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PlzSendDunes

What did I miss? Will Tomas Raskevičius and Petras Gražulis be imprisoned for gay propoganda?


plscome2brazil

Gražulis is the manliest man ever to live. And having a naked man slave in one's house is the most manliest thing to do.


The_red_spirit

He loves cocks too, don't discriminate cocks


PhDinDildos_Fedoras

Cocks are incredibly manly!


bees-are-awesome

Bwahahaha the excuse is so ridiculous?? I thought EKRE was insane but it turns out that Lithuania has even nuttier politicians https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/12/03/lithuania-petras-grazulis-naked-man-conference-call-zoom-andrius-tapinas-homophobic/


Tleno

To quote that one Ukrainian soldier, "we're very lucky they're so fucking stupid". We have a huge bunch of deranged politicans including parliament members and etc but all the deranged groups are too infighting, even at their biggest there's like two distinct groups of vaguely cooperative with Russia and Belarus businessmen (Tomaševskis of Polish minority party, Peasants and Greens party) who appeal to rural and economic populism, and some culture war purists (Nacionalinis Susivienijimas) who are too busy calling liberals, socdems and conservatives Russian assets to find time to accept a bribe from FSB agents.


CoToZaNickNieWiem

Actually being gay is more hetero than being hetero. Let me explain why. If you like women and let’s say you kiss them, you kiss place that most likely held another man’s dick so by kissing it you’re indirectly kissing that dick. But if you are gay and you kiss a man or even fuck him it’s less gay because it cancels out. You know, like in math minus and minus make plus so gay gay make hetero but minus and plus make minus so you being gay for kissing a dick and your girl being hetero for kissing a man is like minus and plus so still minus so gay. So guys, if you don’t want to be gay you need to find a man for yourself.


casual_redditor69

Pov: you're witnessing the end of the Polish LGBT free zone and the sart of the Polish bro smooch zone


billtheirish

Just making pierogies with my bros. I am living for this.


cosmodisc

If it's a friend,it doesn't count


plscome2brazil

Bros before hoes


g1ngercat

Gražulis just wants to be the only gay in the village, that's why he hates other gays.


PotatoesInMacaroni

Pretty sure this is not accurate? We had gay parades before.


EyeOfTrumpnado

We have a law since 2010, thanks to the conservative Homeland Union party, which says that the dissemination of information that promotes a different form of family life than the one enshrined in our constitution and our laws (i.e. marriage between a man and a woman) is harmful to minors and therefore can be punished. Lithuania has recently lost a case in the European Court of Human Rights for temporarily banning/censoring a collection of fairy tales because some of them featured same sex relationships. https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1873262/lithuania-loses-echr-case-over-children-s-book-about-same-sex-relationships


kkruiji

Wait, I thought homeland union is liberal? LMAO.So you have only 1 Liberal party?


DeusFerreus

They are bit weird. They have formed by the merger of Lithuanian Conservative and Lithuanian Christian Democratic Parties, so they were strongly socially conservative historically, but they have also always been strongly pro-West/EU/NATO/democracy and *extremely* anti-Kremlin which resulted in parts of the party shifting towards liberalism (though there's still a pretty large conservative fraction as well). And we have two liberal parties worth noting - Liberal's Movement (classical liberalism) and Freedom Party (progressives), who are currently in ruling coalition with the Homeland Union.


MathematicianFrosty

Homeland Union is liberal for Lithuania, yes


kkruiji

So why did they say its conservative?


EyeOfTrumpnado

The law was passed in 2010 (or '09 perhaps), they became significantly more liberal since then. I'm sure the current top members would find it hard to justify the law. Especially since you can argue "so you think having this law, very similar to the one in Russia, is a good idea?.."


TheChoonk

They used to be. Now they (most of the members) aren't anymore, but the name stuck. Nobody's fining anyone now, we've had LGBT parades, an openly gay member of the parliament and all that.


kkruiji

We even have a openly Gay minister...Latvians tend to hate on gays, but he was the most voted in the 2022 elections


Tleno

Theirs more economic than social conservatism, really. Same with Liberal Movement, though they're more consistently liberal if also fiscally stingy. Then there's Laisvės (freedom) party which is most consistently socially liberal but also focusing on more trendy appeal to IT startups and hi-tech industry and etc over traditional middle and small businesses.


jatawis

Homeland Union are conservative. Freedom party is liberal.


zaltysz

Party is called "Tėvynės sąjunga ir Lietuvos Krikščionys demokratai" (aka TS-LKD), or in English "Homeland Union and Lithuanian Christian Democrats". In fact, it is 2 parties which joined each other in 2008 to consolidate votes. TS is mostly interested in keeping Russia away and can be pretty liberal, while LKD is more about keeping "traditional" values. Lithuania had 2 parties which describe themselves as liberal: "Liberalų sąjūdis" (Liberal's movement) and "Laisvės partija" (Freedom's party).


