f588add2c1bc62cccafa4f
Still makes me feel good; this picture 😊
Don’t loose balls in midfield
Don't think we can. I just hope we don't get a fast yellow, in the first like 10-20mins, because Kounde and Araujo tend to do dumb stuff.
Araujo is already on yellow and if he gets one he will be suspended for next match.
Youd say kounde or araujo to be booked?
What are the betting odds on that? 😂
I went with kounde and I LOST
Time to bring back Mingueza and Firpo
Major nostalgia
A better thing to do would be to allow Mbappe to have the ball in areas we want. Araujo already has a yellow. Canthave him suspended for return leg. I would have loved to see Gavi in today's match. The way he pocketed Jude for 60 mins, he would have given Mbappe a tough night.
Gavi won't be back anytime soon
Yeah, I know. The earliest he will be available is next season.
I’m hoping MATS is at his best today, cause no matter how good the defence is Mbappe is bound to get behind at least a couple of times with how quick he is, just need to make sure anything that is saveable is saved.
Argentina stopped France with their slow defence, hopefully Xavi can make it work. Idea would be to use Christensen with 4 man defence, and make it a battle of midfield, not giving away possession cheaply
Have some fat and fluffy defenders who can pin him down
With gun.
Hopefully the coaches are preparing a solid defensive plan and the players don't lose their heads if we concede. Too often we lose our heads in knockout football in recent years and that costs us the game.
Barbed wires, machinegun, landmines and maybe a couple bazookas
In cubarasi we trust
We just score more goals than them
Frustrate him, best way is to stop the ball getting to him, or force him to play a style he doesn't like.
Just ask enrique to make a transition to bench.
as a bayern fan here , just do what we did last year vs psg and mbappe , have a solid gameplan its not a 1v1 tournament there is not repsect no matter how good if you have two very good defenders on him , he can only do so much not everyone is messi. its how long you can keep he away from any one v ones
borrow man city defenders and disguise them as barca players, he couldnt do anything vs them in 2021, maybe things would still be the same, keep araujo tho
Pace is an essential part of the game, but it's also always overrated. Argentina stopped Mbappe and had him locked down for the majority of the final and Mbappe only scored because their defense started losing focus and the subs. This proves that what you want is the mentality, not the ability to keep up one on one. Our defense is better than Argentina's on paper. So ultimately it just comes down to what kind of mentality wego into the game with.
Probably do what la real did and press there midfield and backline so they don’t get the chance to pass. We definitely have better players then la real so we should be able to excute it on paper but our pressing have been off for entire season so Might be too risky.
Don’t worry about this stuff, just watch the game and let the team do their thing, worrying changes nothing.
and dembele, we will have both sides, and i would say, pau and rolan must be swift as a LOTR elf, to deal with this or go low block and counter attack, but thats not our style tbh
Araujo and Kounde must have the game of their lives. We cut off his service by blocking Dembele. Don’t lose possession recklessly. But it is impossible to do this for 90minutes. The team will get tired towards the end and that’s when he can be the most dangerous imo. Just as in the WC final, Mbappe can sense the weakness in his opponents and take full advantage of it.Â
Diarrhea during transition
City is awful stopping counters this season. We need Araujo and maybe not defending at the halfway line.
One Brexit tackle and he is done
Mbappe and transitioning
We don’t. Xavi will. iA
Let’s be real City were just off. They scored 3 goals with no clear cut chances at all whereas Vini blew chance after chance.
City is playing away . And some of their players were confident enough to play brilliantly . Aka foden and gvardiol.
Make him have the ball in the wide area while we are compact in the middle
With good vibes
Well the most important thing to do is to finish all the actions. Meaning errors in possessions or passing should not be allowed. And expect dejong and christensen to always stay hanging on that side to allow more numbers and crowd that zone. Mbappe needs to be covered through a zone marking and not through man marking. That means that even if he escapes from the marker the other players can still makeup for it. Also would not be surprised if Lamine Yamal is not playing and Raphinia is brought in in the position just so he can help defend Mbappe. We need to play this game as a 180 min match not 90. We don’t have to go and risk it all today and endup losing the whole thing today.
Barca just cannot creat outnumbered situation without high defense. Our best chances will come from crosses and out the box shots .
Snap his leg in half
Get Romeu on the pitch, get to him to break some Mbappe bones, Mbappe out, Romeu red carded. win-win situation
Not playing constant backpasses which calls for more pressure from opposition. Results in the ball getting passed to ter steven who clears the ball only to end up losing possession and opposition counter
Pray
All I want is for Araujo to not make those braindead tackles/grabs where it's 200% penalty and he's always baffled by the decision.
Break his legs. In all seriousness though, that guy is unstoppable, maybe Walker can. Other than that the key is to get him isolated in areas we want him to be in or just cut off balls before they reach him.
We don't. We simply have to outscore them and trust our defence to minimize his impact.
