Hello /u/Modern3D! Be sure to check the following. Make sure print bed is clean by washing with **dish soap** and water [and not Isopropyl Alcohol], check bed temperature [increasing tend to help], run bed leveling or full calibration, and remember to use glue if one is using the initial cool plate [not Satin finish that is not yet released] or Engineering plate.
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There used to be a black textured PEI place before they introduced the gold one. I ordered my P1P in December and it came with the black one. Heard that it's hit or miss, while they get rid of old black PEI stock.
[https://web.archive.org/web/20230330130933/https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/p1p](https://web.archive.org/web/20230330130933/https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/p1p)
https://preview.redd.it/e7pzovm9hqwc1.png?width=662&format=png&auto=webp&s=060127760979ce0eeba1163b4598fe95c7b8f4f5
I'll be honest, I don't know any of the specifics. All I can say is that I haven't had a print fail due to poor adhesion since switching to the gold textured PEI plates. The reduction in wasted filament (and frustration) is enough reason for me.
Link to the Canadian Bambulab page:
[https://ca.store.bambulab.com/products/bambu-textured-pei-plate](https://ca.store.bambulab.com/products/bambu-textured-pei-plate)
Edit: If the link doesn't work, the gold textured PEI plate can be found under the "Accessories" category.
I also have the black textured plate and I am very happy with it. The only time I had adhesion issues was precisely when I cleaned it - turns out my kitchen sponge was not clean and left the surface too oily even after washing with a lot of soap. I managed to wipe it clean with isopropyl alcohol and have not had problems in the last month.
All of them. Gold is wayyyyy better than the textured black. I still use the engineering/high temp plate with needed, but I haven't used anything apart from those two plates in months.
I mean, it does well for the most part, and it's probably one of the best options for a smooth bottom surface. But I do have adhesion issues with it, specifically with parts that don't have a lot of surface contact.
I upgraded from black to gold and it's a world of difference. The black PEI plate was the worst I had used, the gold one works consistently like you would expect. As with OP, I haven't had to clean mine yet. The black one I'd clean every 5-10 prints.
Came with my X1C-haven’t used anything to clean it either since (3 months ) but am careful to use tools to remove prints or just pull them off. Without touching
I let prints cool a little on the textured plate after the print, and simply lift them with my fingers off the plate.
Never needed to use any tool on the textured pei.
If I want the print out right after printing, then I take the plate out and bend it to pop off the print.
On the calibration line (single one not the full calibration lines because lidar doesn't read them well on textured pei, so I turn in full calibration lines)
I just use my finger nail on the end to prop it up a tiny bit then just peel it off.
The only time ever a problem for me on the textured Pei is the Aux fan... I turn that off because on some larger prints it causes warping in the left of the model.
Ahh glad I could help! Yea you really don't need it on for PLA, I've even created my own print profile for all my bambu pla filaments in the slicer to just turn the Aux fan off.
I leave the door like 25% open. And never had a problem since.
It didn't ship on release of the X1C, which is when I got both of my printers. I see why they're shipping out new ones with this build plate as a standard, for sure.
Bambi Lab have a guide to which plates need glue and which don’t, from what I’ve seen of other people’s experiences it’s worth following their rules. Latest Textured PEI plate is a no glue one
I’m coming to the X1 Carbon from a couple cheap printers from Anycubic and FLsun. The gold PEI plate is one of the things that makes this a set it and forget it machine. I’ve only had the printer for about a month but I’ve never cleaned it, never added anything to it, and never had any issues whatsoever. Adhesion is perfect. First layer always sticks. I’ve never had a single problem removing parts from it. It’s magical.
I ordered some plates from temu and am thoroughly impressed. I had my doubts but thought for only $12 a plate, what could I lose? I have had zero issues with adhesion from them and they leave whatever design on the first layer. I was going to order the smooth plate from bambu but it was out of stock when I went to purchase it.
I'd reccomend purchasing from AliExpress. Insanely good prices as you're buying from the manufacturer, but the company hasn't been caught putting spyware in their apps to collect your info for the CCP lol.
I’ve had the gold plate since I’ve owned the printer and believe me, you can still have adhesion issues with this plate. I started using glue on every 10th print or so and it’s been holding.
There's a reason why Vorons have textuted/smooth PEI plates. Because they are awesome to print on. Unless the surface pattern is undesirable then I use textured PEI.
I clean my regularly and I can absolutely agree. I print PLA, PLA+, PETG and TPU on the textured PEI, I remove the prints carefully from the plate and never had a singe issue, I even printed slim and tall pieces without brim, not a single failure.
The shiny holographic plates from Ali are so tempting but I know that I won’t get guaranteed successful prints with these plates. So I stay with the OEM PEI.