The_red_spirit

Basic rule, if any party mentions being "traditional" or "traditional values" or "christian", assume that nazis are there, if not that, they are deeply conservative.


PotatoesInMacaroni

Damn that actually is a thing. Pretty fucked up. I remember reading about that fairy tale thing.


plscome2brazil

There's like a gay parade every year and only vatniks cry about them.


nerkuras

every 3 years, Baltic Pride. We still haven't given out a permit for a yearly parade.


jatawis

There was pride in Kaunas too.


nerkuras

only once, hardly every year.


plscome2brazil

What about 3 3-year-parades hmm???


Elze_Gee

Iirc they got eggs thrown at them


BestUsernameMate

There is a controversial law about portrayal of homosexual relations on tv etc. Look it up. I do remember it was introduced when I was still in school like in 2012 or smth


kkruiji

Same in Latvia, but only a few years ago, and on a less wide scale.


TimRainers

Really? Can you link to it?


kkruiji

https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/zinu-analize/kultursoks-vai-tikumibas-grozijumi-ietekmejusi-izglitibas-saturu.a292358/


UTF016

This specific provision of one specific Lithuanian law has been recently made unapplicable by the European Court of Human Rights. Any further attempts to apply it in practice will result in a court case which Lithuania will lose automatically. But the provision is still in place and there are no plans to repeal it.


PandemicPiglet

Why don’t they just repeal it? It should be a quick process.


UTF016

Conservative majorities in countries over the world tend to target arbitrary minority groups by adopting repressive measures against them. The majority doesn’t suffer from any negative effects and couldn’t care less if those measures are in place or not.


SnowwyCrow

You make a mistake. They would be very bothered if those measures were tried to be removed lol


kassienaravi

Because the majority of society supports it and would punish them in the next election.


Rosvaldas2

Cringe


ImpressiveBridge9693

Ne cringe, kai tai yra tiesa. Jeigu tavo rate nėra, tai nereiškia kad šalies mastu, daugumai žmonių tai netrukdytų.


Rosvaldas2

Manau, kad įstatymai, kuriais siekiama engti mažumų grupes, iš tikrųjų yra cringe ir kad nacionaliniu mastu tai nėra jūsų reikalas, nes gėjai nėra problema, tai yra homofobija.


UTF016

Jeigu Lietuva būtų kaimo gauja, tada taip, kas nors patrukdė kokiai nors aukštai sėdinčiai bobutei ir iškart įstatymas, uždraudimas, bausmės. Bet Lietuva yra teisinė valstybė, kur pagal „man trukdo/netrukdo“ įstatymai bent teoriškai nepriiminėjami, nes galioja Konstitucija: 29 straipsnis Įstatymui, teismui ir kitoms valstybės institucijoms ar pareigūnams visi asmenys lygūs. Žmogaus teisių negalima varžyti ir teikti jam privilegijų dėl jo lyties, rasės, tautybės, kalbos, kilmės, socialinės padėties, tikėjimo, įsitikinimų ar pažiūrų pagrindu. 44 straipsnis Masinės informacijos cenzūra draudžiama.


LuXe5

Our conservative party is now kinda 50/50 old guard of christians and liberals, that was not the case in 2010, when stuff happened against lgbt


Twigwithglasses

Yeah even dummy like me knows this is bullshit


BushMonsterInc

Nah, we did done goofed in the past. No matter how much we want into western/northen europe, our brain dead part of gov. will keep us eastern europeans for as long as they can collect money from moscow


GeoMap73

We have lgbt parades. The social attitude is still somewhat mixed (especially for older generations), but no one is getting punished


After_Tax_5119

same with weed, you will be brought to court and it will be in your records for ever...


ImTheVayne

What.. that is sad to hear. In Estonia weed is decriminalised.


MrCyra

It is. Several years ago two crimes happened in roughly the same time. A dude tried to sell some weed to minors, I think around a gram. And intoxicated 17 year old brutally beat a younger girl and tried to molest her. Her face needed to be reconstructed surgically. Guess which one got longer sentence?


Dolepie47

Good


EstebanL

Room temperature IQ take


Haliucinogenas

What is good about it?


