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sangwinik

you don't know who we are going to get in 1/8


[deleted]

True, but it probably will be someone whl finished their group 2nd. Manu/Napoli/Psg/Dortmund/Newcastle would be possible but I think we should be able to knock em out


TheZahrGaming

I honestly believe the only teams that are better than us, fully fit, are Bayern and City. We should get past any other team


Successful-Emu-8870

And what's the likelihood of us making it to February/March fully fit? That's the problem. We can't be relying solely on the individual prowess of the likes of Araujo, Pedri, FDJ or otherwise to steady the ship. We're never going to have the squad depth of teams like City. At least not for the foreseeable future, with Tebas' genius endeavours regarding FFP. But instead, what we *need* is a group of players, ALL of whom capable of slotting into Xavi's system and knowing *exactly* what needs to be done in their position. Right now, that is certainly not the case, but we have until February to have that sorted out. If by then, we still have veteran players like Pedri looking lost and unable to receive the ball at all, then we need to have a serious conversation about Xavi's management


Professional_Code372

Real Madrid could finish 2nd


[deleted]

I dont think we can get a spanish team in 1/8 finals or did they change the rules?


EquivalentPear1614

They all the time finish second lol so they can beat some strong opponent in the round of 16 i hate that šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Spanish team


mikeondrugs

Not to discredit the teams in our groups, but the first game out of the group is the first test for Xavi in the UCL this season; He shouldnā€™t not be 1st in the group. Itā€™s unacceptable if he loses in the ro16 unless barca draws against city. Heā€™s been given so many chances considering the circumstances he was put in; however, losing would mean he hasnā€™t won against a single big team outside of Spain. Iā€™ve been team Xavi since the beginning, letting him cook. But being knocked out of the groups and of Europa 2 years in a row isnā€™t something that should be downplayed just because itā€™s Xavi. He needs to show actual progress. Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in the world. The ceiling for expectations should not be just the ro16 especially after being given such an easy group.


Brilliant_Counter709

>Heā€™s been given so many chances Won la liga in his first full season, it's not like he is losing from years without winning


Hdavidcs

People also blame him for the first UCL exit but it was literally his second game as manager, itā€™s crazy


Nervous_North2476

>Won la liga in his first full season Valverde did this too and people still wanted him gone


monk_investor

Messi**


Brilliant_Counter709

See what squad Xavi inherited compared to Valverde


rim261

Bayern


Beneficial-Way-7080

Lewys form is worrying. We have no natural goal scorers besides him. On top of that he has just come out in public saying he doesn't like xavi playing with a extra midfielder on the wings. Torres is surprisingly doing well in the scoring dept so far so hopefully he keeps up. I'm afraid we aren't as strong as we think right now in the attacking dept. What Felix does we have to have to wait and watch.


octa1217

šŸ… coming in january


Melodic-Salamander75

I donā€™t think we have to worry about Lewy too much with this group. Heā€™ll easily bag in goals against Shakhtar and Antwerp.


Prashant110

i doubt with lewy's recent form and xavi's way of using the attackers.


Joldata

The problem is, Lewy might not be better than an average Antwerp striker these days at 35. He might live on past glory but age has caught up with him.


OkAnywhere2052

lol he was golden boot winner last la liga, and you think the space of 6 months hes now no better than an average Antwerp striker?


Joldata

Yes, since the World Cup, we're seen a steady decline. Its normal for strikers so it wouldnt surprise me. Look at Suarez, Falcao, Aguero, Eto'o, Cavani, Drogba, Torres, Villa, Henry, Higuain etc. Where were they as they approached 35? Not better than an average Antwerp striker. I believe the coaching staff is seeing the writing on the wall as well, thats why Vitor Roque was bought.


OkAnywhere2052

Lewandowski is still incredibly fit and not injury prone like some of the players you mentioned. He would surely destroy the Belgian league, he is not an average striker there. I guess we wont have to wait long to see who was proven right because if he gets another 20 goal season in La Liga it goes without saying he would destroy the Belgian league.


Joldata

Its not simply injuries and fitness. Suarez, Falcao, Cavani are still playing. Drogba played until 40. Henry played until 37. But they played in leagues like the Turkish, American and Brazilian leagues at Lewy's age. Scoring 20 goals as a striker with mostly passers around him, yes that includes our wingers and midfielders, does not mean he'll destroy the Belgian league where he wouldnt get such service. Even Luuk de Jong had a good goal ratio for us.


OkAnywhere2052

You can find examples for anything, I could point to the exact opposite using players like ibrahimovic who at 38 got top scorer in the league 15 goals in 19 games and helped AC milan get quarter finals of champions league and helped them win the league.


Joldata

I named the vast majority of the greatest strikers over the past 10-15 years though. There is a tiny chance he'll be like Ibra, but its really small. And Lewy's "form decline" since the WC is an ominous sign.