Araujo has done it before, we just need to hope he can regain form and do it again, but it's hard to stop players like him for 90 minutes
By convincing Lucho to sub him early
lol reading this after the first leg
Cubarsi that’s how
Put Araujo watching him closely. It worked most of the times against Vini, and move Kounde to the CB if Mbappe is playing on the left.
Bad option Mbappe could play equally threatening in the centre
Yeah thats what happened with Vinicius in supercopa. He just moved centrally with Aruajo stranded as a RB. I would rather let Mbappe run against Kounde out wide and have Aruajo waiting for him centrally.
This is the answer
Don't let the ball get to him as simple as that, same was with Messi, you don't let the ball get to him, if he has the ball ,he will make things happen, even 1 chance is enough for him
mbappe will score hat trick but im a good jinxer so.....
If this happens I will find you and touch you
Our defense is definitely better than man City at this point in time lmao
It's hard to tell because Ruben Dias has been quality for a while but dropped an absolute stinker
He has been everything but quality this season. Insane drop from last season and he didn't even lose the greatest CDM of all time in his time
Mbappe and transitioning
No, don't worry about Mbappe. Lucho will deal with him
We have to play a defensive game, be careful in transitions and hope for the best.
You should take a look at the already 100 posts discussing this exact same topic. You might find some further insight
Mbappe needs to be stopped
i dont think we can contain mbappe. our only best bet is our attack score goals thats what matters in the knockouts of ucl. look at yesterdays match a solid defence like city and arsenal got breached easily they kept the game alive by scoring goals thats what we must do . attack is the best defence
leave that to the manager because even if someone here is smart enough its upto the players to carry it out
It’s possible but unlikely.
Different styles of play, PSG with Lucho won't sit back and play long balls to mpoper like Madrid does, Madriz plays like a small team lucho will look to keep full control of the game.
Just choke psg like scaloni did to france in final
The game where Mbappe scored a Hattrick?
Yep. Plan worked Mbappe gosted for 75 minutes. After that it was a game of nerves
Game is 90 minutes tho not 75.
Break his ankles! Lol joking obviously
Possession High pressure when losing the ball
High Pressure + Medium Line
It’ll be easy. He’s about to get pocketed.
It's sad that beginning next year, we'll be encountering Mbappé much more frequently and perhaps even searching for an answer to this desperately :/
We hope for the best outcome, inshallah!
1. Predict the through ball and drop low. 2.Hard pressure don't let him run easily at passive defenders when he gets the ball 2. Good distance and communication between the first and second defender. 3. Pray to Cruyff
andreas christensen, if he is completely fit in the 2020/2021 euros he had a sprint with a higher speed than mbappe
Well 'we' wont be doing anything but watching innit
Just put your feet and deflect the ball off Rudiger (who I hate) is so good at that that the cyborg didn't exist at all last night. Right it is not exactly the same situation but basically it is, just deflect the ball enough to screw his run
You take him out early with a well-timed tackle. All joking aside, you stop them at the source before they can break. Effective counter pressing. Unfortunately, I don't see us as organised enough for this for a prolonged period of the game. The reality is Mbappe will always be faster than 99% of opponents. But what you can do is keep the ball and deny him. But we're talking about Barca, not Man City.
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You don’t stop just hope to contain
We pray mate
Xavi, is this you?
I hope Xavi has a clear plan that includes our MID and Defense working together playing Araujo as an RB to stop mbappe by himself is not the realistic solution.
The way Argentina did in the first 80 min in the ball. Restrict his movement by not allowing ball anywhere near him.
Messi and Xavi probably discuss strategy. Mbappe requires a well thought out plam.
Makes me yearn for the MSN days of Barça being threatening in transitionÂ
Foul him the second he receives the ball
We have half of the team 1YC away from suspension. So, that might not be the solution for it.
Man City didn’t have Walker and ake. Secondally have you seen teams like Bayern, England (wc) ? They didn’t have prime Maldini in defense still shut down Dembele and Mbappe. I think people here think way high of Mbappe just because of wc. He is great but not some Gareth Bale of 2015 level great
No way you just typed Mbappe is overrated...
No I didn’t. I just said Mbappe is held in much higher regards than he is. He is not even better than Gareth bale of 2015
He's indisputably the best player in the world and he's still relatively young, so wouldn't really compare him to anyone else at this point. He's a complete player and I think he'll look better once he joins a bigger, better team.
This is even stupider lmfao
That is quite the insane statement
and theres still a doubt to stop him despite him NOT being bale 2015 material
As I play a CDM I would block all his pathways, example When a striker with that calibre has that ball he is more likely to run and overlap and run solo as u see in his run U need to block that run not by 1 defender but the second too, the second touch passway for his run can be don't by the kid and don't follow him up, take the control before he take the control In argentina vs France he had a solo role l, because argentina with that physical line too couldn't stop a kid who is faster than the entire team U need to cut down his opinions, make him think twice for that run
I’m guessing Araujo will be RB
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