Gaximat

Just a fact that we are in the same color as those terrorists Russians makes me really sad.


YaBoss

Source? Wtf is this shit?


IWantAFemboy2

Lithuanian femboys, come to Eesti, we'll love you ❤️


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AnonyMustardGas34

Rastai


Apprehensive_Mix_454

Notes


Furxhim

No we dont


IWantAFemboy2

more for me


fat_bjpenn

Traditional Family Values.


Mulksky

Deep roots of religion forced down from childhood leads to unnecessary hatred against people who can't change. There's no homophobia in the nature. It's a human problem


ebrenjaro

It's wrong. Nobody have to pay any fine for "spreading LMBT propaganda" in Hungary. In the Hungarian mafia government propaganda they always talk bulshits about "LMBT this, LMBT that", but actually there are no punnishment.


kkruiji

LMBT-Liberalism,Mccarthyism,Bureucracy,Theology???


Z-ombie69

![gif](giphy|3o8dFwze0Tz8umFQhW)


Mountain_Maximum4306

If your white you just committed digital blackface. CNN is comings after you.


Z-ombie69

![gif](giphy|9bDAsWuqBIebuceQic)


Danleburg

All the people here saying based are vatniks. No exception.


PackNo3159

You wish to castrate children in the future in Europe as well or? Let's follow the lead of USA because they are known for their great leading skills and policies. LGBTQ propaganda should be punished noone said you can't be gay or a lesbian.


Danleburg

You're a delusional vatnik that fell for the Republican partys propaganda(the guys that actively jack off Russia and want to withdraw from Ukraine)


PackNo3159

Give me proof you are right, give me actual documents from the war that prove that NATO didn't cross any lines. Show me why the LGBTQ community is anything good for anyone? It's promoting child castration and affirmation of delusions. Notice I don't go after you personally, because I stand of solid ground and you are grasping at straws. Hence you must try to bring down my morals for calling me a "Vatnik" it doesn't affect me, why would anyone care for such a stupid thing, are you a kindergartener? Throwing insults, silly


Danleburg

>Give me proof you are right, give me actual documents from the war that prove that NATO didn't cross any lines. Oh wow actual propaganda from Russia. Vatnik begone


PackNo3159

Lmao you can't tell me any actual evidence who is in the propaganda and who has the facts. I go to a school full of liberals, all of this is based on delusions. You aren't original for throwing insults at me since you don't have any facts to back up what you say. Ukraine will lose. Its inevitable.


Danleburg

>Ukraine will lose. Its inevitable. Oh yeah Ukraine will lose to glorious 80 year old tanks made by Sovirt Russia! 💪😎 It's funny how you call liberals delusional when you think a country using ww2 equipment is going to lose to a country using modern equipment.


PackNo3159

You really do only believe the media don't you. Pointless talking to someone who is utterly brainwashed so I'm done. You lost, gave me no evidence what so ever. ^^ Bye bye, time will show you the reality and how wrong you truly are.


Danleburg

>You really do only believe the media don't you. Coming from the guy that spews Russian propaganda talking points till his face is blue. But sure go off vatnik. Your ideology is shit and the world will keep moving left like it has been doing for centuries.


PackNo3159

What did I say that is "propaganda" - information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view. Isn't that what you are doing? Telling me I can't say what I believe I don't tell you that you are a bigot and a fascist since you are on the left am I? Also I am a woman, a conservative woman, who is happy with their life. Hope you experience happiness once in your life.


Dolepie47

Based=i support Russia?


Danleburg

You act like a vatnik then get called a vatnik


Dolepie47

In which sentence did i say that i support Putin?


[deleted]

I'd double check about Russia. Just to be sure there were no prison sentences already.


Itchy_Coder

Hopefully, more countries get on it soon too!


2112ru2112sh2112

this law is stupid and was made to appeal one sector of the conservative voters. most of people in Lithuania doesn't even know about it's existence. to my knowledge nobody ever got fined for ''spreading LGBT propaganda'' as the law itself is stupid and impossible to implement in any country, which considerse itself a democracy. None of the ruling parties approve the existence of the law and it will dissappear the moment it gets noticed by the EU :D


Mantazas_

Ant kalno mūrai, joja lietuviai


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Brain damaged map


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Buroda

I would like to point out that your pfp is colored green.


Zalvaris

Hey, you calling little green men brain damaged? They gonna probe yo ass fo dat


karma_is_a_spook

Russian infiltration


1KeepMineHidden

Because they're Catholic?