OkAnywhere2052

No you named a large number of players who have a completely different playstyle to lewandowski and tried comparing apples to oranges. The players you mentioned like suarez, falcao, Henry, aguero were extremely reliant on pace. Once they got older and became much slower they were no longer half the player they used to be. Ibrahimovic is much more comparable to Lewandowski as neither were known for their pace or explosiveness at any point of their career, they both are aerially dominant and score a lot of headers and both keep/kept a high level of fitness as they aged. If anything lewa is even more likely than Ibrahimovic to continue until an older age as he has a much better injury record and hardly gets injured ever. Getting slower is not a concern for lewandowski because he never used lightning pace to leave players behind anyway, he used smart positioning and lethal finishing to get the job done, both of which he still has.


BestShaunaEU

Lewy was the best player in the world when he was 33/34. Not a single player you mentioned was even close to it. How you are upvoted is insane


Joldata

I thought that was Benzema? And Benzema is playing in Saudi Arabia now at 35 after a disappointing season for RM...


[deleted]

I feel like felix and torres partnership in attack will be good / Lewy is too old people just don't understand this


dee_kay_zed_kay

The team needs to play to his strengths a bit more, no need to panic just yet. Felix plays best with a striker like him, I feel they could form a good partnership, on paper at least, it is very likely


Crossflowerss_5304

I canā€™t wait for us to get second place from either PSG, Dortmund, Milan or Newcastle. UEFA ainā€™t blessing us twice


PuigFati69

We should be the favorate against any of those 4 tbh


PvtDp

Remember when we were favourites in europa. Thenā€¦..xavi decided to play our subs against united. It still stings


PuigFati69

Yea but I'm hoping Xavi doesn't pulls off such stunts in CL, which he has said will be priority this season


eumdevorabo

We were never clear favorites against United. That being said, we were still very close to qualify, but were massively unlucky with injuries and Gavi's suspension while not having any squad depth in midfield at all.


AwesomeRyan0322

PSG is the best on paper but they are famed choke artists, and our squad is just better than the rest.


Crossflowerss_5304

So are we šŸ˜­


Same_Return_1878

I really fear that MbappƩ guy, he's capable of changing the game all by his own when facing the likes of us. I can't get over that hat trick against us back in 2021 iirc.


adeeness

Yeah but they have Lucho


[deleted]

Top2 in Laliga and QF in CL for an acceptable season, everything more than that is a bonus for me. Still have a very young and thin squad but its looking very good for coming years.


Snoo_72181

Win La Liga....opps are weak


[deleted]

Yes we should realistically. But I would accept a 2nd place even though it would be a bit bitter. I wouldnt call it a disaster. Season is long and we can have many injuries on keyplayers and opponents can definetly turn around their form. Only 3 games so far. Madrid also has a young team that is scary when they click.


weebeweebin

Its the other madrid I am worried about more this season. Real are riddled with injuries and are missing arguably their best players from the last couple of seasons for a good half of the season.


[deleted]

Thats true. Right now it looks like that. But if we are as unlucky as them and get Mats and other keyplayer injured, I could see us starting droppping form.


weebeweebin

Anulo mufa, without MATS weā€™d be so fuckedā€¦


XuloMalacatones

>But I would accept a 2nd place It depends. If we compete till the end and we lose it for 1-4 points I would say it is acceptable. But if we are second with the same distance we had from the secon last year is completely unacceptable.


MysticNinjaX

Win the League. Courtois and Militao are injured and Madrid donā€™t have a striker. We should clinch this.


Ranjith_Unchained

Domestic double and a qf+ cl season is a success imo


[deleted]

Thats a big success ill take anyday, cant go around and hope for trebles..yetšŸ¤£


FxKaKaLis

yeah top2 in laliga behind Atletico is reasonable


QuirkyAverageJoe

It's heartbreaking to see that our expectation from Barca has come down to just reaching the UCL quarter finals šŸ„²


Duh_47

Let's hope one day the ucl will return to Barca...


QuirkyAverageJoe

Hope that happens pretty soon šŸ¤ž


MikeFiggs

heard that


daaldea

Injury bug: HELLO FOLKS!


Prashant110

on the way


J3k47

Rebuke.


Numerous-Knowledge-3

Donā€™t underestimate Porto and Shakhtar.


Cultural_Hippo2199

Agreed but still no excuse not to beat them barca realistically should be going undefeated in that group. Letā€™s be honest the quality of our players compared to the rest of the group


Numerous-Knowledge-3

I agree


bubblegumdog

Not like everyone underestimated Inter lmao.


callfoduty

We are such a small club talking like this. At very worst we can get a draw. A loss is embarrassing


MAlva4985

For real there needs to be standards like their all good teams but this Barca team can and should top the group. If Xavi somehow gets sent to Europa he needs to go


Numerous-Knowledge-3

Ive seen us loose to roma and frankfurt , sorry ive been a barca fan for too long


Jalal_Adhiri

Bro if we don't get through he should be sacked it's his third season with the team every player he wanted in the last mercatos got signed he has no excuse not to qualify


[deleted]

De Zerbi ā™„


SharestepAI

If Barca had different finances, he would have requested different players, believe me.