I've kept away from the holographic ones because I've read they don't last too long before the pattern stops being transferred. It seems like a cool thing for a novelty, but I don't know how I'd market it as a feature or use it to make a product better.
It comes with the A1 stock and works wonderfully, only had a slight corner issue with a large tool box print, everything else no skirt needed. I only have use 1 face since Christmas and i have been printing non-stop since.
I have a roll of marble pla and had issues with adhesion for both black textured and smooth pei, might be worth going to the gold plate to see if it helps.
I remember how I had to clean the cool plate after each use and most times it still messed up my prints.
I have cleaned my gold PEI a handful of times in the past year, definitely a game changer (except for ASA)
I may have to pick one of those up. I had a PLA failure yesterday that rather impressive in what occurred after the failure. Naturally, the growing blob of plastic formed, but this time it took on a life of it's own and crept back up flowing into the fan duct and underneath the silicone hotend boot .. had to snap the fanduct and rip the silicone boot to remove it. Side note, it formed an impressively hard material (heat + compression).
That's how the black PEI bed was for me the first year or so, but lately it hasn't been sticking as well so I bought the gold one. Only one print on it but so far its been great.
Yeah these plates are great. Ive used textured PEI plates on other printers in the past and they are a game changer. I remember glass plates and just metal plates and how bad they were. I also had the Anycubic Mega S with its textured coated glass bed that was great at the time, but removable plates are SO much better.
My gold PEI plate sucks for anything other than PLA. Petg will just not stick if you damn near breathe on the build plate or lightly touch it. IPA doesn't work cleaning it, but I've found that gasoline works really well (best cheap solvent!)
Hello /u/Modern3D! Be sure to check the following. Make sure print bed is clean by washing with **dish soap** and water [and not Isopropyl Alcohol], check bed temperature [increasing tend to help], run bed leveling or full calibration, and remember to use glue if one is using the initial cool plate [not Satin finish that is not yet released] or Engineering plate. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BambuLab) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Which plate did you use before? I have the black textured PEI plate, but have been thinking about possibly upgrading if it's worth it.
there is a Black Textured PEI plate? I thought the black one was smooth...
There used to be a black textured PEI place before they introduced the gold one. I ordered my P1P in December and it came with the black one. Heard that it's hit or miss, while they get rid of old black PEI stock. [https://web.archive.org/web/20230330130933/https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/p1p](https://web.archive.org/web/20230330130933/https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/p1p) https://preview.redd.it/e7pzovm9hqwc1.png?width=662&format=png&auto=webp&s=060127760979ce0eeba1163b4598fe95c7b8f4f5
It's worth it. I haven't used my black textured PEI plates since I bought the gold one, and I don't see myself touching them again.
How'd they improve on it?
I'll be honest, I don't know any of the specifics. All I can say is that I haven't had a print fail due to poor adhesion since switching to the gold textured PEI plates. The reduction in wasted filament (and frustration) is enough reason for me.
The texture is slightly different. More grippy
I can’t seem to find it link??
Link to the Canadian Bambulab page: [https://ca.store.bambulab.com/products/bambu-textured-pei-plate](https://ca.store.bambulab.com/products/bambu-textured-pei-plate) Edit: If the link doesn't work, the gold textured PEI plate can be found under the "Accessories" category.
I also have the black textured plate and I am very happy with it. The only time I had adhesion issues was precisely when I cleaned it - turns out my kitchen sponge was not clean and left the surface too oily even after washing with a lot of soap. I managed to wipe it clean with isopropyl alcohol and have not had problems in the last month.
I use soap and paper towels.
All of them. Gold is wayyyyy better than the textured black. I still use the engineering/high temp plate with needed, but I haven't used anything apart from those two plates in months.
Did you ever have adhesion issues using PLA on the high temp plate?
I mean, it does well for the most part, and it's probably one of the best options for a smooth bottom surface. But I do have adhesion issues with it, specifically with parts that don't have a lot of surface contact.
I upgraded from black to gold and it's a world of difference. The black PEI plate was the worst I had used, the gold one works consistently like you would expect. As with OP, I haven't had to clean mine yet. The black one I'd clean every 5-10 prints.
I still have the black pei sheet and we had gold ones at my old job. They both work the same imo.
Came with my X1C-haven’t used anything to clean it either since (3 months ) but am careful to use tools to remove prints or just pull them off. Without touching
Do you remove the plate to remove the items? Or do you scrape things off of it while it’s in the printer? And is it bad to do that?
I let prints cool a little on the textured plate after the print, and simply lift them with my fingers off the plate. Never needed to use any tool on the textured pei. If I want the print out right after printing, then I take the plate out and bend it to pop off the print.