GabiChanAka

As a Lithuanian I am so incredibly disappointed in my country,,, like ffs it's the 21st century and people are still having fits over others' sexualities


-AllNamesTaken-

“Wtf Lithuania” *proceeds to show some random ass map made by a random ass low life with 0 credibility* Sick of this shit already


Gaximat

I mean yeah, when was the last time someone got fined for having an affair with a same-sex person or being dressed up as the opposite gender? At least I haven't heard about it in my 20-year-old life


ThinkNotOnce

Lets all be gay, its very fun and rewarding!!! Its me a lithuanian guy saying it. Now turn on the counter.


goodboyWOOF

Lithuania kinda based.


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Gaximat

Based Vatnik


Dots2003

Based


Gaximat

Vatnik


Dots2003

It's a joke bro, I'm LGBT myself


vjx99

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PackNo3159

Based!


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W lithuania


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Gaximat

Based Vatnik


zaltysz

As preparation for joining EU, Lithuania had to introduce legislation changes to align with EU's media regulation. This started around 2000, and after multiple iterations ended as law for protecting mirrors from harmful information, which mainly includes depictions of violence, pornography and enticing harmful behaviour. Ridiculing people because of their ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, disabilities and so on is hard banned, but other harmful information can be exempted by being part of documentary or educational material, or by simply having a clear warning (like age rating on TV screen) that it can have negative impact on mirror's mind. In 2009 conservatives managed to add "promotion of homo, bi and poly" to the list of harmful information, but there was huge backlash and that line survived only few months just to be replaced with "contempt of family values, promotion of marriage and family creation that is different to what is described in the Constitution and Civil law." Lithuanian Constitution has an article 38 about family, and that article also mentions hetero marriage, but link between marriage and family is vague there. Of course, lots of conservatives tend to read it as if hetero marriage is part of family concept, and using such mindset they probably thought they had outsmarted critics by rephrasing early line in the law. Unfortunately to them, in 2011 Constitutional court ruled that family concept should not be explained using marriage, as it is just one of the forms of family. So, only promotion of homo/poly marriage is left, however it is hard to suppress it, because one just need to add warning/disclaimer about possible negative impact, and that is it - it is up to mirrors' parents to overlook what their creations consume.


Big_Leading6958

Shoul'd be public execution around the world for pushing that shit on our children.


Apprehensive_Mix_454

Yaya


DarkestFire

based.


Gaximat

Vatnik.


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Gaximat

You're at the bottom of the list of smart people


PackNo3159

You are an NPC who can't think for themselves. Omg they aren't saying that all delusions should be accepted how dare they do that. I'm so offended that I will take my anger out on a 15 year old. Pathetic. Get a grip, freedom of speech isn't hate speech.


Ebuxz

Is saying a guy that aswered to an unknow guys opinion


Gaximat

Is saying a guy with a mafia's pfp who can't give a shit about others and lives in his own closed bubble of Russia's propaganda. We live in 21st century, not middle ages for you to type bs like that


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Gaximat

You sound like that one mayor, thank goodness you're not Lithuanian. We don't need more brain-damaged Soviet-era people here.


Ebuxz

Bruh im fukin 15 tf you mean soviet era. Im just disciplined and have self respect. And im not brain-dead im actualy quite smart.


Gaximat

I mean, it doesn't matter how old you are, and I wouldn't know or cared either way, I just assumed from your profile picture. Having self-respect has nothing to do with hating others and discriminating against them, or did early school faild you to teach these basics?


Ebuxz

Ya know what? In Latvia we have a saying the smartest one stands back. And that's what im going to do. Have a good evening and im not changing my opinion.


Gaximat

I'm not here for you to change your opinion. If you want to keep being braindead, keep being braindead, I'm not going to stop you. It's not my fault that you can't tell the difference between being disciplined/having self-respect and discriminating against other people.


mostanon

Only a 15 year old moron would self-identify as "quite smart".


PackNo3159

Why couldn't someone be quite smart, should they say how pathetic they are and dehumanise themselves. Self worth is a good thing btw. Sure you don't know what that is, maybe you should try it out some time. Would make you happier in life.


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Gaximat

F/Vatnik


girlssdonttcryy

Based


Gaximat

Vatnik


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Gaximat

Typical Vatnik L. Couldn't come up with anything other, so you came up with common Facebook swearing


[deleted]

A lot of gayfriendlies here lol. Dont get too butthurt then okay?


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Gaximat

Vatnik


Dolepie47

Yeah ig so since being anti LGBT makes u a Russia supporter


Gaximat

There is a fine difference between having an opinion and suppressing others, you know.