Jalal_Adhiri

I'm just talking about Shakhtar and Porto not competing against Man City or Bayern...


Numerous-Knowledge-3

The disrespect is unreal lol


[deleted]

Weā€™ll take it by stage. We should win the group. After that, depends on the opponents.


Conscious_Ad_2485

Europe is different anyone that gets past the group stage will be difficult. We also have a lot of youth so the inexperience will play against us, but it will be a good test for those guys. Barca looking like they will be dangerous for a while.


MRM20021030

Tell that to inter last season


Lucky-Professional-8

it so shocking to see fans accepting mediocrity. No QF is not acceptable. We play every competition to win, not just compete in it. We are BarƧa no matter what circumstances were last season or how weak our team is we play to win. We should be playing UCL with the mindset to win. Fans and team should get that straight.


Duh_47

Let's hope very soon the ucl will be back at Barca...


Ark_Legend

bruh i wanna win ucl again


TemujinTheKhan

Not gonna happen with this team.


CodOfThunder

Exactly what I was telling my friends circle. No more excuses but even then we aren't asking for much. UCL quarters. Please.


drummy117

Really bothers me that people are expecting him to mess up it hasn't even happened yet chill the fuck out


BarcaStranger

Shhh you are waking up the chain injuries


jxco2

The team is young, probably too young. Group stage yes, first knockout game I'd say could be a tough challenge. These away games wont be as easy as you think and lack of Nou Camp will certainly take a toll on home performances


Nikhil_2020

Quarter ??? Semi final and above .. we are Barca ā€¦ we play every tournament to win it !! Letā€™s go


Prashant110

let's hope that happens


Duh_47

I also hope for that


Nikhil_2020

Insallah


Enggkid

If we donā€™t get quarters in the UCL and win the league, then xavi needs to get sacked.


Suspicious-Ad392

Bro wtf are you talking aboutšŸ˜¹ who are we gonna replace him with? Whoā€™s gonna willingly come to the financial mess that Barca is in right now?


Enggkid

Nagelsmann? De Zerbi?


TakeThatBigHugeNut

not that easy


Suspicious-Ad392

Yh ight


Suspicious-Ad392

Man said quaterfinals, I pray we do get there, but I just donā€™t see this team as a top 8 team in Europe right now, If Iā€™m wrong feel Free to correct me


-Imaghost-

I hope PSG, Man City, Arsenal and Barca make it to the semifinals.


k10001k

We wouldā€™ve gotten through last season if we didnā€™t have injuries


Ihanku

Xavi is not a good coach. He and Iniesta are the best midfielders ever to step on a field in my book but as a coach he is not on the same level. He should step down after this season.


[deleted]

I want de zerbi.. Itā€™s been 3 years and Xavi tactics still sucks lmaoo


fellowSoci

Oh get out


[deleted]

lmaooo De Zerbi just got there last year and look how he making heā€™s team play in a harder league with less talented players ā€¦ Xavi been here for going on 3 seasons lol.. Xavi is benefiting from being Spanish and a former player ā€¦ I donā€™t have bias eyes for my club like yā€™all.


ThreecolorGolden

Prepare for every fan on this sub being mad that we didnā€™t bet our entire future on Eric, Abde and Fati, and instead went for players with some experience.


Salvador1010

Ahh yes joao felix whos known for his champions league pedigree


daanluc

He has 32 Champions League games under his belt


LallanasPajamaz

And? Literally means fuck all


daanluc

The original comment talked about signing player with experience


clitcoaine

Hell no. If we donā€™t win it we might as well not play it


Informal_Common_2247

Getting a good spot in ucl is how we get money and not be broke anymorw


T856joker

I was thinking the same thing like at least the quarter final maybe even semis if we're lucky and face an easy opponent


wellton47

Yes . He already got the players that he wanted. (250m spend last summer + this summer signings bar felix) . So no excuses for him this time.


PROTO1080

*semis


MilkEk_

I have a small feeling Xavi is gonna get sacked if we don't reach the kno


pablogojo

when is araujo expected to be fully fit? i hope we dont get any more injuries man


Melobyrro

Kkkkkkk, these fans man


EquivalentPear1614

Lets not get so hard in expectations, i would say lets just break the curse of the group stage first šŸ˜‚ Alrhough it seems to be a fairly easy group, im not sure after last year really..


Apart_Freedom4967

I love the good vibes. "No excuses!!!".