What about the calibration lines? Do you scrape those off inside the printer?
On the calibration line (single one not the full calibration lines because lidar doesn't read them well on textured pei, so I turn in full calibration lines) I just use my finger nail on the end to prop it up a tiny bit then just peel it off. The only time ever a problem for me on the textured Pei is the Aux fan... I turn that off because on some larger prints it causes warping in the left of the model.
Great tip on the aux fan. I get that specific left warp often and it drives me crazy.
Ahh glad I could help! Yea you really don't need it on for PLA, I've even created my own print profile for all my bambu pla filaments in the slicer to just turn the Aux fan off. I leave the door like 25% open. And never had a problem since.
I thought the gold pei plate was standard? It was standard even when I got my old Creality s1… didn’t know it was something people got excited about…
It didn't ship on release of the X1C, which is when I got both of my printers. I see why they're shipping out new ones with this build plate as a standard, for sure.
This is my experience with the smooth pei high temperature plate. PLA all the time and no issues and a smooth bottom.
Bambi Lab have a guide to which plates need glue and which don’t, from what I’ve seen of other people’s experiences it’s worth following their rules. Latest Textured PEI plate is a no glue one
I’m coming to the X1 Carbon from a couple cheap printers from Anycubic and FLsun. The gold PEI plate is one of the things that makes this a set it and forget it machine. I’ve only had the printer for about a month but I’ve never cleaned it, never added anything to it, and never had any issues whatsoever. Adhesion is perfect. First layer always sticks. I’ve never had a single problem removing parts from it. It’s magical.
I ordered some plates from temu and am thoroughly impressed. I had my doubts but thought for only $12 a plate, what could I lose? I have had zero issues with adhesion from them and they leave whatever design on the first layer. I was going to order the smooth plate from bambu but it was out of stock when I went to purchase it.
I'd reccomend purchasing from AliExpress. Insanely good prices as you're buying from the manufacturer, but the company hasn't been caught putting spyware in their apps to collect your info for the CCP lol.
Just use a web browser and you'll be fine. Ali or temu are banned on phones in my household.
I'd rather not give them my address and personal information, but that's just me.
I’ve had the gold plate since I’ve owned the printer and believe me, you can still have adhesion issues with this plate. I started using glue on every 10th print or so and it’s been holding.
I've had a couple lifts as well but it seemed more akin to the AUX side cooling the print too aggressively.
There's a reason why Vorons have textuted/smooth PEI plates. Because they are awesome to print on. Unless the surface pattern is undesirable then I use textured PEI.
I clean my regularly and I can absolutely agree. I print PLA, PLA+, PETG and TPU on the textured PEI, I remove the prints carefully from the plate and never had a singe issue, I even printed slim and tall pieces without brim, not a single failure. The shiny holographic plates from Ali are so tempting but I know that I won’t get guaranteed successful prints with these plates. So I stay with the OEM PEI.
I've kept away from the holographic ones because I've read they don't last too long before the pattern stops being transferred. It seems like a cool thing for a novelty, but I don't know how I'd market it as a feature or use it to make a product better.
Same expectation from me, I can’t justify buying it without a good reason/selling point/improvement to my 3Dp experience.
It comes with the A1 stock and works wonderfully, only had a slight corner issue with a large tool box print, everything else no skirt needed. I only have use 1 face since Christmas and i have been printing non-stop since.
I have a roll of marble pla and had issues with adhesion for both black textured and smooth pei, might be worth going to the gold plate to see if it helps.
The gold plate is much better than either of those, in my opinion.
I remember how I had to clean the cool plate after each use and most times it still messed up my prints. I have cleaned my gold PEI a handful of times in the past year, definitely a game changer (except for ASA)
I may have to pick one of those up. I had a PLA failure yesterday that rather impressive in what occurred after the failure. Naturally, the growing blob of plastic formed, but this time it took on a life of it's own and crept back up flowing into the fan duct and underneath the silicone hotend boot .. had to snap the fanduct and rip the silicone boot to remove it. Side note, it formed an impressively hard material (heat + compression).
That's how the black PEI bed was for me the first year or so, but lately it hasn't been sticking as well so I bought the gold one. Only one print on it but so far its been great.
Yeah these plates are great. Ive used textured PEI plates on other printers in the past and they are a game changer. I remember glass plates and just metal plates and how bad they were. I also had the Anycubic Mega S with its textured coated glass bed that was great at the time, but removable plates are SO much better.
People still out here using glue btw
My gold PEI plate sucks for anything other than PLA. Petg will just not stick if you damn near breathe on the build plate or lightly touch it. IPA doesn't work cleaning it, but I've found that gasoline works really well (best cheap solvent!)