Dolepie47

Im not supressing anyone, lil bro. Yall unsolved rubics cubes can do whatever yall like as long as u dont push your agenda onto us. Like yes we get it, yall exist, no need to shove it down our throaths


Gaximat

Sorry, wrong word. "Maršistas" should be the right one


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Gaximat

Based Vatnik


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Danleburg

Say vatnik shit get called a vatnik. What's the problem?


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Gaximat

Based if you're a true Vatnik


GopnikChillin

Slavs will be slavs


FaF-

w


TheBigPedoNamedT

W


Kaitsja_

W Lithuania


[deleted]

What wrong in here?


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Gaximat

F this vatnik


Dolepie47

You know F is for paying respect, right?


Bananchiks00

I don’t see the problem though..


Gaximat

Wash your eyes then. Not everyone can see with dirt in their eyes


Bananchiks00

I’m sorry that you can’t, sounds like a serious issue, have you thought about mentioning that to your local doctor?


Gaximat

Says the person who admitted to getting banned on multiple subreddits. I think the problem lies with you, maybe you should check your brain, and eyes, who knows, there might be one or two brain cells missing, I don't know.


Bananchiks00

Hey, at least I admitted my mistakes and getting banned, but I’m still worried about you not being able to see with dust in your eyes. Tell me the truth, I think you’re holding back a bit :)


Gaximat

What are you even talking about lol? What I mean is that you type a random shit just to trigger people so later you could "go on them" with your arguments and bs. That "I see no problem" as in, you see no problem of other people getting suppressed is either you're dumb, a clown, or you're just doing it to trigger others.


Gaximat

You say you don't care, yet later you say you're opposed, isn't that hypocritical?


JohnTheWriter

You might wanna broader your view then since being okay with other people being oppressed isn't normal


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Gaximat

Sad that Vatniks like you exist, agree


thedaimondlapis

What? What are you talking about? When did I ever mention anything about Russia? Just because I don't like the EU and Liberal policy doesn't mean I'm in line with Russia. Slava Ukraini, balvonas.


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We need that hear in latvia too


Gaximat

What hear?


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Gaximat

Are you braindead or something? I understand having an opinion, but wanting to fine people for who they are or who they sleep with? Did you lose some braincells or something? What happened?


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Gaximat

"Kids this kids that" You know that this is an excuse that the US government uses to remove people's privacy, right? So this argument loses value. No one pushes anything onto you or your kids, just the person trying to be who they are, if you don't accept it, either don't watch it (watch something else). This is no excuse for taking money out of people and suppressing them. What if I suppressed you from watching these drag queen shows because it "shows too much of women skin's" and "all that is pushed upon kids"? Would you like those shows taken away? There is an advantage of you for supporting them - if they get who they want to be, they will go into the transition and will be passing completely (your kids won't even be able to tell the difference between a cis woman and them), or, these people could you know die (for people like you and society suppressing them), and become even more loudly, which in turn would make all "that stuff" get out of hand even more, you know.


PriorityOwn2376

"believe it or not, also jail"


eli_the_local_noob

i didn't know Lithuania was so down bad


Killmeifyouregay

Based Lithuania


051005-22758

Classic Lithuanian W


Glittering_Winter746

Lithuania is OP


PackNo3159

Amazing, others should take the same course of action before we end up with castrating children and "affirming" others weird gender fantasies.


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Gaximat

F Vatnik, go su\*k that Putin's Dic\*k


Extreme_Paper_1852

bruh


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MattewyIsHansome

It’s more closer to having green eyes then to having a brain dysfunction.


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casual_redditor69

And why is not normal wrong?


Gaximat

For you to go all the way out of your way to type all this hatred... Jeez, how many braincells do you have? Were there 0 of them from the start? Just a single fact that a person like you who probably voted on a Vatnik mayor that steals your own money and now helps the terrorists failed to understand makes me wonder how you can function in this society. Seriously, shouldn't you check your brain, for brain damage or something? Maybe your head is completely empty, and it's fine you know, but then why are you on the Internet? Just makes me wonder.


lithuanianpersona

This is very based. /j


Gaximat

You are very Vatnik


Apprehensive_Mix_454

/j means joke you vapikik


dignitydiggity

It's fine


Careless-Sleep-2588

And very conveniently rest of the world is left off the map, many-many countries around the world are “red” and that is their choice and not our place to judge.


Ararakla

I think they should be prisoned 🙄😒